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By *asycouple1971 OP   Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Lets hope they win today.

Enjoyed watching them play. There was none of this ego and play acting you get in the mens game.

Im going for a 3-1 win.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly no going down like they have been shot by a sniper. Playing the game how it should be. I'm going for 4-2 extra time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The girls showing the men how it's done

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Why does it always have to become a gender thing?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ovespudsMan
over a year ago

Swindon


"Why does it always have to become a gender thing?! "

It's not a gender thing, the simple fact of the matter is that male footballers are cheating bar stewards that have no respect for the game, each other or the officials. They are unsportsmanlike and set a bad example to kids. Simple as that

Oh, and they're overpaid Prima Donna's

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

I fancy England, I think the Germans will run out of gas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does it always have to become a gender thing?! "

It hasn't!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looking forward to watching it in the local pub .

Think it’ll be a great atmosphere in there and fingers crossed a win in 90 minutes

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I am all ready… this should be a good game!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am all ready… this should be a good game!!!"

I'm really excited and looking forward to it although I cannot cope with penalties so that must not happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Germany + final = has penalties written all over it haha

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

This should be the final stop on the Beth mead revenge tour… this is her time to shine!!

Also… dear fran Kirby… you have all the talent in the world… this is your stage!!

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Why does it always have to become a gender thing?! "

Indeed. Our men are alright. Our women are doing OK too. Hope they win.

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By *XXDREAMMan
over a year ago

sudbury

I just don't go to fucking penalties can't be dealing with that

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By *XXDREAMMan
over a year ago

sudbury


"I just hope it don't go to fucking penalties can't be dealing with that"

I meant before I get Nazi'd

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Why does it always have to become a gender thing?! "

It wasn't until you made it one

Best of luck England Ladies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good luck girls

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did this once in a zoo.

The consequences were disastrous.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"I did this once in a zoo.

The consequences were disastrous."

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

At least the Germans won't be able to Popp in a goal

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

I guess this is a good time to start the poll of the most important question in football.

Who in the two teams has the best boobs?

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By *olarbear73Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Good luck Lionesses. Do your country proud!

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"I guess this is a good time to start the poll of the most important question in football.

Who in the two teams has the best boobs? "

Don't be that guy

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La


"I guess this is a good time to start the poll of the most important question in football.

Who in the two teams has the best boobs? "

No

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

A good game so far. England seem to have started the stronger but Germany are dangerous

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"I guess this is a good time to start the poll of the most important question in football.

Who in the two teams has the best boobs?

Don't be that guy "

I have a reputation for sarcasm and innuendo to uphold...and its only football anyway

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"I guess this is a good time to start the poll of the most important question in football.

Who in the two teams has the best boobs?

Don't be that guy

I have a reputation for sarcasm and innuendo to uphold...and its only football anyway "

I didn't think your comment was sarcastic

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La


"I guess this is a good time to start the poll of the most important question in football.

Who in the two teams has the best boobs?

Don't be that guy

I have a reputation for sarcasm and innuendo to uphold...and its only football anyway

I didn't think your comment was sarcastic "

There was no innuendo either...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hottest england player? Millie bright for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I guess this is a good time to start the poll of the most important question in football.

Who in the two teams has the best boobs? "

Or not.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

This game needs the ref to be one of the best performers on the pitch.

Sadly, so far. It hasn't been the case.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"This game needs the ref to be one of the best performers on the pitch.

Sadly, so far. It hasn't been the case.

"

Yeah this ref isn’t having a great one…..

Been a good 1st half… give it 20 minutes and then bring on the closers.. Russo, Chloe Kelly, Ella toone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it goes to penalties I ain’t watching

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east


"This game needs the ref to be one of the best performers on the pitch.

Sadly, so far. It hasn't been the case.

"

She has had a bit of a mare ...very inconsistant in her decisions

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By *amietxxMan
over a year ago

south ayrshire

England created a fantastic chance near the end off the half there , a bit more belief and they will create more like that .

Need to control the ball better too , on maybe 3 occasions an England players 2nd touch has been a tackle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Early goal 2nd half to settle the game x

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"This game needs the ref to be one of the best performers on the pitch.

Sadly, so far. It hasn't been the case.

Yeah this ref isn’t having a great one…..

Been a good 1st half… give it 20 minutes and then bring on the closers.. Russo, Chloe Kelly, Ella toone "

Everytime I watch England it's a good game.

Regardless of the result, this tournament will do for Ladies Football what London 2012 did for hockey.

GB won that and I just hope England can win this and then capitalise and grow the sport even more

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"This game needs the ref to be one of the best performers on the pitch.

Sadly, so far. It hasn't been the case.

She has had a bit of a mare ...very inconsistant in her decisions "

It's all you want is consistency. Both teams could be down to 10 but I'm glad they arnt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes!!!!! What a goal

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Composure. Well done

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

Great finish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a goal!

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

World class finish

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Just like watching Henry.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

What. A. Goal!

Such composure in that situation

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original


"Just like watching Henry. "

The vacuum cleaner ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going to get interesting now !!

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By *aughty_Smooth_OperatorMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Need to keep calm and cool now not crack under pressure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's coming home....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lads…. You ain’t ever going to hear the last of it if the ladies win

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lads…. You ain’t ever going to hear the last of it if the ladies win "

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace


"Lads…. You ain’t ever going to hear the last of it if the ladies win "

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Lads…. You ain’t ever going to hear the last of it if the ladies win "

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Lads…. You ain’t ever going to hear the last of it if the ladies win "

We've had to listen to them banging on about 1966 all this time

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Lads…. You ain’t ever going to hear the last of it if the ladies win "

That's how the rest of the UK feel every other summer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lads…. You ain’t ever going to hear the last of it if the ladies win

We've had to listen to them banging on about 1966 all this time "

Precisely !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lads…. You ain’t ever going to hear the last of it if the ladies win

We've had to listen to them banging on about 1966 all this time "

Amazing! Absolutely loving watching these ladies

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Lads…. You ain’t ever going to hear the last of it if the ladies win "

I can cope with that

Come on England!!!!!

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

It's been coming.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"It's coming home.... "

That song is cursed I reckon

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's coming home....

That song is cursed I reckon "

Oh bugger I think I was a bit premature!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's face it, it will go to penalties, and we will lose...I hope we don't but history says otherwise

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By *aughty_Smooth_OperatorMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Stuffed it now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stuffed it now "

Think positive !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stuffed it now "

Thats not the spirit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does it always have to become a gender thing?! "

Exactly.

Though it's the same sport, it's a different environment with different pressures. Though yes it's refreshing to see the sport played the way I feel it should.

Can we not just enjoy the football instead of comparing.

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

Trouble is if they win, there can't be anything else on the news for 6 days.

Gbat

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By *utecontradictionMan
over a year ago

Malvern

Was this always going to penalties?

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Trouble is if they win, there can't be anything else on the news for 6 days.

Gbat "

For once, I don't see that as such a bad thing. Make a nice change

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I reckon there's still at least 1 big chance to come for either, maybe both teams

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got my fingers crossed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lovely well done girls!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Omg wow!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes!!!!!!!

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I'm all for that kind of celebration.

Come on, do it again

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Fuck yessss!!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Brilliant

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By *aughty_Smooth_OperatorMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

It's coming home come on England

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let the clock tick down, waste that time!

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

Oh my gosh!! Everybody cross everything

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Come ladies hold on.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

And that Mens team is how it’s done.

What a team.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Resuuuuuuult and that lads is how it's done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yey! Get in there woohoo

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

There's people on the thread ... they think it's all over ... it is now!!

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace

Get in lionessess!!!!

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By *aughty_Smooth_OperatorMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Let's just hope the mens team can take some inspiration from today and get it done in the world cup aswell

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Huge Congratulations England

Well done and fully deserved.

(I'm welsh btw)

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

It’s home!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well done ladies amazing

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Wow..

not ashamed to say I feel a bit emotional..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fannytastic from norn iron.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

I’m not crying, you’re crying

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

Angela Merkel..Eva Braun.....Marlene Dietrich..... your girls took a hell of a beating

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Awesome very proud

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They've made herstory.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not bad that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Football has come home!

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman
over a year ago

The place where fairies live

Wooooo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Amazing x

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By *ixieAndHerKingCouple
over a year ago

Debauchery


"Angela Merkel..Eva Braun.....Marlene Dietrich..... your girls took a hell of a beating "

Hahaha!

Hades

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By *ixieAndHerKingCouple
over a year ago

Debauchery

Congratulations Lionesses

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By *edplusoneCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands

Well done ladies!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s official.. woman are now better than men at everything!

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Llanelli

Well happy for them, about time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Superb im so proud of them xxxxxx

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"There's people on the thread ... they think it's all over ... it is now!!"

Oh yes, absolutely awesome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If that interview never made you cry there is something up with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Amazing achievement

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By *aro7Man
over a year ago

wickford

ENGLAND LADIES

CHAMPIONS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeeeeessss!!!!!

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan
over a year ago

Torquay


"Football has come home! "

Yes and it's much more attractive, maybe it was always female

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

Fantastic achievement ladies.

Incredible and emotional.

Winston and Lady Astor

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

Can Serina manage the men now please

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Ha ha look at them brilliant having a ball.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

This team!

I hope that the legacy will be felt for a long time but before that, it’s coming home!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great effort and heart shown in the end pirlo i mean walsh was great

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By *unandgamegeekMan
over a year ago

Bolton

In 1966 on the 30th of July, England beated Germany 4 - 2 at the world Cup.

In 2022 on the 31st of July, England beats Germany 2 - 1 at the Euro Cup.

Amazing

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By *aughty_Smooth_OperatorMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

The home support played a big part in todays win

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

Wowser!! That was brill, the football and celebrations

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

People might bicker about the ‘quality’ but that team, the ability and quality is amazing, not to mention the mental strength, is huge.

If you’re concerned or not onboard because of gender, then that’s all about you

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

They deserved to win with that fabulous backheel goal in previous match,one of best I've ever seen ...

apparently radio 5 said this morning all the girls local football teams are trying it now..

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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Absolutely no interest

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"In 1966 on the 30th of July, England beated Germany 4 - 2 at the world Cup.

In 2022 on the 31st of July, England beats Germany 2 - 1 at the Euro Cup.

Amazing "

The last time that England won a major football trophy, women weren’t allowed to play football by the authorities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am in bits! Kelly is pure dynamite. I'm in love

Amazing win, amazing team!

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

I wonder who gets to wash the smalls...?

Well done girls.

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By *ulkuriMan
over a year ago

London

Well done! Congrats to the team and to England!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Absolutely no interest "

That's ok..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolutely no interest "

Interested enough to comment though.

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By *heGigglersCouple
over a year ago

Stourbridge

Fantastic game to watch. Honestly never thought id see an England team win a tournament! Hope this is the start of something big for womens football here.

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By *unandgamegeekMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"In 1966 on the 30th of July, England beated Germany 4 - 2 at the world Cup.

In 2022 on the 31st of July, England beats Germany 2 - 1 at the Euro Cup.

Amazing

The last time that England won a major football trophy, women weren’t allowed to play football by the authorities "

Indeed. I do find it kind of eerie that the dates when we won are so close together, today's score is half the 1966 score and that the days both dates were on are exactly the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The after scenes are amazing

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By *merican WomanWoman
over a year ago

live by the Pool xx

Next subject

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"The after scenes are amazing "

They really are aren't they ..

Very proud Englishman right now ..

You can see how much this means to them ..

Bloody awesome im proud of ya ladies

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Next subject "

It’s the next thread below this.

Honestly, I don’t understand why people feel the need to comment negatively on threads that they’re not interested in.

Is your Netflix broken? No books?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The after scenes are amazing "

I am loving their pure joy! so deserved

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"The after scenes are amazing "

Classic Vic'n'Bob dancing there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Next subject "

Off you pop then love.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Next subject "

Do you realise the seconds it took for you to type that is seconds you'll never get back. Congratumalations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The after scenes are amazing

They really are aren't they ..

Very proud Englishman right now ..

You can see how much this means to them ..

Bloody awesome im proud of ya ladies "

I know !x

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Yay

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By *merican WomanWoman
over a year ago

live by the Pool xx


"Next subject

Do you realise the seconds it took for you to type that is seconds you'll never get back. Congratumalations "

.....huh?? Haha

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Llanelli


"Next subject

Do you realise the seconds it took for you to type that is seconds you'll never get back. Congratumalations "

She could be complaining about someone not showing her veri again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Next subject

Do you realise the seconds it took for you to type that is seconds you'll never get back. Congratumalations

.....huh?? Haha"

And again, time is precious....morale of the story, don't waste your time on what you perceived as the small stuff

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan
over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat

Awesome achievement, such a great feeling to see England win a major tournament.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do we get a shower scene please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Next subject

Do you realise the seconds it took for you to type that is seconds you'll never get back. Congratumalations

She could be complaining about someone not showing her veri again

"

Oh crikey on a bike! I am sure there will be something just as riveting to wow us soon

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Man …. If this is what a country winning at football feels like…. We have to do this more often!!!!

Now I know why they kept talking about 66!!!!

P.s….. why are we not getting tomorrow off as a bank holiday???

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Man …. If this is what a country winning at football feels like…. We have to do this more often!!!!

Now I know why they kept talking about 66!!!!

P.s….. why are we not getting tomorrow off as a bank holiday??? "

I agree!

How about later this year in Qatar?

I’m down for that

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Man …. If this is what a country winning at football feels like…. We have to do this more often!!!!

Now I know why they kept talking about 66!!!!

P.s….. why are we not getting tomorrow off as a bank holiday???

I agree!

How about later this year in Qatar?

I’m down for that"

Nah… final is just a week before Xmas… we get a few then…

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

I don't really have word as it was such a great game - it didn't need to be a stroll or clean. Both showed their talent, just we (well they), brought it home. Brilliant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Congratulations England.

Fantastic team togetherness and skill.

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By *merican WomanWoman
over a year ago

live by the Pool xx

Is this thread over with ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this thread over with ..."

Nah, we’ll have a part 2 later.

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan
over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat


"Is this thread over with ..."

first tournament win in decades, no chance. Best move on.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Is this thread over with ..."

Oh go away please with your negativity .

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Is this thread over with ..."

You are Richard Keys and I claim my £5

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By *illingdon_ladMan
over a year ago

Bicester

Always great when the winner comes from someone who not just come from your home town but your old post code.

Hanwell W7. And to top it off she's a Ranger (QPR) too!!!

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By *merican WomanWoman
over a year ago

live by the Pool xx


"Is this thread over with ...

Oh go away please with your negativity ."

Nope but thank you for being positive about negativity lol

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Is this thread over with ...

Oh go away please with your negativity .

Nope but thank you for being positive about negativity lol"

OK. You're obviously bored ill leave you to it

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By *merican WomanWoman
over a year ago

live by the Pool xx


"Is this thread over with ...

Oh go away please with your negativity .

Nope but thank you for being positive about negativity lol

OK. You're obviously bored ill leave you to it "

Likewise

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I had to go straight out so missed all the cessation on the pitch, bet it was amazing.

GB - Hockey

Eng - Rugby WC

Eng - Cricket WC (men and women)

Eng - Football (today)

All these sporting events have left a legacy and today is no different. Ladies football was already on the up, the rest of us home nations will benefit from this today aswell.

A fantastic day for female sport

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this thread over with ...

Oh go away please with your negativity ."

Why did she even comment ? Plenty of other threads to comment on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Always great when the winner comes from someone who not just come from your home town but your old post code.

Hanwell W7. And to top it off she's a Ranger (QPR) too!!!

"

Awe proud moment in your town then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this thread over with ...

Oh go away please with your negativity .

Why did she even comment ? Plenty of other threads to comment on "

I think some think it's edgy to be a fun sponge....well cupcake, there is no sponging of my fun for sure

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"Is this thread over with ...

Oh go away please with your negativity .

Why did she even comment ? Plenty of other threads to comment on "

attention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this thread over with ...

Oh go away please with your negativity .

Why did she even comment ? Plenty of other threads to comment on attention "

a fucked up sense of humour?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this thread over with ...

Oh go away please with your negativity .

Why did she even comment ? Plenty of other threads to comment on attention "

Some people eh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this thread over with ..."

Depends if the result is verified or not

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By *_Love_CandyWoman
over a year ago

Greater London

At my age of 47, we were not allowed to play football until I was in the last year of school.

I have played a couple of seasons of women's rugby, which was amazing. And I regularly play sports.

#this girl can

#equality in sport

OMFG the England team was amazing. And I hope that going forward, this pride in our women continues, and our girls growing up continies, and that they are recognised just as much as men in sports.

Come on England, you were amazing tonight, and the entire tournament!!!!

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"Is this thread over with ..."

From the daughter of a woman chosen to play in the 1971 World Cup - jog on!!

J

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Well done to the girls. Be proud of your achievement. Hope it inspires lots of girls to take up or stay in sport.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

E N G L A N D

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By *merican WomanWoman
over a year ago

live by the Pool xx

Can't help but say it's.... trick

trick trick trickaaay!!! Trick! Trick! Trickaayy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shall we start part2

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