FabSwingers.com forum: Why do 'Straight men' want to meet TV/TS

By *ynda1978 OP Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Liverpool

The world would be a boring place of we were all the same but why do straight men (as they claim) want to meet TV/TS??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are fab straight

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

It's because they're not really straight.

I don't consider myself a TV/TS, I just enjoy dressing up the way I do.

But I do get lots of messages from guys whose profile says they're straight. I asked one of them why that is. For him he was worried that having Bi on his profile might be off putting to women and was worried about being recognised by people he knew who might out him as Bi.

It's a personal gripe of mine, but it's their choice to be who they want to be and to label themselves as they see fit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What does fab straight mean?

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By *picMan
over a year ago

Petworth

If they are meeting one for sex, they arnt straight.

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By *ottom charlieMan
over a year ago

washington

"The world would be a boring place of we were all the same but why do straight men (as they claim) want to meet TV/TS?? "
because they are not STRAIGHT they are really bi guys who hide as straight to get to meet females and couples,,, most tv's will tell you they get about 15 -25 STRAIGHT guys a month asking for sex,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it matter and is it really hurting you?

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to.

Not what sexual acts you find appealing.

While they may inform each other they are not one and the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kids in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones is a saying……what pisses some people off won’t even register with others, the main thing is don’t lie, to yourself or others, if you are bi or straight live either life and be happy, it shouldn’t matter, it’s the person you are meeting not their idiosyncrasies, it’s supposed to fun you know

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By *entDomMan
over a year ago

Paddock Wood, Kent

Commonly known as "prison gay"

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By *risxbrisxMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Why should anyone care what someone decides to label themselves as?

This site/community is about freedom, having fun and building connections, people should focus on that.

There is a pretty big difference between TS 'women' and as TV 'man'.

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By *ed LipstickWoman
over a year ago

Fucksville

"What does fab straight mean?"

It normally means that they aren't ruler straight just bends to men/tv/ts as and when they want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they're attracted to feminity, whatever the chromosomes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From my experience

They have tryed with woman and see us as the next best thing

Not speaking for all tv/ts

But most aren’t in to the whole social aspect with guys or the cuddle after words

Most are just looking for sex

You know come bang zip and go

Witch plays in to what they think this site is all about ie they think it’s a sex site

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

"Commonly known as "prison gay""

Oooo hello sailor

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the term tv/ts implies a transvestite who changes sexuality.

This site, like many others and swinger clubs, do not have a clue about the transgender condition and treat GIS [gender incongruety syndrome] women as men who dress as women. A very offensive attitude.

As for men being attracted to GIS women, it depends on what they are being attracted to. I would go on but it would be a very very long post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the term tv/ts implies a transvestite who changes sexuality.

As for men being attracted to GIS women, it depends on what they are being attracted to. I would go on but it would be a very very long post"

Transgender I would most likely consider multiple pls

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

Because fucking someone in lingerie turns them on, regardless of their gender.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Maybe they're attracted to feminity, whatever the chromosomes. "

This.

I suspect if Daisy Taylor or Emy Lee walked into a bar and offered any straight guy a blow job they'd get zero refusals - because 99% of the men wouldn't even realise they were TS unless they undressed.

The 'TV/TS' categorisation on Fab is seriously outdated and pointless. It covers too many different possibilities and needs updating.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

They just like slightly more masculine females and the taboo value and the anal sex be it both ways.

Sexual kinks can vary, some guys like women with strap ons, does that make them gay?

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"For him he was worried that having Bi on his profile might be off putting to women...

As showcased by this thread!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Fab is a facet of the world, where prejudice still exists. Some men adopt a label based on their perception of how others will perceive their suitability as a partner.

Sexuality, gender and sexual orientation aren't just 3 or 4 labels that billions of people sit fully squarely inside of 1 or 2. If you know swingers, you must be aware of the otherwise situational people, who have no sexual attraction to some of the people they have sex with, such as the married guy who will have some oral sex with the same gender, when with his wife.

As for transgender interaction - it's heterosexuality predominantly, liking the opposite gender. Humans are complex, we've normally understood that, by the time we're in school. We will never be simple, as few animals aren't either. Enjoy and accept your freedoms to be yourself.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"The world would be a boring place of we were all the same but why do straight men (as they claim) want to meet TV/TS?? "

We (straight men) don’t

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because they're at the very least bi curious

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Because any hole is a goal

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By *eannaTV/TS
over a year ago

Cwmfelifach, nr Newport

It has always been throughout history, when someone straight ask me I ask if they have read my profile if the answer is yes no problems, you are what you are after all this is a free world just keep an open mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Survey was carried out ,65% of men secretly fancy trans, so in a crowd of boozy fun loving guys some of em will stare and interact, nothing sinister, some guys who were initially abusive to me became friends once they calmed down and were on their own.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

"Survey was carried out ,65% of men secretly fancy trans, so in a crowd of boozy fun loving guys some of em will stare and interact, nothing sinister, some guys who were initially abusive to me became friends once they calmed down and were on their own."

Good for you hunnie, stay sexy xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as they don’t reach around a tv is a woman (in very loose terms or if the lights are off!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe they're attracted to feminity, whatever the chromosomes. "

That’s where my bi-curious starts and ends.

If a tv/ts is attractive in a very pretty feminine way…. I can’t help but be attracted, regardless if she has a cock bigger than mine….

Am I straight? I’ll let you all worry about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?"

Implying tv/ts don’t get much choice in the matter. I don’t struggle to get “attention” online or irl but I won’t lower myself to fabstraight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Implying tv/ts don’t get much choice in the matter. I don’t struggle to get “attention” online or irl but I won’t lower myself to fabstraight. "

and I'm not saying you don't, but the questions was aimed at why do straight men meet TV/TS

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By *rettyflamingoWoman
over a year ago

Where the flamboyance of flamingos live

"Kids in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones is a saying……what pisses some people off won’t even register with others, the main thing is don’t lie, to yourself or others, if you are bi or straight live either life and be happy, it shouldn’t matter, it’s the person you are meeting not their idiosyncrasies, it’s supposed to fun you know "

Absolutely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because they are sexy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?"

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trans-women are women, why wouldn't a 'straight' man be attracted to an attractive one?

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Bi men are far outnumbered by 'straight' men.

Couples looking for bi men, that won't meet guys that are not honest, are outnumbered by couple's looking for straight guys.

In my mind the sly-bi guys are fishing from a much larger pond than they need to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Implying tv/ts don’t get much choice in the matter. I don’t struggle to get “attention” online or irl but I won’t lower myself to fabstraight.

and I'm not saying you don't, but the questions was aimed at why do straight men meet TV/TS"

I know what the question was what I’m talking about is your provocative idea that straight men are going for tv/ts as a second rare substitute for women. I’d actually like to know the answer. Cause if it’s true it’s degrading and I for one have a hella lot of blocking to do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous. "

it was a question, not a statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of trans or tv/ts people on here state in their profiles they are looking for straight guys too lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What does fab straight mean?"

Undercover bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous. "

I’m assuming the question was intended to spark debate not to make a statement.

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By *risxbrisxMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Maybe they're attracted to feminity, whatever the chromosomes. "

This 100%

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By *asepaul71Man
over a year ago

Buxton

"Maybe they're attracted to feminity, whatever the chromosomes.

This 100%"

Totally agree x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"From my experience

They have tryed with woman and see us as the next best thing

Not speaking for all tv/ts

But most aren’t in to the whole social aspect with guys or the cuddle after words

Most are just looking for sex

You know come bang zip and go

Witch plays in to what they think this site is all about ie they think it’s a sex site "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sexuality, gender, age, height, looking for boxes should all be removed from profiles.

People can identify however they wish and look for whoever they want to fuck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous.

it was a question, not a statement"

I answered with my statement

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By *ovetodress123Man
over a year ago

barnsley

That’s so true , it’s who you find attractive and not if you straight/bi . Be who you want to be

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By *eannaTV/TS
over a year ago

Cwmfelifach, nr Newport

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By *eannaTV/TS
over a year ago

Cwmfelifach, nr Newport

"[Removed by poster at 24/07/22 07:56:55]"

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite confusing all these views. I like men tried woman and never got off I suppose it’s why fab straight men meet Tv/TS they like the feminine side of it and can have there arses payed with which some or many woman won’t do. Let it be if they get off and no one gets harmed after all its a sex site.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous. "

I think that you massively overestimate some people

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"Trans-women are women, why wouldn't a 'straight' man be attracted to an attractive one?"

Yes. The waters become a bit less clear when discussing TV’s and cross dressers though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous.

I think that you massively overestimate some people "

Maybe I’m just answering from my own point of view. …

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love convincing ts.tvs..i really dont fancy guys atall i love women from head to toes lol..so am i gay or bi?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are fab straight

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love it

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By *obbiKentMan
over a year ago

maidstone

for me, if someone presents sexually as cd/tv/ts on fab,, then guys need to respect their wishes and needs. Much the same for a straight guy, though I think sometimes they place too much credence in how others see them.

Sexuality is all about being happy in you, and enjoying the pleasure it brings.

Respect, find you, and have fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does it matter and is it really hurting you?"
exactly mate..who cares as long as we are all ennoying ourselves..we will all be dead one day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous.

I think that you massively overestimate some people

Maybe I’m just answering from my own point of view. … "
ofcours you are we are all entitled to an opinion eh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm into tv/ts but not guys I call myself bi but who knows the real rules to it. Just enjoy yourself really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The world would be a boring place of we were all the same but why do straight men (as they claim) want to meet TV/TS?? "

Well first of all, there’s a distinction between transvestite and transsexual.

One is living as a man and dressing up in certain occasions in feminine clothes, a trans woman lives her life as a woman (legally, changes her biology with hormones to be in range with the female range, gets surgeries to change first and sex characteristic - tho not all get surgeries)

So as you can see, there’s quite a difference! You can remove the dress and make up from a trans woman, she’d still be considered a woman.

Assuming that a man attracted to a woman of trans experience is not straight, would be saying.. “well she’s not really a she , she’s man.. so he must be gay”

This narrative pushed by society, actually can harm trans women because men, who happen to have fragile egos, face having society question their straight status. Those who can’t handle it, might end up harming their trans partner. (By the way, there’s nothing wrong with being gay or bisexual at all but I can see how a Hetero man might have a problem being told.. wait you are actually gay if you love a trans woman because ChRomOsOmalLy sHe Is sTILl a MaN.. tho she looks anything but a man)

There are plenty of trans beautiful women out there, who look and sound just like any women and you wouldn’t be able to tell they are trans, unless they told u they are

Look at Samantha lux, Maya V Henry, Indya Moore, Hunter Schafer for example! Some of them have had the vagina surgery

Hope this helps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn’t mean to say all men have fragile egos, but point out the men only, who have fragile egos.. and aren’t used being other-ised … please don’t just at me with “NOT ALL MEN!”

I know!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I didn’t mean to say all men have fragile egos, but point out the men only, who have fragile egos.. and aren’t used being other-ised … please don’t just at me with “NOT ALL MEN!”

I know!! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I didn’t mean to say all men have fragile egos, but point out the men only, who have fragile egos.. and aren’t used being other-ised … please don’t just at me with “NOT ALL MEN!”

I know!! "

I liked reading your post op.

I have a very very masculine friend who I was able to describe why I might find a woman (ts) attractive and given the opportunity would snog her. He said I was bi.

After a long discussion and showing a certain girl to him. He’s now bi curious aswell now.

I don’t describe myself as curious. I’m just me.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"The world would be a boring place of we were all the same but why do straight men (as they claim) want to meet TV/TS??

Well first of all, there’s a distinction between transvestite and transsexual.

So as you can see, there’s quite a difference! You can remove the dress and make up from a trans woman, she’d still be considered a woman.

Assuming that a man attracted to a woman of trans experience is not straight, would be saying.. “well she’s not really a she , she’s man.. so he must be gay”

There are plenty of trans beautiful women out there, who look and sound just like any women and you wouldn’t be able to tell they are trans, unless they told u they are

Look at Samantha lux, Maya V Henry, Indya Moore, Hunter Schafer for example! Some of them have had the vagina surgery

Hope this helps

I absolutely understand what you’re saying and viewing from a trans woman’s stance, that makes complete sense. A straight man meeting a straight woman.

I think that the question is about when a straight guy meets a man who dresses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I didn’t mean to say all men have fragile egos, but point out the men only, who have fragile egos.. and aren’t used being other-ised … please don’t just at me with “NOT ALL MEN!”

I know!!

I liked reading your post op.

I have a very very masculine friend who I was able to describe why I might find a woman (ts) attractive and given the opportunity would snog her. He said I was bi.

After a long discussion and showing a certain girl to him. He’s now bi curious aswell now.

I don’t describe myself as curious. I’m just me.

Ha the thing is most people might think of a trans woman as a man with a wig and a dress …which, nothing wrong with that but it’s a misconception…trans come in different shape and sizes.

Some are super passable , some are less passable because they transitioned later in life, or they have features that are more manly.

So like any woman really (surely men aren’t attracted to every single woman who’s walking the earth…C’MON!)

And a lot of men, are attracted and open to the right trans woman, given the opportunity (doesn’t suddenly makes them gay). Btw I totally get genital preference, but some do end up having the surgery so, u get a closer step to bridge the genital preference “issue”

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

"The world would be a boring place of we were all the same but why do straight men (as they claim) want to meet TV/TS?? "

Gynosexuality, sometimes spelled gynesexuality, describes someone who's attracted to femininity.

That means a person of any gender can be attracted to someone who identifies as female or who expresses feminine characteristics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The world would be a boring place of we were all the same but why do straight men (as they claim) want to meet TV/TS??

Well first of all, there’s a distinction between transvestite and transsexual.

So as you can see, there’s quite a difference! You can remove the dress and make up from a trans woman, she’d still be considered a woman.

Assuming that a man attracted to a woman of trans experience is not straight, would be saying.. “well she’s not really a she , she’s man.. so he must be gay”

There are plenty of trans beautiful women out there, who look and sound just like any women and you wouldn’t be able to tell they are trans, unless they told u they are

Look at Samantha lux, Maya V Henry, Indya Moore, Hunter Schafer for example! Some of them have had the vagina surgery

Hope this helps

I absolutely understand what you’re saying and viewing from a trans woman’s stance, that makes complete sense. A straight man meeting a straight woman.

I think that the question is about when a straight guy meets a man who dresses"

That’d be a bit blurred lines. Like, I think the thing with a trans person, is that I’d say generally speaking.. the partner doesn’t see the trans woman as any different than a woman. Making it straight.

With a man who dresses. It really depends. Does the guy think of them as women in that moment in time? Or is he concious about them being men and is turned on only by their clothes? Also what does he want to do when with that person? Is he interested in the genitalia ?

As it’s an illusion during the sex act only. I’d say.

There’s an element of maybe curiosity in there.

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By *atcherwankerMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman, why should what she has between her legs make any difference?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gynosexuality, sometimes spelled gynesexuality, describes someone who's attracted to femininity. That means a person of any gender can be attracted to someone who identifies as female or who expresses feminine characteristics.

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

lovely tv/ts on this site,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I didn’t mean to say all men have fragile egos, but point out the men only, who have fragile egos.. and aren’t used being other-ised … please don’t just at me with “NOT ALL MEN!”

I know!!

I liked reading your post op.

I have a very very masculine friend who I was able to describe why I might find a woman (ts) attractive and given the opportunity would snog her. He said I was bi.

After a long discussion and showing a certain girl to him. He’s now bi curious aswell now.

I don’t describe myself as curious. I’m just me.

Ha the thing is most people might think of a trans woman as a man with a wig and a dress …which, nothing wrong with that but it’s a misconception…trans come in different shape and sizes.

Some are super passable , some are less passable because they transitioned later in life, or they have features that are more manly.

So like any woman really (surely men aren’t attracted to every single woman who’s walking the earth…C’MON!)

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous. "

Really! What about the old Navy saying "It's not gay if you're underway"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous.

Really! What about the old Navy saying "It's not gay if you're underway""

Haha.

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By *enfleetMaleMan
over a year ago

Hadleigh

There is straight and there is Fab straight.

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By *opman121Man
over a year ago

stoke on trent

More chance on getting a meet I guess

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By *andyMinx_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds

"Maybe they're attracted to feminity, whatever the chromosomes. "

Exactly this. There is research on the subject for anyone who's interested.

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By *hilledGuyClactonMan
over a year ago

Little clacton

Maybe because there's a difference in being turned on by someone who looks feminine,Than to some man with a beard

I've never been turned on by a man,but get turned on by convincing TV etc

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"Maybe because there's a difference in being turned on by someone who looks feminine,Than to some man with a beard

I've never been turned on by a man,but get turned on by convincing TV etc "

So not straight then

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"being controversial! could it be that there are so few women out looking for fun that they have turned?

Realy? Desperation can make someone Bi?

I don’t think it’s controversial, I think it preposterous.

Really! What about the old Navy saying "It's not gay if you're underway""

Or; it’s only gay if you push back………?

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

"Gynosexuality, sometimes spelled gynesexuality, describes someone who's attracted to femininity. That means a person of any gender can be attracted to someone who identifies as female or who expresses feminine characteristics."

exactly what I said.. smart minds think alike..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

exactly what I said.. smart minds think alike..

Every day’s a school day - guess I’m gynosexual then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are fab straight

Thats funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they're straight and looking for those that identify as female, born that way or not.

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By *astcoast2000Man
over a year ago

Newcastle County Down

There is always a Karen

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By *exyangietgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh

I think it's because lots of us girls take time to look sexy, dress in sexy things and know instinctively what arouses guys whether they're straight or not....oh, and lots of us girls can be total sluts in the bedroom!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Commonly known as "prison gay""
Voice of experience?

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By *ustauseerTV/TS
over a year ago

Sedgemoor

Another post like this, really?

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By *vanabeusedTV/TS
over a year ago

somewhere

No comment

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

they just want to get straight into the anus I guess

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

Because they maybe at the very least bi-curious and dont wamt to put that on their profile incase it impacts their chances of a meet with a nice fem who wont meet bi or curious men

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

"Does it matter and is it really hurting you?"

It matters if they are intentionally lying on their profile to meet others who wouldnt normally meet them if they knew their true sexuality

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By *heelsmanMan
over a year ago

Staines

"Maybe they're attracted to feminity, whatever the chromosomes. "

Again, this 100% is my feeling.

I have been lucky to meet some wonderful TS lady's who are far more feminine that some ladys I've met & this is what attracts me.

I would never meet another guy, just not my thing, even if they were in womens lingerie.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey Mabel no label lol

exactly what I said.. smart minds think alike..

Every day’s a school day - guess I’m gynosexual then

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

[Removed by poster at 24/07/22 17:35:50]

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Hey Mabel no label lol

Label shmabel,

Every part of a written profile is a label. It's false labelling if you lie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The world would be a boring place of we were all the same but why do straight men (as they claim) want to meet TV/TS?? "

A "straight" man wouldn't want to meet a TV.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

They've run out of women?

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By *enfleetMaleMan
over a year ago

Hadleigh

Ultimately it does not matter the whys and wherefores. Are they causing harm? Are they having a good time? Are they safe? The psychology behind who wants what is different for everyone. Why men who are straight want to be with a TV or whoever is down to those people. I'm not being harmed. I think that getting into how their mind works is a minefield and you'll never get to the bottom of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a full time transgender woman. I have been since the age of 14yrs. I'm finding many of the messages on this thread offensive. But it does prove that the brits are world beaters at something. Ignorance!

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By *enfleetMaleMan
over a year ago

Hadleigh

No good saying something is offensive but not offering any explanation. Yes it may be offensive but unless you explain what and how then people will continue to live in ignorance. This is the perfect opportunity to put things straight. Be specific, what is upsetting you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your ignorance is astounding. Does a black man have to explain why he is black? The very fact you have written such a message I find astounding. I'm a real transgender woman not somebody who dresses up for fun. You and your friends are discussing me and others like me in an offensive manner. Ignorance is no excuse. Have another read through. Not all are offensive I agree. But there are some who consider people like me a joke. I'm afraid your ignorance is perpetuating that attitude. Now complain to admin that I've upset you? I don't have an opinion on you and your life so why should you sneeringly sit back and have an opinion on mine. Educate yourself as you are a grown woman. Ironically I trained to be a teacher but could only work in country's abroad who didn't see people like me as a problem. Have a lovely evening x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a TV. I'm a transgender woman. A transvestite is something completely different. The Germans did a big study in Berlin in the 1930s concerning transgender people. They encouraged them to visit the 'El Dorado' Street in Berlin. There was clubs and bars there where they could meet. However by the end of 1942 they were all dead. Please try and be respectful when it comes to transgender people. It would make such a lovely change. With respect have a great evening x

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By *heelsmanMan
over a year ago

Staines

A "straight" man wouldn't want to meet a TV. "

Would a straight man want to meet a TS ?

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"I'm not a TV. I'm a transgender woman. A transvestite is something completely different. The Germans did a big study in Berlin in the 1930s concerning transgender people. They encouraged them to visit the 'El Dorado' Street in Berlin. There was clubs and bars there where they could meet. However by the end of 1942 they were all dead. Please try and be respectful when it comes to transgender people. It would make such a lovely change. With respect have a great evening x"

In fact that really famous photo of the Nazi's burning books (well one of three)... that is the Library of the world's first Trans Health Clinic started by Magnus Hirschfeld.

One of the things they would do for people who questioned their identity was have people spend a few evenings talking to other trans people in the Cafe D'Eon (named after Chevalière d'Éon A Transwoman who started presenting as a woman in 1777)

Trans gender history is both fascinating and stretches back FAR FAR further than most will think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes trans people are fascinating. According to the Genetics journal written in January last year.

Geneticists have discovered that all human embryos start life as females, as do all embryos of mammals. So there is some possible explanation as to why trans people like me get so fed up of the ignorance. Everyone is female to begin with. Having a double x chromosome signature like I do as do all women. Chew on that darlings xx

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"Yes trans people are fascinating. According to the Genetics journal written in January last year.

Yup the biology certainly supports the statement:

All people Assigned Male at Birth have undergone a genetic deviation.

Also the process which decides assigned gender at birth is also in no way connected to brain development, which may explain why Trans people's brains function far more like their true gender than the gender assigned at birth when mapped in an MRI

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't it interesting how there are people on here making comments about trans people. When you try to directly interact with them. You can't because they've blocked people who are trans. Oh dear.

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"Isn't it interesting how there are people on here making comments about trans people. When you try to directly interact with them. You can't because they've blocked people who are trans. Oh dear."

you may be interested in an amusing headline which I read which may (Or may not) be strikingly pertinent to this.

And that is there is a study that shows that right wing conservatives are obsessed with searching for Transgender Porn.

I cannot link it because it is not on one of the Big news sites (no shock there) still a credible site though.

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By *ttmcdguyTV/TS
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"From my experience

They have tryed with woman and see us as the next best thing

Not speaking for all tv/ts

But most aren’t in to the whole social aspect with guys or the cuddle after words

Most are just looking for sex

You know come bang zip and go

Witch plays in to what they think this site is all about ie they think it’s a sex site "

I totally agree with this statement

I don’t reply to anyone who is not looking for tvs or straight on there profile

I label as bi sexual as that’s what I am

Being honest I identify as a straight male 99% of my life as that’s what I am 99% of my life

But when I get the 1% chance to be talisha then I’m 100% bi sexual

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By *argaret James200TV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Maybe they're attracted to feminity, whatever the chromosomes. "

ladies and gentlemen we have it in a nutshell, you are so right. Most men want someone feminine, soft, tender, caring and pleasurable, someone who wants to enjoy with them the fun of sex, that they don't have to compete in the cock race with as one guy said to me once "as long as I'm giving cock not taking cock I'm still straight, my cutie pie".

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

really,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does it matter and is it really hurting you?

It matters if they are intentionally lying on their profile to meet others who wouldnt normally meet them if they knew their true sexuality

But why does that matter? If I’m meeting a woman for sex why should she care who I’ve been with previously? This is not the kind of site where you ask for someone’s sexual history

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

Its kinda like all the ladies profiles who say they are straight but only want to meet women. They just want to explore there sexuality

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whats it got to do with any of us, what 2 consenting adults get upto is their business.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

"Whats it got to do with any of us, what 2 consenting adults get upto is their business."
exactly

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By *jekimMan
over a year ago

Wigan

Because they are not straight an it's not exactly easy to meet women as a single man on here haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe they're attracted to feminity, whatever the chromosomes. "

PRECISELY THIS.

I have TV/TS on my profile because I am attracted to the femininity. A few years back something completely changed my way mindset when I unknowingly on a night out pulled a transitioned female. I thought absolutely nothing of it until she mentioned it to me as I was heading out of the club with her, but by that point I was so attracted to her visually (because lets face it, no one pulls in a club because of peoples personalities or outlook on the worlds geo politics lol) that I honestly didn't care in the slightest, and my mindset has changed to be that way ever since. TS women who have committed and made their transition are just that, women. They look like women, they talk like women, because *drum roll please* THEY ARE WOMEN.

So I 100% identify as straight, because I identify TS women as such, women.

Now crossdressers (men who simply dress up) are a completely different kettle of fish and they do absolutely nothing for me personally. I'm not attracted to them in any way what so ever. So if I was Bi like so many people with their archaic mindsets on this thread are claiming, surely I would be attracted to crossdressers also, no???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The world would be a boring place of we were all the same but why do straight men (as they claim) want to meet TV/TS??

Well first of all, there’s a distinction between transvestite and transsexual.

So as you can see, there’s quite a difference! You can remove the dress and make up from a trans woman, she’d still be considered a woman.

Assuming that a man attracted to a woman of trans experience is not straight, would be saying.. “well she’s not really a she , she’s man.. so he must be gay”

There are plenty of trans beautiful women out there, who look and sound just like any women and you wouldn’t be able to tell they are trans, unless they told u they are

Look at Samantha lux, Maya V Henry, Indya Moore, Hunter Schafer for example! Some of them have had the vagina surgery

Hope this helps

Preeeeaachhhhhhh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These things aren't black and white.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get this a lot which is why I've added a bit on my profile.

I've noticed many message when the pubs shut and they've had no luck with the ladies.

Yeah sure hunny, I'd meet you, but you'd get a shock when I ram my cock in your mouth!

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