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"i once went to a VERY well known swinger club outskirts of london when i first started swinging nearly EVERYONE there was pilled up and off their heads! Then a few years after i went to another club to see if it was any different. This one was even worse in the midlands I mean people can do whatever they want thats up to them but gurning in a sex club and probably not remembering much of it the next day isnt my idea of fun Do i go to swinger clubs anymore?? I think not!! lol" lol the downside of extacy the love drug...rampagin horn but face pulling of a professional gurner!!! | |||
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"i once went to a VERY well known swinger club outskirts of london when i first started swinging nearly EVERYONE there was pilled up and off their heads! Then a few years after i went to another club to see if it was any different. This one was even worse in the midlands I mean people can do whatever they want thats up to them but gurning in a sex club and probably not remembering much of it the next day isnt my idea of fun Do i go to swinger clubs anymore?? I think not!! lol" gurning pmsl.... Well said.. and very apt lol.. The faces these peeps pull eh!! Sad to have to take crap just to be able to socialise though.. Surely? | |||
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"i think a lot of peeps wouldnt even swing if they didnt have something in their system to be honest" A few drinks to relax yeah.. can even understand Viagra to a degree.. But harder stuff, Ooooerr.. | |||
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"whats even more disturbing is that the average purity of any peddled at street level is around the 10% mark.......so in reality they are shovelling 90% shite up their nasal passages. oh how great it is to dabble in the "showbiz" drug......hence it is so cheap and available now" Bloody Hell... Imagine what that does to your brain cells?? Ooooerr... | |||
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"What are peoples views on those with dependancy on these to play.. or even function... Day to day kinda thing? Would you steer clear.. see it as a fun side of them or even see it as something the police need to be aware of?? Seeing someone like it makes us cringe.. Its shocked us how rife it seems to be in the scene and were not talking a few viagras lol.. Thoughts anyone?? " makes me vomit | |||
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"What are peoples views on those with dependancy on these to play.. or even function... Day to day kinda thing? Would you steer clear.. see it as a fun side of them or even see it as something the police need to be aware of?? Seeing someone like it makes us cringe.. Its shocked us how rife it seems to be in the scene and were not talking a few viagras lol.. Thoughts anyone?? " it would appear that society is broken, such is the trend of habitual drug taking appearing to be the norm within such a large percentage of young folk....and indeed some not so young!! i can understand the experimental youth stage but its become a much larger problem nowadays.....as mentioned by the good doctor earlier the ripple effect is so so true. but with so many children who grew up with parents with drug issues now displaying the same trends......what chance is there for the next generation!!! where has it all went wrong?? who is to blame?? how do we fix it?? does the justice system need to dish out tougher sentences to those importing drugs or selling them?? and what about the users?? | |||
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"none of my meets have had a problem waiting for me to shoot up before we play ffs " Trust you ya nutter lol... | |||
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"I have noticed not just in swinging but people that have taken are reeaallllllly boring and can't stop talking about themselves and how wonderful they are An hour later they've gone completely paranoid and you've got a timebomb on your hands " That's because some bastard has nicked their stash | |||
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"lol!! nite nite xxxxx oh and nice to see ya back xxx " The fronts even more impressive lol... Mwah xx | |||
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"What are peoples views on those with dependancy on these to play.. or even function... Day to day kinda thing? Would you steer clear.. see it as a fun side of them or even see it as something the police need to be aware of?? Seeing someone like it makes us cringe.. Its shocked us how rife it seems to be in the scene and were not talking a few viagras lol.. Thoughts anyone?? " personally i hate d*unk people, i find them so unpredictable and some times a little scary, i was at a house party a few weeks back and there was a guy there who was really d*unk and acting a right knob head, thing was he was getting aggresive with it, forcing himself on people, i dont mean sexually just right in your face and you had no choice but to talk to him, every time i walk off he kept following me asking me 'what my problem was' he was stumbling about and falling all over, on several occasions falling into people and pushing them into walls etc, now normally i would tell him to fuck off to his face but because drink obviously bought out the nasty side to him and me being a single woman i tried to be polite and not say anything to antagonize him, in the end he was asked to leave and he went, not without a fight tho Now to me a d*unk person is not attractive or sexy and why people get d*unk in swinging situations is beyond me I personally would never play with a d*unk person because A its not attractive to have some d*unk fumbling at you and B when i play with someone i want to know they are with me because they want to be not cause its a horny pissed up anyone will do shag | |||
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"sounds like a total dickhead to me and i feel exactly the same although a hot d*unk milf forcing herself on me wouldnt be so bad lol " would u seriously play with a d*unk women forcing herself on you tho? personally i couldnt, id feel they wasnt in control of what they was doing and id feel i was taking advantage, id hate to play with someone and in the morning them wake up look at me and think .....OMG i didnt, thats last time im getting d*unk lol | |||
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"i once went to a VERY well known swinger club outskirts of london when i first started swinging nearly EVERYONE there was pilled up and off their heads! Then a few years after i went to another club to see if it was any different. This one was even worse in the midlands I mean people can do whatever they want thats up to them but gurning in a sex club and probably not remembering much of it the next day isnt my idea of fun Do i go to swinger clubs anymore?? I think not!! lol" i use swinging clubs quite a lot, infact i mainly use clubs as i just find them so much eassier than pissing about arranging meet on here, and to be honest in the 9 years ive been using them i have only seem a hand full of people who where d*unk to the point they was being a pain and very few who are obviously on drungs, guess you must have just fell unlucky on the times you went, or ive been very lucky lol i never fail to have a good night at clubs | |||
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"err no i was jesting i wouldnt contemplate such debauchary! " not that you'd admit to anyway | |||
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" Never seen them being used in life in general either " Wow - thats amazing!!! And no i am not taking the pee. In all walks of life since i was 16 and going down the pub to play pool and darts (and have me 3 halfs of lager at 65p each), i have seen drugs. I pretended i was a trainee copper at first so didnt see any of it - but as soon as they realised i wasnt 18 and NOT a trainee copper, my god - it seemed like everyone was on them, and probably was. The good thing was that even tho i was offered - i was never pressured when i said no. Have seen all kinds of ages taking them too - not just the teenagers, but people in 30's 40's and even an old work college was in her 50's used to smoke joints on a regular basis. Dont get me wrong - i have dabbled myself - its been around me too much, but its not something i particularly took to, and have been fortunate not to have felt i needed to by peer pressure or the likes. I like a good drink, and enjoy that as my poison - but as for on a meet - getting TOO d*unk not good, as i agree its not attractive, and yes it numbs the bits! | |||
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"to be honest with you i have never seen anyone take drugs, ive seen a few who have obviously been on them but never seen them take them " Gawd - it must just be me mixing with the wrong sort of people then, lol | |||
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"whats even more disturbing is that the average purity of any peddled at street level is around the 10% mark.......so in reality they are shovelling 90% shite up their nasal passages. oh how great it is to dabble in the "showbiz" drug......hence it is so cheap and available now Bloody Hell... Imagine what that does to your brain cells?? Ooooerr..." It's hard to imagine a user having brain cells. | |||
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"and can someone tell me where do they get the money ? " Crime. | |||
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"and can someone tell me where do they get the money ? " It starts with the money from their parents 'pocket money' for some. Teenage kids today are given increasing amounts of weekly cash year on year, £50.00 + per weekend is now common place with more than people here may realise. A few little white lies from our children that most swallow and job done. | |||
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"Do poppers come under the catagory of using a substance?" Why wouldn't they ? | |||
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"just suprised no-one has mentioned them I don't drink, but do have play with poppers now and again. " poppers nearly killed me!! never again lmao | |||
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"AND BY THE WAY IF IT WAS NOT FOR DRUGS WE WOULD ALL BE DEAD COS HOW WOULD WE GET RID OF ALL THEM SICKY THINGS LOL" I think they mean recreational drugs and not drugs to treat illness etc! I have a couple of drinks usually but never have too much and have never done drugs in my life - if you need something in order to swing then you shouldn't be doing it! | |||
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"just suprised no-one has mentioned them I don't drink, but do have play with poppers now and again. poppers nearly killed me!! never again lmao" Sure you didnt mix up poppers and bangers, a lit banger up your nose would certainly sting | |||
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"I don't need poppers to swing, but I do think that it is just an added extra and perfectly acceptable to use them within the realms of swinging, or indeed sex in general." While I think everybody is entitled to do whatever they want and part of the fun of a place like this is finding out other folks opinions of certain things, my own view is a little cautious, I think that most of the alkyl nitrites (poppers) can be fairly safely used but can be VERY dangerous if combined with other drugs, ( esp. heart medicines or viagra ) . Its a risk VS reward situation, make your own mind up . | |||
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"just suprised no-one has mentioned them I don't drink, but do have play with poppers now and again. poppers nearly killed me!! never again lmao Sure you didnt mix up poppers and bangers, a lit banger up your nose would certainly sting " no i stupidly let a guy hold them and he ended up tipping them up me nose the fucking div lol | |||
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"You're right about alcohol and I think its about how any sort of substance affects you If it turns you into a mumbling,miserable paranoid wreck then it does'nt make you very attractive,therefore I know I would'nt want to be involved with anyone displaying those signs in a play situation and would steer well clear People can take what they like when they like its up to them,most adults know the what the effects could be and make their own informed choices,my choice is to leave them to it on their own" I find myself wondering now just how many, bearing in mind how nerve-racking meets etc are for most, would be - mumbling, miserable, paranoid wrecks without using one substance or another during a meet. To date I'm the only person I know that used to swing sober, in fact I only started drinking booze again to be 'swinging social' after 15 years of being tea total. | |||
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"i always use date rape drugs when i am on a meet, oe shall i say my other meets use it, but just dont know " I swallow copious amounts of date rape drugs, still rape free here | |||
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"You're right about alcohol and I think its about how any sort of substance affects you If it turns you into a mumbling,miserable paranoid wreck then it does'nt make you very attractive,therefore I know I would'nt want to be involved with anyone displaying those signs in a play situation and would steer well clear People can take what they like when they like its up to them,most adults know the what the effects could be and make their own informed choices,my choice is to leave them to it on their own I find myself wondering now just how many, bearing in mind how nerve-racking meets etc are for most, would be - mumbling, miserable, paranoid wrecks without using one substance or another during a meet. To date I'm the only person I know that used to swing sober, in fact I only started drinking booze again to be 'swinging social' after 15 years of being tea total." Steve doesn't drink before or during meets as he's usually driving! Even at home he will have a soft drink, and we meet lots of people who don't drink or just drink a small amount. We do feel nervous before meets esp if never met the couple before but don't need alcohol to go through with it! Live and let live though, if other people want to use drugs then it's their choice. | |||
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"If you can't play without the need for drink/drugs and/or 'Viagra'(with the obvious exceptions) then you have a dependency, the only difference being people simply choose to place their personal thing into their safe mental box. " Whilst i'd agree with what your saying.. never yet seen anyone get arsey on Viagra lol.. Not even sure if it gives a high?? Does it? | |||
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"Reading some here makes me want to clarify the difference between a little snifter, or the people who have a few to relax and enjoy... to those who have a serious 'need' to get absolutely smashed.. I doubt there are many of us who have been to a party or social etc.. where there is that one or two couples who in their eyes are the life and soul... but to others are making complete fools of themselves at best or find them intimidating and even threatening at worst.. Just plain ugly in our opinion and when combined with recreational drugs as they are called.. possibly dangerous not only for them but for others around.. " Would have to agree with you there - it's not very nice being threatening towards others d*unk, stoned or sober, takes all sorts huh | |||
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"If you can't play without the need for drink/drugs and/or 'Viagra'(with the obvious exceptions) then you have a dependency, the only difference being people simply choose to place their personal thing into their safe mental box. Whilst i'd agree with what your saying.. never yet seen anyone get arsey on Viagra lol.. Not even sure if it gives a high?? Does it? " Like many things depends on the situation, I'm sure a male that has popped a few Viagra down his neck, stood with a raging erection, and no one to play with would be less than happy. And given the opportunity would no doubt get a touch agitated, leading to abuse self or otherwise. | |||
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"Reading some here makes me want to clarify the difference between a little snifter, or the people who have a few to relax and enjoy... to those who have a serious 'need' to get absolutely smashed.. I doubt there are many of us who have been to a party or social etc.. where there is that one or two couples who in their eyes are the life and soul... but to others are making complete fools of themselves at best or find them intimidating and even threatening at worst.. Just plain ugly in our opinion and when combined with recreational drugs as they are called.. possibly dangerous not only for them but for others around.. Would have to agree with you there - it's not very nice being threatening towards others d*unk, stoned or sober, takes all sorts huh " Agree with you totally on that. You wouldn’t believe some people! Come over screaming and balling and you! Wow good job I always smile at such things my self! | |||
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"My father liked his drinks, and put my mum through years of misery. He only stopped when he was informed he had about 6mths left to live Ironically, I got his drinking gene, and can handle alcohol, unlike my siblings. I have no time for d*unks, especially those that are violent when d*unk. " I agree, my Mum was an alcoholic and it's heart breaking, I wouldn't condemn any one with a drink problem but it isn't nice to see people falling about d*unk. | |||
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"My father liked his drinks, and put my mum through years of misery. He only stopped when he was informed he had about 6mths left to live Ironically, I got his drinking gene, and can handle alcohol, unlike my siblings. I have no time for d*unks, especially those that are violent when d*unk. I agree, my Mum was an alcoholic and it's heart breaking, I wouldn't condemn any one with a drink problem but it isn't nice to see people falling about d*unk." Its so sad to see those who do and think they are being funny.. and think they are so cool doing so, when really just about everyone just thinks them nothing but stupid d*unks.. | |||
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" Agree with you totally on that. You wouldn’t believe some people! Come over screaming and balling and you! Wow good job I always smile at such things my self! " Thats what I mean... not something they would do sober eh... Sober or straight! Shameful behaviour... | |||
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"My father liked his drinks, and put my mum through years of misery. He only stopped when he was informed he had about 6mths left to live Ironically, I got his drinking gene, and can handle alcohol, unlike my siblings. I have no time for d*unks, especially those that are violent when d*unk. " is there such a thing as a drinking gene? lol im sure alcoholism isnt hereditary My dad was a alcholic to the point we spent most of our childhood in care home and shipped aorund family members cause we had nothing at home, everything we had of even the slightest value was sold for beer, some days the only food we would have was the free meals we got from school, he was also very violent and abusive, even more so when he couldnt get a drink, unlike yours my dad being told he was dieing didnt seem to stop him and the drink got the better of him and killed him Neither me or any of my brothers or sisters have a drinking problem tho, it think maybe people who drink a lot who have had a partent that drinks a lot do it out of habit, as it seems normal to them to drink because its all they have grown up knowing as apposed to them drinking because its someone how been passed on medically | |||
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"is there such a thing as a drinking gene? lol im sure alcoholism isnt hereditary" I personally believe there is, not towards alcohol as such, but having a tendancy towards things of an addictive nature... My father was alcoholic, not any longer thank god.... having a member of family or knowing someone who has a problem does tend to give you an awareness towards these things and makes you realise. For what it's worth my opinion is that alcohol is just a bad as most drugs. Worse than others, and perhaps not quite as bad as some of the harsher things like heroin. I'd much rather be around someone who is really stoned than someone who was really d*unk. Personally I have dabbled a bit in my time... would certainly never take anything (including usually alcohol too) if I was meeting someone. I don't really frown on people who take things, but think it's not good to meet someone that way, and if they have to then they probably have a problem that needs addressing. Still not sure if that makes them a bad person, just maybe misguided? | |||
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"is there such a thing as a drinking gene? lol im sure alcoholism isnt hereditary I personally believe there is, not towards alcohol as such, but having a tendancy towards things of an addictive nature... " Do you not just think that learned behaviour tho? Growing up to do things that you've grown up seeing as a child? If you have grown up around drungs and drink maybe because it seems normal to you you are more likely to do it. They recon over 80% of teenegaers who smoke will have at least one parent that smokes | |||
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"is there such a thing as a drinking gene? lol im sure alcoholism isnt hereditary I personally believe there is, not towards alcohol as such, but having a tendancy towards things of an addictive nature... Do you not just think that learned behaviour tho? Growing up to do things that you've grown up seeing as a child? If you have grown up around drungs and drink maybe because it seems normal to you you are more likely to do it. They recon over 80% of teenegaers who smoke will have at least one parent that smokes" Well you've got me thinking now and maybe you are right... its a complicated question I guess, there are many reasons why people habitually use and abuse substances, maybe it's a combination of both our views? lol | |||
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"is there such a thing as a drinking gene? lol im sure alcoholism isnt hereditary I personally believe there is, not towards alcohol as such, but having a tendancy towards things of an addictive nature... Do you not just think that learned behaviour tho? Growing up to do things that you've grown up seeing as a child? If you have grown up around drungs and drink maybe because it seems normal to you you are more likely to do it. They recon over 80% of teenegaers who smoke will have at least one parent that smokes Well you've got me thinking now and maybe you are right... its a complicated question I guess, there are many reasons why people habitually use and abuse substances, maybe it's a combination of both our views? lol" steady on we'll be getting onto the whole nature v nurture debate soon, over a glass of wine maybe lol | |||
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"People do have additive personalities, they tend to roll from one addiction/obsession to the next. Take a look at some of the forum posters, chat room users and tell me addicted, obsessed or just plain mad lol" Most though have self control.. and a deeper understanding of right and wrong. Besides a little madness helps eh...... | |||
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"I don't have a dribk problem - I've pretty much figured it out. There's a secret to drinking - its callled a Personal Tolerance Limit: the trick is not to go over it" Agree with that, no your limits and stay within them. For those that have no idea what a reasonable limit is there are controls in place to remind them, such as being asked/forced to leave, bans from pubs, clubs etc. Some need more reminding that others as they are either unable or unwilling to learn. | |||
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"most people like a drink no one likes a d*unk!! found this to be a very good post and many good points well done!! xx" Wonders what it would end up like if the d*unks come in later lol... Like the Jeremy Kyle Show some will see, read take it in.. then get pissed and be the same.. Hence so many willing to make themselves look so stupid on TV as well as parties and socials maybe?? | |||
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