FabSwingers.com forum: PiV

By *entle Dom OP Man
over a year ago

Shoreham

So my partner only regards penetration as sex. Is she the only one? What are peoples thoughts?

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

It can be anything that gives mutually fulfilling and gratifying pleasure.

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By *entle Dom OP Man
over a year ago

Shoreham

That's what I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with your partner..

The rest is just foreplay

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By *otmyrealname99Man
over a year ago

Manchester

"I agree with your partner..

The rest is just foreplay"
even if it gets to the happy ending?

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By *entle Dom OP Man
over a year ago

Shoreham

But foreplay is still sex surely?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"So my partner only regards penetration as sex. Is she the only one? What are peoples thoughts?"

Bill Clinton agrees

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By *entle Dom OP Man
over a year ago

Shoreham

A fair point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thats only 10% to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well technically yes

The rest is fourplay

But is this like the

It’s not sex so it’s not cheating type thing

Had a ex try that one on me

Ie blowing other guys wasn’t cheating as she wasn’t have sex with them

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By *ionaScarletTV/TS
over a year ago

Dundee

"But foreplay is still sex surely?"

If you go to a fancy restaurant for a 3 course meal cooked by an acclaimed and devastatingly good looking chef.

And for whatever reason you can imagine - you only are only served with the soup starter.

No matter how delicious that soup was

No matter how famous or handsome that chef was

No matter even if you are quite satisfied and no longer hungry

Can you really say you've had dinner?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So my partner only regards penetration as sex. Is she the only one? What are peoples thoughts?"

Bill Clinton

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

Would that mean two women can't have sex?

If they use toys is that sex?

If so, if a man uses a toy a women, is that sex?

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By *entle Dom OP Man
over a year ago

Shoreham

See I wonder if there is possibly a giving/receiving split on this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would that mean two women can't have sex?

If they use toys is that sex?

If so, if a man uses a toy a women, is that sex? "

Under the law, two women having sex doesn't count for adultery for divorce purposes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you touch someone inappropriately it’s classed as sexual assault even without penetration

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would that mean two women can't have sex?

If they use toys is that sex?

If so, if a man uses a toy a women, is that sex?

Under the law, two women having sex doesn't count for adultery for divorce purposes "

Pretty sure it’s the same two men as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It starts with the eye lightnings

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with your partner, as much fun as everything else is, that's not sex. Penetration is definitely needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Coitus

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Oral sex

Penetrative sex

Anal sex

Would I class a fumble as sex? No.

Would I class oral as sex? No.

Would I class anal as sex? Yes.

I wouldn't however be able to deny sexual activity to those I wouldn't class as sex.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

"Would that mean two women can't have sex?

If they use toys is that sex?

If so, if a man uses a toy a women, is that sex?

Under the law, two women having sex doesn't count for adultery for divorce purposes

Pretty sure it’s the same two men as well"

Yep, the law classes adultery as sex between a man and a women who are not married, but at least one is in a marriage.

So as far is the law matters, any same sex extra marital affair is fine.

The law is massively outdated in regards to most things sexual (and technological, but that's a different conversation).

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

You only have to look at another woman and undress her with your eyes and I’d be accusing you of cheating!

*Not necessarily true.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

"Would that mean two women can't have sex?

If they use toys is that sex?

If so, if a man uses a toy a women, is that sex?

Under the law, two women having sex doesn't count for adultery for divorce purposes

Pretty sure it’s the same two men as well"

As far as I was aware two men counts as they can have full penetrative sex

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

Oral sex

Penetrative sex

Anal sex

Would I class a fumble as sex? No.

Would I class oral as sex? No.

Would I class anal as sex? Yes.

I wouldn't however be able to deny sexual activity to those I wouldn't class as sex.

I think that's where differences of opinion come in, as people get confused between sex and sexual activity.

If someone is asking if someone had sex with someone else, there is a good chance they are asking if they had sexual activities with them.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Oral sex

Penetrative sex

Anal sex

Would I class a fumble as sex? No.

Would I class oral as sex? No.

Would I class anal as sex? Yes.

I wouldn't however be able to deny sexual activity to those I wouldn't class as sex.

I think that's where differences of opinion come in, as people get confused between sex and sexual activity.

If someone is asking if someone had sex with someone else, there is a good chance they are asking if they had sexual activities with them."

Whereas I'm well aware how people can be all word twisty and claim not to have known what was meant, so I can be really fucking pernickety

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

"Would that mean two women can't have sex?

If they use toys is that sex?

If so, if a man uses a toy a women, is that sex?

Under the law, two women having sex doesn't count for adultery for divorce purposes

Pretty sure it’s the same two men as well

As far as I was aware two men counts as they can have full penetrative sex "

No, it's pretty specific in stating that it is a husband or wife having sexual intercourse with someone else of the opposite sex.

Not sure why they needed to specify 'of the opposite sex' to be honest, but there we go.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

Oral sex

Penetrative sex

Anal sex

Would I class a fumble as sex? No.

Would I class oral as sex? No.

Would I class anal as sex? Yes.

I wouldn't however be able to deny sexual activity to those I wouldn't class as sex.

I think that's where differences of opinion come in, as people get confused between sex and sexual activity.

If someone is asking if someone had sex with someone else, there is a good chance they are asking if they had sexual activities with them.

Whereas I'm well aware how people can be all word twisty and claim not to have known what was meant, so I can be really fucking pernickety "

Yep. I hate it when people try to squirm out of things by using the true definition of a word, rather than the intent of what is said.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

"Would that mean two women can't have sex?

If they use toys is that sex?

If so, if a man uses a toy a women, is that sex?

Under the law, two women having sex doesn't count for adultery for divorce purposes

Pretty sure it’s the same two men as well

As far as I was aware two men counts as they can have full penetrative sex

No, it's pretty specific in stating that it is a husband or wife having sexual intercourse with someone else of the opposite sex.

Not sure why they needed to specify 'of the opposite sex' to be honest, but there we go. "

Sweet so all the dudes nobbing each other and tv/ts are legally fine then

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By *oody HuddsonMan
over a year ago

sexy town

"But foreplay is still sex surely?

If you go to a fancy restaurant for a 3 course meal cooked by an acclaimed and devastatingly good looking chef.

And for whatever reason you can imagine - you only are only served with the soup starter.

No matter how delicious that soup was

No matter how famous or handsome that chef was

No matter even if you are quite satisfied and no longer hungry

Can you really say you've had dinner?

I’d be happy with soup and bread for dinner. I have it on a regular basis lol

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"Would that mean two women can't have sex?

If they use toys is that sex?

If so, if a man uses a toy a women, is that sex?

Under the law, two women having sex doesn't count for adultery for divorce purposes

Pretty sure it’s the same two men as well

As far as I was aware two men counts as they can have full penetrative sex

No, it's pretty specific in stating that it is a husband or wife having sexual intercourse with someone else of the opposite sex.

Not sure why they needed to specify 'of the opposite sex' to be honest, but there we go. "

Save the face of the government and high up folks for shagging around behind their partners backs. Devil is in the detail and they can claim they were never adulterous and be legally right, regardless of having a fellow gents pork sword rammed up their arsehole.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything else is soft play according to her ladyship - and soft play always gets a theatrical set of air quotes.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Everything else is soft play according to her ladyship - and soft play always gets a theatrical set of air quotes.

Mr"

I thought softplay was where mums took kids to lock them away "safely" while they had a coffee and caught up on mumsnet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You only have to look at another woman and undress her with your eyes and I’d be accusing you of cheating!

*Not necessarily true."

Has a ring of truth to it but why would any man be doing that if he were with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You only have to look at another woman and undress her with your eyes and I’d be accusing you of cheating!

*Not necessarily true."

Has a ring of truth to it but why would any man be doing that if he were with you

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By *ionaScarletTV/TS
over a year ago

Dundee

"But foreplay is still sex surely?

If you go to a fancy restaurant for a 3 course meal cooked by an acclaimed and devastatingly good looking chef.

And for whatever reason you can imagine - you only are only served with the soup starter.

No matter how delicious that soup was

No matter how famous or handsome that chef was

No matter even if you are quite satisfied and no longer hungry

Can you really say you've had dinner?

I’d be happy with soup and bread for dinner. I have it on a regular basis lol "

Yeah... but if I've gotten all dressed up, hair fixed and smelling nice, soup is a bit an anticlimax.

I want the main course dammit!

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

It’s only sex once the tip is in

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

I once had a partner who considered sexual play as only PIV, and not hands/mouth stuff.

Great excuse for her to cheat

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"You only have to look at another woman and undress her with your eyes and I’d be accusing you of cheating!

*Not necessarily true.

Has a ring of truth to it but why would any man be doing that if he were with you

Smooth very smooth.

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