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"I cope fine in the heat. I like it. I’m still using my duvet at night and sleeping fine. I never have a fan on. " I was beginning to think we were weird I’ve stuck my foot out of the duvet a bit that’s all! | |||
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"Potentially.. extreme weather warning in place for the weekend So 2 questions 1) how you going to cope with the hot days… 2) any tips for warm weather sleeping? I am a really bad warm weather sleeper… my grumpiness level is going to be turned up to 11! There are reasons I left New York.. this was one of them! " Switch on the Air Conditioners, if really hot, the portable gets dragged into kitchen and tube pushed through cat-flap. Cat's don't mind as they sleep in the coolest room. Otherwise, get a large 20" high velocity air moving fan, as night cools, open all windows and blow a large volume of cooler air through from an open door. Sleep on a damp towel. A cool bath, shower is too fast to cool core down. Get in warmish bath and trickle in cold water. | |||
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"I cope fine in the heat. I like it. I’m still using my duvet at night and sleeping fine. I never have a fan on. I was beginning to think we were weird I’ve stuck my foot out of the duvet a bit that’s all! " Same I like this toastie heat. A fan would make me cold and keep me awake | |||
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"We have set our hot tub to 34 degrees and started living in there Wish we had some AC in this weather " | |||
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"I'm sure next weekend temperature will be more than 40° and can't wait " Sicko!!! You… out of my thread!!! Warm weather sufferers only!!! | |||
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"I'm sure next weekend temperature will be more than 40° and can't wait Sicko!!! You… out of my thread!!! Warm weather sufferers only!!! " Pfft... I wouldn't stay in your thread even is i was sicko | |||
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"My tip comes from a foreign friend living in the UK. During the day keep all blinds and windows shut to keep as much heat out as possible. Once the sun has gone down, open all blinds, windows and doors, keep as many open as you can all night,.even better if you can get fans on, the airflow should cool the house quickly, keeping it cool longer the next day. UK houses are made to keep heat in, so trying to keep heat out during the day then letting as much heat out as possible at night helps. " Great advice, I have all the curtains closed and alternate the front and back windows being open depending on where the sun is. | |||
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"My tip comes from a foreign friend living in the UK. During the day keep all blinds and windows shut to keep as much heat out as possible. Once the sun has gone down, open all blinds, windows and doors, keep as many open as you can all night,.even better if you can get fans on, the airflow should cool the house quickly, keeping it cool longer the next day. UK houses are made to keep heat in, so trying to keep heat out during the day then letting as much heat out as possible at night helps. " | |||
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"I just don't cope very well in the heat. I get grumpy, and blotchy and look like a red grumpy dumpling...Just do not talk to me in this heat, actually don't even breathe around me " MissDreavus: do me a favour.. Stick your bottom in the freezer - I need something cool to slip into later. | |||
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"I just don't cope very well in the heat. I get grumpy, and blotchy and look like a red grumpy dumpling...Just do not talk to me in this heat, actually don't even breathe around me MissDreavus: do me a favour.. Stick your bottom in the freezer - I need something cool to slip into later. " Why not just stick your dick in the freezer??? | |||
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"Being diabetic my circulation isn't as good as it once was. I don't cope with the heat I tend to overheat very easily. Combined with the fact I've never been good in the sun/heat and my job I have to wear workman uniform heavy trousers dark T-Shirt and safety boots. Working outside doing heavy manual labour I am fully expecting heat stroke next week. " That is something you may need to talk to your employer about. At least make them aware of the symptoms. Poor water over your head, so your clothes get wet and you air dry, if possible | |||
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"I read something about dog cooling pads earlier, don’t know if they are any good though. Maybe sleep on them " I was looking at them last night but couldn't decide if it's worth the experiment. I read a tip to sleep on a damp towel. Presumably a rinse in the washer and spin. Might try that this weekend. | |||
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"I just don't cope very well in the heat. I get grumpy, and blotchy and look like a red grumpy dumpling...Just do not talk to me in this heat, actually don't even breathe around me MissDreavus: do me a favour.. Stick your bottom in the freezer - I need something cool to slip into later. Why not just stick your dick in the freezer???" Tried it, got frost bitten.. | |||
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"I read something about dog cooling pads earlier, don’t know if they are any good though. Maybe sleep on them I was looking at them last night but couldn't decide if it's worth the experiment. I read a tip to sleep on a damp towel. Presumably a rinse in the washer and spin. Might try that this weekend. " Yep, chuck a few towels in washer, rinse and spin around 1200. Damp but not saturated. High velocity fans work great to change whole house with fresh, cooler air. Best around the time you see dew forming on car roofs as humidity is dropping out. Then get to sleep before temp rises again. | |||
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"23 and cloudy all day today.. What happened?" It’s not really the during the day temperature that is my issue… I am old man enough that give me 15 minutes sitting on a sofa and I’ll nod off… last night in Gateshead it didn’t get below 19 degrees and that was unbearable…. It could be a mental thing… day and night.. but nighttime warm weather sleeping isn’t nice at all… I have apologised in advance to all my coworkers as I know for the next 10 days I am going to be a grumpy bastard!! | |||
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"I read something about dog cooling pads earlier, don’t know if they are any good though. Maybe sleep on them I was looking at them last night but couldn't decide if it's worth the experiment. I read a tip to sleep on a damp towel. Presumably a rinse in the washer and spin. Might try that this weekend. " I have a cooling pad (for the dog). It definitely feels cool if I lie on it, so I can't see why it wouldn't work. They're a bit industrial vinyl, so you might want a sheet over the top if you're going to sleep on one. | |||
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"23 and cloudy all day today.. What happened? It’s not really the during the day temperature that is my issue… I am old man enough that give me 15 minutes sitting on a sofa and I’ll nod off… last night in Gateshead it didn’t get below 19 degrees and that was unbearable…. It could be a mental thing… day and night.. but nighttime warm weather sleeping isn’t nice at all… I have apologised in advance to all my coworkers as I know for the next 10 days I am going to be a grumpy bastard!! " Which bit was unbearable, Gateshead or 19 degrees overnight? Let me know when your Birthday is and I'll send you a rocking chair with a pair of slippers. No-one has mentioned a paddling pool to sit in. Sit out in a cool pool for a while to reduce core temp. Hot Tubs will be going cheap after October, just don't switch the heater on. Don't forget to stick a couple of 2 litre pop bottles filled with water in the fridge for the day. Couple of ice cubes in a glass and wait for the FREEEZE!! | |||
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"And as i type this… heat warning extended to Tuesday! " Ahhh shit! Still nothing like temperatures abroad but they have air con everywhere. | |||
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"And as i type this… heat warning extended to Tuesday! Ahhh shit! Still nothing like temperatures abroad but they have air con everywhere. " Temps drop at night abroad... But not by much here | |||
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"And as i type this… heat warning extended to Tuesday! Ahhh shit! Still nothing like temperatures abroad but they have air con everywhere. " How many times would I need air con living in the north east!!!! I’ve seen the 10 day forecast and when it say even Newcastle will get to 30 degrees next week you know it’s rough!!! Anyone have a Hottub I can sleep in! | |||
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"The red heat warning… think of it as a big triangle… Gatwick at the southern tip… Manchester the western tip and Hull the eastern tip! Anywhere in that triangle now has a 50/50 chance of reaching a 40 degree temperature on Monday or Tuesday……. " What are you saying OP?... Quick ... make friends with someone outside the scorchio triangle??! | |||
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"The red heat warning… think of it as a big triangle… Gatwick at the southern tip… Manchester the western tip and Hull the eastern tip! Anywhere in that triangle now has a 50/50 chance of reaching a 40 degree temperature on Monday or Tuesday……. What are you saying OP?... Quick ... make friends with someone outside the scorchio triangle??! " If you want someone outside the amber triangle you are now going to have to go up as far north as Glasgow and Edinburgh… there is no escape!!!! | |||
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"It's 18°C and overcast here in Greater Manchester. Where the fuck is this heatwave?!" Its coming, don't you fret | |||
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"It's 18°C and overcast here in Greater Manchester. Where the fuck is this heatwave?! Its coming, don't you fret " Will I feel it when it comes? | |||
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"Summer weather making the news, yet other countries with these temps are like its a a normal day Meaning the cost of living/fuel/govt mess is all still on going. Im enjoying this weather while it lasts Im not a fan of winter, but more bothered about how expensive it will to heat the house/etc " Most countries when it’s hot the people are sensible and go inside… brits are mad , go outside and try to go a shade of brown which looks more like lobster purple!!!! Don’t deny it…. We all know “purple” people!!!!! | |||
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"Forecast for here is 21 on Saturday and 23 on Sunday both days with showers" Thanks for the heads up, put the kettle on! 9 hours 50 min car journey up could be worth missing the joy of betty swallocks and everyone in a mood | |||
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"I cope by living in Scotland " Do you need any English house guests? | |||
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"Make the most of it imo. I much prefer hotter weather." People that get ill with high heat cannot "make the most of it". The cool pads for dogs that people have mentioned are available in human style too. For those of us that stop sweating at a certain point we HAVE to cool our bodies or we cook from the inside. Literally. Freeze plastic bottles with water in, for either drinking as they melt or lying next to them, covered with a towel. This can work for pets too. Rabbits are especially vulnerable | |||
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"I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't mind the heat at all. " I don’t mind it but I see it like this.. When your too hot there is only so far you can strip off. When your too cold there are no limits to the layers. Me naked in central London could make for some uncomfortable viewing | |||
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"I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't mind the heat at all. " I’m looking forward to it going to hit the river on my paddle board and spend my day on or around the river. And wine in the evening. | |||
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"I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't mind the heat at all. I don’t mind it but I see it like this.. When your too hot there is only so far you can strip off. When your too cold there are no limits to the layers. Me naked in central London could make for some uncomfortable viewing " I'm working outside, so i have no choice. My fairer skinned colleagues' arms are completely orange from just today. I just freeze a big 2 litre bottle and keep another in the fridge for the next day. I can understand why some would feel uncomfortable. On the other hand, come winter time we will all be complaining about the cold. | |||
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"I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't mind the heat at all. I don’t mind it but I see it like this.. When your too hot there is only so far you can strip off. When your too cold there are no limits to the layers. Me naked in central London could make for some uncomfortable viewing I'm working outside, so i have no choice. My fairer skinned colleagues' arms are completely orange from just today. I just freeze a big 2 litre bottle and keep another in the fridge for the next day. I can understand why some would feel uncomfortable. On the other hand, come winter time we will all be complaining about the cold. " I burn on overcast days in early April, FFS | |||
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"I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't mind the heat at all. " There is a difference between high 20’s hot and 40’s hot! The heat is bad, the city humidity will make it a lot lot worse! My fridge on Sunday is going to full of big lemon cordial drinks | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! " What about a leaf on the track....? | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! What about a leaf on the track....? " That could be the excuse (sorry reason) they need !! | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! " I think that “tracks buckling” is not the worst excuse… you know… those train thingeys trying to stay on them! | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! " The strikes are railway workers (average pay 31k) not exclusively train drivers. | |||
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"I don't know how we dealt with the heatwave in 1976! It must be so far back, no one can remember the stand pipes and the loudspeaker vans." It reached 32° we're forecast 40° | |||
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"I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't mind the heat at all. " I quite like it, but the infrastructure doesn't exist in this country to adequately deal with temperatures in the 40s. This isn't yay beach weather, it's people could die weather. | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! I think that “tracks buckling” is not the worst excuse… you know… those train thingeys trying to stay on them! " I travelled on the AVE in Spain last week. It was 40-42°C in Toledo and not much different in Madrid. How do the Spanish train tracks manage? Bear in mind it can get fairly cool in the winter in that same area.... | |||
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"I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to mention 1976 " A lot of people on here weren't alive in 1976. . I was coming up for 20 that summer | |||
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"I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to mention 1976 A lot of people on here weren't alive in 1976. . I was coming up for 20 that summer" I was 5, remember pavement sticking to my feet n pants - then the thunderstorms. | |||
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"I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to mention 1976 A lot of people on here weren't alive in 1976. . I was coming up for 20 that summer I was 5, remember pavement sticking to my feet n pants - then the thunderstorms." I can remember the summer lasting for ever and the lack of water but it was nowhere near as hot as 40 degrees! | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! I think that “tracks buckling” is not the worst excuse… you know… those train thingeys trying to stay on them! I travelled on the AVE in Spain last week. It was 40-42°C in Toledo and not much different in Madrid. How do the Spanish train tracks manage? Bear in mind it can get fairly cool in the winter in that same area...." I can actually give you a really technical answer to this.. but to keep it simple there are gaps between the rails that allow for some expansion in the normal uk weather.. but anything over about 90 means the tracks may expand beyond those gaps which means trains have to run slower to mitigate the risk of possible derailment 40 degrees equals about 106….. so what a train is doing is going quick enough to without a risk but still putting weight on it for long enough to help keep the tracks in place | |||
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"I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to mention 1976 A lot of people on here weren't alive in 1976. . I was coming up for 20 that summer" That was a great year. I was born My mum Talks about it all the time, I remember 1994 as my hottest summer to remember, that went on for weeks, Op, I have a really cool house, so I have somewhere to hade from it all if it gets too Much. But I seriously can’t get enough of this heat, it’s sad I have to work through it and not play around like when we were kids. | |||
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"I don't know how we dealt with the heatwave in 1976! It must be so far back, no one can remember the stand pipes and the loudspeaker vans. It reached 32° we're forecast 40°" So 8 degrees warmer than the warmest day in that heatwave and people are still being blasé… No offence… I have done “New York 100”… that is unbearable! The heat will be bad… the humidity will be way way worse! | |||
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"I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to mention 1976 A lot of people on here weren't alive in 1976. . I was coming up for 20 that summer I was 5, remember pavement sticking to my feet n pants - then the thunderstorms." We had a series of hot summers in the early 90's too. The River Darent dried up every year, there were hose pipe bans and the tarmac softened (the bus lanes outside Dartford library had waves in for years). However, the droughts were caused by lack of rain not extreme temperatures and it never got up to 40° | |||
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"I don't know how we dealt with the heatwave in 1976! It must be so far back, no one can remember the stand pipes and the loudspeaker vans. It reached 32° we're forecast 40° So 8 degrees warmer than the warmest day in that heatwave and people are still being blasé… No offence… I have done “New York 100”… that is unbearable! The heat will be bad… the humidity will be way way worse! " I drove through Death Valley with the ‘large thermometer! Thing. And the temp in the car was 109 degrees. I stepped out of the car and got back in. I can’t imagine what a closed in City like New York would be like, but the Uk doesn’t get this, we are just not used to it. | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! I think that “tracks buckling” is not the worst excuse… you know… those train thingeys trying to stay on them! I travelled on the AVE in Spain last week. It was 40-42°C in Toledo and not much different in Madrid. How do the Spanish train tracks manage? Bear in mind it can get fairly cool in the winter in that same area.... I can actually give you a really technical answer to this.. but to keep it simple there are gaps between the rails that allow for some expansion in the normal uk weather.. but anything over about 90 means the tracks may expand beyond those gaps which means trains have to run slower to mitigate the risk of possible derailment 40 degrees equals about 106….. so what a train is doing is going quick enough to without a risk but still putting weight on it for long enough to help keep the tracks in place " The problems a couple of years ago with the heat wasn't the tracks but the overhead power lines. They sagged due to the heat and the first train that came along ripped them all down ! Unfortunately I have to go in to work in London on Monday and I'm dreading the journey home (or not as the case was in 2019) | |||
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"I don't know how we dealt with the heatwave in 1976! It must be so far back, no one can remember the stand pipes and the loudspeaker vans. It reached 32° we're forecast 40° So 8 degrees warmer than the warmest day in that heatwave and people are still being blasé… No offence… I have done “New York 100”… that is unbearable! The heat will be bad… the humidity will be way way worse! " I think people struggle to comprehend temperature. The hottest days in summer rarely get up to 30°C, the coldest in winter very rarely go before -10°C - even in Scotland. That's a typical 40°C temperature range for our normal extremes. We're talking her about 25% more than that entire range. The jump from 30° to 40° is really quite significant especially (as you say) with the humidity. With 40°C and a relative humidity of 66% the wet bulb temperature gets to 35° - at that point all humans, irrespective of age, even naked, in the shade with a breeze will die in about 30 mins. We control our bidy temos to around 36° and this is done by radiating heat then, as it gets warmer, sweating to take advantage of evaporative cooling. At a wet bulb temperature of 35° we produce more heat, even sat still, than we can lose, so we die. Fortunately the humidity is likely to be a lot less than 66% next week but we're also not likely to be laying unmoving and naked in a breeze .. Mr | |||
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"I don't know how we dealt with the heatwave in 1976! It must be so far back, no one can remember the stand pipes and the loudspeaker vans. It reached 32° we're forecast 40° So 8 degrees warmer than the warmest day in that heatwave and people are still being blasé… No offence… I have done “New York 100”… that is unbearable! The heat will be bad… the humidity will be way way worse! " I'm not offended . I don't think many people in the UK have experienced extreme heat, can't imagine it and just don't know how to deal with it. We've experienced 42° and that was quite warm, we had to take our vests off... | |||
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"I come from a place where we have 40 degrees every day for about two months of summer. The most important advice is drink a lot of water." This…. I have just stuck 5 big bottles worth of diluted lemon cordial In the fridge ready for Monday… fizzy drinks can make the dehydration worse! | |||
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"I come from a place where we have 40 degrees every day for about two months of summer. The most important advice is drink a lot of water. This…. I have just stuck 5 big bottles worth of diluted lemon cordial In the fridge ready for Monday… fizzy drinks can make the dehydration worse! " Yup. Went hiking last weekend when it was just 30 degrees but with clear skies and sun hitting straight on me. Consumed 3 litres in 8 hours and I didn't even want to pee when I came back. That's how much water we lose. | |||
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"Cammo will be along in a minute to tell you that you all love massive temperatures really." Absolutely spectacular!! | |||
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"Potentially.. extreme weather warning in place for the weekend So 2 questions 1) how you going to cope with the hot days… 2) any tips for warm weather sleeping? I am a really bad warm weather sleeper… my grumpiness level is going to be turned up to 11! There are reasons I left New York.. this was one of them! " grab a monkey wrench and shoot the pump .... it worked when i was recording in NY .... keep your jordans handy in case the five o roll on to the set though | |||
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"Potentially.. extreme weather warning in place for the weekend So 2 questions 1) how you going to cope with the hot days… 2) any tips for warm weather sleeping? I am a really bad warm weather sleeper… my grumpiness level is going to be turned up to 11! There are reasons I left New York.. this was one of them! grab a monkey wrench and shoot the pump .... it worked when i was recording in NY .... keep your jordans handy in case the five o roll on to the set though " Let’s not talk about New York City summers.. I still fear the word brownout being mentioned | |||
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"No offence… I have done “New York 100”… that is unbearable! The heat will be bad… the humidity will be way way worse! " New York at a 100F must be hell. The heat would be bad enough, but then you've got New Yorkers too . Screw that. 1) Avoid the sun. Keep your curtains closed during the day. Block any windows that don't have curtains with cardboard etc - don't let the heat in. 2) PCs and TVs throw out a shitload of heat, keep them off if you can. If you're still using old style lightbulbs (dinosaurs!) change them for LEDs, they are much cooler. 3) Kettles act like mini-radiators. If you MUST use a kettle or toaster etc, cover it with a towel afterwards to stop the heat from spreading. 4) USE A FAN. Worry about the leccy bill later (even a big 16-inch fan will only cost pennies to run overnight, it's worth it) 5) Take a couple of baths a day. Nothing worse than that sticky sweaty feeling in the heat. A long tepid bath before bedtime will make you feel way more comfortable, esp with a fan on. My bedroom is 80F+ at night in summer, but I've slept fine. 6) Go shopping in the evening or at night when it's cooler. If you are out in the daytime and get hot, dodge into a supermarket, they are A/C cooled all day. 7) Avoid alcohol, it's dehydrating. Drink lots of water, use squash to flavour it if you don't like water. 8) Don't over exert yourselves - definitely put your exercise regime on hold for a few days. 9) Keep an eye on old folks. Make sure elderly relatives have a fan and know how to keep cool. Back in 2019 I visited my octogenarian uncle on a 90F+ day and found he had the heating full on "to dry his towels". 10) Good luck and stay safe. And remember, if the scientists are right, in future 40C summer days could be the new norm. Get practicing now. | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! I think that “tracks buckling” is not the worst excuse… you know… those train thingeys trying to stay on them! I travelled on the AVE in Spain last week. It was 40-42°C in Toledo and not much different in Madrid. How do the Spanish train tracks manage? Bear in mind it can get fairly cool in the winter in that same area.... I can actually give you a really technical answer to this.. but to keep it simple there are gaps between the rails that allow for some expansion in the normal uk weather.. but anything over about 90 means the tracks may expand beyond those gaps which means trains have to run slower to mitigate the risk of possible derailment 40 degrees equals about 106….. so what a train is doing is going quick enough to without a risk but still putting weight on it for long enough to help keep the tracks in place " Okay, but how do the Spanish railways continue to run high speed trains in 40-42°C temperatures? AVE covered Madrid to Toledo in 33 minutes last week and no sniff of delay or cancellation due to high temperatures. AVE runs in those temperatures all the time, yet in the UK, we're being told it may lead to cancellation? | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! I think that “tracks buckling” is not the worst excuse… you know… those train thingeys trying to stay on them! I travelled on the AVE in Spain last week. It was 40-42°C in Toledo and not much different in Madrid. How do the Spanish train tracks manage? Bear in mind it can get fairly cool in the winter in that same area.... I can actually give you a really technical answer to this.. but to keep it simple there are gaps between the rails that allow for some expansion in the normal uk weather.. but anything over about 90 means the tracks may expand beyond those gaps which means trains have to run slower to mitigate the risk of possible derailment 40 degrees equals about 106….. so what a train is doing is going quick enough to without a risk but still putting weight on it for long enough to help keep the tracks in place Okay, but how do the Spanish railways continue to run high speed trains in 40-42°C temperatures? AVE covered Madrid to Toledo in 33 minutes last week and no sniff of delay or cancellation due to high temperatures. AVE runs in those temperatures all the time, yet in the UK, we're being told it may lead to cancellation?" I know that Australian infrastructure is built to different standards than the UK due to heat concerns - I suspect that's true in other places with similar peaks (maybe even where it also gets cold? I don't know) | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! I think that “tracks buckling” is not the worst excuse… you know… those train thingeys trying to stay on them! I travelled on the AVE in Spain last week. It was 40-42°C in Toledo and not much different in Madrid. How do the Spanish train tracks manage? Bear in mind it can get fairly cool in the winter in that same area.... I can actually give you a really technical answer to this.. but to keep it simple there are gaps between the rails that allow for some expansion in the normal uk weather.. but anything over about 90 means the tracks may expand beyond those gaps which means trains have to run slower to mitigate the risk of possible derailment 40 degrees equals about 106….. so what a train is doing is going quick enough to without a risk but still putting weight on it for long enough to help keep the tracks in place Okay, but how do the Spanish railways continue to run high speed trains in 40-42°C temperatures? AVE covered Madrid to Toledo in 33 minutes last week and no sniff of delay or cancellation due to high temperatures. AVE runs in those temperatures all the time, yet in the UK, we're being told it may lead to cancellation? I know that Australian infrastructure is built to different standards than the UK due to heat concerns - I suspect that's true in other places with similar peaks (maybe even where it also gets cold? I don't know)" It can get fairly cold in that area of Spain in the winter, snow on the hills etc. | |||
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"I expecting chaos on the trains! Those poor drivers have to work a ridiculous 35 hours a week for a measly £60k a year and will be looking for any reason to get those trains cancelled !! I think that “tracks buckling” is not the worst excuse… you know… those train thingeys trying to stay on them! I travelled on the AVE in Spain last week. It was 40-42°C in Toledo and not much different in Madrid. How do the Spanish train tracks manage? Bear in mind it can get fairly cool in the winter in that same area.... I can actually give you a really technical answer to this.. but to keep it simple there are gaps between the rails that allow for some expansion in the normal uk weather.. but anything over about 90 means the tracks may expand beyond those gaps which means trains have to run slower to mitigate the risk of possible derailment 40 degrees equals about 106….. so what a train is doing is going quick enough to without a risk but still putting weight on it for long enough to help keep the tracks in place Okay, but how do the Spanish railways continue to run high speed trains in 40-42°C temperatures? AVE covered Madrid to Toledo in 33 minutes last week and no sniff of delay or cancellation due to high temperatures. AVE runs in those temperatures all the time, yet in the UK, we're being told it may lead to cancellation? I know that Australian infrastructure is built to different standards than the UK due to heat concerns - I suspect that's true in other places with similar peaks (maybe even where it also gets cold? I don't know) It can get fairly cold in that area of Spain in the winter, snow on the hills etc. " Yes - that's what I mean. Perhaps there's ways to deal with both extreme heat and temperate winter with infrastructure, but I don't know the details. I can speak to a notch or two below subtropical | |||
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"Open your loft hatch (if you have one), the hot air upstairs will keep going up " Good shout. | |||
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"Treat it like those who live in hot countries do, then the not so extreme heat is easily manageable. The temp will be unusual for the UK, but not for many parts of the world where others live with higher temperatures. " But that's the point we don't have the infrastructure or procedures in place to cope with this heat like other countries who experience it regularly. You can't expect this country to handle it in the same way as another that has high temperatures throughout the summer every year. | |||
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"Treat it like those who live in hot countries do, then the not so extreme heat is easily manageable. The temp will be unusual for the UK, but not for many parts of the world where others live with higher temperatures. But that's the point we don't have the infrastructure or procedures in place to cope with this heat like other countries who experience it regularly. You can't expect this country to handle it in the same way as another that has high temperatures throughout the summer every year. " Nor general knowledge of sun sense and heat sense. People might well endanger themselves inadvertently | |||
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"Treat it like those who live in hot countries do, then the not so extreme heat is easily manageable. The temp will be unusual for the UK, but not for many parts of the world where others live with higher temperatures. But that's the point we don't have the infrastructure or procedures in place to cope with this heat like other countries who experience it regularly. You can't expect this country to handle it in the same way as another that has high temperatures throughout the summer every year. Nor general knowledge of sun sense and heat sense. People might well endanger themselves inadvertently " Well this is it's all well a good saying stay in but not everyone has the Luxury of being able to work from home or take a day off. The difference in countries that are used to heat is they have air conditioning as standard everywhere, We do not we also He also don't have roads or public transport infrastructure that can withstand high temperatures. Obviously this is something that may need to change but I think it's unhelpful to just say treat it as you would in Spain for example. | |||
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"Treat it like those who live in hot countries do, then the not so extreme heat is easily manageable. The temp will be unusual for the UK, but not for many parts of the world where others live with higher temperatures. But that's the point we don't have the infrastructure or procedures in place to cope with this heat like other countries who experience it regularly. You can't expect this country to handle it in the same way as another that has high temperatures throughout the summer every year. Nor general knowledge of sun sense and heat sense. People might well endanger themselves inadvertently Well this is it's all well a good saying stay in but not everyone has the Luxury of being able to work from home or take a day off. The difference in countries that are used to heat is they have air conditioning as standard everywhere, We do not we also He also don't have roads or public transport infrastructure that can withstand high temperatures. Obviously this is something that may need to change but I think it's unhelpful to just say treat it as you would in Spain for example. " I'm not saying everyone stay in. I'm saying people don't have the background knowledge to handle the heat appropriately, and at these extremes, it might endanger health. | |||
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"Treat it like those who live in hot countries do, then the not so extreme heat is easily manageable. The temp will be unusual for the UK, but not for many parts of the world where others live with higher temperatures. But that's the point we don't have the infrastructure or procedures in place to cope with this heat like other countries who experience it regularly. You can't expect this country to handle it in the same way as another that has high temperatures throughout the summer every year. Nor general knowledge of sun sense and heat sense. People might well endanger themselves inadvertently Well this is it's all well a good saying stay in but not everyone has the Luxury of being able to work from home or take a day off. The difference in countries that are used to heat is they have air conditioning as standard everywhere, We do not we also He also don't have roads or public transport infrastructure that can withstand high temperatures. Obviously this is something that may need to change but I think it's unhelpful to just say treat it as you would in Spain for example. I'm not saying everyone stay in. I'm saying people don't have the background knowledge to handle the heat appropriately, and at these extremes, it might endanger health." I know you're not saying that but plenty of people not just on here have been saying things like that. I think it's really good that we have warnings and advice and I know some say it's like the nanny state but I think it's helpful. It's not something we're used to so as you say some people may not be aware they are putting themselves at risk. | |||
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"Treat it like those who live in hot countries do, then the not so extreme heat is easily manageable. The temp will be unusual for the UK, but not for many parts of the world where others live with higher temperatures. But that's the point we don't have the infrastructure or procedures in place to cope with this heat like other countries who experience it regularly. You can't expect this country to handle it in the same way as another that has high temperatures throughout the summer every year. Nor general knowledge of sun sense and heat sense. People might well endanger themselves inadvertently Well this is it's all well a good saying stay in but not everyone has the Luxury of being able to work from home or take a day off. The difference in countries that are used to heat is they have air conditioning as standard everywhere, We do not we also He also don't have roads or public transport infrastructure that can withstand high temperatures. Obviously this is something that may need to change but I think it's unhelpful to just say treat it as you would in Spain for example. I'm not saying everyone stay in. I'm saying people don't have the background knowledge to handle the heat appropriately, and at these extremes, it might endanger health. I know you're not saying that but plenty of people not just on here have been saying things like that. I think it's really good that we have warnings and advice and I know some say it's like the nanny state but I think it's helpful. It's not something we're used to so as you say some people may not be aware they are putting themselves at risk. " I think it's the job of the state to inform and educate. Nanny state would be making people drink water with every unit of alcohol when over X degrees or something. Good advice, yes. But if people want to fuck around, some of them will find out. | |||
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"1) put suncream on, drink water, wear a hat if the sun is strong 2) open the windows" For 2) I'd say don't open them if the temperature outside is higher than inside, and you are trying to stay cool. This will also depend on what sort of breeze you may have. Taller building might have a cool breeze? | |||
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"some people may not be aware they are putting themselves at risk. " Definitely, I'm surprised at how many people I've spoken to this week have made no preparations. And don't even know how to get cool if it becomes necessary. Some older people don't even know what 40 C deg is. When I tell them its about 120 deg F they suddenly take notice. If you've got any older neighbours keep and eye on them as well if possible. | |||
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"1) put suncream on, drink water, wear a hat if the sun is strong 2) open the windows For 2) I'd say don't open them if the temperature outside is higher than inside, and you are trying to stay cool. This will also depend on what sort of breeze you may have. Taller building might have a cool breeze?" Open windows after sunset and get cool air in. Close windows and curtains during the day. Try to block it out like you would the cold. | |||
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"Open windows after sunset and get cool air in. Close windows and curtains during the day. Try to block it out like you would the cold." This is true I use the BBC weather app myself to see the expected temperature so I know when it's safe to open the windows | |||
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"My ex had hack I live by in hot weather! Fill an empty 2L bottle with water. Wipe the outsides down so it’s totally dry, then put it in the freezer for an hour or so before bed. Then take it out, wrap it in a pillowcase and you basically have a cool water bottle. I just roll it around my bed and it keeps the blankets cool but not wet. " I have one in the freezer for later as we speak | |||
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"My ex had hack I live by in hot weather! Fill an empty 2L bottle with water. Wipe the outsides down so it’s totally dry, then put it in the freezer for an hour or so before bed. Then take it out, wrap it in a pillowcase and you basically have a cool water bottle. I just roll it around my bed and it keeps the blankets cool but not wet. " I have a long hot water bottle I'm going to put ice cubes in to take to bed. | |||
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"Treat it like those who live in hot countries do, then the not so extreme heat is easily manageable. The temp will be unusual for the UK, but not for many parts of the world where others live with higher temperatures. " I'll nap the whole of Monday and Tuesday then. | |||
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"1) put suncream on, drink water, wear a hat if the sun is strong 2) open the windows For 2) I'd say don't open them if the temperature outside is higher than inside, and you are trying to stay cool. This will also depend on what sort of breeze you may have. Taller building might have a cool breeze?" Tonight is the coolest night we will have in a while… so leave as many of them open as you can.. and when you wake up tomorrow morning… shut them all and close as many blinds and windows till probably Wednesday!! | |||
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"Satin pillowcases are cooler than cotton, they do tend to slide about the bed a fair bit mind. " I've got single sided silk pillowcases - the cotton underside doesn't slide. | |||
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"1) put suncream on, drink water, wear a hat if the sun is strong 2) open the windows For 2) I'd say don't open them if the temperature outside is higher than inside, and you are trying to stay cool. This will also depend on what sort of breeze you may have. Taller building might have a cool breeze? Tonight is the coolest night we will have in a while… so leave as many of them open as you can.. and when you wake up tomorrow morning… shut them all and close as many blinds and windows till probably Wednesday!! " You should leave a small gap to vent the hot air trapped between the window and the closed curtain when the sun is shining through it. Small enough gap to vent the hot air inside but not wide enough to let the hot air outside into your cool room. | |||
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"Another pro-tip. Sleep naked with legs spread apart and a fan pointing right at your crotch. Such a wonderful feeling." Would be for the window cleaner.. | |||
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"Have other people got a heatwave today? I'm still lying in bed, under the duvet " It's a sultry 24 here, not too bad.. | |||
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"Have other people got a heatwave today? I'm still lying in bed, under the duvet " It's comfortable to cool in my flat, but I've shut the outside out. I'll thank myself tomorrow | |||
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"In the day, wet flannel on the back of your neck. Feet in cold water. Night, sleep under a flat sheet with the fan on " I just read in a newspaper from a Dr that apparently we have all been doing it wrong - we need to apply a towel dipped in hot water to put round the back of our neck. That then will make us sweat and it will then cool. | |||
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"In the day, wet flannel on the back of your neck. Feet in cold water. Night, sleep under a flat sheet with the fan on I just read in a newspaper from a Dr that apparently we have all been doing it wrong - we need to apply a towel dipped in hot water to put round the back of our neck. That then will make us sweat and it will then cool. " that might be technically correct but I'd rather not marinate in my sweat if I can avoid it. | |||
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"I just read in a newspaper from a Dr that apparently we have all been doing it wrong - we need to apply a towel dipped in hot water to put round the back of our neck. That then will make us sweat and it will then cool. " Not all of us, warm to hot water is definitely best | |||
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"that might be technically correct but I'd rather not marinate in my sweat if I can avoid it." Actually the towel or other fabric does not make you sweat. What is does is draw excess heat from your body as it dries. So it acts like you're sweating but it doesn't cause sweating. | |||
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