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"I have two jobs ish lol i have what i call my proper job, thats a full time job and i ermm earn extra as well " Mmmmmm | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working??? I have a day off today - I'm almost lost with all the time to myself - it's strange." Yes we both work | |||
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"Yes, I work, although I think there being less than half a million jobs free, and over 2 and a half million unemployed a good excuse for a lot of people not working" I must say that I have never actually thought about how many jobs may be out there compared to how many jobless people there are. Interesting point | |||
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"Yes, I work, although I think there being less than half a million jobs free, and over 2 and a half million unemployed a good excuse for a lot of people not working I must say that I have never actually thought about how many jobs may be out there compared to how many jobless people there are. Interesting point " I just checked the stats and it's not that clear cut. Depending on how you classify 'jobs available' and someone able to work and not just 'not working' suggests you cant make a statement like that without defining your source data and the context of your statement. | |||
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"Yes, I work, although I think there being less than half a million jobs free, and over 2 and a half million unemployed a good excuse for a lot of people not working I must say that I have never actually thought about how many jobs may be out there compared to how many jobless people there are. Interesting point I just checked the stats and it's not that clear cut. Depending on how you classify 'jobs available' and someone able to work and not just 'not working' suggests you cant make a statement like that without defining your source data and the context of your statement. " The Reality Check blog has been looking into claims made by Conservative minister Maria Miller that there is "no shortage of jobs" in the United Kingdom, as job centres have more than 400,000 vacancies. The evidence so far has cast doubt on Miller's claims: According to the latest official figures released by the Office of National Statistics in January, Miller is correct to say the UK has around 400,000 jobs on offer. Between October and December, employers were looking for 463,000 new workers – though this is some 18,000 fewer than a year before. The issue for Miller's argument is that those same figures reveal that there are also a substantial number of people chasing those jobs. The official count of unemployed people – anyone who is actively looking for work and is available to start immediately if hired – is 2.68 million. That is around six people for every vacancy in the country. Even using the smaller group of just those currently claiming jobseeker's allowance, there are four jobseekers for each place. One million people aged 16-24 are currently looking for work. Whichever measure is used, there are nowhere near enough vacancies to enable everyone currently looking for a job to find one "Guardian Feb 2012" | |||
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"Currently unemployed but actively trying to find some form of employ ...... I am doing voluntary Work in care homes and driving peolpe to and from hospital , in my Own transport to try and put something back, also work as a volunteer in a charity shop ... It's hard out there trying to get anything not just what I specialise in . Your either over qualified or they wonder why your going for such a position. " Please feel free to give your opinion on my circumstances, don't give a shit anymore lol | |||
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"The whole top and bottom is yes there is some people in our country who dont want to work but id say theres alot on the dole who do want to work i feel sorry for them. " I fall into the 2nd category. I genuinely hate being unemployed and 'sponging' off the government as I can honestly say I don't think I've 'earned' those benefits yet as, at 24, I haven't put enough in. An injury has resulted in me not being about to do the job I've always done, but I've so far been on 2 courses to help me get back into work/learn new skills, I'm starting another in January, and in the mean time I'm looking at others whilst also looking for work and applying for anything suitable. Thank God I can still do my voluntary work (I've done it for nearly 10 years now) as it keeps me sane. I've also been asked to volunteer somewhere else which is much better than sitting at home, getting more and more depressed all day. I will be so happy when I finally land myself a job | |||
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"Yes, I work, although I think there being less than half a million jobs free, and over 2 and a half million unemployed a good excuse for a lot of people not working I must say that I have never actually thought about how many jobs may be out there compared to how many jobless people there are. Interesting point " Me neither til I worked as a stats surveyor for two yr with Manpower, boring but gives a good outline of unemployment, hidden unemployment etc | |||
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"I'm only recently unemployed and I fucking hate it, I don't know WHY anybody would choose this as a lifestyle! I'm bored out of my wits, stressed and losing the will to live. I've cleaned the house top to bottom EVERY day this week and it was soul-destroying having to give in and open a claim for Jobseekers allowance. With Christmas coming up, I thought I would be able to get a job like THAT *Clicks fingers*, but despite applying for around 10-15+ jobs a day, I still haven't heard anything. - Amy. x" I feel for you. My daughter was made redundant a few months ago - she's 25 and has worked full time since leaving college. She's been unable to find another job despite applying for absolutely anything and everything ... full time, part time, temporary, cleaning, shop jobs, you name it. But to no avail. She and her fiancé are now in financial dire straits - it's heartbreaking. Not everyone on JSA is a slacker or sponger. | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working??? I have a day off today - I'm almost lost with all the time to myself - it's strange." full time job plus kids moot enough time to myself | |||
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"I'm only recently unemployed and I fucking hate it, I don't know WHY anybody would choose this as a lifestyle! I'm bored out of my wits, stressed and losing the will to live. I've cleaned the house top to bottom EVERY day this week and it was soul-destroying having to give in and open a claim for Jobseekers allowance. With Christmas coming up, I thought I would be able to get a job like THAT *Clicks fingers*, but despite applying for around 10-15+ jobs a day, I still haven't heard anything. - Amy. x" Chin up amy, it's been 3 1/2 months for me things will change love xxxxx. Anybody got work in manchester Oldham ish. Can travel , used to be in middle management but anything right now is good, pm me please xx | |||
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"I work full time, but wonder if the dole queue may be more financially viable. Self respect has an element to play, but love my job. " Only if you earn less than £70 a week ... JSA ain't all that and a bag of chips! | |||
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"im a slacker " You're a full time mum aren't you? That's not slacking, that's bloody hard work with crap pay and ridiculous hours! | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working??? I have a day off today - I'm almost lost with all the time to myself - it's strange." Work full time, I always feel at a loss when I get day off too lol | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working???" Some folk are retired you know. | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working??? " speaking as a bloke who took a weeks leave to look after our 2 children then aged 7 and 4 ish, have to say i was glad to get back to work tbh.. gave me a reality check on what the OH did as well as her part time working.. 'slacker', not the best choice of terminology imho.. | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working??? I have a day off today - I'm almost lost with all the time to myself - it's strange." Run my own business so got no choice but to work or people don't get paid | |||
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"I'm only recently unemployed and I fucking hate it, I don't know WHY anybody would choose this as a lifestyle! I'm bored out of my wits, stressed and losing the will to live. I've cleaned the house top to bottom EVERY day this week and it was soul-destroying having to give in and open a claim for Jobseekers allowance. With Christmas coming up, I thought I would be able to get a job like THAT *Clicks fingers*, but despite applying for around 10-15+ jobs a day, I still haven't heard anything. - Amy. x" Keep your chin up...something will come along for you xx Mr B lost his job early this year and know how hard it can be. Thankfully he is now back to work and happy than he ever was in his last employment. | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working??? I have a day off today - I'm almost lost with all the time to myself - it's strange." Of course; how could you not - I'll never understand those who - for no reason - sit on benefit... | |||
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"Yes, I work, although I think there being less than half a million jobs free, and over 2 and a half million unemployed a good excuse for a lot of people not working I must say that I have never actually thought about how many jobs may be out there compared to how many jobless people there are. Interesting point I just checked the stats and it's not that clear cut. Depending on how you classify 'jobs available' and someone able to work and not just 'not working' suggests you cant make a statement like that without defining your source data and the context of your statement. " In that case can you define your source that labels everyone without a job a 'slacker'? | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working??? I have a day off today - I'm almost lost with all the time to myself - it's strange." Well another full timer here in gainful employment. I did smile at the slacker remark as it looks like they were hiding as not many hands up. The ones who put the effort in to try and find something I have full respect for and wish them luck. The rest well effort is the key word. | |||
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"Worked full time since a week after I left school " You took a whole week off? Lazy mare! | |||
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"Worked full time since a week after I left school You took a whole week off? Lazy mare!" I must be due another one soon !! | |||
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"I have a job. I have been in the unhappy position of not having a job. I know which I prefer, if only to avoid crappy daytime TV!" That is a trap I refuse to fall into. I just cannot bring myself to switch it on till the kids come home. Even then, I am in the kitchen cooking or ironing. | |||
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"I have a job. I have been in the unhappy position of not having a job. I know which I prefer, if only to avoid crappy daytime TV! That is a trap I refuse to fall into. I just cannot bring myself to switch it on till the kids come home. Even then, I am in the kitchen cooking or ironing." I can cope with homes under the hammer on the odd day off but otherwise it drives me actually doing chores! | |||
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"I have worked for 30 years and never claimed anything, ever. I am seriously under-employed in a paid capacity now and over-employed in my voluntary work. It's not sustainable but 30 years of tax and NI entitles me to nothing. So, I take what work I can get to pay the bills and get my work satisfaction from the unpaid stuff." There are a lot in the same boat but who wouldn't entertain taking on voluntary work so hats off to you for doing so. I do think you need a degree of satisfaction at times too. | |||
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"I have worked for 30 years and never claimed anything, ever. I am seriously under-employed in a paid capacity now and over-employed in my voluntary work. It's not sustainable but 30 years of tax and NI entitles me to nothing. So, I take what work I can get to pay the bills and get my work satisfaction from the unpaid stuff. There are a lot in the same boat but who wouldn't entertain taking on voluntary work so hats off to you for doing so. I do think you need a degree of satisfaction at times too. " Thank you. I have been doing voluntary work for nearly 30 years. If I had money I would still do it. | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working???" I love these kinds of questions lately. I left work with recurring depression in January only to find my thyroid no longer responds properly to my medicine, i have gastritis, a 2" hiatus hernia and barrett's oesophagus and am now on cancer watch for the rest of my life. Taking this to the Dept for Work & Pensions so I could buy myself some time to heal and see my counsellor, they refused and cheated me for half a year until I got my MP to get on them and then finally got what I had fought for in July when I was penniless and unemployed and unable to sign on to Jobseekers Allowance. £1,400 in the bank, I decided, out of pride, not to sign on while I looked for work especially because of the way the DWP treated me. I wouldn't be institutionalised by them ever again and fall into the "worthless scrounger that doesn't work for a living" category... To this day, I am refused a job because employers are actually paid by the DWP to employ signed on Jobseekers and I am not one of them because I am sick of living with that stigma. Learn Direct has refused me free training to get more of a chance of being employed as well. Wow, honesty does pay, doesn't it? I now have £150 in my account and not only do I have to go to the Jobcentre still to find the only jobs available every week, half of them are fake, the real ones don't give me the time of day and I don't even have the money to phone employers or send an SAE for a fucking reply. But not to get sidetracked, my ciggies pay more tax than you do so work a little harder why don't ya lol | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working??? I love these kinds of questions lately. I left work with recurring depression in January only to find my thyroid no longer responds properly to my medicine, i have gastritis, a 2" hiatus hernia and barrett's oesophagus and am now on cancer watch for the rest of my life. Taking this to the Dept for Work & Pensions so I could buy myself some time to heal and see my counsellor, they refused and cheated me for half a year until I got my MP to get on them and then finally got what I had fought for in July when I was penniless and unemployed and unable to sign on to Jobseekers Allowance. £1,400 in the bank, I decided, out of pride, not to sign on while I looked for work especially because of the way the DWP treated me. I wouldn't be institutionalised by them ever again and fall into the "worthless scrounger that doesn't work for a living" category... To this day, I am refused a job because employers are actually paid by the DWP to employ signed on Jobseekers and I am not one of them because I am sick of living with that stigma. Learn Direct has refused me free training to get more of a chance of being employed as well. Wow, honesty does pay, doesn't it? I now have £150 in my account and not only do I have to go to the Jobcentre still to find the only jobs available every week, half of them are fake, the real ones don't give me the time of day and I don't even have the money to phone employers or send an SAE for a fucking reply. But not to get sidetracked, my ciggies pay more tax than you do so work a little harder why don't ya lol" Very true about a LOT of the advertised jobs being fake. They are advertised by recruitment agencies as a method to gather your details, also the same job can be advertised by a dozen different agencies and they are all counted as separate jobs by the DWP. Don't beleive the hype. | |||
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"I'm curious - who here does their bit for UK plc or are you a slacker hiding behind some excuse for not working??? I have a day off today - I'm almost lost with all the time to myself - it's strange." As I'm 72 years old the answer is No I'm retired. Mind you I did work full time, away at sea for most of the time. I am never bored, I always find things that need doing around the house and sometimes I wonder how I found time to go to work. | |||
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"This thread has left me fuming. To all you smug people with jobs, good for you. I worked in London full time for over 20 years. I am now unemployed, NOT a slacker, and had my flat repossessed. I now live on £75 pw benefits plus I get my rent paid. I live in a former hotel full of alcoholics, junkies and people who have just left prison. I have mice in my room. And no, I am not making it up. I apply for anything and everything. Employed people just do not understand how bad things are. Yesterday I tried to apply for a job in Sainsbury. Only 22 hours a week but full time jobs are like gold dust now. I entered my postcode and it wouldn't let me apply as I live more than ten miles away (I was planning on catching a train). Most jobs expect you to have a car now, how can I run a car on benefits? When I applied for a job at Aldi the form stated that they would prefer to employ people who do not rely on public transport. Anybody who chooses to live on benefits MUST also be doing some sort of work to make it worthwhile. Or dealing drugs or is a burglar. No-one in their right mind would choose to be on the dole. £75 pw is JUST enough to manage on, but wait until you need a new pair of shoes or a new coat. Please think twice before calling people slackers." I've been there a few times and don't envy you, sorry to hear about all that. Keep your head up and when you get into a job, keep looking. The higher paying slacker jobs aren't advertised to slackers like us lol | |||
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"I don't think it's fair to label people that aren't working as slackers - admittedly there are loads of people who won't work but there are tons who are really trying to get a job - it's the work dodgers that take money away from those suffering real hardship - the system is as fault in my opinion. Z" Couldn't agree more, it's not those that are unemployed and wanting to work that are the drain on the coffers, nor is it the sick or disabled (they are just easy targets for the Eton Rifles), but it's the bottom feeders who set out to make not working their personal career choice, they are the problem..... | |||
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"Currently unemployed but actively trying to find some form of employ ...... I am doing voluntary Work in care homes and driving peolpe to and from hospital , in my Own transport to try and put something back, also work as a volunteer in a charity shop ... It's hard out there trying to get anything not just what I specialise in . Your either over qualified or they wonder why your going for such a position. " Was operations manager made redundant due to the economic climate been out of real work for 2 yrs someone said maybe you should lower your standards ffs I've applied for cleaners positions McDonald's everything hard pressed to get an inter_iew let alone a job, but tide myself over with temp work and delivering for local takeaway but would seriously love to get back into what I was trained to do, however middle management seems to have been hit very hard | |||
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"I have three jobbys, and I love them all " DISgUSTING!..but cute | |||
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