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"Crisis? What crisis? " Lol xx obviously got too much money | |||
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"So far, thankfully, we haven’t noticed too much Energy bill up £50 pm (we were paying way too much before it seems) fuel is the biggest one but working from home I don’t notice. We’re fortunate enough that can absorb a lot of the rises and plenty of sacrifices we could make if we need to. " Good to hear x | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time " 10 minute freeview on the playboy channel….apparently | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time " Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ?" They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour | |||
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"Oh and also it is also averaging at about £120 a month! And I’m £700 in credit as they insisted on my DD going up to £293 a month! So watch them. Dodgy gits. " You don't have to accept the DD, you should be able to lower it online. | |||
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"Oh and also it is also averaging at about £120 a month! And I’m £700 in credit as they insisted on my DD going up to £293 a month! So watch them. Dodgy gits. You don't have to accept the DD, you should be able to lower it online. " I know. I have done now. I’ve cancelled it and I’ll just pay monthly what I owe. I’ve always done direct debits though so it’s annoying. I argued until I was blue in the face on the phone about that amount too. | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour " Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it" It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot!" Ok x cheers | |||
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"Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time " • Were you perhaps charging ALL of your WiFi smart-enabled vibrators and kinky paraphernalia? | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot!" Look up the energy use of applicants to get an idea For example, standard fan is about 100w Most kettles are between 2-3kw (2000-3000w) You can quickly see what’s expensive to run | |||
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"Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time • Were you perhaps charging ALL of your WiFi smart-enabled vibrators and kinky paraphernalia?" . | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Look up the energy use of applicants to get an idea For example, standard fan is about 100w Most kettles are between 2-3kw (2000-3000w) You can quickly see what’s expensive to run " Honestly couldn’t believe the kettle! And I do use it an awful lot! | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Look up the energy use of applicants to get an idea For example, standard fan is about 100w Most kettles are between 2-3kw (2000-3000w) You can quickly see what’s expensive to run Honestly couldn’t believe the kettle! And I do use it an awful lot!" Only fill up what you need. So fill a mug with water, pour that in the kettle. Anything else is wasted energy Typically anything that heats is going to use a lot of energy. So washers, dryers, kettles, storage heaters. | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Look up the energy use of applicants to get an idea For example, standard fan is about 100w Most kettles are between 2-3kw (2000-3000w) You can quickly see what’s expensive to run Honestly couldn’t believe the kettle! And I do use it an awful lot!" All the women now looking at the energy consumption of mains powered dildos and toys lol | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Look up the energy use of applicants to get an idea For example, standard fan is about 100w Most kettles are between 2-3kw (2000-3000w) You can quickly see what’s expensive to run Honestly couldn’t believe the kettle! And I do use it an awful lot! All the women now looking at the energy consumption of mains powered dildos and toys lol" Haha 20 seconds max with my wand. that ain’t gonna cost much | |||
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" Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Ok x cheers " The only issue you may find is if you have separate gas and electric and the meters are too far apart. The gas for ours is round the back, while the electric is at the front and the engineer said they wouldn’t work sadly. | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Look up the energy use of applicants to get an idea For example, standard fan is about 100w Most kettles are between 2-3kw (2000-3000w) You can quickly see what’s expensive to run Honestly couldn’t believe the kettle! And I do use it an awful lot! All the women now looking at the energy consumption of mains powered dildos and toys lol Haha 20 seconds max with my wand. that ain’t gonna cost much " It will twenty times a day haha | |||
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" Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Ok x cheers The only issue you may find is if you have separate gas and electric and the meters are too far apart. The gas for ours is round the back, while the electric is at the front and the engineer said they wouldn’t work sadly. " Yeah this is just electric. I don’t have one for gas. That’s about £120 a month which isn’t as bad. | |||
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" Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Ok x cheers The only issue you may find is if you have separate gas and electric and the meters are too far apart. The gas for ours is round the back, while the electric is at the front and the engineer said they wouldn’t work sadly. " My two meters are in the same cubby hole under the stairs so hopefully ok | |||
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"Massive and it’s caused us to procrastinate on a fairly major decision. Hubby has always earned great money in senior management, at the cost of working 90 hour weeks and being away. We are finally in a position where he has resigned and will be pursuing a complete career change but starting at the bottom and earning around 1/3 of his original salary, and no company vehicle. I have got a second job to support but rising energy costs and our weekly shop going up have meant we will have to be extremely careful for the next few years. We are still extremely lucky, I can imagine that it’s hell for a lot of families x" Your quality of life should improve though x | |||
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" Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Ok x cheers The only issue you may find is if you have separate gas and electric and the meters are too far apart. The gas for ours is round the back, while the electric is at the front and the engineer said they wouldn’t work sadly. My two meters are in the same cubby hole under the stairs so hopefully ok" In return for the convenience of not having to bend down to occasionally read the meter, you have now given them the ability to turn off your supply remotely. They may wish to do this for a number of reasons including debt or planned selective power cuts this autumn and winter. Congratulations! | |||
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" Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Ok x cheers The only issue you may find is if you have separate gas and electric and the meters are too far apart. The gas for ours is round the back, while the electric is at the front and the engineer said they wouldn’t work sadly. My two meters are in the same cubby hole under the stairs so hopefully ok In return for the convenience of not having to bend down to occasionally read the meter, you have now given them the ability to turn off your supply remotely. They may wish to do this for a number of reasons including debt or planned selective power cuts this autumn and winter. Congratulations!" How’s that work? | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time " I've got a smart meter and got a little plug in thing to show how much I'm using at the time. Don't have an app though, sounds easier to keep an eye on. They keep trying to put my DD up, be nice to prove how much I'm actually using. Pxx | |||
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"So far, thankfully, we haven’t noticed too much Energy bill up £50 pm (we were paying way too much before it seems) fuel is the biggest one but working from home I don’t notice. We’re fortunate enough that can absorb a lot of the rises and plenty of sacrifices we could make if we need to. " One of us was promoted at work at the start of the price rises so we're in a similar position. We are watching our spending in certain areas and economising on some things but so far, we are fortunate. | |||
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"The price of a barrel of oil has been dropping for the last 2 weeks yet this hasn't been passed on to drivers yet, half the problem is greed by the big companies" They need to recoup the windfall tax somehow. Did nobody think that through? | |||
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" Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Ok x cheers The only issue you may find is if you have separate gas and electric and the meters are too far apart. The gas for ours is round the back, while the electric is at the front and the engineer said they wouldn’t work sadly. My two meters are in the same cubby hole under the stairs so hopefully ok In return for the convenience of not having to bend down to occasionally read the meter, you have now given them the ability to turn off your supply remotely. They may wish to do this for a number of reasons including debt or planned selective power cuts this autumn and winter. Congratulations!" I highly doubt that at all. There isn't a valve inside the gas meter, so won't me able to switch that off remotely and my smart electric meter isn't big enough to house a relay/breaker suitable of carrying enough current, so equally rubbish. But anyway, congrats on scaremongering | |||
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"Oh and also it is also averaging at about £120 a month! And I’m £700 in credit as they insisted on my DD going up to £293 a month! So watch them. Dodgy gits. You don't have to accept the DD, you should be able to lower it online. I know. I have done now. I’ve cancelled it and I’ll just pay monthly what I owe. I’ve always done direct debits though so it’s annoying. I argued until I was blue in the face on the phone about that amount too. " You'll lose the discount though? | |||
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" Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Ok x cheers The only issue you may find is if you have separate gas and electric and the meters are too far apart. The gas for ours is round the back, while the electric is at the front and the engineer said they wouldn’t work sadly. My two meters are in the same cubby hole under the stairs so hopefully ok In return for the convenience of not having to bend down to occasionally read the meter, you have now given them the ability to turn off your supply remotely. They may wish to do this for a number of reasons including debt or planned selective power cuts this autumn and winter. Congratulations! I highly doubt that at all. There isn't a valve inside the gas meter, so won't me able to switch that off remotely and my smart electric meter isn't big enough to house a relay/breaker suitable of carrying enough current, so equally rubbish. But anyway, congrats on scaremongering " Fair enough. I have heard from a number of different people that there is a facility to remotely isolate, so maybe I have been scaremongered. I will, however, research further. I don't trust the blighters as far as I can throw a switch. | |||
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"I highly doubt that at all. There isn't a valve inside the gas meter, so won't me able to switch that off remotely and my smart electric meter isn't big enough to house a relay/breaker suitable of carrying enough current, so equally rubbish. But anyway, congrats on scaremongering " so you've opened up smart meters to see what's inside or are you just guessing? | |||
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"Oh and also it is also averaging at about £120 a month! And I’m £700 in credit as they insisted on my DD going up to £293 a month! So watch them. Dodgy gits. You don't have to accept the DD, you should be able to lower it online. I know. I have done now. I’ve cancelled it and I’ll just pay monthly what I owe. I’ve always done direct debits though so it’s annoying. I argued until I was blue in the face on the phone about that amount too. " Nora, I feel your pain at those charges . Will it mean you pay more, by losing payment by direct debit discount? I've not read the thread yet, nor fully versed. | |||
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"Oh and also it is also averaging at about £120 a month! And I’m £700 in credit as they insisted on my DD going up to £293 a month! So watch them. Dodgy gits. You don't have to accept the DD, you should be able to lower it online. I know. I have done now. I’ve cancelled it and I’ll just pay monthly what I owe. I’ve always done direct debits though so it’s annoying. I argued until I was blue in the face on the phone about that amount too. " I had a big fight with Shell , the reckon I owe them over 3000 on two properties, neither I agreed for them to supply but the gov instructed them when Pure went bust. Anyway I refuse to setup a DD I offered them £25 per month and said if they wish to continue supplying me fine but that’s all I’m prepared to pay. When it gets close to court action they will settle for 500 or so | |||
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"Oh and also it is also averaging at about £120 a month! And I’m £700 in credit as they insisted on my DD going up to £293 a month! So watch them. Dodgy gits. You don't have to accept the DD, you should be able to lower it online. I know. I have done now. I’ve cancelled it and I’ll just pay monthly what I owe. I’ve always done direct debits though so it’s annoying. I argued until I was blue in the face on the phone about that amount too. Nora, I feel your pain at those charges . Will it mean you pay more, by losing payment by direct debit discount? I've not read the thread yet, nor fully versed. " Yes £4 per fuel, per month , per account. It’s sounds a lot , it’s certainly way more than you can make on interest , but it gives you a huge amount of leverage to negotiate so worth it | |||
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"Oh and also it is also averaging at about £120 a month! And I’m £700 in credit as they insisted on my DD going up to £293 a month! So watch them. Dodgy gits. You don't have to accept the DD, you should be able to lower it online. I know. I have done now. I’ve cancelled it and I’ll just pay monthly what I owe. I’ve always done direct debits though so it’s annoying. I argued until I was blue in the face on the phone about that amount too. Nora, I feel your pain at those charges . Will it mean you pay more, by losing payment by direct debit discount? I've not read the thread yet, nor fully versed. " No idea. But I’m not paying anything more anyway until my £700 has nearly run out which they already have. Then I’ll speak to them about a new direct debit. | |||
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"I’m a student so even before the crisis i was suffering but now it’s even worse - barely eating and when I do it’s nothing special because I can’t afford my luxuries anymore and stuff like that. Had to cut down on my takeaways which I know sounds like a good thing but I have…let’s just say problems so withdrawal is tough lol. I’m very lucky to not have any ‘proper’ bills to pay other than my phone, subscriptions etc, so I’m lucky in that sense. I really feel for the families that are struggling to heat their home, put food on the table etc. If I struggle as a single person; I’d dread to think how stressful it is as part of a family with children. " This really highlights the difference in my student experience of 45 odd years ago and now . | |||
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"Crisis? What crisis? " Is this a joke?? Money or not, spare a thought for the ones who are struggling!! We feel so sorry for them. | |||
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" Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Ok x cheers The only issue you may find is if you have separate gas and electric and the meters are too far apart. The gas for ours is round the back, while the electric is at the front and the engineer said they wouldn’t work sadly. My two meters are in the same cubby hole under the stairs so hopefully ok In return for the convenience of not having to bend down to occasionally read the meter, you have now given them the ability to turn off your supply remotely. They may wish to do this for a number of reasons including debt or planned selective power cuts this autumn and winter. Congratulations! I highly doubt that at all. There isn't a valve inside the gas meter, so won't me able to switch that off remotely and my smart electric meter isn't big enough to house a relay/breaker suitable of carrying enough current, so equally rubbish. But anyway, congrats on scaremongering Fair enough. I have heard from a number of different people that there is a facility to remotely isolate, so maybe I have been scaremongered. I will, however, research further. I don't trust the blighters as far as I can throw a switch. " In a previous career I was an electronic technician and I can confirm that there is absolutely no way that a smart meter would be able to actually cut off your supply. The switchgear or relay required would be far too large to fit in the plastic housing. Your gas smart meter would have to be even bigger, as the automatically actuated valve would have to be at least the same size bore as your supply pipe, would have to be a globe type valve to ensure full isolation (more bulky again) and would also need a large electrical solenoid to actually operate it. You’ve absolutely been scaremongered by bullshit conspiracy theories | |||
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"Oh and also it is also averaging at about £120 a month! And I’m £700 in credit as they insisted on my DD going up to £293 a month! So watch them. Dodgy gits. You don't have to accept the DD, you should be able to lower it online. I know. I have done now. I’ve cancelled it and I’ll just pay monthly what I owe. I’ve always done direct debits though so it’s annoying. I argued until I was blue in the face on the phone about that amount too. Nora, I feel your pain at those charges . Will it mean you pay more, by losing payment by direct debit discount? I've not read the thread yet, nor fully versed. No idea. But I’m not paying anything more anyway until my £700 has nearly run out which they already have. Then I’ll speak to them about a new direct debit. " I don't blame you 1 bit! | |||
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"I highly doubt that at all. There isn't a valve inside the gas meter, so won't me able to switch that off remotely and my smart electric meter isn't big enough to house a relay/breaker suitable of carrying enough current, so equally rubbish. But anyway, congrats on scaremongering so you've opened up smart meters to see what's inside or are you just guessing? " I don't need to. I know the size of the valves/actuators and breakers that would be needed, they won't fit inside a smart meter of the size I have seen. It's physics | |||
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"I am really confused how they work the dd. I spent around £90pm last year (I am on fixed plan and on a £140 dd so I built up some surplus and reduced the dd to £45 a couple of months ago). By my calculations and an average of 53% increase last April on the £90pm spent I had last year they should put my dd at about £140 when my fixed plan finishes but they are asking for £350pm. How can that be right? I know there will be another 40% increase in October but my new plan starts in August" They’re basically using DD customers as a source of ready cash. Say you’re using £100 worth of energy a month… they set your DD at £200 a month but give you the “if you don’t use it you’ll just be in credit” line… they now have more of your money in their accounts, that they don’t legitimately need to pay for your energy, which means 2 things… 1. They’re able to use that money for financial trading/earning interest etc. while you can’t. 2. Their balance sheet looks better on quarterly returns, therefore giving a better share value, which means more profit for executives | |||
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"Were looking to get off the smart meter, we were paying 10 pounds a day at one point ( during the winter) and our supplier is slimy. Paying 3-4 a day as it stands and after asking, I quote.. 'nothing could ever be wrong with it, its impossible" From my experience always steer well clear from smart meters." Also, the sneaky bastards can use smart meters to put you on a pre-payment tariff if they decide that you are in arrears. Which might be fair enough, if they didn't calculate bills wrong so often. Another reason to swerve them. | |||
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"As a single and living alone i been struggling for the last two years. I work full time 12h/ 4 shifts a week but for last two years i been working almost every week 6 days! House rent , electricity, gas, council tax, water, dvl,car insurance, petrol ,food ,phone,medical treatments, medical prescriptions, all this bills takes almost my wages away! Is not been easy at all ,as my life have been essential work to home and home to work and when i have day off i just sleep because i'm so exausted and i feel i have no life! Few weeks ago i have a major breakdown, after i arrived home from work , i stayed at home for almost 5 days, without coming out of my bed, i cried so much as i just felt i reached my limit point like never before fiscally and mentally, and with the reality that ,i'm on my own in so dificult times, with no one that i can really rely! For more controversial that may can sounds, i reduced my contract hours at work and choosed a new rota. I toke this decision as i realised, how important is to have rest , having my own free time to do things that i love and to have friends . I know i will be struggling alot but if i'm going to strugle, i don't want to feel like a presionner of this times and give away my freedom and happiness and enjoy life. We all know the coming times don't look good to anyone, millions of people all over the country will be struggling, may as never before, and for more cruel and dramatic this may sound is going to take many lifes away, that's the painful realty, that we will be looking at . To all struggling remember to have time to yourself, if you feel that your are working horrendous hours at work and is break you down , please stop, as that is a sign showing it doesn't worth. Rethink in new strategies as there's always a solution " Hope you're feeling better now. xx | |||
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"As a single and living alone i been struggling for the last two years. I work full time 12h/ 4 shifts a week but for last two years i been working almost every week 6 days! House rent , electricity, gas, council tax, water, dvl,car insurance, petrol ,food ,phone,medical treatments, medical prescriptions, all this bills takes almost my wages away! Is not been easy at all ,as my life have been essential work to home and home to work and when i have day off i just sleep because i'm so exausted and i feel i have no life! Few weeks ago i have a major breakdown, after i arrived home from work , i stayed at home for almost 5 days, without coming out of my bed, i cried so much as i just felt i reached my limit point like never before fiscally and mentally, and with the reality that ,i'm on my own in so dificult times, with no one that i can really rely! For more controversial that may can sounds, i reduced my contract hours at work and choosed a new rota. I toke this decision as i realised, how important is to have rest , having my own free time to do things that i love and to have friends . I know i will be struggling alot but if i'm going to strugle, i don't want to feel like a presionner of this times and give away my freedom and happiness and enjoy life. We all know the coming times don't look good to anyone, millions of people all over the country will be struggling, may as never before, and for more cruel and dramatic this may sound is going to take many lifes away, that's the painful realty, that we will be looking at . To all struggling remember to have time to yourself, if you feel that your are working horrendous hours at work and is break you down , please stop, as that is a sign showing it doesn't worth. Rethink in new strategies as there's always a solution Hope you're feeling better now. xx" I do feel much better , reenergized again | |||
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"I downsized my car, and I switch off lights, appliances not being used. More by luck than judgement I am on a fixed tariff for both gas and electric for another year. £120 combined. I won't have a smart meter as I believe if you change suppliers it may not be compatible?" Compatible with all suppliers. They’re not supplier specific | |||
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"I downsized my car, and I switch off lights, appliances not being used. More by luck than judgement I am on a fixed tariff for both gas and electric for another year. £120 combined. I won't have a smart meter as I believe if you change suppliers it may not be compatible? Compatible with all suppliers. They’re not supplier specific " Nope. Not true. Some are, some aren't. | |||
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"I downsized my car, and I switch off lights, appliances not being used. More by luck than judgement I am on a fixed tariff for both gas and electric for another year. £120 combined. I won't have a smart meter as I believe if you change suppliers it may not be compatible? Compatible with all suppliers. They’re not supplier specific Nope. Not true. Some are, some aren't." The meter itself has to be compatible by law, what isn’t always is the display unit you have on your mantle piece | |||
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"I downsized my car, and I switch off lights, appliances not being used. More by luck than judgement I am on a fixed tariff for both gas and electric for another year. £120 combined. I won't have a smart meter as I believe if you change suppliers it may not be compatible? Compatible with all suppliers. They’re not supplier specific Nope. Not true. Some are, some aren't. The meter itself has to be compatible by law, what isn’t always is the display unit you have on your mantle piece " So presumably all display units are compatible with a standard meter? I wouldn't mind one in principle, I just don't want to swap every time I change supplier if 'more installation' is involved. | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Look up the energy use of applicants to get an idea For example, standard fan is about 100w Most kettles are between 2-3kw (2000-3000w) You can quickly see what’s expensive to run Honestly couldn’t believe the kettle! And I do use it an awful lot!" H. has the kettle on constantly. I make her a cuppa with just enough eater then immediately fill the kettle with enough for the next cup. That way, the water is still warm and doesn't take half the time or energy to boil. | |||
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"I highly doubt that at all. There isn't a valve inside the gas meter, so won't me able to switch that off remotely and my smart electric meter isn't big enough to house a relay/breaker suitable of carrying enough current, so equally rubbish. But anyway, congrats on scaremongering so you've opened up smart meters to see what's inside or are you just guessing? I don't need to. I know the size of the valves/actuators and breakers that would be needed, they won't fit inside a smart meter of the size I have seen. It's physics " Smart meters absolutely do have the facility to be disconnected (and reconnected) remotely. It's my job to analyse when there's an issue and there's a customer off supply and remotely fix it. Our team works about 140 cases daily and those are just the ones that need technical intervention, so doesn't even include the ones that our customer service advisors resolve. A smart meter can be changed remotely into pay as you go mode so does have the valve/breaker for when the consumer's credit runs out on their meter their supply goes off. That being said, there's no reason a supplier would want to disconnect the supply as was originally suggested. If there was too much energy being consumed which the grid couldn't handle the supply would be disconnected by the DNO rather than individuals with Smart meters only. Even customers in debt we would just change the meter mode over to pay as you go so they would have to top up to maintain their supply, rather than us disconnect. Though I have seen many, many cases where this has been done in error, sometimes it's a user error, sometimes a system error. | |||
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"No longer visiting swingers clubs. Dates at a coffee place rather than expensive dinners and home cooking more. Not using the car as much" I can identify with these things. I used to attend club's much more regularly than I do now since the price of fuel increased. My nearest club is a 45 minutes drive away. Couple that with parking if no on street spots are available, entrance fees and drinks, it's not a cheap night out. I've also been doing more home cooking, and rarely eat out or get takeaways nowadays. It's shocking how much fuel has gone up. I used to be able to fill my tank for £50 now that only fills up just over half a tank! Worst is, wages never go up! | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time " Sometime ago a friend of mine invested in a a one cup kettle maker. It only dispenses 1 cup of boiling water at a time. I am really bad at keep heating the kettle back up. I need to be more conscience about that. Best thing to do Nora is take the fuses out after you go to bed. My mom used to take the phone to work with her. I have 3 sisters. You can imagine how much the phone bill would've been with 4 teenagers all using it. Money was tight and my mom was careful with it | |||
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"It's car insurance renewal time. My current supplier has hiked the premium by 50% of last year's price. I offered them the chance of matching several quotes (all less than I paid last year) and they wouldn't budge. Result: They have lost a long standing customer. It was obviously a try on, as clearly a number of other companies were competitive and able to offer last year's price or lower. Hey, everyone else is doubling prices, so why shouldn't we? My advice is dig your heels in and make it clear that you don't intend to join the inflationary spiral. Sadly, I hear a lot of people declaring how they have saved so much during a couple of years being locked down that they are easily coping. Word like that gets around the supply chain! " "1 days before renewal is the best time to catch the lowest price. Haggle on the phone as well, as they can reduce their premium or excess, if you ask nicely. MSE to the rescue again. | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time " Get rid of that smart meter, that's what's putting up your electricity. I'll never get one x | |||
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"Uk inflation 9% Worse in much of Europe Estonia 20.1% Lithuania 18.5% Latvia 16.8% Czechia 15.2% Bulgaria 13.4% Poland 12.8% Romania 12.4% Slovakia 11.8% Hungary 10.8% Croatia 10.7% Greece 10.5% Netherlands 10.2% Belgium 9.9% Luxembourg 9.1% Cyprus 8.8% Germany 8.7% Slovenia 8%" Wow, that changes my perspective on things somewhat. | |||
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"I can’t get the other horse I want, which I suppose isn’t really struggling is it? " That's just too sad. | |||
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"I can’t get the other horse I want, which I suppose isn’t really struggling is it? That's just too sad." He’s a beaut, a youngster too, built for hacking, but I can’t afford the additional vet bills/farrier | |||
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"I can’t get the other horse I want, which I suppose isn’t really struggling is it? That's just too sad. He’s a beaut, a youngster too, built for hacking, but I can’t afford the additional vet bills/farrier " Forgo the shoes and feed him salad cream sandwiches by candle light. It'll be fine. | |||
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"I can’t get the other horse I want, which I suppose isn’t really struggling is it? That's just too sad. He’s a beaut, a youngster too, built for hacking, but I can’t afford the additional vet bills/farrier Forgo the shoes and feed him salad cream sandwiches by candle light. It'll be fine." I shall buy dear Aeolus when things get better, patience is the key. | |||
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"Really recommend checking out Money Buddies. Check what you’re entitled to, even if you’re working two jobs. Also recommend turn2us and input your post code, sex and age, to see what grants may be available to you or your family members. Ask your GP about social prescribing and speak to a local organisation who can let you know if there are any schemes in your area such as free supermarket vouchers, free SIM cards with free data and calls for 6 months, to help reduce some of your current bills. I really feel for people on benefits and I also really feel for everyone working to the max who feel guilty for treating themselves. It’s not right. X" | |||
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"Uk inflation 9% Worse in much of Europe Estonia 20.1% Lithuania 18.5% Latvia 16.8% Czechia 15.2% Bulgaria 13.4% Poland 12.8% Romania 12.4% Slovakia 11.8% Hungary 10.8% Croatia 10.7% Greece 10.5% Netherlands 10.2% Belgium 9.9% Luxembourg 9.1% Cyprus 8.8% Germany 8.7% Slovenia 8% Wow, that changes my perspective on things somewhat. " Portugal is the only country in Europe at this moment with lowest inflaction 5.8% provision for this year | |||
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"I highly doubt that at all. There isn't a valve inside the gas meter, so won't me able to switch that off remotely and my smart electric meter isn't big enough to house a relay/breaker suitable of carrying enough current, so equally rubbish. But anyway, congrats on scaremongering so you've opened up smart meters to see what's inside or are you just guessing? I don't need to. I know the size of the valves/actuators and breakers that would be needed, they won't fit inside a smart meter of the size I have seen. It's physics " you're talking unsubstantiated nonsense in that case. | |||
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"Has the cost of living gone up in other countries? Or just ours? " i'm been working ongoing in spain rolling out their solar network infrastructure. aside from petrol/diesel, the prices have risen nowhere near as much as they have in the UK. the UK government appears to be intent on stiffing us for some reason or other. | |||
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"In a previous career I was an electronic technician and I can confirm that there is absolutely no way that a smart meter would be able to actually cut off your supply. The switchgear or relay required would be far too large to fit in the plastic housing. Your gas smart meter would have to be even bigger, as the automatically actuated valve would have to be at least the same size bore as your supply pipe, would have to be a globe type valve to ensure full isolation (more bulky again) and would also need a large electrical solenoid to actually operate it. You’ve absolutely been scaremongered by bullshit conspiracy theories " if what you have written contained even the slightest modicum of fact then pre-payment meters would be a figment of our collective imaginations to be fair. | |||
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"We dont have a cost of living crisis, we have a cost of greed crisis Number of UK billionaires up by more than 500% in the last decade, 180 people hoarding over £700b in wealth " How many of those are paying UK tax 75,000 people pay HMRC £30,000 a year for the non dom scheme to avoid paying tax on assets and income from overseas Chancellors wife is one of them, using non dom for 8 years to avoid paying tax on £12M a year received from dividends. While her husband rocks up for a staged bbc energy crisis photo shoot in a borrowed KIA Rio while he has four luxury cars on his drive. | |||
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"I highly doubt that at all. There isn't a valve inside the gas meter, so won't me able to switch that off remotely and my smart electric meter isn't big enough to house a relay/breaker suitable of carrying enough current, so equally rubbish. But anyway, congrats on scaremongering so you've opened up smart meters to see what's inside or are you just guessing? I don't need to. I know the size of the valves/actuators and breakers that would be needed, they won't fit inside a smart meter of the size I have seen. It's physics you're talking unsubstantiated nonsense in that case. " Nobody is asking them to put the switch gear in the meter enclosure. just wait for the smart fuse box to come along once they've got you all on smart meters which can communicate with them. They have had remote switching for night storage heaters for decades. | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Keeping you busy !! Do you recommend getting a smart meter then ? They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ok we are being offered one so I’ll do it It’s worth it. Does make you realise how much you’re using. Oven is quite a lot. Fans in the bedroom aren’t as bad as I thought they would be. Tumble dryer is a lot! Look up the energy use of applicants to get an idea For example, standard fan is about 100w Most kettles are between 2-3kw (2000-3000w) You can quickly see what’s expensive to run Honestly couldn’t believe the kettle! And I do use it an awful lot!" Boil the kettle, make your cuppa. Pour the rest of the boiling water into a thermos. Ready for the next cuppa, not need to boil the kettle again gor a while. Winston | |||
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" They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ask yourselves why would the supplier want to help you use less electricity other than so they can produce less while putting up the price to compensate for your reduced consumption?" It’s not actually a supplier led initiative. It’s a government led thing and the suppliers have been given targets for these installations that they are supposed to meet. | |||
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" They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ask yourselves why would the supplier want to help you use less electricity other than so they can produce less while putting up the price to compensate for your reduced consumption?" Exactly right - the extra data that they gather is just used to protect their profits. See, for instance, the hike in standing charges for energy. | |||
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" They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ask yourselves why would the supplier want to help you use less electricity other than so they can produce less while putting up the price to compensate for your reduced consumption? It’s not actually a supplier led initiative. It’s a government led thing and the suppliers have been given targets for these installations that they are supposed to meet. " Oops! I completely forgot that nobody in the government has any vested interest in making money. | |||
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" They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ask yourselves why would the supplier want to help you use less electricity other than so they can produce less while putting up the price to compensate for your reduced consumption? It’s not actually a supplier led initiative. It’s a government led thing and the suppliers have been given targets for these installations that they are supposed to meet. Oops! I completely forgot that nobody in the government has any vested interest in making money." Yes, it's not like big business ever influences government policy! | |||
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" They offered it free and just came in and fitted it. It’s handy as you can see on the app exactly how much you’re using each half hour Ask yourselves why would the supplier want to help you use less electricity other than so they can produce less while putting up the price to compensate for your reduced consumption? It’s not actually a supplier led initiative. It’s a government led thing and the suppliers have been given targets for these installations that they are supposed to meet. Oops! I completely forgot that nobody in the government has any vested interest in making money." I’m sure there are many in positions of influence who have vested interests. I was simply pointing out where the initiative came from, individuals can make what they will of that. | |||
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"Nobody is asking them to put the switch gear in the meter enclosure" google Magnetic latching Relays, full bridge circuits, motor control driver IC's.... basically you were correct in what you first wrote. the guys who attempted to correct you were wholly wrong. | |||
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"Crisis? What crisis? " We are loaded. More than most people dream of. But your comment?? Arsehole comment. We never forget where we came from, shame for the ones that do!! | |||
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"Nobody is asking them to put the switch gear in the meter enclosure google Magnetic latching Relays, full bridge circuits, motor control driver IC's.... basically you were correct in what you first wrote. the guys who attempted to correct you were wholly wrong." I am also assuming that, in this day and age, the switching doesn't have to be mechanical at all but may still involve some beefy devices. | |||
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"My electric has gone from £24 a month to £55 gas £24 to £50 Fuel is ridiculous, £90 to fill up my A1 from empty yesterday. Was £45 when bought it in 2019! Totally struggling as live on my own so one income. Have 3 part time jobs and one full time in a bid to keep my head above water yet no idea how long until I burn out Just makes me angry ?? " I completely understand. It’s a kick in the teeth when it is all companies putting prices up, not just energy providers but landlords, car insurance, too. It feels like everyone is just demanding our money. I don’t see why I should have to house share just to afford to live! I value my independence x | |||
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"Looking like it won't be long before I have the Internet turned off to save some money, not sure how that'll work though coz I'm locked into a contract. Stopped buying actual food and get 2 loaves of bread a week and just have toast. Gonna have to ask for extra shifts so I do more doubles. 30-45 hr working week isn't enough to run a home on on a single wage and actually eat. I get a monthly bus pass but with the bus companies running on 50% staffing levels my bus has become so unreliable sometimes it doesn't even run (but doesn't tell you, according to the app it's on its way) and I end up forking out for a taxi or being late (and I leave with plenty of time for delays or the odd bus not turning up) " This might sound like a stupid suggestion and I'm sure it's something you have thought of but it's coming a good place. Places in the hospitality industry are screaming out for people, Is it possible to get a job closer to home that you could walk to? | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time " Ha ha I’ve stopped boiling the kettle several times before I make a drink and the oven is off completely. I don’t need it for just the clock! Only switch it on when I’m cooking and the lounge tv is off at the plug if not being used | |||
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"my already expensive wheat and lactose free foods have increased" Same for me, they already were very expensive too KM | |||
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"we're with Virgin Media atm and its extortionate! " They lower your price when you call and select the option for leaving them. I get about £10 off a month every time KM | |||
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"It's car insurance renewal time. My current supplier has hiked the premium by 50% of last year's price. I offered them the chance of matching several quotes (all less than I paid last year) and they wouldn't budge. Result: They have lost a long standing customer. It was obviously a try on, as clearly a number of other companies were competitive and able to offer last year's price or lower. Hey, everyone else is doubling prices, so why shouldn't we? My advice is dig your heels in and make it clear that you don't intend to join the inflationary spiral. Sadly, I hear a lot of people declaring how they have saved so much during a couple of years being locked down that they are easily coping. Word like that gets around the supply chain! "1 days before renewal is the best time to catch the lowest price. Haggle on the phone as well, as they can reduce their premium or excess, if you ask nicely. MSE to the rescue again." 21 days: typo! | |||
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"my already expensive wheat and lactose free foods have increased Same for me, they already were very expensive too KM" Yep, noticed this too. My local supermarket has stopped selling usual vegan butter which was 90p for 500gm. Now I have to bye lactose free for £1.85 for 250gms. Im not impressed one bit | |||
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"we're with Virgin Media atm and its extortionate! They lower your price when you call and select the option for leaving them. I get about £10 off a month every time KM" Tried that, they told us leave! | |||
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"I got one of those smart meter things as I refuse to believe my direct debit should be £300 a month just for electric! Boiling the kettle is ridiculous amounts of electric. I now don’t fill it for one cuppa and have stopped boiling it about 20 times before I actually get around to making the drink! I’m on the app all the time now though watching when it goes up . I’ve turned into a nightmare. Right who was up at 2:30am and why did the electric go up so high at that time Ha ha I’ve stopped boiling the kettle several times before I make a drink and the oven is off completely. I don’t need it for just the clock! Only switch it on when I’m cooking and the lounge tv is off at the plug if not being used " We were told many years ago by the fire brigade to switch everything off at the wall when not in use. We are low energy users but the price increase has hit us. Luckily my uncle works for Virgin so I get a good deal (we really only need internet) but I wouldn’t hesitate to leave them for a free view service. It gets my goat that it’s cheaper to have a package with a landline. We have unplugged the landline & only use our mobiles - I get a 20% discount with EE via work. J x | |||
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"we're with Virgin Media atm and its extortionate! They lower your price when you call and select the option for leaving them. I get about £10 off a month every time KM Tried that, they told us leave!" They told me to leave to when I tried yet all these other people get discounts. | |||
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"we're with Virgin Media atm and its extortionate! They lower your price when you call and select the option for leaving them. I get about £10 off a month every time KM Tried that, they told us leave! They told me to leave to when I tried yet all these other people get discounts. " You actually need to be put through to the Cancellation department. I will add it wont-work if you are still in contract. | |||
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"we're with Virgin Media atm and its extortionate! They lower your price when you call and select the option for leaving them. I get about £10 off a month every time KM Tried that, they told us leave! They told me to leave to when I tried yet all these other people get discounts. " We got more that half off ours. I told them I had seen a deal they currently had online and I wanted that one otherwise I would leave. The guy told me to leave so I said fine put me through to cancellation, The man I spoke to in cancellation was amazing and my bill was cut in half. | |||
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"we're with Virgin Media atm and its extortionate! They lower your price when you call and select the option for leaving them. I get about £10 off a month every time KM Tried that, they told us leave! They told me to leave to when I tried yet all these other people get discounts. We got more that half off ours. I told them I had seen a deal they currently had online and I wanted that one otherwise I would leave. The guy told me to leave so I said fine put me through to cancellation, The man I spoke to in cancellation was amazing and my bill was cut in half. " Just having to listen to that gosh awful music when they put you on hold is enough to never return to virgin media | |||
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"we're with Virgin Media atm and its extortionate! They lower your price when you call and select the option for leaving them. I get about £10 off a month every time KM Tried that, they told us leave! They told me to leave to when I tried yet all these other people get discounts. We got more that half off ours. I told them I had seen a deal they currently had online and I wanted that one otherwise I would leave. The guy told me to leave so I said fine put me through to cancellation, The man I spoke to in cancellation was amazing and my bill was cut in half. Just having to listen to that gosh awful music when they put you on hold is enough to never return to virgin media" I probably should have said this was actually sky not Virgin. | |||
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"we're with Virgin Media atm and its extortionate! They lower your price when you call and select the option for leaving them. I get about £10 off a month every time KM Tried that, they told us leave! They told me to leave to when I tried yet all these other people get discounts. We got more that half off ours. I told them I had seen a deal they currently had online and I wanted that one otherwise I would leave. The guy told me to leave so I said fine put me through to cancellation, The man I spoke to in cancellation was amazing and my bill was cut in half. Just having to listen to that gosh awful music when they put you on hold is enough to never return to virgin media I probably should have said this was actually sky not Virgin. " Is there soundtrack any better? | |||
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"Now only buying the 3 finger KitKats " .. Well done . | |||
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"we're with Virgin Media atm and its extortionate! They lower your price when you call and select the option for leaving them. I get about £10 off a month every time KM Tried that, they told us leave! They told me to leave to when I tried yet all these other people get discounts. We got more that half off ours. I told them I had seen a deal they currently had online and I wanted that one otherwise I would leave. The guy told me to leave so I said fine put me through to cancellation, The man I spoke to in cancellation was amazing and my bill was cut in half. Just having to listen to that gosh awful music when they put you on hold is enough to never return to virgin media I probably should have said this was actually sky not Virgin. Is there soundtrack any better?" It's more tolerable and they answer the phone quicker. | |||
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