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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Tom is not against climate change but the global carbon footprint of the Glastony festival is probably more than my V8. And Great Thornburg goes on stage to lecture .

What's going on here guys...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Her name is Greta Thunberg. It's all over the news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wait until you see all the litter left behind on Monday, Tom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It must be time to raise some more taxes by now.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

I have a feeling Glastonbury would have gone ahead with or without her there.

I've no idea what she said, but maybe it will resonate with some of the millions there and help them think / change.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

I didn’t have miss thunberg down as a festival goer

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tom is not against climate change but the global carbon footprint of the Glastony festival is probably more than my V8. And Great Thornburg goes on stage to lecture .

What's going on here guys..."

Great Thornburg sounds like an English town

How did they get it on stage??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tom is not against climate change but the global carbon footprint of the Glastony festival is probably more than my V8. And Great Thornburg goes on stage to lecture .

What's going on here guys..."

Does Tom mean he is not against climate change 'activism', or he's not against climate change itself?!

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

I've just looked into the carbon footprint btw.

Glastonbury actually has a net positive impact on the climate by producing a carbon footprint of -596.25 tonnes of CO2e.

If Glastonbury wasn't on, the 200,000 attendees would have produced +17,260 tonnes of CO2e.

So Glastonbury is good for the environment (carbon footprint speaking)

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

HOW DARE YOU Tom?

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta"
shame on her why?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I've just looked into the carbon footprint btw.

Glastonbury actually has a net positive impact on the climate by producing a carbon footprint of -596.25 tonnes of CO2e.

If Glastonbury wasn't on, the 200,000 attendees would have produced +17,260 tonnes of CO2e.

So Glastonbury is good for the environment (carbon footprint speaking) "

Have a Glastonbury every weekend and the world is saved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta"

Does a carbon footprint matter when we are close to winter and struggling families can't heat thier

homes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta

Does a carbon footprint matter when we are close to winter and struggling families can't heat thier

homes?"

Great point

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta

Does a carbon footprint matter when we are close to winter and struggling families can't heat thier

homes?"

Agreed

Winter is coming...

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta"

Most festivals now, if tents are left and reusable re packed up and sent to homeless shelters or abroad for people who like in refugee camps or tent cities ect..

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta shame on her why?"

She's ruining my adulthood.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta

Most festivals now, if tents are left and reusable re packed up and sent to homeless shelters or abroad for people who like in refugee camps or tent cities ect.."

Does tents heat homes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden."

She needs a 2 by 4

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4 "

A what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4 "

Or a snorkel?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta

Most festivals now, if tents are left and reusable re packed up and sent to homeless shelters or abroad for people who like in refugee camps or tent cities ect.."

No.. they bin them...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tom is not against climate change but the global carbon footprint of the Glastony festival is probably more than my V8. And Great Thornburg goes on stage to lecture .

What's going on here guys..."

I'm not against climate change either. It's what the planet does. Now, carbon footprint is another thing. CO2 is NOT a driver of climate. Period.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta

Most festivals now, if tents are left and reusable re packed up and sent to homeless shelters or abroad for people who like in refugee camps or tent cities ect..

No.. they bin them..."

They only bin the broken ones. Any that are suitable for reuse are given to charities and shelters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4

A what?"


"It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4

Or a snorkel?"

The men will get it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4

A what?

It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4

Or a snorkel?

The men will get it. "
not all men I snickered at that statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4

A what?

It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4

Or a snorkel?

The men will get it. not all men I snickered at that statement "

You see how some people are totally engrossed in what they see on tv. Never thinking to find out for themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4

A what?

It must have taken her and her entourage a long time to walk there from Sweden.

She needs a 2 by 4

Or a snorkel?

The men will get it. not all men I snickered at that statement

You see how some people are totally engrossed in what they see on tv. Never thinking to find out for themselves. "
. Lol I know I in the states the epicenter of media biased.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?"

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache"

There are plenty already available. Why would you build one especially??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it would only hurry and warm up i look forward to the beach on my garden

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache"

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache

Agreed "

Er, just swap it not build an entirely new one? No said build a new car, that part was just made up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache"
true we have v8s it the thrill of the sounds.. electric cars are bland .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache true we have v8s it the thrill of the sounds.. electric cars are bland ."

The issue isn't really how exciting a car is but more a question of are we all willing to make sacrifices for the catastrophic effects that humans are having on the planets. All signs point to events that will be the end of humans as a species, but not before future generations have to try and survive the worst environmental and social conditions ever known. We're knowingly putting a match to it all, but fuck it....my V8 makes a nice noise!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache true we have v8s it the thrill of the sounds.. electric cars are bland .

The issue isn't really how exciting a car is but more a question of are we all willing to make sacrifices for the catastrophic effects that humans are having on the planets. All signs point to events that will be the end of humans as a species, but not before future generations have to try and survive the worst environmental and social conditions ever known. We're knowingly putting a match to it all, but fuck it....my V8 makes a nice noise!"

And Grita just keeps saying Blah Blah Blah

..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache true we have v8s it the thrill of the sounds.. electric cars are bland .

The issue isn't really how exciting a car is but more a question of are we all willing to make sacrifices for the catastrophic effects that humans are having on the planets. All signs point to events that will be the end of humans as a species, but not before future generations have to try and survive the worst environmental and social conditions ever known. We're knowingly putting a match to it all, but fuck it....my V8 makes a nice noise!

And Grita just keeps saying Blah Blah Blah

.."

I've not heard what she's said specifically at Glastonbury so I can't comment, but at least she's trying to implore people to make changes so that the human race doesn't die out? Is that not more important than your car?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Strange how Greta has never been to China to protest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange how Greta has never been to China to protest "

Just remind me who has been to China to protest anything?

Same logic as why you wouldn't go to Russia to protest against nuclear weapons....or anything else.

Also, believe it or not, you can protest against detrimental environmental practices in China, without having to actually *go* to China!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange how Greta has never been to China to protest

Just remind me who has been to China to protest anything?

Same logic as why you wouldn't go to Russia to protest against nuclear weapons....or anything else.

But yet china taking in Russian oil imports. Protesting does what again? Nothing...

Also, believe it or not, you can protest against detrimental environmental practices in China, without having to actually *go* to China!

"

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta

Most festivals now, if tents are left and reusable re packed up and sent to homeless shelters or abroad for people who like in refugee camps or tent cities ect..

Does tents heat homes?"

No. But does provide heat to those who sleep in them though.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La


"Glastonbury is a business machine these days and money in the kitty to clear up those abandoned tents.. if they made those tents out of recycling cardboard instead of nylon then we would be ok . .. the carbon footprint of all those travelling and putting it on..

Shame on you Greta

Most festivals now, if tents are left and reusable re packed up and sent to homeless shelters or abroad for people who like in refugee camps or tent cities ect..

No.. they bin them..."

No they don't.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

You have stolen my childhood..

Now you have stolen my adulthood..

Do I have a solution..

No

Well moan then with soundbites that people are bored with..

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache true we have v8s it the thrill of the sounds.. electric cars are bland .

The issue isn't really how exciting a car is but more a question of are we all willing to make sacrifices for the catastrophic effects that humans are having on the planets. All signs point to events that will be the end of humans as a species, but not before future generations have to try and survive the worst environmental and social conditions ever known. We're knowingly putting a match to it all, but fuck it....my V8 makes a nice noise!

And Grita just keeps saying Blah Blah Blah

..

I've not heard what she's said specifically at Glastonbury so I can't comment, but at least she's trying to implore people to make changes so that the human race doesn't die out? Is that not more important than your car?"

I don't have kids, so i've already got a significant environmental impact than someone who has...and way less than someone who has deemed it OK to have several. Until the huge growth in population in the last 50 years and their increasing need for 'stuff' is acknowledged as the main issue, i'll carry enjoying my cars, holidays etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache true we have v8s it the thrill of the sounds.. electric cars are bland .

The issue isn't really how exciting a car is but more a question of are we all willing to make sacrifices for the catastrophic effects that humans are having on the planets. All signs point to events that will be the end of humans as a species, but not before future generations have to try and survive the worst environmental and social conditions ever known. We're knowingly putting a match to it all, but fuck it....my V8 makes a nice noise!

And Grita just keeps saying Blah Blah Blah

..

I've not heard what she's said specifically at Glastonbury so I can't comment, but at least she's trying to implore people to make changes so that the human race doesn't die out? Is that not more important than your car?

I don't have kids, so i've already got a significant environmental impact than someone who has...and way less than someone who has deemed it OK to have several. Until the huge growth in population in the last 50 years and their increasing need for 'stuff' is acknowledged as the main issue, i'll carry enjoying my cars, holidays etc"

This a great example of the selfish attitude's that people have. I imagine you'd also drive past a road accident and not stop as you didn't cause it?!

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache true we have v8s it the thrill of the sounds.. electric cars are bland .

The issue isn't really how exciting a car is but more a question of are we all willing to make sacrifices for the catastrophic effects that humans are having on the planets. All signs point to events that will be the end of humans as a species, but not before future generations have to try and survive the worst environmental and social conditions ever known. We're knowingly putting a match to it all, but fuck it....my V8 makes a nice noise!

And Grita just keeps saying Blah Blah Blah

..

I've not heard what she's said specifically at Glastonbury so I can't comment, but at least she's trying to implore people to make changes so that the human race doesn't die out? Is that not more important than your car?

I don't have kids, so i've already got a significant environmental impact than someone who has...and way less than someone who has deemed it OK to have several. Until the huge growth in population in the last 50 years and their increasing need for 'stuff' is acknowledged as the main issue, i'll carry enjoying my cars, holidays etc

This a great example of the selfish attitude's that people have. I imagine you'd also drive past a road accident and not stop as you didn't cause it?!"

How is it any more selfish than churning out kids without the means to fully support them or the sustainable global resources? I choose my lifestyle, other people choose theirs.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Is greta suggesting people shouldn’t have children? What a horrid ideology if so.

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

She'll fly off anywhere if it means never doing any actual education.

At least if she does something in person then it is actually her unlike all her social media. That would then be her funded parents who have used their vulnerable offspring for their own agenda.

C

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is greta suggesting people shouldn’t have children? What a horrid ideology if so. "

Shame her parents didn’t consider not having children

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache true we have v8s it the thrill of the sounds.. electric cars are bland .

The issue isn't really how exciting a car is but more a question of are we all willing to make sacrifices for the catastrophic effects that humans are having on the planets. All signs point to events that will be the end of humans as a species, but not before future generations have to try and survive the worst environmental and social conditions ever known. We're knowingly putting a match to it all, but fuck it....my V8 makes a nice noise!

And Grita just keeps saying Blah Blah Blah

..

I've not heard what she's said specifically at Glastonbury so I can't comment, but at least she's trying to implore people to make changes so that the human race doesn't die out? Is that not more important than your car?

I don't have kids, so i've already got a significant environmental impact than someone who has...and way less than someone who has deemed it OK to have several. Until the huge growth in population in the last 50 years and their increasing need for 'stuff' is acknowledged as the main issue, i'll carry enjoying my cars, holidays etc

This a great example of the selfish attitude's that people have. I imagine you'd also drive past a road accident and not stop as you didn't cause it?!

How is it any more selfish than churning out kids without the means to fully support them or the sustainable global resources? I choose my lifestyle, other people choose theirs. "

Because you're implying that it's not your problem. Well, it is. It's everyone's problem. You can choose to make changes as an individual which I'm aware will have very little impact on a global scale, but that attitude of 'well I didn't cause this' is a huge problem if everyone thinks like that. As an individual your very existence is a drain on resources and so you can make choices that lessen that impact where possible. People are entitled to holidays and cars etc but there are small sacrifices that each of us can make if we're willing to. What you're telling me seems like you're just not willing to. Are your parents more culpable than you for having you?

Incidentally, I decided not to have any children also, and not through any lack of opportunity, but a concerted decision. The fact that yes, the massive existing overpopulation is a massive problem was a factor in that decision, as was the state of the world and the foreseeable decline of a world they would grow up in. This also ended my bloodline being the last male in the family.

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

God almighty, the sheer willful ignorance on display in this thread as though it's something to be proud of.

I suppose my only consolation should be the prospect of watching those climate change deniers currently looking forward to the extra sunbathing suddenly facing the reality of either running from bush fires every summer or dealing with not having a moderating gulf stream to stop them freezing every winter. A shame my kids will have to share their fate.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?

Running a well tuned classic will produce significantly less pollution than building a new electric car. Takes a lot of energy to make a car and break a car, so he might as well enjoy it before the killjoys finally make driving a total ball ache true we have v8s it the thrill of the sounds.. electric cars are bland .

The issue isn't really how exciting a car is but more a question of are we all willing to make sacrifices for the catastrophic effects that humans are having on the planets. All signs point to events that will be the end of humans as a species, but not before future generations have to try and survive the worst environmental and social conditions ever known. We're knowingly putting a match to it all, but fuck it....my V8 makes a nice noise!

And Grita just keeps saying Blah Blah Blah

..

I've not heard what she's said specifically at Glastonbury so I can't comment, but at least she's trying to implore people to make changes so that the human race doesn't die out? Is that not more important than your car?

I don't have kids, so i've already got a significant environmental impact than someone who has...and way less than someone who has deemed it OK to have several. Until the huge growth in population in the last 50 years and their increasing need for 'stuff' is acknowledged as the main issue, i'll carry enjoying my cars, holidays etc

This a great example of the selfish attitude's that people have. I imagine you'd also drive past a road accident and not stop as you didn't cause it?!

How is it any more selfish than churning out kids without the means to fully support them or the sustainable global resources? I choose my lifestyle, other people choose theirs.

Because you're implying that it's not your problem. Well, it is. It's everyone's problem. You can choose to make changes as an individual which I'm aware will have very little impact on a global scale, but that attitude of 'well I didn't cause this' is a huge problem if everyone thinks like that. As an individual your very existence is a drain on resources and so you can make choices that lessen that impact where possible. People are entitled to holidays and cars etc but there are small sacrifices that each of us can make if we're willing to. What you're telling me seems like you're just not willing to. Are your parents more culpable than you for having you?

Incidentally, I decided not to have any children also, and not through any lack of opportunity, but a concerted decision. The fact that yes, the massive existing overpopulation is a massive problem was a factor in that decision, as was the state of the world and the foreseeable decline of a world they would grow up in. This also ended my bloodline being the last male in the family."

Wow. That’s dedication.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

These so called eco friendly cars..

Where does the cobalt come from..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"These so called eco friendly cars..

Where does the cobalt come from..

"

Cobalt comes from mining it. But if you're actually implying that it's a limit resource you'd be correct, which is why most companies are switching to lithium iron sulphate.

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By *eeman1Man
over a year ago

Liverpool

In the 70’s they talked about climate change and how parts of Britain would disappear, it’ll be too hot, etc etc, same in 80’s, 90’s and so on. None of what they said would happen due to all this global warming has happened.

Rising sea levels; what about water displacement from ships, shipwrecks, the amount of rubbish dumped at sea, land reclamation etc.

Isnt it just nature whatever happens?

We’ve had ice ages and then the planet warmed up. Don’t think many cars and planes where about then. The planet was a warm climate then an ice age then warmed back up. Don’t we just go through stages?

Even so, there are too many countries like China who produce so much more emissions than us and they’ll never stop so what’s the point.

I’m not gonna be miserable and live a shit life, not drive what I want or go where I want due to being worried about the impact on the environment. I’ve got one life so I’ll enjoy it while I can. Rich people using jets, yachts etc don’t get as much grief as a normal person in his car.

Anyway I probably sound really selfish and horrible but by the time the world is supposedly gonna end I’ll be well gone and probably a lot of generations of people I know, so I don’t really care. I don’t want to live a life of misery so maybe in a hundred generations the planet may or may not still be liveable. Im sure it will be but we’ll never know.

Anyway rant over.

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

Fun fact: The numbers of studies disproving man-made climate change, far outnumber the few studies that say it us real (note I said man-made and not the planet's natural cycle). Another interesting factoid is that the number of 'climate scientists' who claim it to be real is also a huge drop in the ocean.

As has been mentioned, the climate change scare stories rear their head all the time. In order to bring things down it would be fruitful to pick on the corporations and countries which do all the pollution and leave cows alone.

C

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"In the 70’s they talked about climate change and how parts of Britain would disappear, it’ll be too hot, etc etc, same in 80’s, 90’s and so on. None of what they said would happen due to all this global warming has happened.

Rising sea levels; what about water displacement from ships, shipwrecks, the amount of rubbish dumped at sea, land reclamation etc.

Isnt it just nature whatever happens?

We’ve had ice ages and then the planet warmed up. Don’t think many cars and planes where about then. The planet was a warm climate then an ice age then warmed back up. Don’t we just go through stages?

Even so, there are too many countries like China who produce so much more emissions than us and they’ll never stop so what’s the point.

I’m not gonna be miserable and live a shit life, not drive what I want or go where I want due to being worried about the impact on the environment. I’ve got one life so I’ll enjoy it while I can. Rich people using jets, yachts etc don’t get as much grief as a normal person in his car.

Anyway I probably sound really selfish and horrible but by the time the world is supposedly gonna end I’ll be well gone and probably a lot of generations of people I know, so I don’t really care. I don’t want to live a life of misery so maybe in a hundred generations the planet may or may not still be liveable. Im sure it will be but we’ll never know.

Anyway rant over. "

I think the reason the predictions of disaster from the 70s never happened is because of that amazingly effective tool, (and not at all just a marketing tool) of all the companies and products and travel that is "carbon neutral" I mean the forests are just taking over entire continents and aren't shrinking after all. Marvellous I tell ya

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Look bigger. Most of the world's citizens and wildlife are being treated with utter contempt, by a small number of people with immense power, who resist the urgent necessity to make the essential changes needed to avert more excessively severe global heating. Glastonbury has an impact but miniscule compared to what is purposefully and yet avoidably, imposed on to our world

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Fun fact: The numbers of studies disproving man-made climate change, far outnumber the few studies that say it us real (note I said man-made and not the planet's natural cycle). Another interesting factoid is that the number of 'climate scientists' who claim it to be real is also a huge drop in the ocean.

As has been mentioned, the climate change scare stories rear their head all the time. In order to bring things down it would be fruitful to pick on the corporations and countries which do all the pollution and leave cows alone.

C"

Is your view, after all thought se tidbits, that man made global heating is voth real and potentially catastrophic for life on earth?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"In the 70’s they talked about climate change and how parts of Britain would disappear, it’ll be too hot, etc etc, same in 80’s, 90’s and so on. None of what they said would happen due to all this global warming has happened.

Rising sea levels; what about water displacement from ships, shipwrecks, the amount of rubbish dumped at sea, land reclamation etc.

Isnt it just nature whatever happens?

We’ve had ice ages and then the planet warmed up. Don’t think many cars and planes where about then. The planet was a warm climate then an ice age then warmed back up. Don’t we just go through stages?

Even so, there are too many countries like China who produce so much more emissions than us and they’ll never stop so what’s the point.

I’m not gonna be miserable and live a shit life, not drive what I want or go where I want due to being worried about the impact on the environment. I’ve got one life so I’ll enjoy it while I can. Rich people using jets, yachts etc don’t get as much grief as a normal person in his car.

Anyway I probably sound really selfish and horrible but by the time the world is supposedly gonna end I’ll be well gone and probably a lot of generations of people I know, so I don’t really care. I don’t want to live a life of misery so maybe in a hundred generations the planet may or may not still be liveable. Im sure it will be but we’ll never know.

Anyway rant over. "

You're aware that scientific understanding, research evidence etc has substantially improved in volume and accuracy, since the 1970s?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Who caused the last ice age?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who caused the last ice age?"

Wooly mammoths farting out greenhouse gases.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who caused the last ice age?"

I would say you can find out for yourself, it's all over the internet. But then I remember you think that early man built forts to defend himself against dinosaurs so what's the point in trying to explain it? It would be like taking a ferret to a Stephen Hawking lecture.

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By *lynJMan
over a year ago

Morden


"Who caused the last ice age?"

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cannot stand the little cretin. At least she is no longer a child and thus can have her credibility attacked like any normal adult.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Who caused the last ice age?

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher "

Exactly .. do we think the last ice age was caused by Fred flintstone in his car haha .. the earth has a natural cycle it distances itself from the sun and draws itself in .. people out there still believing that the Amazon rainforest accidentally burns itself daily .. if you believe that wow there's no helping you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who caused the last ice age?

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher

Exactly .. do we think the last ice age was caused by Fred flintstone in his car haha .. the earth has a natural cycle it distances itself from the sun and draws itself in .. people out there still believing that the Amazon rainforest accidentally burns itself daily .. if you believe that wow there's no helping you "

Of course not. Fred Flintstone's car was powered by his feet so obviously no environmental impact.

I am interested in your theory that the sun 'distances itself from the sun and draws itself in' and that 'people believe the Amazon rainforest burns itself daily'. Please explain further what you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cannot stand the little cretin. At least she is no longer a child and thus can have her credibility attacked like any normal adult."

To be fair I think she has been diagnosed with autism? Which probably explains a fair bit, a long side the 'famous parents'... Good for her being all 'that' for climate change... But I do think she's a bit 'daft/young', probs out of school so much as her parents are famous. And she doesn't actually know much about nowt... But bless

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By *lynJMan
over a year ago

Morden


"Who caused the last ice age?

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher

Exactly .. do we think the last ice age was caused by Fred flintstone in his car haha .. the earth has a natural cycle it distances itself from the sun and draws itself in .. people out there still believing that the Amazon rainforest accidentally burns itself daily .. if you believe that wow there's no helping you "

The rainforest burns for two reasons.

1. People illegally setting fire to it so they can graze more animals on the land.

2. Lightning strikes cause fires.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Who caused the last ice age?

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher

Exactly .. do we think the last ice age was caused by Fred flintstone in his car haha .. the earth has a natural cycle it distances itself from the sun and draws itself in .. people out there still believing that the Amazon rainforest accidentally burns itself daily .. if you believe that wow there's no helping you

Of course not. Fred Flintstone's car was powered by his feet so obviously no environmental impact.

I am interested in your theory that the sun 'distances itself from the sun and draws itself in' and that 'people believe the Amazon rainforest burns itself daily'. Please explain further what you mean?"

It was a joke was waiting for someone to point out the obvious about Fred ! It's an avenue you should only go down if your willing to except the truth about the way the world is run if you can't and prefer the lie then stick with that

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Who caused the last ice age?

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher

Exactly .. do we think the last ice age was caused by Fred flintstone in his car haha .. the earth has a natural cycle it distances itself from the sun and draws itself in .. people out there still believing that the Amazon rainforest accidentally burns itself daily .. if you believe that wow there's no helping you

The rainforest burns for two reasons.

1. People illegally setting fire to it so they can graze more animals on the land.

2. Lightning strikes cause fires."

Farming and palm oil .. government don't want to protect it because they are paid highly by illegal backhands to make space for farming

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By *lynJMan
over a year ago

Morden


"Who caused the last ice age?

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher

Exactly .. do we think the last ice age was caused by Fred flintstone in his car haha .. the earth has a natural cycle it distances itself from the sun and draws itself in .. people out there still believing that the Amazon rainforest accidentally burns itself daily .. if you believe that wow there's no helping you

Of course not. Fred Flintstone's car was powered by his feet so obviously no environmental impact.

I am interested in your theory that the sun 'distances itself from the sun and draws itself in' and that 'people believe the Amazon rainforest burns itself daily'. Please explain further what you mean?"

I think he means that the orbit of the Earth changes over time. Sometimes the distance from the sun is less than at other times helping to cause increases and decreases temperature.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Who caused the last ice age?

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher

Exactly .. do we think the last ice age was caused by Fred flintstone in his car haha .. the earth has a natural cycle it distances itself from the sun and draws itself in .. people out there still believing that the Amazon rainforest accidentally burns itself daily .. if you believe that wow there's no helping you

Of course not. Fred Flintstone's car was powered by his feet so obviously no environmental impact.

I am interested in your theory that the sun 'distances itself from the sun and draws itself in' and that 'people believe the Amazon rainforest burns itself daily'. Please explain further what you mean?

I think he means that the orbit of the Earth changes over time. Sometimes the distance from the sun is less than at other times helping to cause increases and decreases temperature."

Thanks I wasn't clever enough to explain my point until this man cleared it up for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who caused the last ice age?

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher

Exactly .. do we think the last ice age was caused by Fred flintstone in his car haha .. the earth has a natural cycle it distances itself from the sun and draws itself in .. people out there still believing that the Amazon rainforest accidentally burns itself daily .. if you believe that wow there's no helping you

Of course not. Fred Flintstone's car was powered by his feet so obviously no environmental impact.

I am interested in your theory that the sun 'distances itself from the sun and draws itself in' and that 'people believe the Amazon rainforest burns itself daily'. Please explain further what you mean?

I think he means that the orbit of the Earth changes over time. Sometimes the distance from the sun is less than at other times helping to cause increases and decreases temperature.

Thanks I wasn't clever enough to explain my point until this man cleared it up for me "

Yes, orbital pattern - that's not really anything new. The Earth is actually moving away from the Sun.

What climate change studies really imply is the anthropogenic effect on the environment, i.e. the detrimental effect that human activity has caused to the environment in a relatively short space of time.

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By *lynJMan
over a year ago

Morden


"Who caused the last ice age?

Someone turned down the thermostat. Probably a bloke. The ladies have asked for it to be set a bit higher

Exactly .. do we think the last ice age was caused by Fred flintstone in his car haha .. the earth has a natural cycle it distances itself from the sun and draws itself in .. people out there still believing that the Amazon rainforest accidentally burns itself daily .. if you believe that wow there's no helping you

Of course not. Fred Flintstone's car was powered by his feet so obviously no environmental impact.

I am interested in your theory that the sun 'distances itself from the sun and draws itself in' and that 'people believe the Amazon rainforest burns itself daily'. Please explain further what you mean?

I think he means that the orbit of the Earth changes over time. Sometimes the distance from the sun is less than at other times helping to cause increases and decreases temperature.

Thanks I wasn't clever enough to explain my point until this man cleared it up for me "

You're welcome.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick


"Fun fact: The numbers of studies disproving man-made climate change, far outnumber the few studies that say it us real (note I said man-made and not the planet's natural cycle). Another interesting factoid is that the number of 'climate scientists' who claim it to be real is also a huge drop in the ocean.

As has been mentioned, the climate change scare stories rear their head all the time. In order to bring things down it would be fruitful to pick on the corporations and countries which do all the pollution and leave cows alone.

C"

The way I see it is:

If we act now to reduce pollution and climate change isn't real, we will still end up with a nicer, less polluted planet.

If we act now and climate change is real, we might save the planet.

If we don't act now and climate change isn't real, the planet would be fine but polluted.

If we don't act now and climate chis real, we could ruin the planet.

So, no matter if climate change is real or not, the worst potential outcomes are obviously from not doing anything.

So let's do something as it will make the planet better in any case, and if climate change is real, could help save it.

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By *eadinthecloudsMan
over a year ago

Manchester

I genuinely find myself worrying about climate change every single day. Can't go a few hours without it coming back to mind. It's terrifying stuff

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

I agree with Cockasaurus. Sadly the other 8 billion people don’t give a shit, so it’s probably all screwed either way.

I do what I can. I could do more. I try to put it high in my list of priorities where possible.

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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago

just somewhere around here


"Tom is not against climate change but the global carbon footprint of the Glastony festival is probably more than my V8. And Great Thornburg goes on stage to lecture .

What's going on here guys...

Does Tom mean he is not against climate change 'activism', or he's not against climate change itself?!

Maybe Tom could do his bit then and swap his V8 for something more environmentally friendly?"

And maybe also stop referring himself in the third party ?

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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago

just somewhere around here


"Wait until you see all the litter left behind on Monday, Tom "

Yes but will be cleared and sorted into its various uses.It is a working farm so I doubt the Eavis family will just leave the shit to rot?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Who caused the last ice age?"

Mrs Smith at no 42?

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"Who caused the last ice age?"

Various natural factors like milankovitch cycles (the complex way the Earth's orbit and tilt change throughout time), large scale volcanic activity, and feedback loops like the albedo effect from more ice on the planet reflecting more solar radiation away, cooling the planet even more.

Climate change is a natural phenomenon, but what we are seeing now is a rapid anthropogenic induced climate change resulting from industrial civilisation. While we with our short lives might see a decade as a long time, it's miniscule in geologic terms and the rate of change we're seeing today is far faster than the usual, where it would take centuries and millennia at least for an increase like this.

Unfortunately it's only increasing in speed too as the oceans' capability as a heatsink and an absorber of excess co2 has decreased with the warming they've already experienced, as well as the natural CO2 absorbers like forests being destroyed to make more space for our farms, and that's not even going into how methane has started to rise faster than previously predicted

What you'll see if you read into paleoclimatology is how important CO2 is as another feedback device. It hasn't before been a cause for climactic changes as far as I'm aware, but it reinforces the warming caused by other natural phenomenon.

What we're doing as a species is emitting more than the natural carbon cycle is capable of reabsorbing, leading to an increase in the levels which in turn are increasing the greenhouse effect and triggering other Feedback loops.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

So your all fully aware .. just to be clear.. that every movement or breakthrough in technology gets controlled by the people who control the world .. Nikola Tesla proved in 1900's he could provide free electricity to multiple cities using one of his towers.. he went on to make a car fully electric .. his ideas was shut down and found dead in his hotel suite.. because if it went forward all the billionaire families that profited from oil wouldn't of happened ..

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Climate change is natural, we have had ice age and heatwaves before, one example was in 1976 where it was 35.9c and it will come naturally in the future and other ice ages too, remember that we are not killing the earth, it will return to its natural self after the humans have been here, but to make it easier for ourself, we could lower the impact by lowering the pollution levels to name few things.

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun

We have, but the issue here is that the changes we're seeing now usually take millennia at least to happen, not a few decades.

Many species with long term inherited instincts will really struggle to adapt, as well as the very sensitive crops our civilisation relies on that have adapted to the semi stable Holocene period.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

It will all be right in the end...

Stop worrying

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"It will all be right in the end...

Stop worrying "

Yep, it will be. The planet has had many mass extinctions before and will recover eventually after this one.

Just has me thinking that "intelligent" life must be so rare in the cosmos, not because it's super special and amazing, but because of how quickly it can advance into overshoot and how self destructive it seems to be.

Dinosaurs lasted for hundreds of millions of years without needing smartphones. If we make it another thousand I'll be seriously impressed.

That said, i doubt our current overly complex globally interlinked civilisation built upon pure social constructs will survive the century.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Climate change is natural, we have had ice age and heatwaves before, one example was in 1976 where it was 35.9c and it will come naturally in the future and other ice ages too, remember that we are not killing the earth, it will return to its natural self after the humans have been here, but to make it easier for ourself, we could lower the impact by lowering the pollution levels to name few things."

True that mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it would only hurry and warm up i look forward to the beach on my garden "

Careful what you wish for… my home is about 430 years old. But with the currently ‘worst case’ predictions, if I live to 90, the ground floor of my home will be about 1 metre under the waves. That’s a tad too close to the beach for my liking.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore


"Climate change is natural, we have had ice age and heatwaves before, one example was in 1976 where it was 35.9c and it will come naturally in the future and other ice ages too, remember that we are not killing the earth, it will return to its natural self after the humans have been here, but to make it easier for ourself, we could lower the impact by lowering the pollution levels to name few things."

Climate change is definitely man-made. In a few hundred years we've changed the chemical composition of fossil fuels that took millions of years to form. It's counter-intuitive to think that won't have some drastic impact.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Climate change is natural, we have had ice age and heatwaves before, one example was in 1976 where it was 35.9c and it will come naturally in the future and other ice ages too, remember that we are not killing the earth, it will return to its natural self after the humans have been here, but to make it easier for ourself, we could lower the impact by lowering the pollution levels to name few things.

Climate change is definitely man-made. In a few hundred years we've changed the chemical composition of fossil fuels that took millions of years to form. It's counter-intuitive to think that won't have some drastic impact."

Climate change is definitely not man made, however the theory is that the rate that it is happening is affected by human behaviour.

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun

I honestly wish there was more interest among the general public in really learning about the fascinating ancient planet we're on and how it simply does not revolve around us (we've been on this planet for 0.00004% of it's lifespan and only 0.0000022% of it at a scale of complex civilisation) or our belief that life is to be spent stuck working for others in our quest for imaginary money that's completely lost value since the financial industry exploded to the size it is now, turning what originally was a simplification of the bartering process into an all encompassing entity in itself.

I see so many folk dismissing climate change because they heard it happened before, not realising that for many of the natural changes, CO2 among other greenhouse gases was an important Feedback device that helped strengthened the change. Our species is at a point where it's induced it's own climactic change that's set for an inhabitable world for most of us and plenty other life that simply had the misfortune of adapting to a world it shared with a species in overshoot.

And don't believe the politicians who pretend they're doing a good job. This will not be fixed by simply green taxes or a bit more green energy. This would need a huge systematic upheaval and decentralization of the way we organize ourselves at a scale of consumption never seen before.

I have very little optimism in that happening unfortunately, so definitely recommend folk who are worried to learn survivalist and foraging skills again.

This ancient planet that's hurtling around the sun at 30km/s is an utterly amazing place and will live on, with life flourishing again.

The silly little fantasy world of our own creation us humans have become trapped in is nothing in comparison, and i blame it for the rise in mental health issues as it's a world built upon imaginary constructions not based on reality that we never adapted to.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Climate change is natural, we have had ice age and heatwaves before, one example was in 1976 where it was 35.9c and it will come naturally in the future and other ice ages too, remember that we are not killing the earth, it will return to its natural self after the humans have been here, but to make it easier for ourself, we could lower the impact by lowering the pollution levels to name few things.

Climate change is definitely man-made. In a few hundred years we've changed the chemical composition of fossil fuels that took millions of years to form. It's counter-intuitive to think that won't have some drastic impact.

Climate change is definitely not man made, however the theory is that the rate that it is happening is affected by human behaviour."
This .

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