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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Are you allowed? Or is it public indecency?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think i'd freak out my clients.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Might stop all the nosey people rubber necking when they walk past

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By *valanche1001Man
over a year ago

Leeds

I am but no one can see

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

I do! X

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By *interfoxWoman
over a year ago

maesteg

I would if my garden was private

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

If you knowingly can be seen then it’s indecent otherwise not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Private garden so naked all the time. Don't like white bites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to get naked in my garden

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach

"If you knowingly can be seen then it’s indecent otherwise not."

We got rid of the laws around 'indecency' ages ago (at least in England and Wales we did).

There's nothing wrong with being naked. Though if your neighbour complains, and you keep doing it, then that could constitute harassment.

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By *valanche1001Man
over a year ago

Leeds

Things are looking up, my new neighbour appears to like sunbathing topless

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By *iss_BeautyCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

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By *iss_BeautyCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

Hi, does anyone know a nudist beach near Liverpool, Blackpool or the East Coast?

We don't have any garden, so we are looking for some other options

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"Things are looking up, my new neighbour appears to like sunbathing topless

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Just because you moved into my cupboard doesn't make me your "neighbour"

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By *valanche1001Man
over a year ago

Leeds

"Hi, does anyone know a nudist beach near Liverpool, Blackpool or the East Coast?

We don't have any garden, so we are looking for some other options

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My garden?

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By *valanche1001Man
over a year ago

Leeds

"Things are looking up, my new neighbour appears to like sunbathing topless

Just because you moved into my cupboard doesn't make me your "neighbour""

You do everything topless - at least in my mind

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"Things are looking up, my new neighbour appears to like sunbathing topless

Just because you moved into my cupboard doesn't make me your "neighbour"

You do everything topless - at least in my mind

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Oh sweetie... that's why I fall over so much. I trip over my low hanging nipples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is what the actual law states:

"In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress."

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By *-boneMan
over a year ago

Shropshire

I do in my garden, few pics on my profile sunbathing nude, with a hard on, I do have a neighbour, she enjoys spying on me while I'm in the garden

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach

"This is what the actual law states:

"In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress.""

Except that's not the actual law, it's a quote from the CPS 'Guidance on handling cases of Naturism' leaflet.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism

It's a good explainer, but it's not the actual law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Firstly, it is not an offence to be naked in public in England and Wales. However, it can become an offence if it can be proven that the naked individual caused harassment, alarm or distress to another person. In the absence of any sexual context and intention to cause alarm and distress – being naked in public is within the law.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) notes in its guidance that every case should be considered on its own facts and merits and ‘a balance needs to be struck between the naturist’s right to freedom of expression and the right of the wider public to be protected from harassment, alarm and distress’. In assessing intention, there must be a serious reason to believe that the naked individual intended to cause alarm and distress. Therefore the circumstance in which public nudity occurs will need to be carefully reviewed.

Possible offences

There are a number of offences with which a naked individual with the necessary intent could be charged:

Indecent exposure under s.66 Sexual Offences Act: this requires a person to intentionally expose their genitals and intend that someone will see them and be caused alarm or distress.

Harassment, alarm, distress under s.5 Public Order Act 1986: this requires a person to display any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, within the hearing or sight of a person that is likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress.

Outraging public decency under common law: this requires a person to do in public any act of a lewd, obscene or disgusting nature which outrages public decency and must “go considerably beyond the susceptibilities of, or even shocking, reasonable people.” (per Lord Simon in Knuller (Publishing, Printing and promotions) Ltd v DPP)

If found guilty of any of the above offences, a defendant could face anything from a fine to several years imprisonment.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach

Yes, I have read the leaflet that I linked to, but in my case I understood it.

That leaflet is guidance to legal professionals as to whether or not a prosecution could succeed. It's not intended to explain the law, and it's just guidance, not a binding law.

"Firstly, it is not an offence to be naked in public in England and Wales. However, it can become an offence if it can be proven that the naked individual caused harassment, alarm or distress to another person."

Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 says "A person commits an offence if ... he intentionally exposes his genitals, and ... he intends that someone will see them and be caused alarm or distress". The offence is based on whether the person intended to cause alarm or distress, not whether alarm or distress was actually caused.

The leaflet is saying that, without a person that was actually caused alarm or distress, any prosecution is likely to fail.

"Harassment, alarm, distress under s.5 Public Order Act 1986: this requires a person to display any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, within the hearing or sight of a person that is likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress."

As the leaflet says, this requires threatening or disorderly behaviour. Is not applicable to someone sunbathing in their own back garden.

"Outraging public decency under common law: this requires a person to do in public any act of a lewd, obscene or disgusting nature which outrages public decency and must “go considerably beyond the susceptibilities of, or even shocking, reasonable people."

As the leaflet says, Outraging Public Decency is a common law offence, so the details of it lie in case law. It has been proven several times that simply being naked, even in a public place, does not outage public decency.

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By *1bttmMan
over a year ago

Shoreditch east London

"Are you allowed? Or is it public indecency? "

I just read an article about that recently (can't remember where). Though it's not illegal u either have to warn yr neighbours if they have a direct view or do it discreetly so they can't see. If they were to complain that's when the police can actually do something about it.

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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago

Derbyshire village

Wish I didn't have an overlooked(very much so) garden...

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach

"Though it's not illegal u either have to warn yr neighbours if they have a direct view or do it discreetly so they can't see. If they were to complain that's when the police can actually do something about it."

You don't have to warn your neighbour and, unless you get on with them, it's not a good idea to do so.

If you don't get on with your neighbour, they are likely to object, just to spite you. If you went ahead and did it anyway, they could have a case for harassment. If you don't warn them, they can't say that you're doing it to annoy them.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

Others have said you have to warn your neighbors. You don't, it's your business as long as you clearly don't intend to cause alarm and distress. However it's advised you do. But you may not want to as it's your own personal business or you may feel it may create a problem telling them where it wouldn't if you didn't tell them. Naturally you do need to use a bit of judgment and commonsense. And if you do end up unintentionally causing alarm or distress it's your responsibility to stop this and take measures not to cause it again.

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By *hinstrapMan
over a year ago

Barnsley

Suns out. Plums out.. I say ha

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By *athers123Man
over a year ago

Harpenden

Never mind the neighbours, my own family tell me I'm not allowed to go nude in the garden! I thought them using the garden hose to drive their point home was highly insensitive though!

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

"Never mind the neighbours, my own family tell me I'm not allowed to go nude in the garden! I thought them using the garden hose to drive their point home was highly insensitive though!"

Harsh. Our policy is once we've declared naked garden for the day we'll be naked. So with regards to our friends and family it's completely up to them if they want to be out in the garden or not when we're naked. Whatever is comfortable with them. It's isn't anything unusual or adnormal in our household.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The new place we live really isn’t overlooked at all, so we’ve both wandered around the garden naked (and got up to shenanigans in the hot tub …)

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By *haron StonerTV/TS
over a year ago

Haywards Heath

Your neighbours kids being offended by just looking out they're windows. You don't 'need' to be naked no matter what 'you' think. And your neighbours don't like it either and don't pretend they do because they haven't said anything yet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So basically, you can be naked in your garden until someone complains, but how do you know they will complain until they actually do?

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Private garden so naked all the time. Don't like white bites

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You quickly moved it on to bites

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By *tarburst babydollMan
over a year ago

Dingwall

Overlooked by 3 neighbours so it's only topless for me but did ask the neighbours first if they had any objections

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would,but unfortunately the garden is overlooked.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"So basically, you can be naked in your garden until someone complains, but how do you know they will complain until they actually do?"

I think it's highly likely that regardless of whether they'll make an actual complaint or not, it'll make them highly uncomfortable.

Unless you're a woman, and your neighbour is a man. According to some on here that's a good thing because it MUST mean the woman is gagging for it, and it's an invite for sex. She would be fully clothed if she didn't want you to see right? And if she wants you to see, she wants you to come over and dick her.

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By *av96Man
over a year ago

Nottingham

I do am now ??

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Nudity has nothing to do with sex. It's great to be in the nude when appropriate and do not compromise any decency norms.

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By *undance_KidMan
over a year ago

London

"I would if my garden was private "

This

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"Nudity has nothing to do with sex. It's great to be in the nude when appropriate and do not compromise any decency norms.

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Neither has wearing clothes, yet some folk fail to grasp that. How many threads have you seen talking about what someone is wearing, and if they're revealing should they go speak to the person or suchlike coz they might be sending out secret signals they're looking to hook up. There was literally a thread a few weeks ago about wearing a bikini in your own garden being a signal to onlookers to come over for sex.

my brain couldn't take it.

It's a sad fact that people ARE sexualised whether they want to be or not.

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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago

taunton

You could put up a sign warning any complainers that voyeurism is an offence lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God no! you can see through the fence slats and 7 households use the path next to my garden. There'd be complaints galore, crying children and at least one phone call to the police.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Nudity has nothing to do with sex. It's great to be in the nude when appropriate and do not compromise any decency norms.

Neither has wearing clothes, yet some folk fail to grasp that. How many threads have you seen talking about what someone is wearing, and if they're revealing should they go speak to the person or suchlike coz they might be sending out secret signals they're looking to hook up. There was literally a thread a few weeks ago about wearing a bikini in your own garden being a signal to onlookers to come over for sex.

my brain couldn't take it.

It's a sad fact that people ARE sexualised whether they want to be or not."

You are right of course. And most people will wear what they do for themselves not for attracting sexual attention. People will always look even admire but nobody should see that as an invitation to free for all or any for that matter. As you said, it is what it is but when I am naked or wearing very little I do it for me and most nudists don't even notice nudity around them. Btw, so far I have not had to fight them off

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach

"So basically, you can be naked in your garden until someone complains ..."

No, from a legal point of view you can be naked in your garden, whether they complain or not. Their complaint might get you a visit from a bored police officer, but you can't be prosecuted for it.

But obviously it's not a good idea to deliberately annoy your neighbours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically, you can be naked in your garden until someone complains ...

No, from a legal point of view you can be naked in your garden, whether they complain or not. Their complaint might get you a visit from a bored police officer, but you can't be prosecuted for it.

But obviously it's not a good idea to deliberately annoy your neighbours."

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

cambridge

It feels great and is super healthy - but then again i'm not overlooked. I live in a village and the vicar's wife popped by once unannounced .... soon put a stop to unannounced calls ????

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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago

taunton

Heck I have turned into a naturist this week and I like it I am even naked at work under my boiler suit lol.

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By *oubletroubleCouple
over a year ago

South West

Naked in garden right now

Well in hot tub

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By *eeboCouple
over a year ago

basingstoke

Definitely enjoy this and Mrs C will join me if the neighbours are out!!

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By *i-ManMan
over a year ago

Barton

Love it as and when I can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Every opportunity...including today.

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