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"But what about all the 2p arcade machines...." Tokens bought with a card | |||
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"But what about all the 2p arcade machines...." They will go contactless to at some point. | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash." I do worry about the people who rely on tips and work with cash only. I know people can add a tip to their payment but it's not the same. | |||
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"I went to get a coffee and lunch the other week. Walked in and ordered, started making my order and then they said they don't take cash at all. I'd ran out the office with just a tenner so I had to leave but they'd already made / wasted my fresh order. No signs on the door or cash register. I felt so bad for wasting the food but not sure what else I could have done. " Is that not illegal? I thought if you were selling something you had to accept cash, but maybe the laws have changed. | |||
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"I went to get a coffee and lunch the other week. Walked in and ordered, started making my order and then they said they don't take cash at all. I'd ran out the office with just a tenner so I had to leave but they'd already made / wasted my fresh order. No signs on the door or cash register. I felt so bad for wasting the food but not sure what else I could have done. Is that not illegal? I thought if you were selling something you had to accept cash, but maybe the laws have changed." OK, no its not. But it's a bit silly of them, especially not clearly advertising it. | |||
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"We’re a 50/50 split at the moment, primarily a generational thing I think. Source for this: https://www.ukfinance.org.uk/sites/default/files/uploads/SUMMARY-UK-Payment-Markets-2021-FINAL.pdf" Issuing a correction, it’s not 50/50, but the numbers are nutty! | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash." if im anywhere to eat and such i always pay with card. But i make sure i always take cash for a tip | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash. if im anywhere to eat and such i always pay with card. But i make sure i always take cash for a tip" I thought most restaurants add service charge to the bill. | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash. if im anywhere to eat and such i always pay with card. But i make sure i always take cash for a tip I thought most restaurants add service charge to the bill." Nope. Some do. More don't than do. | |||
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"But what about all the 2p arcade machines.... Tokens bought with a card " But then I suppose they could use the old redundant 2p coin as a token to save melting it down | |||
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"Do you believe the UK has become or turning into a cashless society? Nearly everyone pays with a credit card or their mobile phones, such as Apple Pay or Google Pay. What are your thoughts? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Please give reasons why you believe so" It's moving that way and I don't like it. I'm old school and like cash. You can touch it when you spend it. | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable" Most of things are already the case with cash anyway. Unless your employer is paying you cash directly into your hand, everything is traceable, including the notes you withdraw | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash. if im anywhere to eat and such i always pay with card. But i make sure i always take cash for a tip I thought most restaurants add service charge to the bill. Nope. Some do. More don't than do." I always take cash to somewhere where a tip is appropriate, I want to see the person who has been brilliant directly receive the gratitude, not have it siphoned off for the company. | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable" Everything she said and I'd like to add all the charity tins by tills that my random change goes in will disappear along with the charities they fund | |||
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"Those in power... Eg, not the government... Want a cashless society where by they can hold you hostage with your money in the nether, see what happened to those Canadian truckers. Have the wrong opinion? - account frozen till you publicly apologise or are otherwise totally demeaned and the legacy media have the story spun to the brainwashed masses. " China uses a Social Credit Score system that penalises them for bad spending and behaviour. | |||
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"Those in power... Eg, not the government... Want a cashless society where by they can hold you hostage with your money in the nether, see what happened to those Canadian truckers. Have the wrong opinion? - account frozen till you publicly apologise or are otherwise totally demeaned and the legacy media have the story spun to the brainwashed masses. China uses a Social Credit Score system that penalises them for bad spending and behaviour. " Just like Chinas over reaction to the virus (over reaction as they didn't want to look guilty of negligence) was copied around the world needlessly, as will their authoritarian tenancies. The society we've built for ourselves is slowly closing in around us and no one sees it, just keep watching the heavily biased and opinion forming content beamed to you through your tvs and media accounts and ignore it everyone, nothing to see here... Barr Barr. | |||
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"Use cards in most situations but like to tip in cash. For small amounts, say under a tenner, I'll use cash. Cards also cut down any random overcharging where the old "I gave you a £20 note, not a tenner." I use multiple cards for different occasions, like Starling as I pre load for holidays etc. I do wish elderly folks used more cards, was in a post office and watched an elderly lady draw out a large wad of cash, went outside and fiddled putting it into her purse in full view, she was a robbers wet dream, a quick push it's a lost purse and a broken hip. Did hang around until she had organised her purse and trolley and moved on." This is very true, and good on you. My Nan had her purse stolen in a Supermarket a couple of years ago, boils my piss still. | |||
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"Those in power... Eg, not the government... Want a cashless society where by they can hold you hostage with your money in the nether, see what happened to those Canadian truckers. Have the wrong opinion? - account frozen till you publicly apologise or are otherwise totally demeaned and the legacy media have the story spun to the brainwashed masses. " Haha, brilliant. Have the government frozen your millions in UK accounts. How do they get access to your foreign held assets as most wealthy folks like yourself tend to be cash poor, asset rich. Probably cost more to freeze my bank account than what's in it. | |||
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"Those in power... Eg, not the government... Want a cashless society where by they can hold you hostage with your money in the nether, see what happened to those Canadian truckers. Have the wrong opinion? - account frozen till you publicly apologise or are otherwise totally demeaned and the legacy media have the story spun to the brainwashed masses. Haha, brilliant. Have the government frozen your millions in UK accounts. How do they get access to your foreign held assets as most wealthy folks like yourself tend to be cash poor, asset rich. Probably cost more to freeze my bank account than what's in it. " It's sad really, I'd recommend you research organisations such as the WEF. The emergency powers which the WEF trained Justin trudeu of Canada put in place so he could freeze the truckers accounts, have not been rescinded... | |||
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"Those in power... Eg, not the government... Want a cashless society where by they can hold you hostage with your money in the nether, see what happened to those Canadian truckers. Have the wrong opinion? - account frozen till you publicly apologise or are otherwise totally demeaned and the legacy media have the story spun to the brainwashed masses. " CBDCs. Full control of the pound in your digital wallet, right down to product level. | |||
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"Those in power... Eg, not the government... Want a cashless society where by they can hold you hostage with your money in the nether, see what happened to those Canadian truckers. Have the wrong opinion? - account frozen till you publicly apologise or are otherwise totally demeaned and the legacy media have the story spun to the brainwashed masses. Haha, brilliant. Have the government frozen your millions in UK accounts. How do they get access to your foreign held assets as most wealthy folks like yourself tend to be cash poor, asset rich. Probably cost more to freeze my bank account than what's in it. It's sad really, I'd recommend you research organisations such as the WEF. The emergency powers which the WEF trained Justin trudeu of Canada put in place so he could freeze the truckers accounts, have not been rescinded... " Can't be arsed mate, rather nip to the beach tonight than worry about government freezing my bank account. | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable Everything she said and I'd like to add all the charity tins by tills that my random change goes in will disappear along with the charities they fund " there are probably already alternatives for all these things, and if not i would imagine there will be by the time we completely go cashless which will more than likely be a couple of decades time. | |||
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"I have been cashless for a number of years. I think the last thing I remember carrying cash for was car parking, and they have been pay by app for a few years now. Honestly, I have carried zero cash for several years. Having worked for several banks, I am aware of the issues and fully aware that there is far less fraud on cashless and contactless payments. The thing that always makes me laugh is the people who say they prefer cash coz the government and banks don't have control. But that's completely the opposite. What you have with cash is a piece of paper, or metal, that is intrinsically worth nothing. But the government gives it a value, and that's a value they can change at any time by fiscal policy. Previous to cash, people walked around with things that were intrinsically worth something, like a lump of gold. Look I don't mind if you like cash, but at the end of the day, a 5 pound note is only worth what the government say it's worth." And if there's no physicality to it at all, then you can't be in full control of it ever. Which is why there can still be runs on banks. | |||
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"Yes it will be soon. But it’ll hang around a bit like cheques do now. It’s a bad thing. " I wrote a cheque last week, first one in years, it was a strange experience. | |||
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"Yes it will be soon. But it’ll hang around a bit like cheques do now. It’s a bad thing. I wrote a cheque last week, first one in years, it was a strange experience. " I don’t see how they still take 3 days to clear? You can literally use an app to send money instantly around the globe. But banks take 3 days because you wrote a cheque. | |||
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"Do you believe the UK has become or turning into a cashless society? Nearly everyone pays with a credit card or their mobile phones, such as Apple Pay or Google Pay. What are your thoughts? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Please give reasons why you believe so It's moving that way and I don't like it. I'm old school and like cash. You can touch it when you spend it. " ... and touch all that fecal matter that's on every coin and note... mmm.... | |||
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"Yeah I'm certainly guilty of it. It's just easier. Of course the tracking aspect is not ideal but hopefully I won't find myself accused of a crime I didn't commit and have to go on the run to prove my innocence. " If you have a problem and no one else can help, and if you can find him, you can hire MAGNETO Da da da, da_da daa | |||
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"But yes i can see the country going cashless . Can you imagine paying on card at carboot sales " Regular sellers have card machines now. | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable" Add to this the real possibility that you will be restricted on what you buy. You have exceeded your meat allocation for the month. Please replace the bacon. You have exceeded your alcohol allowance for this week... You posted something we didn't like on social media, your account is frozen. Keep using cash folks | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable Add to this the real possibility that you will be restricted on what you buy. You have exceeded your meat allocation for the month. Please replace the bacon. You have exceeded your alcohol allowance for this week... You posted something we didn't like on social media, your account is frozen. Keep using cash folks" Thats a social credit society, not a cashless society. Maybe one day that will happen, but i think ill be long dead before then | |||
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"How can you trust the balance, have you tried getting a balance from a cash machine abroad? Seeing as roaming charges are returning for some mobile operators, online bank balances will start to cost you. " Just use the bank app | |||
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"What will children have to spend?" PreLoaded cards/accounts | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable" This. Not a fan for all the reasons listed. | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable Add to this the real possibility that you will be restricted on what you buy. You have exceeded your meat allocation for the month. Please replace the bacon. You have exceeded your alcohol allowance for this week... You posted something we didn't like on social media, your account is frozen. Keep using cash folks Thats a social credit society, not a cashless society. Maybe one day that will happen, but i think ill be long dead before then" Those of us with kids feel differently | |||
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"We won't become cashless in my lifetime or probably my children's so a long way off yet in my opinion. I prefer cash but there again I am old " Yeah i think it will be decades And decades away from going completely cashless, but i can see a-lot of big retailers potentially heading that way within the the next 10 to 20 years. I work for a big retailer and we are already looking to trial a number of stores going cashless next year | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable Add to this the real possibility that you will be restricted on what you buy. You have exceeded your meat allocation for the month. Please replace the bacon. You have exceeded your alcohol allowance for this week... You posted something we didn't like on social media, your account is frozen. Keep using cash folks Thats a social credit society, not a cashless society. Maybe one day that will happen, but i think ill be long dead before then Those of us with kids feel differently " Don’t get me wrong it is something i would be strongly against and can see how by going completely cashless could than quite easily lead on to social credit system. | |||
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"But what about all the 2p arcade machines...." there all tickets now haha | |||
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"Im In Cornwall most places are card only because they've shut the banks so miles to go but home most are cash only avoid tax man im a cash person so I no what I've spent to easy to get lost when out with the cards." Im the opposite, since ive been cashless i find it much easier to control my spend and track where im spending it. It did take some adjustment tho. | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash. I do worry about the people who rely on tips and work with cash only. I know people can add a tip to their payment but it's not the same. " Especially in the UK where you get taxed on card tips, but it’s not the same as, say America because tips are considered extra to pay, not part of it | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable Add to this the real possibility that you will be restricted on what you buy. You have exceeded your meat allocation for the month. Please replace the bacon. You have exceeded your alcohol allowance for this week... You posted something we didn't like on social media, your account is frozen. Keep using cash folks" You do realise they can bring in controls like this even with cash? They did it during the war. They can also change what cash is legal at any point they like, so your big pile of cash under the mattress can become worthless without you exchanging it at the bank. If the government want to control your money, they already can. | |||
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"Im In Cornwall most places are card only because they've shut the banks so miles to go but home most are cash only avoid tax man im a cash person so I no what I've spent to easy to get lost when out with the cards." I find cashless easier to keep track of, as the banking app on my phone shows me how much I have, how much I've spent and where. | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash." I fell foul of this just yesterday. Most larger restaurants will include a service charge on the bill. I don't mind this, except it's generally less than I would tip anyway, and I pay by card. Yesterday I was in a smaller cafe, had a really nice breakfast and they only had a tips jar. I had no cash... | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash. I do worry about the people who rely on tips and work with cash only. I know people can add a tip to their payment but it's not the same. Especially in the UK where you get taxed on card tips, but it’s not the same as, say America because tips are considered extra to pay, not part of it" I think there will soon be a solution for this. There will either be a app developed where you can tip your waiter directly through that. The next generation of phones or bank cards will more than likely have technology built in to them that essentially act like contactless card readers which means you can easily give over a tip by touching one device/card to another. | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash." We always tip in cash for exactly that reason | |||
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"It’s coming yes but just remember if they don’t like what you spend your money on they can turn off your access to money . Look at those who paid money to the Canadian truckers who had their accounts frozen . " The protesters had their accounts frozen, which I'd agree seems draconian (but is clearly lawful in that jurisdiction). There was no penalty for the people contributing to the fundraising, which would be what you describe as "they not liking what you spend your money on" | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash. if im anywhere to eat and such i always pay with card. But i make sure i always take cash for a tip I thought most restaurants add service charge to the bill." most is optional the ones ive been to . So i pay tip seperate | |||
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"No cash tips = no food for me that day Yeah, that's how I feel about cash." Same here….we do accept card tips but they get split and have to wait til my pay check | |||
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"The big evil is that banks and Government will have access to your spending and spending habits something that was once private and only your concern now isn't private " HUndreds of thousands have already handed this over to supermarkets etc via loyalty cards and to Amazon. How many pineapples I buy is already a matter of public record, and I think I'm over it. I do believe in privacy, but my preference for semi-skinned is not where I'll be fighting that battle. | |||
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"What's the drug dealers going to do?" Now that is an awesome point. | |||
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"What's the drug dealers going to do? Now that is an awesome point. " Numerous Banks have been exposed laundering Drug Cartels money, how will the Banks manage without that extra liquidity? Interesting isn't it, would this eradicate drugs off our streets and out of peoples homes? Now that wouldn't be a bad thing to happen. | |||
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"Will pay-for-toilets go this way too?" Already have | |||
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"In some respects it adds to price increases as retailers have to pay merchants transaction fees. Buying a 99p drink or £100 bag of shopping, each and every transaction will cost a % fee, whether that fee is economical depends on the transaction, so too the energy and storage needed to process everything will be increasing. Some authority is looking into Visa charges at the moment. I think it was Amazon that near cut ties with Mastercard last year over excessive fees." I own a business we get charged more by the bank for putting cash in | |||
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"Will pay-for-toilets go this way too?" Some toilets in the lakes are cashless | |||
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"But yes i can see the country going cashless . Can you imagine paying on card at carboot sales " Seen Sumup used at car boot sales | |||
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"I paid with cash several times yesterday but it was the first time for months. I think cash will always have a place but will be used much less." Precisely articulated. | |||
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"What's the drug dealers going to do?" Haven't the criminals moved over to crypto currency. | |||
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"Yes will cashless very soon. The main issue is everything is linked to a computer system at HMRC. So if you have any type of funds unaccounted for they will see it. " "Everything" is not linked to a computer system at HMRC! In fact, HMRC need to issue a "Third Party Notice" to request a look at an individual or business bank account. In reality, no individual organisation has the processing power or man power to check every transaction that runs through every bank account every day. There are currently around 50 million card transaction per day in the UK alone. Cal | |||
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"What's the drug dealers going to do? Haven't the criminals moved over to crypto currency. " Crypto is often used for LARGE transactions, but is not being used by street dealers. There are loads of small peer to peer payment systems that they can use, most are still using cash though. | |||
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"A cashless society means: * No more tuck-away cash for those preparing to leave domestic violence. * No more purchases off marketplace unless you want to risk bank transfer fraud. * No more garage sales. * No more cash donations to hungry homeless you pass. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child from their grandparent. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks or tooth fairy for your child. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * Less choices of where you purchase based on affordability. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable" You forgot to mention the closing down of all unprofitable bussiness like, burger and ice cream vans, takeaways, barbers shops, tanning and nail salons, and car washes that handle a lot of cash, which although they don't actually make much money for the owners, they provide the perfect means of laundering funny money. The High Streets will be ghost towns. | |||
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"In some respects it adds to price increases as retailers have to pay merchants transaction fees. Buying a 99p drink or £100 bag of shopping, each and every transaction will cost a % fee, whether that fee is economical depends on the transaction, so too the energy and storage needed to process everything will be increasing. Some authority is looking into Visa charges at the moment. I think it was Amazon that near cut ties with Mastercard last year over excessive fees. I own a business we get charged more by the bank for putting cash in" Just saw you can pay for a 20p loo trip... the charges must have changed massively | |||
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"Will pay-for-toilets go this way too?" alot are already contactless payments | |||
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"Our friends parents went on a coach trip. Every time they went to pay for anything - the same problem. Sorry we don’t take cash. No cash in the hotel or the bar for drinks or their trip out . It spoilt their holiday. Then when it was time to come home the coach driver passed his hat around for tips . They took great pleasure in saying- sorry we don’t do cash ! " Because the man driving the coach is responsible for policy at all destinations... I get that they were frustrated, but that's massively unfair of them. | |||
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"Yes will cashless very soon. The main issue is everything is linked to a computer system at HMRC. So if you have any type of funds unaccounted for they will see it. "Everything" is not linked to a computer system at HMRC! In fact, HMRC need to issue a "Third Party Notice" to request a look at an individual or business bank account. In reality, no individual organisation has the processing power or man power to check every transaction that runs through every bank account every day. There are currently around 50 million card transaction per day in the UK alone. Cal" The paranoia in this thread is terrifying. | |||
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"To wish or celebrate a cashless society is selfish in my opinion. There are so many, particularly elderly people, who don't use cards and to allow businesses and others to limit how they can pay is unacceptable in my opinion. I intentionally pay cash these days if I can do so that I am not someone who contributes to the perverse notion that we should all be using cards all the time no matter how convenient that is, and it is. " I don’t buy into the notion the elderly people can’t use cards. Its far easy for them than cash, they are just stuck in there ways. | |||
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"It's not for me or you to dictate to them though is it? " No not at all, but it is peoples choice to do what is best for them and their business’s. | |||
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"To wish or celebrate a cashless society is selfish in my opinion. There are so many, particularly elderly people, who don't use cards and to allow businesses and others to limit how they can pay is unacceptable in my opinion. I intentionally pay cash these days if I can do so that I am not someone who contributes to the perverse notion that we should all be using cards all the time no matter how convenient that is, and it is. I don’t buy into the notion the elderly people can’t use cards. Its far easy for them than cash, they are just stuck in there ways. " It’s not just cards though, it’s the whole digital banking that comes with it. You obviously don’t have to help anyone elderly manage their money or you would see how difficult it actually is for them. | |||
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"To wish or celebrate a cashless society is selfish in my opinion. There are so many, particularly elderly people, who don't use cards and to allow businesses and others to limit how they can pay is unacceptable in my opinion. I intentionally pay cash these days if I can do so that I am not someone who contributes to the perverse notion that we should all be using cards all the time no matter how convenient that is, and it is. I don’t buy into the notion the elderly people can’t use cards. Its far easy for them than cash, they are just stuck in there ways. It’s not just cards though, it’s the whole digital banking that comes with it. You obviously don’t have to help anyone elderly manage their money or you would see how difficult it actually is for them." The exact opposite actually, i help my parents, aunty’s, uncles and my nan with digital banking and setting up phone payments and pre loaded payment cards etc. | |||
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"It's not for me or you to dictate to them though is it? No not at all, but it is peoples choice to do what is best for them and their business’s." That's true but I will make my bit to discourage them going completely cashless as far as I can as I don't believe in discriminating again sections of the society. Also as many have said, how will you tip a good busker or help a homeless person or give to charity the change etc. So many things that would be affected, so despite the convenience, I hope cash never goes | |||
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"To wish or celebrate a cashless society is selfish in my opinion. There are so many, particularly elderly people, who don't use cards and to allow businesses and others to limit how they can pay is unacceptable in my opinion. I intentionally pay cash these days if I can do so that I am not someone who contributes to the perverse notion that we should all be using cards all the time no matter how convenient that is, and it is. I don’t buy into the notion the elderly people can’t use cards. Its far easy for them than cash, they are just stuck in there ways. It’s not just cards though, it’s the whole digital banking that comes with it. You obviously don’t have to help anyone elderly manage their money or you would see how difficult it actually is for them. The exact opposite actually, i help my parents, aunty’s, uncles and my nan with digital banking and setting up phone payments and pre loaded payment cards etc. " So you help them. It’s the ones who don’t have reliable folk like yourself to help who struggle. | |||
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"To wish or celebrate a cashless society is selfish in my opinion. There are so many, particularly elderly people, who don't use cards and to allow businesses and others to limit how they can pay is unacceptable in my opinion. I intentionally pay cash these days if I can do so that I am not someone who contributes to the perverse notion that we should all be using cards all the time no matter how convenient that is, and it is. I don’t buy into the notion the elderly people can’t use cards. Its far easy for them than cash, they are just stuck in there ways. It’s not just cards though, it’s the whole digital banking that comes with it. You obviously don’t have to help anyone elderly manage their money or you would see how difficult it actually is for them. The exact opposite actually, i help my parents, aunty’s, uncles and my nan with digital banking and setting up phone payments and pre loaded payment cards etc. So you help them. It’s the ones who don’t have reliable folk like yourself to help who struggle." and also why should they need to have help just because someone decided its more convenient for them to reject cash. Its far too selfish in my opinion | |||
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"It's not for me or you to dictate to them though is it? No not at all, but it is peoples choice to do what is best for them and their business’s. That's true but I will make my bit to discourage them going completely cashless as far as I can as I don't believe in discriminating again sections of the society. Also as many have said, how will you tip a good busker or help a homeless person or give to charity the change etc. So many things that would be affected, so despite the convenience, I hope cash never goes" Fair play. I think there are already alternatives and solutions in place to all those things and if not there certainly will be by the time we go cashless. (Which is decades away). Think how much technology as advanced in last 20 years, and made many many things easier, think what it will be like in another 20 years time. | |||
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"I went to get a coffee and lunch the other week. Walked in and ordered, started making my order and then they said they don't take cash at all. I'd ran out the office with just a tenner so I had to leave but they'd already made / wasted my fresh order. I No signs on the door or cash register. I felt so bad for wasting the food but not sure what else I could have done. Could you not have found an eatery where you can grab a bite to eat and a coffee for less then a tenner or am I just a cheap date lol " | |||
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"To wish or celebrate a cashless society is selfish in my opinion. There are so many, particularly elderly people, who don't use cards and to allow businesses and others to limit how they can pay is unacceptable in my opinion. I intentionally pay cash these days if I can do so that I am not someone who contributes to the perverse notion that we should all be using cards all the time no matter how convenient that is, and it is. I don’t buy into the notion the elderly people can’t use cards. Its far easy for them than cash, they are just stuck in there ways. It’s not just cards though, it’s the whole digital banking that comes with it. You obviously don’t have to help anyone elderly manage their money or you would see how difficult it actually is for them. The exact opposite actually, i help my parents, aunty’s, uncles and my nan with digital banking and setting up phone payments and pre loaded payment cards etc. So you help them. It’s the ones who don’t have reliable folk like yourself to help who struggle." I totally get that and its not like a cashless society will start from tomorrow, we are decades away from it. So the elderly will be gone anyway. But i would urge anyone in late middle age’s to get on board now and at least start to get a understanding off the digital world. | |||
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"To wish or celebrate a cashless society is selfish in my opinion. There are so many, particularly elderly people, who don't use cards and to allow businesses and others to limit how they can pay is unacceptable in my opinion. I intentionally pay cash these days if I can do so that I am not someone who contributes to the perverse notion that we should all be using cards all the time no matter how convenient that is, and it is. I don’t buy into the notion the elderly people can’t use cards. Its far easy for them than cash, they are just stuck in there ways. It’s not just cards though, it’s the whole digital banking that comes with it. You obviously don’t have to help anyone elderly manage their money or you would see how difficult it actually is for them. The exact opposite actually, i help my parents, aunty’s, uncles and my nan with digital banking and setting up phone payments and pre loaded payment cards etc. So you help them. It’s the ones who don’t have reliable folk like yourself to help who struggle. and also why should they need to have help just because someone decided its more convenient for them to reject cash. Its far too selfish in my opinion" Because like it or not we live in a capitalised society, business’s are going to make the decision that is best for them and keep them going into the future, they are not going to worry about a tiny tiny percentage of the population that maybe don’t bring them any profit anyway. | |||
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"I thought most restaurants add service charge to the bill. Nope. Some do. More don't than do." And even if a restaurant dos add it there is no guarantee the waiting staff will get it. | |||
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"To wish or celebrate a cashless society is selfish in my opinion. There are so many, particularly elderly people, who don't use cards and to allow businesses and others to limit how they can pay is unacceptable in my opinion. I intentionally pay cash these days if I can do so that I am not someone who contributes to the perverse notion that we should all be using cards all the time no matter how convenient that is, and it is. I don’t buy into the notion the elderly people can’t use cards. Its far easy for them than cash, they are just stuck in there ways. It’s not just cards though, it’s the whole digital banking that comes with it. You obviously don’t have to help anyone elderly manage their money or you would see how difficult it actually is for them. The exact opposite actually, i help my parents, aunty’s, uncles and my nan with digital banking and setting up phone payments and pre loaded payment cards etc. So you help them. It’s the ones who don’t have reliable folk like yourself to help who struggle. and also why should they need to have help just because someone decided its more convenient for them to reject cash. Its far too selfish in my opinion Because like it or not we live in a capitalised society, business’s are going to make the decision that is best for them and keep them going into the future, they are not going to worry about a tiny tiny percentage of the population that maybe don’t bring them any profit anyway. " Well, you continue to support those then but I will on the other hand take my money elsewhere where they accept both and sometimes I will pay by card and sometimes will use cash. I can't change the world but I can still protest in a small way to protect those who would suffer from such selfish arrangements. | |||
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"I thought most restaurants add service charge to the bill. Nope. Some do. More don't than do. And even if a restaurant dos add it there is no guarantee the waiting staff will get it." I believe in tipping the individual for their service and always make sure I give the tip to them unless it was several people when I will ask if the tips are given to them and then will add to the bill. | |||
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"HUndreds of thousands have already handed this over to supermarkets etc via loyalty cards and to Amazon. How many pineapples I buy is already a matter of public record, and I think I'm over it. I do believe in privacy, but my preference for semi-skinned is not where I'll be fighting that battle." Exactly This data does get sold to the government. What they do with it I don't know. And it amazes me how people get antsy about 'the government' when they happily tell Google and Facebook about every minor detail of their life | |||
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"I believe in tipping the individual for their service and always make sure I give the tip to them unless it was several people when I will ask if the tips are given to them and then will add to the bill. " Same here | |||
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"Do you believe the UK has become or turning into a cashless society? Nearly everyone pays with a credit card or their mobile phones, such as Apple Pay or Google Pay. What are your thoughts? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Please give reasons why you believe so It's moving that way and I don't like it. I'm old school and like cash. You can touch it when you spend it. ... and touch all that fecal matter that's on every coin and note... mmm.... " just like the people who use their phone on the loo, then walk out without washing their hands. | |||
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"Once cash has gone & they bring in a "digital currency" that's when your/our autonomy will disappear. people think a digital currency is the same as using a debit card, it isn't! They're trying to stop us eating real meat, drinking alcohol etc, once digital currency comes in, they can set up allowances to that currency, such as you're only allowed to buy £x per month on meat, or alcohol, sugary food & drink, petrol/diesel (under the ridiculous green agenda). They can't limit us with cash. If your doctor thinks this or that is bad for you, then a flag against that item can easily be put on your digital ID & stop your option to buy. Also if you want to go to a club (swingers) do you really want your bank to know? " What you have described is a social credit society its not the same as a cashless society, if the government wanted to, they could bring that in even with cash. Do you think the bank cares about that, what is it your worried they will do with that information? | |||
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"Once cash has gone & they bring in a "digital currency" that's when your/our autonomy will disappear. people think a digital currency is the same as using a debit card, it isn't! They're trying to stop us eating real meat, drinking alcohol etc, once digital currency comes in, they can set up allowances to that currency, such as you're only allowed to buy £x per month on meat, or alcohol, sugary food & drink, petrol/diesel (under the ridiculous green agenda). They can't limit us with cash. If your doctor thinks this or that is bad for you, then a flag against that item can easily be put on your digital ID & stop your option to buy. Also if you want to go to a club (swingers) do you really want your bank to know? " Catherine Austin Fitts is must go to person to learn and understand the Financial System. She's awesome. | |||
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"All money is debt " I've got some cash that I don't owe anyone | |||
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