FabSwingers.com forum: Trans Positivity Thread

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just a little trans positivity thread today! After my lesbian appreciation thread; a little trans positivity during pride month is needed!

Big shoutout to all trans people both on fab and off fab…we’re all incredible and I hope both you and I can continue to live our lives transphobia free!

TRANS PRIDE AND TRANS POWER

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

Solidarity.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Solidarity.

Always appreciated

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By *ustauseerTV/TS
over a year ago

Sedgemoor

Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

Transformer power!

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By *obby3264Man
over a year ago

Cambridge

Big UPS

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

AC/DC !!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Transformer power!"

Nobody laughed and nobody moved. Did you make that up yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

I hope one day we can live in a transphobia free world. It’s exhausting me.

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

It's cool. Sometimes you just need to change the lens through which you view the world.

Looking on here or two minutes in twitter can make you feel like being trans is a shitstorm but the vast majority of the public are ambivalent at worst. I'm very visible and so far I've had no major problems and am generally warmly welcomed in womens spaces.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's cool. Sometimes you just need to change the lens through which you view the world.

Yeah; I’ve had to mute so much on Twitter and now only just use it to talk to my friends. It’s so infuriating how transphobes are deadset on not letting us exist peacefully.

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By *ustauseerTV/TS
over a year ago

Sedgemoor

"Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

I hope one day we can live in a transphobia free world. It’s exhausting me."

I love watching the morons consistently out themselves. These people do love to expose themselves

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

"Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

I hope one day we can live in a transphobia free world. It’s exhausting me.

I love watching the morons consistently out themselves. These people do love to expose themselves"

Exposure is quite common round here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

I hope one day we can live in a transphobia free world. It’s exhausting me.

I love watching the morons consistently out themselves. These people do love to expose themselves

Exposure is quite common round here."

I don’t know how to put this nicely but you’re incredibly unfunny

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

"Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

I hope one day we can live in a transphobia free world. It’s exhausting me.

I love watching the morons consistently out themselves. These people do love to expose themselves

Exposure is quite common round here.

I don’t know how to put this nicely but you’re incredibly unfunny "

Pot calling kettle.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

I hope one day we can live in a transphobia free world. It’s exhausting me.

I love watching the morons consistently out themselves. These people do love to expose themselves

Exposure is quite common round here."

People do in fact, expose or tell on themselves all the time around here

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

Positive visibility and representation serve our cause much better than insults. We've been around for ever and are just going through our time in the spotlight at the moment.

Like every other large social justice movement, people are choosing what side of history they'll be viewed as having being on.

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

Always have lots of love for all sexy fab swingers xxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

I hope one day we can live in a transphobia free world. It’s exhausting me.

I love watching the morons consistently out themselves. These people do love to expose themselves

Exposure is quite common round here.

I don’t know how to put this nicely but you’re incredibly unfunny

Pot calling kettle."

I haven’t tried to be funny, bestie.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Positive visibility and representation serve our cause much better than insults. We've been around for ever and are just going through our time in the spotlight at the moment.

Like every other large social justice movement, people are choosing what side of history they'll be viewed as having being on."

Exactly this; thank you! And I’m happy to be on the right side of history

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Positive visibility and representation serve our cause much better than insults. We've been around for ever and are just going through our time in the spotlight at the moment.

Like every other large social justice movement, people are choosing what side of history they'll be viewed as having being on."

Absolutely.

In person I'm just the one quietly treating women as women, while (hopefully subtly) scanning the surroundings if I have reason to believe there might be additional risks to the people I'm with. (From bigots, in case that's not abundantly clear)

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

"Positive visibility and representation serve our cause much better than insults. We've been around for ever and are just going through our time in the spotlight at the moment.

Like every other large social justice movement, people are choosing what side of history they'll be viewed as having being on.

Exactly this; thank you! And I’m happy to be on the right side of history

Hitler thought that until 1942. Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

I hope one day we can live in a transphobia free world. It’s exhausting me.

I love watching the morons consistently out themselves. These people do love to expose themselves

Exposure is quite common round here.

I don’t know how to put this nicely but you’re incredibly unfunny "

He makes me laugh

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

"Trans Liberation, now, forever, always.

I hope one day we can live in a transphobia free world. It’s exhausting me.

I love watching the morons consistently out themselves. These people do love to expose themselves

Exposure is quite common round here.

I don’t know how to put this nicely but you’re incredibly unfunny

He makes me laugh

A fan! It’s all been worth it x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think perhaps (as always with these threads) people should refrain from calling people morons/thick/uneducated etc etc. Can’t speak for others but that would just lose my respect for them immediately and I wouldn’t be interested in learning from them or listening to anything interesting they had to say from that point. "

It’s just a trans positivity thread. If people aren’t positive about trans people, they have no reason to be there.

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By *ustauseerTV/TS
over a year ago

Sedgemoor

Cute how this started out as a trans positivity thread and now someone who was actively being anti-trans in another forum post is now in here…

Y’all love to expose yourselfs don’t you.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

It’s just a trans positivity thread. If people aren’t positive about trans people, they have no reason to be there. "

This was meant for another thread. Apologies

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Cute how this started out as a trans positivity thread and now someone who was actively being anti-trans in another forum post is now in here…

Y’all love to expose yourselfs don’t you."

LITERALLY! They constantly talk about how trans people are coming into ‘cis spaces’ (whatever that means) and yet constantly get into trans peoples business. It’s embarrassing.

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

To all my Trans Siblings, The Non-Binary Finery, Theydies and Gentlethems. I hope you all have a glorious day, week and beyond!

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Cute how this started out as a trans positivity thread and now someone who was actively being anti-trans in another forum post is now in here…

Y’all love to expose yourselfs don’t you.

LITERALLY! They constantly talk about how trans people are coming into ‘cis spaces’ (whatever that means) and yet constantly get into trans peoples business. It’s embarrassing. "

I deleted my comment when I realised I’d posted on the wrong thread. I would never have posted that on a positivity thread. My comment does however stand for the other thread which is now finished.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Cute how this started out as a trans positivity thread and now someone who was actively being anti-trans in another forum post is now in here…

Y’all love to expose yourselfs don’t you.

LITERALLY! They constantly talk about how trans people are coming into ‘cis spaces’ (whatever that means) and yet constantly get into trans peoples business. It’s embarrassing.

I deleted my comment when I realised I’d posted on the wrong thread. I would never have posted that on a positivity thread. My comment does however stand for the other thread which is now finished. "

Don’t worry; you’re okay! There’s just transphobes here (not you) that seem to constantly want to be in trans peoples business despite how much they hate us

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"To all my Trans Siblings, The Non-Binary Finery, Theydies and Gentlethems. I hope you all have a glorious day, week and beyond!"

I stand with my trans brothers and sisters.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Cute how this started out as a trans positivity thread and now someone who was actively being anti-trans in another forum post is now in here…

Y’all love to expose yourselfs don’t you.

LITERALLY! They constantly talk about how trans people are coming into ‘cis spaces’ (whatever that means) and yet constantly get into trans peoples business. It’s embarrassing.

I deleted my comment when I realised I’d posted on the wrong thread. I would never have posted that on a positivity thread. My comment does however stand for the other thread which is now finished.

Don’t worry; you’re okay! There’s just transphobes here (not you) that seem to constantly want to be in trans peoples business despite how much they hate us

Thanks. I’m definitely not a transphobe.

Just embarrassed I posted in the wrong thread!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Cute how this started out as a trans positivity thread and now someone who was actively being anti-trans in another forum post is now in here…

Y’all love to expose yourselfs don’t you.

LITERALLY! They constantly talk about how trans people are coming into ‘cis spaces’ (whatever that means) and yet constantly get into trans peoples business. It’s embarrassing.

I deleted my comment when I realised I’d posted on the wrong thread. I would never have posted that on a positivity thread. My comment does however stand for the other thread which is now finished.

Don’t worry; you’re okay! There’s just transphobes here (not you) that seem to constantly want to be in trans peoples business despite how much they hate us

Thanks. I’m definitely not a transphobe.

Just embarrassed I posted in the wrong thread!

Don’t worry; I’ve done it before too

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By *ustauseerTV/TS
over a year ago

Sedgemoor

"Cute how this started out as a trans positivity thread and now someone who was actively being anti-trans in another forum post is now in here…

Y’all love to expose yourselfs don’t you.

LITERALLY! They constantly talk about how trans people are coming into ‘cis spaces’ (whatever that means) and yet constantly get into trans peoples business. It’s embarrassing.

I deleted my comment when I realised I’d posted on the wrong thread. I would never have posted that on a positivity thread. My comment does however stand for the other thread which is now finished.

Don’t worry; you’re okay! There’s just transphobes here (not you) that seem to constantly want to be in trans peoples business despite how much they hate us

Thanks. I’m definitely not a transphobe.

Just embarrassed I posted in the wrong thread!

We’ve all done it don’t worry about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd love to witness the times change, when each and every one of us embrace our similarities rather than highlight our differences.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"I'd love to witness the times change, when each and every one of us embrace our similarities rather than highlight our differences.

I know, me too. Seems even further away now with new labels being added daily.

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By *ickshawedCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

You have my support to be who you are. Live and let live

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I'd love to witness the times change, when each and every one of us embrace our similarities rather than highlight our differences.

Well, you'll be delighted to hear last week More in Common released one of the largest surveys to date into public attitudes to trans people, and most people advocate for trans rights or at worst in the 'live and let live' camp.

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"I'd love to witness the times change, when each and every one of us embrace our similarities rather than highlight our differences.

I know, me too. Seems even further away now with new labels being added daily. "

The problem is that what you have done here is claim to agree and then state something problematic (I am sure unintentionally)

Labels are not the problem, having labels is not a problem, it is when people take those labels and use them to attack people that the problems occur.

Finding the labels that were right for me gave me comfort, they allowed me to process my reality better.

More labels means there are more tools for people to find that same happiness and peace.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I'd love to witness the times change, when each and every one of us embrace our similarities rather than highlight our differences.

I know, me too. Seems even further away now with new labels being added daily.

The problem is that what you have done here is claim to agree and then state something problematic (I am sure unintentionally)

Labels are not the problem, having labels is not a problem, it is when people take those labels and use them to attack people that the problems occur.

Finding the labels that were right for me gave me comfort, they allowed me to process my reality better.

More labels means there are more tools for people to find that same happiness and peace."

I've found labels enormously helpful. The only people who seem to find them divisive are those that don't need them.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Trans rights are human rights

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Trans rights are human rights

Forever and always

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Well it’s Sparkle in Manchester village in a few weeks. Trans celebration weekend. So if you’re part of the community it’s a time to be open, out and proud.

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By *al kalMan
over a year ago

london

It’s all about Respect.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Trans rights are human rights

Forever and always

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By *tagandvixen200Couple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Trans rights are human rights

Which rights do trans people not have?

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

This thread made me think of Rachel. I hope she's happy, whatever she's doing now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Trans rights are human rights

Which rights do trans people not have? "

The right to ensure that every other member of society sees them as they see themselves.

....awww, hawd oan a minute....none of us have that right.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"This thread made me think of Rachel. I hope she's happy, whatever she's doing now

I miss Rachel. She spoke a lot of sense. One person I was happy to learn a lot from

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

I have dated a few ‘trans’. The first Paula was a car sales…person. When I last spoke Paula was a guy in a dress feeling having felt previously pressurised by the ‘trans’ community to have surgery etc.

One story. One experience. But we don’t all see these things with a hive mind. Love and peace x

Oh and I loved Mel a Thai ladyboy. Should have married her/him whatever.. x

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By *tagandvixen200Couple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Trans rights are human rights

Which rights do trans people not have?

The right to ensure that every other member of society sees them as they see themselves.

....awww, hawd oan a minute....none of us have that right.

It’s delusional lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Trans rights are human rights

Which rights do trans people not have?

The right to ensure that every other member of society sees them as they see themselves.

....awww, hawd oan a minute....none of us have that right.

It’s delusional lol."

I need to think up a new name to call you...

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Ok back to the OP instead of carrying on a disagreement from another thread

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have dated a few ‘trans’. The first Paula was a car sales…person. When I last spoke Paula was a guy in a dress feeling having felt previously pressurised by the ‘trans’ community to have surgery etc.

One story. One experience. But we don’t all see these things with a hive mind. Love and peace x

Oh and I loved Mel a Thai ladyboy. Should have married her/him whatever.. x"

Actually, a lot of trans people welcome De transitioners with open arms. As long as they can respect us; we respect them. De-transitioners are often still active in the community and are welcome

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"This thread made me think of Rachel. I hope she's happy, whatever she's doing now

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

In light of Trans Positivity:

14 facts about trans lives and rights (UK based)

1. Trans people have always been around.

2. Non-binary people have always existed.

3. Trans adults started off as trans children.

4. Trans people face high levels of harassment and discrimination.

5. There is a biological basis for gender identity.

6. There is more to sex and gender than XX and XY chromosomes.

7. Trans people aren’t all attracted to women.

8. Before 1971, trans people had some access to gender recognition.

9. Trans people without a gender recognition certificate are able to access single-sex spaces and services.

10. Trans people’s right to self-determination is grounded in international best practice.

11. Non-binary people’s access to legal gender recognition is grounded in international best practice.

12. There are very few trans people in UK prisons.

13. No openly trans person has ever won an Olympic medal.

14. Most trans people are happy that they transitioned.

google "14 facts about trans lives and trans rights." if you want to read the original article with sources and citations

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"Actually, a lot of trans people welcome De transitioners with open arms. As long as they can respect us; we respect them. De-transitioners are often still active in the community and are welcome

Absolutely and the number one reason for people detransitioning is not that they think they made the wrong decision, it is the backlash they received from people in their lives for living as a transperson

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Oh for god's sake

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

As a Trans Woman I find it positive that my ability to access women only spaces is legally protected in the United Kingdom.

Even if a vocal minority wishes it were otherwise.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"As a Trans Woman I find it positive that my ability to access women only spaces is legally protected in the United Kingdom.

Even if a vocal minority wishes it were otherwise."

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"I would like to ask the mod who is in this thread, did you delete my post? "

I think the mods are deleting any of the posts not about the original topic after the post where the moderator asked people to return to the original topic... not sure if yours got caught in the crossfire

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No matter your opinion, I think coming onto a positivity thread especially during pride month and airing some of these comments is appalling and disrespectful. "

Totally agree. Just proves why we need pride month in the first place

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Actually, a lot of trans people welcome De transitioners with open arms. As long as they can respect us; we respect them. De-transitioners are often still active in the community and are welcome

What a terrible thing to have to endure, to go through the process twice because your community are so outraged that you might live in the way that makes most sense to you

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"Actually, a lot of trans people welcome De transitioners with open arms. As long as they can respect us; we respect them. De-transitioners are often still active in the community and are welcome

What a terrible thing to have to endure, to go through the process twice because your community are so outraged that you might live in the way that makes most sense to you"

yeah, some of them actually find better spaces that are accepting and become Re-Transitioners.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Actually, a lot of trans people welcome De transitioners with open arms. As long as they can respect us; we respect them. De-transitioners are often still active in the community and are welcome

What a terrible thing to have to endure, to go through the process twice because your community are so outraged that you might live in the way that makes most sense to you

yeah, some of them actually find better spaces that are accepting and become Re-Transitioners."

Oh wow.

I just can't fathom the pain, the trauma, the torment... All of which is squarely on bigotry.

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By *al kalMan
over a year ago

london

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Just a little trans positivity thread today! After my lesbian appreciation thread; a little trans positivity during pride month is needed!

Big shoutout to all trans people both on fab and off fab…we’re all incredible and I hope both you and I can continue to live our lives transphobia free!

TRANS PRIDE AND TRANS POWER

Absoulutley!

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over a year ago

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

A thought occurred to me and it definately made me happy as a Trans Woman.

Most transphobia stems from purity culture (the same culture that generates homophobia) which is a tool of the patriarchy to keep anyone but the rich and powerful at the top.

That same purity culture would by it's definition have less problems with us Trans people simply existing, than it would with any and all of the things people come to this site specifically to do...

I found it amusing anyway

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I didn't really read the other threads as literally just the opening post on the first one made me roll my eyes and go "nah, cba for this foolishness today".

But I will say that a by-product of fighting for social justice is this whole "us and them" divide that seems to have been created over the past few years. I'm a firm believer in just letting people be people, and only caring about whether their personality and morals align with mine, but sometimes I feel like certain communities are so tight knit because of their shared trauma from being stigmatised that I feel like I'm encroaching if I try to be an ally because I'm still a "them". If that makes sense?

For example I have a lot of friends that are part of the LGBTQ+ community and when I'm on nights out with them and we strike up conversations with strangers they'll sometimes ask what my sexuality is. Then when I say I'm straight I get the whole "oh but why are you at a gay bar?" thing (last time my friend saw it was about to happen and quickly went "oh she's straight but she's really cool, she just has fun anywhere").

It makes sense, and you have to do what's right for you. Good allies who are aware and supportive in whatever fashion is comfortable for them and doesn't take space from oppressed groups should always be welcome I'm any social justice movement though

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

I'm not fully cognisant or apprised of the spectrum of current terminologies around gender, sex (gametes, genitalia et al) and sexualities. I'm still learning.

But, whenever I am acquainted for the very first time with someone, some person, anyone, whomever, I am not averse to being told/informed about their distinction (when or where appropriate).

It's a non-issue for me and once the introduction is complete we can focus on the every day normal stuff such as laughter, debate, paying bills, drinking tea and wondering why toast always falls buttered side down....and celebrating Pride!

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

"Good allies who are aware and supportive in whatever fashion is comfortable for them and doesn't take space from oppressed groups should always be welcome I'm any social justice movement though

Yes completely

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