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"He's set the Toan. ^ Does this mean you totally agree with me? " Nah. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. " How do your kids know what a greasy McDonalds tastes like  | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. How do your kids know what a greasy McDonalds tastes like "Really now. They don't know. That's our job, is to lead them in straight. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. " Thank fuck you aren't near power. I dislike fast food but you seem deadset against personal choice. C | |||
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"Maybe Boris you should make you the Food Zhar....  "On a serious note, if I was 'prime minister/president' I'd tax all soft drinks (that contain more than 1 spoon of sugar) under the same category as alcohol. There I hope that's satisfed you. | |||
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"How benefit parents going to feed there children" You can buy healthy food quite cheaply. By fruit and veg from a market. It just takes a little time and planning. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. How do your kids know what a greasy McDonalds tastes like
Really now. They don't know. That's our job, is to lead them in straight. "So where does the judgement about kids preferring McDonalds comes from then? They have it because parents feed it, and that is their choice, how do you differentiate between McDonalds as a lifestyle choice and parents taking their children for an occasional treat? Everything in moderation is my belief | |||
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"Do you think they should tax chocolate heavily?" Honestly? Well chocolates should be made with low fat and sugar sugar that is good for your teeth. Otherwise yes it should be taxed just like alcohol and tobaccos. | |||
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"How benefit parents going to feed there children" Same way I did when I was on benefits. Go to the supermarket, buy fruit, vegetables and cheap sausages, pies, fish fingers, minced beef and make them meals. My kids didn't have McDonalds when I had little money. We also didn't have biscuits, cakes or crisps in the cupboard all the time. I got them to eat fruit and vegetables by putting them in front of them at dinner time and they ate them. They went off things as they got older, then started eating them again. My children all ate raw tomatoes as children but won't eat them now. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. " We either have weird kids, or feeding them fruits and vegetables as soon as they could eat it, is paying off. Not sure how long it will last, they’re not teenagers yet | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. How do your kids know what a greasy McDonalds tastes like
Really now. They don't know. That's our job, is to lead them in straight.
So where does the judgement about kids preferring McDonalds comes from then? They have it because parents feed it, and that is their choice, how do you differentiate between McDonalds as a lifestyle choice and parents taking their children for an occasional treat?
Everything in moderation is my belief"It's that so called 'occasional treat' that is the beginning of corrupting the young minds | |||
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"Do you think they should tax chocolate heavily? Honestly? Well chocolates should be made with low fat and sugar sugar that is good for your teeth. Otherwise yes it should be taxed just like alcohol and tobaccos. " Do you want to ban anything else that people enjoy? | |||
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"How benefit parents going to feed there children You can buy healthy food quite cheaply. By fruit and veg from a market. It just takes a little time and planning. " I was joking | |||
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"How benefit parents going to feed there children You can buy healthy food quite cheaply. By fruit and veg from a market. It just takes a little time and planning. " You 'took the words right out of my mouth'. People can afford cigarettes and alcohol yet they claim that they cannot afford carrots and cabbage ect. .. | |||
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"How benefit parents going to feed there children You can buy healthy food quite cheaply. By fruit and veg from a market. It just takes a little time and planning. I was joking" I don't understand why people struggling on benefits are the butt of peoples' jokes. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. We either have weird kids, or feeding them fruits and vegetables as soon as they could eat it, is paying off. Not sure how long it will last, they’re not teenagers yet "Our son ate a very healthy diet as a child. We didn't buy fast food etc and never had takeaways. He's 19 now and uses Deliveroo etc far more often than I'd like and gets McDonald's breakfast after finishing work at bizarre hours of the morning. I'm hoping the novelty will wear off and he'll realise how much money he could save by bringing his own food for after work etc. He can cook really well, so that's not an issue for him. | |||
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"How benefit parents going to feed there children You can buy healthy food quite cheaply. By fruit and veg from a market. It just takes a little time and planning. You 'took the words right out of my mouth'. People can afford cigarettes and alcohol yet they claim that they cannot afford carrots and cabbage ect. .. " How many of these people do you actually know? | |||
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"How benefit parents going to feed there children You can buy healthy food quite cheaply. By fruit and veg from a market. It just takes a little time and planning. I was joking I don't understand why people struggling on benefits are the butt of peoples' jokes. " I'm single parent and get benefits. I don't feed my child McDonald but some parents don't know how to do it | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. We either have weird kids, or feeding them fruits and vegetables as soon as they could eat it, is paying off. Not sure how long it will last, they’re not teenagers yet
Our son ate a very healthy diet as a child. We didn't buy fast food etc and never had takeaways. He's 19 now and uses Deliveroo etc far more often than I'd like and gets McDonald's breakfast after finishing work at bizarre hours of the morning. I'm hoping the novelty will wear off and he'll realise how much money he could save by bringing his own food for after work etc. He can cook really well, so that's not an issue for him. "It might wear off once he starts reading medical articles about unhealthy food he finds on his pillow every night. My son goes from one extreme to the other. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. How do your kids know what a greasy McDonalds tastes like
Really now. They don't know. That's our job, is to lead them in straight.
So where does the judgement about kids preferring McDonalds comes from then? They have it because parents feed it, and that is their choice, how do you differentiate between McDonalds as a lifestyle choice and parents taking their children for an occasional treat?
Everything in moderation is my belief
It's that so called 'occasional treat' that is the beginning of corrupting the young minds "Not in my experience it isn't. However deprivation of it can have more of a negative impact because they may rebel against it later in life, especially when having peer influences. They will be exposed to it in one way or another My sons are 28 and 26 and yes I did take them out for fast food treats on occasion and for their birthdays etc, but they also had home cooked meals with lots of fruit and veg...you can have a balance | |||
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"How benefit parents going to feed there children You can buy healthy food quite cheaply. By fruit and veg from a market. It just takes a little time and planning. I was joking I don't understand why people struggling on benefits are the butt of peoples' jokes. I'm single parent and get benefits. I don't feed my child McDonald but some parents don't know how to do it" Maybe parents with learning difficulties might not know, but I'm guessing most do, but might have fussy eaters like Toan. I've known many people on benefits and very few have put their cigarettes or alcohol above feeding their children fruit and vegetables. Some people, even well off ones, have trouble getting children to eat healthy food. Maybe it's because they have given them too many nicer options. | |||
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"How benefit parents going to feed there children You can buy healthy food quite cheaply. By fruit and veg from a market. It just takes a little time and planning. I was joking" That makes the comment worse imho. I am sure there are a lot of people on benefits who did not choose to be there. Nothing funny in that | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. " I disagree. There are bigger challenges. Like supporting four children for the six months they know their dad is dying of cancer and then bringing them up on your own afterwards. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. How do your kids know what a greasy McDonalds tastes like
Really now. They don't know. That's our job, is to lead them in straight.
So where does the judgement about kids preferring McDonalds comes from then? They have it because parents feed it, and that is their choice, how do you differentiate between McDonalds as a lifestyle choice and parents taking their children for an occasional treat?
Everything in moderation is my belief
It's that so called 'occasional treat' that is the beginning of corrupting the young minds
Not in my experience it isn't. However deprivation of it can have more of a negative impact because they may rebel against it later in life, especially when having peer influences. They will be exposed to it in one way or another
My sons are 28 and 26 and yes I did take them out for fast food treats on occasion and for their birthdays etc, but they also had home cooked meals with lots of fruit and veg...you can have a balance "My children had sweets, crisp, fizzy drinks etc on a Friday night when daddy got paid. During the week I brought them a banana or apple to eat on the way home from school, unless it was hot and I brought them an ice pole to eat on the 20 minute walk home. None of them had a filling until they were older teenagers and none were, and still aren't obese. They were out a lot, playing on the street outside my house, or dancing, football, cricket etc, so burnt off any calories from treats. I rarely see groups of children playing out now. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. I disagree. There are bigger challenges. Like supporting four children for the six months they know their dad is dying of cancer and then bringing them up on your own afterwards. " That must have been so hard to do. Hats off to anyone going through something like that. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. I disagree. There are bigger challenges. Like supporting four children for the six months they know their dad is dying of cancer and then bringing them up on your own afterwards. " Sally we're talking about daily challenges that all adults go through. Your challenge is in a totally different department. Stay with the plot. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. How do your kids know what a greasy McDonalds tastes like
Really now. They don't know. That's our job, is to lead them in straight.
So where does the judgement about kids preferring McDonalds comes from then? They have it because parents feed it, and that is their choice, how do you differentiate between McDonalds as a lifestyle choice and parents taking their children for an occasional treat?
Everything in moderation is my belief
It's that so called 'occasional treat' that is the beginning of corrupting the young minds
Not in my experience it isn't. However deprivation of it can have more of a negative impact because they may rebel against it later in life, especially when having peer influences. They will be exposed to it in one way or another
My sons are 28 and 26 and yes I did take them out for fast food treats on occasion and for their birthdays etc, but they also had home cooked meals with lots of fruit and veg...you can have a balance
My children had sweets, crisp, fizzy drinks etc on a Friday night when daddy got paid.
During the week I brought them a banana or apple to eat on the way home from school, unless it was hot and I brought them an ice pole to eat on the 20 minute walk home. None of them had a filling until they were older teenagers and none were, and still aren't obese.
They were out a lot, playing on the street outside my house, or dancing, football, cricket etc, so burnt off any calories from treats.
I rarely see groups of children playing out now."Sounds like my house. And yep, you make a good point about kids and playing out. Mine were out a lot, eldest played sports at clubs. Like you say you just don't see it now | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. I disagree. There are bigger challenges. Like supporting four children for the six months they know their dad is dying of cancer and then bringing them up on your own afterwards. "  | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. I disagree. There are bigger challenges. Like supporting four children for the six months they know their dad is dying of cancer and then bringing them up on your own afterwards. Sally we're talking about daily challenges that all adults go through. Your challenge is in a totally different department. Stay with the plot." But Sally's experience is relative to the 'plot' she is offering another viewpoint and saying that nor everything is black an white | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. " You want Boris to legislate something that ought to be a parental responsibility? Weird, on a number of levels | |||
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"I have read that a really good way of bringing up babies so they end up eating what they should is with breastfeeding. Apparently if the mother has a good diet, the flavours of what she eats end up in her milk and the babies grow used to it. That's how our children were brought up and we haven't really had any issues with what they eat. My ex-wife was also a pretty good cook so food we had at home was pretty good and they would pizza on a Friday as a special treat. McDonald's had a proper rival in Mum. It won't work for everybody of course, and you can't turn back the clock, but we've done OK and that's the path we followed. I couldn't say for sure how much that was the reason. I just know where we are now. " That's pretty much our experience too xx | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. I disagree. There are bigger challenges. Like supporting four children for the six months they know their dad is dying of cancer and then bringing them up on your own afterwards. Sally we're talking about daily challenges that all adults go through. Your challenge is in a totally different department. Stay with the plot." She's pointing out that getting children to eat certain foods pales into insignificance when you compare to actual life challenges. Have you thought about why your children won't eat fruit and vegetables? | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. I disagree. There are bigger challenges. Like supporting four children for the six months they know their dad is dying of cancer and then bringing them up on your own afterwards. Sally we're talking about daily challenges that all adults go through. Your challenge is in a totally different department. Stay with the plot." For someone trying to look as if you care about what children eat you certainly came across as callous and cruel in that comment.. Uncalled for.. | |||
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"Labelling food as good or bad is the easiest way to an eating disorder lol " Oh come now, it's not rocket science to know that taking children to fast food place regularly rather than feeding children with fresh home cooked food is healthier. We as adults know this, but young minds don't. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. " In an ideal world you’d like your children to eat healthy and lots of fruit and veg. But you have to factor in that some children simply can’t or won’t for various reasons, autism can play a huge part in food choices for example. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. I disagree. There are bigger challenges. Like supporting four children for the six months they know their dad is dying of cancer and then bringing them up on your own afterwards. Sally we're talking about daily challenges that all adults go through. Your challenge is in a totally different department. Stay with the plot. But Sally's experience is relative to the 'plot' she is offering another viewpoint and saying that nor everything is black an white" She's not sticking to the plot but deflecting from it. What she is going through is a totally different matter. | |||
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"Labelling food as good or bad is the easiest way to an eating disorder lol Oh come now, it's not rocket science to know that taking children to fast food place regularly rather than feeding children with fresh home cooked food is healthier. We as adults know this, but young minds don't. " Okay…but labelling food as good or bad leads children AND adults to feel guilty when they eat the ‘bad’ food, deprive themselves of the ‘bad’ food (when a diet should consist of all of them), binge when they do get the ‘bad’ food, struggle with the calories of the ‘bad’ food and restrict themselves or worse, throw up after eating. There’s so many other reasons and it’s the easiest way to an eating disorder; and I should know. Kids are active, they run around lots, they play, a parent taking a child to McDonald’s for dinner regularly is hardly anyones business but theirs. The parent might be unwell, the child might be autistic and may only eat that (which is better than nothing), the parent might be only able to afford that…there’s a multitude of reasons why they might do that. It’s not our place to judge. | |||
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" Oh come now, it's not rocket science to know that taking children to fast food place regularly rather than feeding children with fresh home cooked food is healthier. " Toan, have you just changed sides in the debate ? | |||
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"All things in moderation, even moderation! I enjoy a McDonald’s every now and then - it’s lovely as an occasional treat. My kids are the same. When traveling their loos can be a godsend. " Yes macdonalds is famous for their free loos. | |||
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" Oh come now, it's not rocket science to know that taking children to fast food place regularly rather than feeding children with fresh home cooked food is healthier. Toan, have you just changed sides in the debate ?" My wording was slightly wrong. But you know what I'm saying Sally. | |||
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"Labelling food as good or bad is the easiest way to an eating disorder lol Oh come now, it's not rocket science to know that taking children to fast food place regularly rather than feeding children with fresh home cooked food is healthier. We as adults know this, but young minds don't. " And very few parents actually do this. It's a weak argument for taxing unhealthy food. Some parents who don't cook from scratch are usually single parents with very little spare time. If you're exhausted after work and you have an option of cooking from scratch or putting a pie in the over with some chips and frozen veg or beans I'll take the latter every time. | |||
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"All things in moderation, even moderation! I enjoy a McDonald’s every now and then - it’s lovely as an occasional treat. My kids are the same. When traveling their loos can be a godsend. Yes macdonalds is famous for their free loos. " And Internet. | |||
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"All things in moderation, even moderation! I enjoy a McDonald’s every now and then - it’s lovely as an occasional treat. My kids are the same. When traveling their loos can be a godsend. Yes macdonalds is famous for their free loos. And Internet." Please don't use the free Internet as an excuse to go there. There should be no excuses to take children to these places. Unless they were starving of hunger and there was no food for 100's of miles. | |||
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"All things in moderation, even moderation! I enjoy a McDonald’s every now and then - it’s lovely as an occasional treat. My kids are the same. When traveling their loos can be a godsend. Yes macdonalds is famous for their free loos. And Internet. Please don't use the free Internet as an excuse to go there. There should be no excuses to take children to these places. Unless they were starving of hunger and there was no food for 100's of miles. " You're so funny at times. I wasn't talking about taking children to McDonald's just to use their Internet, any more than you were talking about taking them just to use the toilets. | |||
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"Poor parenting leads to ‘picky’ children. You can raise children to enjoy both! We should NOT make everything too expensive or ‘hidden’ to make up for poor parenting? Too many parents are too busy with their lives (working, socialising) that convenience becomes the easier option. It’s not the government responsibility to bring up our children!!!" We have two kids. One would eat anything put in front of them the other wouldn't. I can't believe we were poor parents to one and not the other | |||
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"Our son ate very little. It didn't matter what I did, he would drink water or squash to stave off hunger. One day I took his tee shirt off when we were out somewhere playing and he was so thin, I could see his ribs. After that I just gave him what I knew he would eat which was basically chips, baked beans and apples. Very occasionally we took them to McDonald's and he'd eat that, when we were in France that's all he ate. I don't really care what anybody else thinks but when he was a kid it didn't stop random people from giving me their advice. This included quite seriously suggesting that I 'starve him into eating'. " We had this problem with our oldest and our health visitor told us to feed him whatever he will eat. Luckily he’s always loved fruit but is really picky with normal foods. | |||
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"Our son ate very little. It didn't matter what I did, he would drink water or squash to stave off hunger. One day I took his tee shirt off when we were out somewhere playing and he was so thin, I could see his ribs. After that I just gave him what I knew he would eat which was basically chips, baked beans and apples. Very occasionally we took them to McDonald's and he'd eat that, when we were in France that's all he ate. I don't really care what anybody else thinks but when he was a kid it didn't stop random people from giving me their advice. This included quite seriously suggesting that I 'starve him into eating'. We had this problem with our oldest and our health visitor told us to feed him whatever he will eat. Luckily he’s always loved fruit but is really picky with normal foods." A doctor and a nurse told me exactly the same. He eats like a horse now. | |||
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"Poor parenting leads to ‘picky’ children. You can raise children to enjoy both! We should NOT make everything too expensive or ‘hidden’ to make up for poor parenting? Too many parents are too busy with their lives (working, socialising) that convenience becomes the easier option. It’s not the government responsibility to bring up our children!!!" Of course it's not the governments job to bring up 'our children'. But it is parents responsibility for their health and well being. Is it not? | |||
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"I have read that a really good way of bringing up babies so they end up eating what they should is with breastfeeding. Apparently if the mother has a good diet, the flavours of what she eats end up in her milk and the babies grow used to it. That's how our children were brought up and we haven't really had any issues with what they eat. My ex-wife was also a pretty good cook so food we had at home was pretty good and they would pizza on a Friday as a special treat. McDonald's had a proper rival in Mum. It won't work for everybody of course, and you can't turn back the clock, but we've done OK and that's the path we followed. I couldn't say for sure how much that was the reason. I just know where we are now. " I breastfed both of my boys and they still became fussy eaters, most veggies are a no go, but they both eat copious amounts of variety of fruit so it balances out. OP if your kids are craving McDonalds over real food,stop taking them to McDonalds would be my advice | |||
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"Poor parenting leads to ‘picky’ children. You can raise children to enjoy both! We should NOT make everything too expensive or ‘hidden’ to make up for poor parenting? Too many parents are too busy with their lives (working, socialising) that convenience becomes the easier option. It’s not the government responsibility to bring up our children!!! Of course it's not the governments job to bring up 'our children'. But it is parents responsibility for their health and well being. Is it not?" Yes. Which includes not allowing them to become underweight by refusing to feed them | |||
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" I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson " You’re not, but if you were I’d direct you to the politics forum. | |||
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"Toan have you got children ?" • He's got six. And all of them conceived during a chicken nuggets Happy Meal™ romantic encounter. | |||
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But I have siblings and cousins whose kids I have watched growing up. I have seen how kids take to junk food. | |||
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"Our son ate very little. It didn't matter what I did, he would drink water or squash to stave off hunger. One day I took his tee shirt off when we were out somewhere playing and he was so thin, I could see his ribs. After that I just gave him what I knew he would eat which was basically chips, baked beans and apples. Very occasionally we took them to McDonald's and he'd eat that, when we were in France that's all he ate. I don't really care what anybody else thinks but when he was a kid it didn't stop random people from giving me their advice. This included quite seriously suggesting that I 'starve him into eating'. We had this problem with our oldest and our health visitor told us to feed him whatever he will eat. Luckily he’s always loved fruit but is really picky with normal foods. A doctor and a nurse told me exactly the same. He eats like a horse now." We’ve managed to find 4 meals he enjoys and we just rotate them and he gets a treat on weekends. He’s getting better at trying things now so hopefully he’ll grow out of it completely. | |||
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"I have read that a really good way of bringing up babies so they end up eating what they should is with breastfeeding. Apparently if the mother has a good diet, the flavours of what she eats end up in her milk and the babies grow used to it. That's how our children were brought up and we haven't really had any issues with what they eat. My ex-wife was also a pretty good cook so food we had at home was pretty good and they would pizza on a Friday as a special treat. McDonald's had a proper rival in Mum. It won't work for everybody of course, and you can't turn back the clock, but we've done OK and that's the path we followed. I couldn't say for sure how much that was the reason. I just know where we are now. I breastfed both of my boys and they still became fussy eaters, most veggies are a no go, but they both eat copious amounts of variety of fruit so it balances out. OP if your kids are craving McDonalds over real food,stop taking them to McDonalds would be my advice" People talk as if all babies and children are the same. We have identical twin babies in the family and one eats anything they are given, but the other will clamp their mouth closed and reluctantly eat the same things, except desserts/yoghurt which are wolfed down. Whereas, anything savoury is eaten very slowly, and it's difficult to get the food in their mouth. | |||
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" I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson You’re not, but if you were I’d direct you to the politics forum. "Fab actually has political forum all to itself? Well I'm not being funny but who wants to talk about politics on a Sunday? I only added Boris Johnson because if he talked about this in his job he'd highly likely get my approval. | |||
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"Our son ate very little. It didn't matter what I did, he would drink water or squash to stave off hunger. One day I took his tee shirt off when we were out somewhere playing and he was so thin, I could see his ribs. After that I just gave him what I knew he would eat which was basically chips, baked beans and apples. Very occasionally we took them to McDonald's and he'd eat that, when we were in France that's all he ate. I don't really care what anybody else thinks but when he was a kid it didn't stop random people from giving me their advice. This included quite seriously suggesting that I 'starve him into eating'. We had this problem with our oldest and our health visitor told us to feed him whatever he will eat. Luckily he’s always loved fruit but is really picky with normal foods. A doctor and a nurse told me exactly the same. He eats like a horse now. We’ve managed to find 4 meals he enjoys and we just rotate them and he gets a treat on weekends. He’s getting better at trying things now so hopefully he’ll grow out of it completely." I was a very skinny kid and didn't like much food. My parents used to argue about me not eating because my dad wanted to make me eat. I got better as I got older but I remember hating Heinz beans and cabbage in particular. I'm now 9 stone overweight and love cabbage. | |||
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" I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson You’re not, but if you were I’d direct you to the politics forum.
Fab actually has political forum all to itself? Well I'm not being funny but who wants to talk about politics on a Sunday? I only added Boris Johnson because if he talked about this in his job he'd highly likely get my approval. "How would taxing food help you feed your children fruit and vegetables? | |||
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"Maybe Boris you should make you the Food Zhar....
On a serious note, if I was 'prime minister/president' I'd tax all soft drinks (that contain more than 1 spoon of sugar) under the same category as alcohol.
There I hope that's satisfed you. "Would you also limit how much sugar people put in tea and coffee? Just bring back rationing | |||
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"Maybe Boris you should make you the Food Zhar....
On a serious note, if I was 'prime minister/president' I'd tax all soft drinks (that contain more than 1 spoon of sugar) under the same category as alcohol.
There I hope that's satisfed you.
Would you also limit how much sugar people put in tea and coffee?
Just bring back rationing "Really now, who do you really know puts 9 to 20 spoons of sugar in their tea or coffee? Because that is how much sugar are in soft drinks. Which is so bad for young tooths and health. | |||
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"Our son ate very little. It didn't matter what I did, he would drink water or squash to stave off hunger. One day I took his tee shirt off when we were out somewhere playing and he was so thin, I could see his ribs. After that I just gave him what I knew he would eat which was basically chips, baked beans and apples. Very occasionally we took them to McDonald's and he'd eat that, when we were in France that's all he ate. I don't really care what anybody else thinks but when he was a kid it didn't stop random people from giving me their advice. This included quite seriously suggesting that I 'starve him into eating'. We had this problem with our oldest and our health visitor told us to feed him whatever he will eat. Luckily he’s always loved fruit but is really picky with normal foods. A doctor and a nurse told me exactly the same. He eats like a horse now. We’ve managed to find 4 meals he enjoys and we just rotate them and he gets a treat on weekends. He’s getting better at trying things now so hopefully he’ll grow out of it completely. I was a very skinny kid and didn't like much food. My parents used to argue about me not eating because my dad wanted to make me eat. I got better as I got older but I remember hating Heinz beans and cabbage in particular. I'm now 9 stone overweight and love cabbage. " I was picky too. I remember hating lasagne and now it’s one of my favourite foods. | |||
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"I don’t eat fruit veg salad or pulses or cereal So each to there own" Do you worry about scurvy  | |||
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"Maybe Boris you should make you the Food Zhar....
On a serious note, if I was 'prime minister/president' I'd tax all soft drinks (that contain more than 1 spoon of sugar) under the same category as alcohol.
There I hope that's satisfed you.
Would you also limit how much sugar people put in tea and coffee?
Just bring back rationing
Really now, who do you really know puts 9 to 20 spoons of sugar in their tea or coffee? Because that is how much sugar are in soft drinks. Which is so bad for young tooths and health. "Where's the empirical data to support your statement that the kids in the UK are binging on Mcds. ? The kids I see in everyday life look very fit and healthy. It's not the Government responsibility to look after us from cradle to the grave. No more taxes.....  | |||
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"A little bit of what they fancy is ok. If you put something off limits they will want it more." Yes your argument is totally correct. However why is it that ciggs and alcohol are taxed yet other things which is just as detrimental to one's health should not come under the same category? | |||
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"I don’t eat fruit veg salad or pulses or cereal So each to there own" Is it the texture or taste you don't like? We had a half split on barley when my kids were all at home, so I used to boil it separately then add it to my stews once I dished up the non-barley eaters' dinners. | |||
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" However why is it that ciggs and alcohol are taxed yet other things which is just as detrimental to one's health should not come under the same category? " Alcohol in moderation is actually beneficial | |||
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"All we ever hear, it's "generational" let them get on with it.... " The eating habits of the older generation are not as healthy as people assume. My Dad will be 83 next week. He refuses to eat "rabbit food" aka salad. He likes to drink Bovril (loaded with salt) and eats cheese and biscuits with his (considerable volume of) red wine. Yet, he's managed to make it this far. | |||
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"All we ever hear, it's "generational" let them get on with it.... The eating habits of the older generation are not as healthy as people assume. My Dad will be 83 next week. He refuses to eat "rabbit food" aka salad. He likes to drink Bovril (loaded with salt) and eats cheese and biscuits with his (considerable volume of) red wine. Yet, he's managed to make it this far. " Yep. My remaining grandparent is 96 and my dad tells me how she used to eat sugar sandwiches and whipped cream straight from the bowl. My grandparents on the other side were a bit younger but ate a lot of cakes and boiled sweets. | |||
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"All we ever hear, it's "generational" let them get on with it.... The eating habits of the older generation are not as healthy as people assume. My Dad will be 83 next week. He refuses to eat "rabbit food" aka salad. He likes to drink Bovril (loaded with salt) and eats cheese and biscuits with his (considerable volume of) red wine. Yet, he's managed to make it this far. Yep. My remaining grandparent is 96 and my dad tells me how she used to eat sugar sandwiches and whipped cream straight from the bowl. My grandparents on the other side were a bit younger but ate a lot of cakes and boiled sweets. " Some people can getaway with a unhealthy diet. But as a general rule 'what you eat is what you are' physically that is. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. How do your kids know what a greasy McDonalds tastes like
Really now. They don't know. That's our job, is to lead them in straight.
So where does the judgement about kids preferring McDonalds comes from then? They have it because parents feed it, and that is their choice, how do you differentiate between McDonalds as a lifestyle choice and parents taking their children for an occasional treat?
Everything in moderation is my belief
It's that so called 'occasional treat' that is the beginning of corrupting the young minds "What was the occasional treat that has turned you into this? | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. " How can any right minded parents put cakes and biscuits in a child's lunch box? Why that's a crime in it's own right. Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. " You don't have any "little ones" do you? You just got bored of using workmates for bait. | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. " It's a wonder we're not all stuck on diets of baby food and petit filous. | |||
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"Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. " Have you considered this for your own packed lunch, rather than a tin of cold soup ? | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. How can any right minded parents put cakes and biscuits in a child's lunch box? Why that's a crime in it's own right. Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. " What if they're like your children who don't eat fruit | |||
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"All we ever hear, it's "generational" let them get on with it.... The eating habits of the older generation are not as healthy as people assume. My Dad will be 83 next week. He refuses to eat "rabbit food" aka salad. He likes to drink Bovril (loaded with salt) and eats cheese and biscuits with his (considerable volume of) red wine. Yet, he's managed to make it this far. Yep. My remaining grandparent is 96 and my dad tells me how she used to eat sugar sandwiches and whipped cream straight from the bowl. My grandparents on the other side were a bit younger but ate a lot of cakes and boiled sweets. Some people can getaway with a unhealthy diet. But as a general rule 'what you eat is what you are' physically that is. " This was no a suggestion to eat that way. It was adding to the comment about whether previous generations ate healthier and my experience is that they did not. | |||
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"I don’t eat fruit veg salad or pulses or cereal So each to there own Do you worry about scurvy "I’m in my 50s so it’s not a worry | |||
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"I don’t eat fruit veg salad or pulses or cereal So each to there own Is it the texture or taste you don't like? We had a half split on barley when my kids were all at home, so I used to boil it separately then add it to my stews once I dished up the non-barley eaters' dinners. " It’s both I don’t eat stews soups or curry’s etc either | |||
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"All we ever hear, it's "generational" let them get on with it.... The eating habits of the older generation are not as healthy as people assume. My Dad will be 83 next week. He refuses to eat "rabbit food" aka salad. He likes to drink Bovril (loaded with salt) and eats cheese and biscuits with his (considerable volume of) red wine. Yet, he's managed to make it this far. Yep. My remaining grandparent is 96 and my dad tells me how she used to eat sugar sandwiches and whipped cream straight from the bowl. My grandparents on the other side were a bit younger but ate a lot of cakes and boiled sweets. Some people can getaway with a unhealthy diet. But as a general rule 'what you eat is what you are' physically that is. This was no a suggestion to eat that way. It was adding to the comment about whether previous generations ate healthier and my experience is that they did not. " Maybe the previous generation got away with eating unhealthy because they made up for all the excess energy(fat and sugar) because back then people weren't glued to modern technology but actually were more active in their life style. Look at kids these days. It's home from school and straight onto the computers. | |||
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"Our son ate very little. It didn't matter what I did, he would drink water or squash to stave off hunger. One day I took his tee shirt off when we were out somewhere playing and he was so thin, I could see his ribs. After that I just gave him what I knew he would eat which was basically chips, baked beans and apples. Very occasionally we took them to McDonald's and he'd eat that, when we were in France that's all he ate. I don't really care what anybody else thinks but when he was a kid it didn't stop random people from giving me their advice. This included quite seriously suggesting that I 'starve him into eating'. We had this problem with our oldest and our health visitor told us to feed him whatever he will eat. Luckily he’s always loved fruit but is really picky with normal foods. A doctor and a nurse told me exactly the same. He eats like a horse now. We’ve managed to find 4 meals he enjoys and we just rotate them and he gets a treat on weekends. He’s getting better at trying things now so hopefully he’ll grow out of it completely." Our son did. I never forget the day I sat opposite him while he ate a bowl of moules marinière. | |||
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"All we ever hear, it's "generational" let them get on with it.... The eating habits of the older generation are not as healthy as people assume. My Dad will be 83 next week. He refuses to eat "rabbit food" aka salad. He likes to drink Bovril (loaded with salt) and eats cheese and biscuits with his (considerable volume of) red wine. Yet, he's managed to make it this far. Yep. My remaining grandparent is 96 and my dad tells me how she used to eat sugar sandwiches and whipped cream straight from the bowl. My grandparents on the other side were a bit younger but ate a lot of cakes and boiled sweets. Some people can getaway with a unhealthy diet. But as a general rule 'what you eat is what you are' physically that is. This was no a suggestion to eat that way. It was adding to the comment about whether previous generations ate healthier and my experience is that they did not. Maybe the previous generation got away with eating unhealthy because they made up for all the excess energy(fat and sugar) because back then people weren't glued to modern technology but actually were more active in their life style. Look at kids these days. It's home from school and straight onto the computers. " My nan was a housewife who couldn't cook and my grandad also employed a cleaner to come in every day . I love my nan but I would never describe her as active. | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds. I'm not being funny, but if I was Boris Johnson I'd put All the fast food chains under the same category as cigarettes and alcohol. You have to be over 18 and it's tax heavily too. And any one who dares to take minors to such establishments should be given a fine likend to a speeding fine. Okay that's my Sunday rant. " Do you actually have kids? Mine enjoy a macdonalds and other takeaways for that matter on occasion. But they also eat plenty of fruit and veg and a reasonably balanced diet. Because that's the work I'VE put into raising them. Take responsibility for your own kids diets. Educating people properly rather than baking scones/pizza/cookies (actually my daughter's July line up for food tech!!!) Would help with basic diet understanding. | |||
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"I have read that a really good way of bringing up babies so they end up eating what they should is with breastfeeding. Apparently if the mother has a good diet, the flavours of what she eats end up in her milk and the babies grow used to it. That's how our children were brought up and we haven't really had any issues with what they eat. My ex-wife was also a pretty good cook so food we had at home was pretty good and they would pizza on a Friday as a special treat. McDonald's had a proper rival in Mum. It won't work for everybody of course, and you can't turn back the clock, but we've done OK and that's the path we followed. I couldn't say for sure how much that was the reason. I just know where we are now. " Makes sense. | |||
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"Our son ate very little. It didn't matter what I did, he would drink water or squash to stave off hunger. One day I took his tee shirt off when we were out somewhere playing and he was so thin, I could see his ribs. After that I just gave him what I knew he would eat which was basically chips, baked beans and apples. Very occasionally we took them to McDonald's and he'd eat that, when we were in France that's all he ate. I don't really care what anybody else thinks but when he was a kid it didn't stop random people from giving me their advice. This included quite seriously suggesting that I 'starve him into eating'. " ---I was like that apparently. My parents were so afraid of disrupting my miserable appetite they used to let me eat with my hands. So I literally ate like a feral animal till I was about 7 I think. It wasn't good food though sadly, and it was the 1970's too. I was so skinny! As a teen I developed a massive metabolism, yet even-now I rarely put on any weight. Don't get me wrong, I will stuff my guts on occasions and look like I swallowed a dinner gong - but give me a day to two and it's gone. I only get it around the middle you see, the rest of me is as thin as a lamb. That must have come from my childhood. ---pt | |||
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"All we ever hear, it's "generational" let them get on with it.... The eating habits of the older generation are not as healthy as people assume. My Dad will be 83 next week. He refuses to eat "rabbit food" aka salad. He likes to drink Bovril (loaded with salt) and eats cheese and biscuits with his (considerable volume of) red wine. Yet, he's managed to make it this far. " --The biggest factors in out longevity are; a) our individual genetic makeup (not necessarily inherited) b) stress avoidance (as stress is such a killer) c) how well we eat above the average diet What we eat gives us a huge advantage in fighting things off though! The verdict is out on exactly how much fruit/fibre and vegetables help us live longer in-and-of-themselves, but it's when we are in trouble that they factor most. And the odds are reasonable that we will encounter problems in our lives, esp if we inhale pollutants, or drink and smoke etc. So it makes sense to eat well too. My old dad (gone now) was told by doctors that what he ate when he was a kid effected his need for a heart bi-pass around the age of 60. He really did grow up with nothing in the 1920's. Not to copy his own dad, he never drank or smoked, but unfortunately he never ate particular well either, or bought particularly good food (only much later in life). Ultimately he nearly paid the price. He had a good operation though (as it happened early enough), and lived into his 80's in the end. He was a cheery sort over-all, which probably helped him too. --pt | |||
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"No! People should be responsible parents that’s what needs to happen. Not taking everyone else’s choices and treats away because some parents give in to everything! " Nora once again you are soooo right. As adults we should all take full responsibilities for the little ones health. | |||
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"No! People should be responsible parents that’s what needs to happen. Not taking everyone else’s choices and treats away because some parents give in to everything! " I agree. I already pay a premium for the one bottle of full fat cola I buy a year. Unfortunately all the education and advice in the world doesn't change habits unless it's accompanied by financial incentives. | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. How can any right minded parents put cakes and biscuits in a child's lunch box? Why that's a crime in it's own right. Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. " Ohh dear! They need flogging!! Face palm ! | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. How can any right minded parents put cakes and biscuits in a child's lunch box? Why that's a crime in it's own right. Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. Ohh dear! They need flogging!! Face palm ! "They need a lot more than flogging for this crime! | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. How can any right minded parents put cakes and biscuits in a child's lunch box? Why that's a crime in it's own right. Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. Ohh dear! They need flogging!! Face palm !
They need a lot more than flogging for this crime! "Pmsl! X | |||
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"Do you think they should tax chocolate heavily? Honestly? Well chocolates should be made with low fat and sugar sugar that is good for your teeth. Otherwise yes it should be taxed just like alcohol and tobaccos. " I think you just come on here to get peoples backs up - you love an argument then leave when it does above your head | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. I disagree. There are bigger challenges. Like supporting four children for the six months they know their dad is dying of cancer and then bringing them up on your own afterwards. Sally we're talking about daily challenges that all adults go through. Your challenge is in a totally different department. Stay with the plot. For someone trying to look as if you care about what children eat you certainly came across as callous and cruel in that comment.. Uncalled for.." | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. How can any right minded parents put cakes and biscuits in a child's lunch box? Why that's a crime in it's own right. Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. Ohh dear! They need flogging!! Face palm !
They need a lot more than flogging for this crime! "Must be a blast at parties | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. How can any right minded parents put cakes and biscuits in a child's lunch box? Why that's a crime in it's own right. Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. Ohh dear! They need flogging!! Face palm !
They need a lot more than flogging for this crime!
Must be a blast at parties "I don’t think he gets invited to parties. | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. How can any right minded parents put cakes and biscuits in a child's lunch box? Why that's a crime in it's own right. Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. Ohh dear! They need flogging!! Face palm !
They need a lot more than flogging for this crime!
Must be a blast at parties
I don’t think he gets invited to parties."Not if there’s no cherry tomatoes! | |||
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"Got to start on the correct things at the commencement of weaning so they don't get a taste for the bad things. We all get used to the things we eat regularly so find them nice that is why it is so hard to change and diet, creatures of habit. A lot of schools for infants at least won't allow them to take unhealthy foods in their lunch boxes ie biscuits cakes etc, thank goodness I have left school now lol. How can any right minded parents put cakes and biscuits in a child's lunch box? Why that's a crime in it's own right. Fresh fruits and cherry tomatoes. Ohh dear! They need flogging!! Face palm !
They need a lot more than flogging for this crime!
Must be a blast at parties
I don’t think he gets invited to parties.
Not if there’s no cherry tomatoes! "I'm sure you can pick some on the way. | |||
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"No! People should be responsible parents that’s what needs to happen. Not taking everyone else’s choices and treats away because some parents give in to everything! " I concur | |||
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"Trying to get the little ones to eat their fruit and veg has to be one of the biggest challenges in life. Why the little buggers would rather have a greasy Mcdonalds." Take them to Mickey D's, let them have whatever they want off the menu. Most importantly, do not order anything for yourself. When asked why you're not ordering anything for yourself just smile and say "enjoy". Then, when they ask what's wrong with it... | |||
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