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"……. Grow tougher skin and move on. " That’s what I know I should do for my sanity, but if I become as cold as what is done to me, do I change as a person? I’m scared I’d be the same in real life. | |||
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"I am guilty of stopping conversations, but that's usually only after a handful of messages. I don't get the whole just ghosting someone though. But it happens, I've had it happen after talking for months. Not a lot you can do. ****I never get overly involved with anyone for that reason now though.**** Also, yes you should be here!! " Someone once told me I invest too much into people. I didn’t know what she meant at the time, but I get it now. But how are you going to get to know someone without doing what you want them to do? Behave how you want them to behave, isn’t it? | |||
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"….. I’ve been observing people and how we communicate for a while now. Face to face conversation seems a thing of the past. People in groups all stare at the phones tapping or swiping at the screen……" Don’t get me started on this. Relationships break down because people spend too much time on their phone without being in the moment with them…. Taking pictures of food for Facebook??? | |||
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"….. I’ve been observing people and how we communicate for a while now. Face to face conversation seems a thing of the past. People in groups all stare at the phones tapping or swiping at the screen…… Don’t get me started on this. Relationships break down because people spend too much time on their phone without being in the moment with them…. Taking pictures of food for Facebook??? " Yep....when one really stops a thinks for a moment about what people are sharing and what information people think is relevant. | |||
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"I appreciate we’re all humans with complicated feelings. Some are able to deal with things in a matter of fact type way. And I admire you. Is it normalised now that just cutting someone off (ghosting/ deleting) mid conversation is okay? Short story. - dating app, she asks a personal question, I answer honestly. And boom, I’m blocked. No explanation or “Sorry, but that wouldn’t work for me” type thing. We had talked all day!! Do you have to be tough skinned and should I follow suit and just delete and block ? I’m starting to think my sensitive soul is getting a beating here. I can’t get my head around it. And also, could this actually slip into real life where we act the same way? silly notion I know, but we do it online at the moment, are we just copying what we see?" What was the question she asked? Perhaps she was wary of abuse if she said she'd changed her mind. Some people are shit. | |||
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"It seems to have suited you for more than a year, so I'm confident that you'll be fine " Fab for sexy times is different to actually wanting a date. If someone blocked me off here after I sent a FAF I’d be fine. | |||
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"It seems to have suited you for more than a year, so I'm confident that you'll be fine Fab for sexy times is different to actually wanting a date. If someone blocked me off here after I sent a FAF I’d be fine. " Fair | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy " This is good advice. Chatting all day just means you’ve moved into idle chit chat. People have other things to do (or should do) and get distracted and/or bored. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy " Good advice I can take. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy This is good advice. Chatting all day just means you’ve moved into idle chit chat. People have other things to do (or should do) and get distracted and/or bored. " The lines moves fast in dating these days Always remember. ABC Always Be Closing You should be pushing to get off fab/apps asap onto phone numbers, and then from number to date asap too Those that want to, will Those that don’t, will still chat to you until they get bored | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy " He's got a point. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy " Someone pushing me to meet would just annoy me and that would be the end of it. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy This is good advice. Chatting all day just means you’ve moved into idle chit chat. People have other things to do (or should do) and get distracted and/or bored. The lines moves fast in dating these days Always remember. ABC Always Be Closing You should be pushing to get off fab/apps asap onto phone numbers, and then from number to date asap too Those that want to, will Those that don’t, will still chat to you until they get bored" I generally find If you don’t meet within two weeks of initial speaking. It’s more than likely you will not meet. As reasons mentioned | |||
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"It's very disconcerting to say the least. Usually happens to me after I share a face pic and that's really character forming! " That way of liveing is actually here amongst us al. Where ever you go,heads are stuck to the phone. All dorked out. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy He's got a point. " Seconded. Fellow dating site user here, I don't get 100 matches a day but he's got a point. Back when I first started using dating sites in 2014, it was so much easier. You'd talk to someone for a bit, get asked out, go on a date and probably get ghosted but at least it went somewhere. These days on the occasions I've had interest, it seems to be a whole lot of talking, talks of a date but nothing actually materialising. I wouldn't take the ghosting personally, yes it's shitty but whether it's here or on a dating site, you never know the reaction she's had from other men when she's said 'thanks but no thanks' hence why she now just blocks. It's finding a balance of showing interest without appearing too interested and timing it right to ask the person in a date. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy Someone pushing me to meet would just annoy me and that would be the end of it. " Me too. I like to get to know people a bit. Op, you’re lovely, if you’re happy here and enjoying it, then stay . | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy Someone pushing me to meet would just annoy me and that would be the end of it. " I'd feel the same way. And I never give my phone number. A few guys have ghosted me after I said no to that. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy " I always meet for a social within 2 weeks of first chatting or we will never meet. Communication is easier face to face. No time wasted chatting online when there's no real attraction. | |||
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"I appreciate we’re all humans with complicated feelings. Some are able to deal with things in a matter of fact type way. And I admire you. Is it normalised now that just cutting someone off (ghosting/ deleting) mid conversation is okay? Short story. - dating app, she asks a personal question, I answer honestly. And boom, I’m blocked. No explanation or “Sorry, but that wouldn’t work for me” type thing. We had talked all day!! Do you have to be tough skinned and should I follow suit and just delete and block ? I’m starting to think my sensitive soul is getting a beating here. I can’t get my head around it. And also, could this actually slip into real life where we act the same way? silly notion I know, but we do it online at the moment, are we just copying what we see?" That's a decision only you can make my friend. This site is full of time wasters, fakes, etc but there are also some good people it's about riding the rough and enjoying the smooth | |||
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"Also, her decision to block after you were honest is not about you. Some people don’t have the headspace to reply back with ‘ok, that’s not for me’, and it’s not a criticism of them, but maybe in that moment they couldn’t, so felt the only option was to block. You genuinely never know how someone will react to that, and it may have felt like her safest option, even if it wasn’t pleasant for you. If you weren’t matched for whatever reason, although it wasn’t nice for you to be abruptly blocked, it’s better to know and move on? " This is very true. We also don’t know what the question was. There’s a world of difference between “I do like marvel films” and “I do like to drink blood from the skulls of those that block me”. | |||
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"I’m sorry this happened, pal. I wouldn’t say this is the same as ghosting but I think it’s pretty shit and horrible when it happens. With these dating apps, you’ve got to be pretty detached until you’ve met someone a few times I think. And in real life too actually. I think it’s important that we these days don’t get too attached to partners because ultimately we can’t always be what others want and others can’t always carry space for us and our situations. It’s nicer when they’re honest about that, sure, but it’s also sometimes not the worst thing when they block or delete because things weren’t right or going to work. In terms of how you feel about being blocked and deleted, feeling sad or disappointed is normal. Process it. Sit with it. And then tell yourself you’re a badman and carry on living your best life. " When I say not get too attached I mean not until after like 3 dates (for me). I have a 3 date minimum for sex with dating apps because then I’d have decided how I feel about that person usually and they should’ve decided how they feel about me too. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy Someone pushing me to meet would just annoy me and that would be the end of it. " It’s designed specifically to filter people like that out. Sadly, a lot of people on the apps will just chat out of boredom. They’ll chat for week and ghost the moment you push for a date. I’m not saying you do that, or anyone here that wants to chat for longer is doing that. But sadly, there’s no way to know either way. So you’ve gotta be efficient with your time and all those people out | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy Someone pushing me to meet would just annoy me and that would be the end of it. It’s designed specifically to filter people like that out. Sadly, a lot of people on the apps will just chat out of boredom. They’ll chat for week and ghost the moment you push for a date. I’m not saying you do that, or anyone here that wants to chat for longer is doing that. But sadly, there’s no way to know either way. So you’ve gotta be efficient with your time and all those people out " Agree. As a guy you can’t spend weeks chatting to people in the dating game these days. It’s sad but it’s a way to avoid getting breadcrumbed or strung along. Most women on dating apps actually ask to meet quickly in my experience because they also feel the same about not waiting too long- that’s what they’ve told me anyway. On tinder they even have disclaimers I think as well about what is and isn’t ghosting I think which is good for some people. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy He's got a point. Seconded. Fellow dating site user here, I don't get 100 matches a day but he's got a point. Back when I first started using dating sites in 2014, it was so much easier. You'd talk to someone for a bit, get asked out, go on a date and probably get ghosted but at least it went somewhere. These days on the occasions I've had interest, it seems to be a whole lot of talking, talks of a date but nothing actually materialising. I wouldn't take the ghosting personally, yes it's shitty but whether it's here or on a dating site, you never know the reaction she's had from other men when she's said 'thanks but no thanks' hence why she now just blocks. It's finding a balance of showing interest without appearing too interested and timing it right to ask the person in a date. " It’s always interesting to hear the other side of things. I suppose for you it’s a lot if “yeah let’s get a drink soon” followed by “ah I’m busy that day sadly” that eventually goes no where and dies out. All of my best outcomes from the OLD world have come from fast dates. Trade numbers that day, set up a date within the next 1-2 days. If someone’s actually interested in you, you’d be surprised how easy it is to arrange something. Follow the Brad Pitt rule. Or Chris Hemsworth. Or that Hardy fella. Whoever the latest heart throb is. Would they be acting like this if you were them? If chris hemsworth asked them to trade numbers would they ask to chat longer? If Brad Pitt asked them out for a drink, would they say maybe, or that their too busy this week? Stop chasing people that aren’t that interested in you | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy " "Pushing for a social" would be an instant put off. I meet when I'm ready and if a person can't respect that, then they can jog on to the next one. | |||
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"Talking all day is where you went wrong. They get 100 matches/messages a day. Until you meet in person, your just another guy in a long list they are talking to. You don’t stand out. Make yourself stand out by pushing for a social more, where you can actually stand out. It’s better to push for a social and get ghosted/rejected, then talk too long and get ghosted/rejected because someone else in their DMs has taken their fancy He's got a point. Seconded. Fellow dating site user here, I don't get 100 matches a day but he's got a point. Back when I first started using dating sites in 2014, it was so much easier. You'd talk to someone for a bit, get asked out, go on a date and probably get ghosted but at least it went somewhere. These days on the occasions I've had interest, it seems to be a whole lot of talking, talks of a date but nothing actually materialising. I wouldn't take the ghosting personally, yes it's shitty but whether it's here or on a dating site, you never know the reaction she's had from other men when she's said 'thanks but no thanks' hence why she now just blocks. It's finding a balance of showing interest without appearing too interested and timing it right to ask the person in a date. It’s always interesting to hear the other side of things. I suppose for you it’s a lot if “yeah let’s get a drink soon” followed by “ah I’m busy that day sadly” that eventually goes no where and dies out. All of my best outcomes from the OLD world have come from fast dates. Trade numbers that day, set up a date within the next 1-2 days. If someone’s actually interested in you, you’d be surprised how easy it is to arrange something. Follow the Brad Pitt rule. Or Chris Hemsworth. Or that Hardy fella. Whoever the latest heart throb is. Would they be acting like this if you were them? If chris hemsworth asked them to trade numbers would they ask to chat longer? If Brad Pitt asked them out for a drink, would they say maybe, or that their too busy this week? Stop chasing people that aren’t that interested in you " I don't anymore, I let them do the chasing. I learnt that quite early on. | |||
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"I appreciate we’re all humans with complicated feelings. Some are able to deal with things in a matter of fact type way. And I admire you. Is it normalised now that just cutting someone off (ghosting/ deleting) mid conversation is okay? Short story. - dating app, she asks a personal question, I answer honestly. And boom, I’m blocked. No explanation or “Sorry, but that wouldn’t work for me” type thing. We had talked all day!! Do you have to be tough skinned and should I follow suit and just delete and block ? I’m starting to think my sensitive soul is getting a beating here. I can’t get my head around it. And also, could this actually slip into real life where we act the same way? silly notion I know, but we do it online at the moment, are we just copying what we see?" Sorry its getting that reaction in you. If its getting like that, perhaps put the apps down for a couple of months and pick up a book or paint brush or guitar or running shoes. Internet behaviours are not healthy for many if not most people. | |||
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"Should clarify that “push for a social” doesn’t mean actually being pushy. It means asking and actually acting on their answer Be direct and have a time, place and date “Come to X for a drink at 7 tomorrow” If she says she can’t, and doesn’t offer a reschedule(eg - I can’t do tomorrow, can we go on Wednesday) then she’d not interested, move on If she can’t and offers a reschedule, great. And obviously just a yes is great too. Take any kind of “can we chat longer” stuff with caution. Some women will want to chat longer, most will either get distracted by a new match and move on, or have no real intention of meeting anyways. It’s just a boredom. Ask the question, be direct, and accept and act on the answer. Anything other than an enthusiastic “yes” = no " In this day and age I think all genders should be cautious. Again if a guy said to me "come to x at 7 tomorrow" I'd see that as an order. I have and always will decide when and where to meet, when I feel I've gotten to know someone. | |||
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"You can look at this is many ways, but the straight answer is that the internet is faceless, emotionless, empathy less, people don’t act they way they do in real life and there is no reason they should, you just need to grow a set and realise hat they are out there and they will block you, people are here for a quick fix of sex and then to move on, we’re not not here to build relationships or friendships, I’m here to be a koala - Eats, Shoots and Leaves " Some people are here to build friendships/relationships. Swinging is not just about sex! | |||
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"You can look at this is many ways, but the straight answer is that the internet is faceless, emotionless, empathy less, people don’t act they way they do in real life and there is no reason they should, you just need to grow a set and realise hat they are out there and they will block you, people are here for a quick fix of sex and then to move on, we’re not not here to build relationships or friendships, I’m here to be a koala - Eats, Shoots and Leaves " Should women grow a set too or do you offer different advice? Manning up or growing a set are lazy insulting arguments. | |||
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"You can look at this is many ways, but the straight answer is that the internet is faceless, emotionless, empathy less, people don’t act they way they do in real life and there is no reason they should, you just need to grow a set and realise hat they are out there and they will block you, people are here for a quick fix of sex and then to move on, we’re not not here to build relationships or friendships, I’m here to be a koala - Eats, Shoots and Leaves " You really are speaking for yourself there. I’m the total opposite to what you’ve just said | |||
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"You can look at this is many ways, but the straight answer is that the internet is faceless, emotionless, empathy less, people don’t act they way they do in real life and there is no reason they should, you just need to grow a set and realise hat they are out there and they will block you, people are here for a quick fix of sex and then to move on, we’re not not here to build relationships or friendships, I’m here to be a koala - Eats, Shoots and Leaves " You may be here for that, others will be here for that but certainly not everyone is here for that. In fact a large majority want to feel respected as a human and not an accessory to be worn by someone else's genitals for a brief moment | |||
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"Should clarify that “push for a social” doesn’t mean actually being pushy. It means asking and actually acting on their answer Be direct and have a time, place and date “Come to X for a drink at 7 tomorrow” If she says she can’t, and doesn’t offer a reschedule(eg - I can’t do tomorrow, can we go on Wednesday) then she’d not interested, move on If she can’t and offers a reschedule, great. And obviously just a yes is great too. Take any kind of “can we chat longer” stuff with caution. Some women will want to chat longer, most will either get distracted by a new match and move on, or have no real intention of meeting anyways. It’s just a boredom. Ask the question, be direct, and accept and act on the answer. Anything other than an enthusiastic “yes” = no In this day and age I think all genders should be cautious. Again if a guy said to me "come to x at 7 tomorrow" I'd see that as an order. I have and always will decide when and where to meet, when I feel I've gotten to know someone. " Wouldn’t use this language tbf. I have asked people after a few days of chatting, ‘how would you feel about meeting up for [insert date idea]/ coming along to [insert date idea]?’ And gone from there. On dating apps though I think it is fair for people to be cautious, especially women, and I’ve had one person be honest about wanting to get to know one another before dating. We spoke for like two months before we met. She’s great. But equally, I’m an advocate of dating multiple people at once but maybe people that date one at a time would be cautious of having their time wasted which is also fair. Idk it’s interesting | |||
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"You can look at this is many ways, but the straight answer is that the internet is faceless, emotionless, empathy less, people don’t act they way they do in real life and there is no reason they should, you just need to grow a set and realise hat they are out there and they will block you, people are here for a quick fix of sex and then to move on, we’re not not here to build relationships or friendships, I’m here to be a koala - Eats, Shoots and Leaves Should women grow a set too or do you offer different advice? Manning up or growing a set are lazy insulting arguments. " Missed that comment. Totally agree with you, RB. Urgh. | |||
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" Agree. As a guy you can’t spend weeks chatting to people in the dating game these days. It’s sad but it’s a way to avoid getting breadcrumbed or strung along. " Never heard the 'breadcrumbed' term before and so I just googled it. Not usually into catchphrases but have to admit it is a good one! I do agree with all the others who have pointed out that it is not a good idea to assume that you are the only person tickling someone's fancy. Even seemingly rock solid relationships can be at risk from some apparently greener grass coming into view. | |||
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"You can look at this is many ways, but the straight answer is that the internet is faceless, emotionless, empathy less, people don’t act they way they do in real life and there is no reason they should, you just need to grow a set and realise hat they are out there and they will block you, people are here for a quick fix of sex and then to move on, we’re not not here to build relationships or friendships, I’m here to be a koala - Eats, Shoots and Leaves You may be here for that, others will be here for that but certainly not everyone is here for that. In fact a large majority want to feel respected as a human and not an accessory to be worn by someone else's genitals for a brief moment " Exactly. So many things wrong with this Koala attitude …..no doubt he’s now finding himself blocked by many. | |||
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"Everybody thanks for the replies. I really can’t quote you all. But I’m glad I’m not alone in thinking its odd behaviour mid conversation. And yes, I get it might be from past experiences. No need to take it out on the next one though? Eh? " OP I want to apologise for my earlier comment, it was uncalled for and not who I am. Just having a bad morning, mental health issues. I found it hard to build relationships in here, found there are a few cliques that if your not part of, you never will be. I’ve been the victim of the full day chat just for them to go dark, it’s so poor an attitude I’d prefer to just say they weren’t interested and leave it at that. I’d rather build a friendship with someone who want to be there than some who is half there. I’m not apologising because I’ll lose any friends because I simply don’t have any. You shouldn’t need to grow a pair like a said people should respect you for who you are. Again I’m sorry OP, all the best! | |||
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"Everybody thanks for the replies. I really can’t quote you all. But I’m glad I’m not alone in thinking its odd behaviour mid conversation. And yes, I get it might be from past experiences. No need to take it out on the next one though? Eh? OP I want to apologise for my earlier comment, it was uncalled for and not who I am. Just having a bad morning, mental health issues. I found it hard to build relationships in here, found there are a few cliques that if your not part of, you never will be. I’ve been the victim of the full day chat just for them to go dark, it’s so poor an attitude I’d prefer to just say they weren’t interested and leave it at that. I’d rather build a friendship with someone who want to be there than some who is half there. I’m not apologising because I’ll lose any friends because I simply don’t have any. You shouldn’t need to grow a pair like a said people should respect you for who you are. Again I’m sorry OP, all the best! " I hope that your evening is much better than your day sounds like it's been x | |||
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