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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Tragic losses once more.

Should it be banned...

Or at least looked at..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, it's their choice to ride.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

Motorcycle racing is inherently dangerous, and participants know this when they start doing it. Someone once said “it’s not tragic to die doing something you love”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No.

Motorcycle racing is inherently dangerous, and participants know this when they start doing it. Someone once said “it’s not tragic to die doing something you love” "

Agree completely

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

People die regularly doing various sports.

How many dead bodies on mountains?

Men in particular like the thrill and adrenaline from deadly pursuits and I don't think we should take that away from them.

An old cliché but they could die crossing the road, or, die in a pile-up on the M25.

I feel for the families but they all know the risk.

Maybe it could be made safer, but I'm not a motor racing expert.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this."

That's a different angle to it.

Too much money in F1, so that won't go until we run out of oil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, just look at how Formula one is no longer down to the skills of the driver but the technology and safety of the car. I have a lot friends who ride bikes for the pleasure and the thrill. They know the risks.

TT and tour de France, real skills and endurance. Sports players who you have to admire.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this.

That's a different angle to it.

Too much money in F1, so that won't go until we run out of oil."

It is a different issue, but it's much more important than a few deaths on a single event. When climate change gets really bad we will be looking at millions of deaths, either directly or indirectly

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By *moothshaftMan
over a year ago

Coventry

We've had some tragic losses this season.

The problem is, the bikes are getting faster and faster with technology advancement, but the I.O.M. streets haven't changed in one hundred years.

Maybe the BHP of the bikes should be capped or even reduced? I don't know, but it would be a shame to see this ancient sport stopped.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tragic losses once more.

Should it be banned...

Or at least looked at.. "

It comes with the territory. Apparently the last year there were no deaths was 1982. I wish people would stop trying to wrap everything in cotton wool.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this."

To be fair, "events" are having much less impact than every-day is. An entire Airshow will use much less fuel than a single passenger flight to Egypt. Just like one hour of peak traffic on the M25 will consume more fuel than then entire F1 season.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this.

That's a different angle to it.

Too much money in F1, so that won't go until we run out of oil.

It is a different issue, but it's much more important than a few deaths on a single event. When climate change gets really bad we will be looking at millions of deaths, either directly or indirectly"
f1 is doing loads to reduces it's footprint. Irrc it's also driving innovation. The biggest footprint is from the travelling rather than the race ... That opens up interesting doors !

I wonder what the world cup footprint looks like when you add in fans ...

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this.

To be fair, "events" are having much less impact than every-day is. An entire Airshow will use much less fuel than a single passenger flight to Egypt. Just like one hour of peak traffic on the M25 will consume more fuel than then entire F1 season.

Cal"

True, but as that well known supermarket says, every little helps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the subject of the OP topic, I'd not ban. Ppl want to take risks. In many ways, dying doing something I love (and quicky) feels a better way out than slowly over time from some shitty disease. Ban cigs before TT!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No.

Motorcycle racing is inherently dangerous, and participants know this when they start doing it. Someone once said “it’s not tragic to die doing something you love” "

Gold star for this man. Exactly what I was going to say

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this."

Well you'll have to ban any sport with crowds then, as the volume of traffic for people travelling to watch various football matches every week will far exceed what F1 uses.

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By *hrough the looking gla55Couple
over a year ago

Epsom

Having raced at this event myself and long term fan it's a debate that comes up every year .. no rider goes there to think about the possibility of death or accident otherwise they wouldn't attend..yes it's inherently dangerous but in context it's as safe as it can be .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this."

Meanwhile in asia

No it shouldnt be banned its a lifestyle choice. I do trackdays very regularly on both bikes and cars i know the risks, ive come off my bike at 60, im alive and know it could have been a different story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it should be banned either, despite the much needed revenue it brings to the Island the riders know the risks when they go out and they know that colleagues might not make it back.

Having been on the circuit prior you can see the deep respect the riders have for each other off the tracks as said above it is a lifestyle choice, majority being born into it (look at the Dunlop family) telling the Dunlop family that their lifelong campaign of racing is over and you may as well kill them off anyway, racing is in the blood, in their DNA.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this.

Well you'll have to ban any sport with crowds then, as the volume of traffic for people travelling to watch various football matches every week will far exceed what F1 uses. "

Okies, I'll get the ban hammer ready

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

You may as well say ban motorbike racing all together. You always hear about the deaths at the TT but it happens at track days, club racing across the country much more often than you think

The answer is no... people choose to race...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The old adage of how it's much simpler to stop the man on the street from doing X because it's more obvious applies here. The tanker that brings your car over from Japan to the UK will pump out 4x more pollution than every car on it's decks will in their entire working lives, in that single journey. But sure, blame Jonny sports fan for polluting. Etc.

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By *p4funCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

No

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By *othin 2 proveCouple
over a year ago

Blackpool

No! as usual it will be the people who don't ride or who have nothing to do with bikes that want it banned.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick


"Tragic losses once more.

Should it be banned...

Or at least looked at.. "

Tragic losses on the normal roads too.

Ban all driving?

Everyone who enters the TT knows the risks. Same as with any sports.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

No, it shouldn’t be banned.

From someone who has lost people to MX and the NW200.

Being involved in motorsport is a lifestyle these people love. We know the risks and for them it’s worth it.

If you don’t understand that passion then it’s best not to comment on it. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No-one forces them to ride, they know the risks.

Maybe they need to look at Agos leap from a sidecar perspective as that's where 3 of the deaths occurred.

I'm up for making the track/Road safer but totally against banning the event.

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By *exbot 1Man
over a year ago

Chester le street

It comes with the sport it will never be banned as all riders no the risk on the iom it comes with the territory

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By *armandwet50Couple
over a year ago

Far far away


"Tragic losses once more.

Should it be banned...

Or at least looked at.. "

I think everybody should look at it and get the viewing figures up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No.

Motorcycle racing is inherently dangerous, and participants know this when they start doing it. Someone once said “it’s not tragic to die doing something you love” "

Completely agree, it's what they all love doing and know the risks.

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By *edfleetMan
over a year ago

covent garden

I’ve ridden it twice. Crashed the second time

I’d still do it again.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Never managed to get to the TT yet, but intend to do so in the near future. Ridden motorbikes for the last 25 years and had more than a few close moments on the road.

I remember when they considered trying to ban bikes having more than 100bhp, that failed. If they tried with the TT that’ll fail as well.

It’s tragic what’s happened to all of the riders who’ve lost their lives on the Island. But they know the risks and part of racing the race is surviving the course, ask any rider on Mad Sunday.

Ban the race no chance, make it safer ….that’s a good discussion and something I’d certainly back.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Considering that we are facing a global climate catastrophe caused by human activity putting carbon and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, I dont think that any sport or event that uses large volumes of fossil fuels should be allowed to continue. Dont get me wrong, I love going to airshows and I would be sad to see them go, but we really should be doing more to slow this.

That's a different angle to it.

Too much money in F1, so that won't go until we run out of oil.

It is a different issue, but it's much more important than a few deaths on a single event. When climate change gets really bad we will be looking at millions of deaths, either directly or indirectly"

Just to mention, Le Mans announced a new hydrogen powered car racing in 2024 along with refuelling support.. It's highly unlikely bikes will move to hydrogen though F1 might if batteries can't sustain charge or have quicker recharge.

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By *iltomMan
over a year ago

swansea


"The old adage of how it's much simpler to stop the man on the street from doing X because it's more obvious applies here. The tanker that brings your car over from Japan to the UK will pump out 4x more pollution than every car on it's decks will in their entire working lives, in that single journey. But sure, blame Jonny sports fan for polluting. Etc."

25 years working on tankers and never saw a cae on deck yet.

Also, look at the volume of cargo carried. You obviously don’t know much about shipping and emissions and MARPOL regulations. Ships have exhaust gas recirc, scrubbers etc. The distillate fuels have to meet strict controls too.

Might be an idea for you to do some research.

Living on an island nation without goods arriving by sea would be interesting

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