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"Also it won't be long before we need to worry about siphoning in the dead if night" Really good point | |||
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"Do you need to fill up if you have half a tank?" Good point. Wait 2 weeks, don't give the oil giants your money until you really have to. | |||
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"Do you need to fill up if you have half a tank?" I pass a cheap petrol station on the way to work so will fill up even if it just means saving a few pennies. The rate its going up if I leave it for a week it will be up a few more p's a litre. I also feel a fuel blockade or protest is around the corner, these increase must be affecting haulage companies alot. | |||
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"Do you need to fill up if you have half a tank? Good point. Wait 2 weeks, don't give the oil giants your money until you really have to." No, just let them benefit from the inevitable price rise in between! | |||
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"Do you need to fill up if you have half a tank? I pass a cheap petrol station on the way to work so will fill up even if it just means saving a few pennies. The rate its going up if I leave it for a week it will be up a few more p's a litre. I also feel a fuel blockade or protest is around the corner, these increase must be affecting haulage companies alot. " Haulage companies might be paying greater fuel cost but they are being smart.. Consolidating shipments for less journeys. Means delivery times are increased for you and I. Charging on average £20,000 per trip. Means price hikes on products for you and I... | |||
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"Do you need to fill up if you have half a tank?" I try not to go under half a tank since we had petrol shortages. The worry that I won't be able to get to my dad's isn't worth it | |||
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"Do you need to fill up if you have half a tank? I try not to go under half a tank since we had petrol shortages. The worry that I won't be able to get to my dad's isn't worth it " I agree...try not to let it get under half a tank. If there is going to be some fuel protest etc you can be sure the cost will rise even more. | |||
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"Do you need to fill up if you have half a tank?" May be holding it as an investment | |||
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"I am pretty sure I remember strikes and haulers and tractors lining the roads when fuel hit £1.30 years ago.. Where are they now....!!!! Fuel is the government's way of paying for bexit and covid!!! 50% of the price goes to the government.. Remember that when you fill up today...!!!! " I doubt we’ll see blockades like that ever again, thanks to tony Blair after the 2000 blockades.. he changed the laws to make it illegal and drivers can lose their licenses and operators shut down.. no one will take the risk again.. | |||
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"$208.9 per liter here, cost us $340 to fill the tank on out truck." Only $133 in USA. | |||
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"I am staggered at the cost of petrol in Libya and Venezuela.$0.05 per litre !" Likewise in Trinidad where not only do they produce their own but it is nationalised along with the filling stations. (I am happy to be corrected on this, though, as I haven't been there since 2019 but hopefully it hasn't changed) | |||
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"I am staggered at the cost of petrol in Libya and Venezuela.$0.05 per litre !" | |||
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"I am staggered at the cost of petrol in Libya and Venezuela.$0.05 per litre ! " Although if the conditions aren't much better than when someone we knew managed to get out of Venezuela a few years back I'd sooner pay our prices | |||
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"Wish me luck, I have half a tank already so wont be too bad. On the plus side it should be about 1 month before I need to venture onto a petrol station forecourt again. On another side note it wont be long where cars where the fuel inside the car is worth more than the car itself. " I wish you luck. I had 2 gallons left and filled up a couple of weeks ago, £100.01 (yes, that did my ocd in a treat lol) and I just kinda sighed. | |||
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"Unless the whole county stood together and said enough is enough! Nothing will happen! " I was saying that to my daughter today. If we all refused for even a week to put fuel in.. then it would be a massive protest but people will whinge, then pay anyway. | |||
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" Haulage companies might be paying greater fuel cost but they are being smart.. Consolidating shipments for less journeys. Means delivery times are increased for you and I. Charging on average £20,000 per trip. Means price hikes on products for you and I..." The price for delivering an HGV load from a to b is significantly less than 20k. Most if the time it's less than 1k. Also, the haulage industry has been consolidating loads as much as possible for years. That's called business sense. | |||
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"Unless the whole county stood together and said enough is enough! Nothing will happen! " I already buy fuel only when I need to. Who are these people making elective journeys who will somehow bring the country to its knees (more... ) and magically change the worldwide oil price? | |||
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" Haulage companies might be paying greater fuel cost but they are being smart.. Consolidating shipments for less journeys. Means delivery times are increased for you and I. Charging on average £20,000 per trip. Means price hikes on products for you and I... The price for delivering an HGV load from a to b is significantly less than 20k. Most if the time it's less than 1k. Also, the haulage industry has been consolidating loads as much as possible for years. That's called business sense." From the meetings I was in last week, definitely not 1k... | |||
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" From the meetings I was in last week, definitely not 1k... " Was that the delivered cost of the product (which is charged to you by your supplier), or the delivery charge for the movement (which is charged to the supplier by the haulier)? | |||
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" From the meetings I was in last week, definitely not 1k... Was that the delivered cost of the product (which is charged to you by your supplier), or the delivery charge for the movement (which is charged to the supplier by the haulier)?" It's a valid point. However I am led to believe it's haulier. Our pricing was around 1k, but these pricing changes are expected to hit our industry in next the couple of months particularly on our direct drives. They have already hit other industries so I was told. | |||
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"Unless the whole county stood together and said enough is enough! Nothing will happen! I was saying that to my daughter today. If we all refused for even a week to put fuel in.. then it would be a massive protest but people will whinge, then pay anyway. " we all say but nobody does it. We protested over 20 yr ago because it went Over 90p. and now we pay whatever they tell us to. I vote for everyone in fab to strike. That’ll tell em. | |||
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"I don't understand why some blame the government. Am I missing something? Did they actively increase the prices somehow or the tax rate on it? Isn't it determined by factors like the rising US$ exchange rate because of their rising interest rates or oil prices as determined by OPEC and supply issues? Some oil producing nations subsidise their fuel to their population to keep them from an uprising. Little things like that, right? " Exactly this. | |||
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"I don't understand why some blame the government. Am I missing something? Did they actively increase the prices somehow or the tax rate on it? Isn't it determined by factors like the rising US$ exchange rate because of their rising interest rates or oil prices as determined by OPEC and supply issues? Some oil producing nations subsidise their fuel to their population to keep them from an uprising. Little things like that, right? " Well, when EVERYTHING is increasing due to external geopolitical issues the government has a responsibility to take care of it’s people. In this instance the government duty accounts for 40%+ of what we pay on fuel. They could absolutely do something about that and should. | |||
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"Not affecting me so far but then I only ever put £20 in" that will only get me about one day's travel | |||
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"I don't understand why some blame the government. Am I missing something? Did they actively increase the prices somehow or the tax rate on it? Isn't it determined by factors like the rising US$ exchange rate because of their rising interest rates or oil prices as determined by OPEC and supply issues? Some oil producing nations subsidise their fuel to their population to keep them from an uprising. Little things like that, right? Well, when EVERYTHING is increasing due to external geopolitical issues the government has a responsibility to take care of it’s people. In this instance the government duty accounts for 40%+ of what we pay on fuel. They could absolutely do something about that and should. " How would you propose they put it back to 40% when times have settled without facing a massive round of whinging by the population again? I don't know about you but faced with that prospect, I'd try something else rather more temporary and easier to remove once external factors have calmed down. | |||
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"Read an article on Bloomberg earlier today.. apparently the Uk had sold over 3 BILLION litres of fuel to the USA this year! That’s a piss take, USA prices are currently a little over half of what we pay here.. " The US hardly imports any oil. Pretty sure it's a net exporter | |||
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"I don't understand why some blame the government. Am I missing something? Did they actively increase the prices somehow or the tax rate on it? Isn't it determined by factors like the rising US$ exchange rate because of their rising interest rates or oil prices as determined by OPEC and supply issues?" It's not 'determined' by those factors, though they play a role. However, I would argue that a more important role is played by capitalism. | |||
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"Maybe cooking oil or water may be an alternative one day " You could use cooking oil in old diesels but since they all went common rail you can't. | |||
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"Also it won't be long before we need to worry about siphoning in the dead if night" Already happening, my employer have lost around £12,000 to fuel theft in the last 4 months. | |||
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"When are the motorway blockades going to start? " You're going to drive to a motorway in order to make your fellow citizens waste expensive fuel? That's not exactly sticking it to "the man", is it? | |||
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"It's really really simple! If everyone boycotted Shell and BP and I mean everyone the price would tumble very very quickly. OK tesco, asda, Morrisons etc would be rammed but it would be worth it !" It’s like that where I am, an empty BP forecourt, and queues out of the Tesco station. I’ve also noted that the school run traffic has noticeably reduced. | |||
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"Also it won't be long before we need to worry about siphoning in the dead if night" Car stickers with "no fuel left in this vehicle overnight"? | |||
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" I’ve also noted that the school run traffic has noticeably reduced. " Maybe because years 11 and 13 are only going in for exams ? | |||
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"Wish me luck, I have half a tank already so wont be too bad. On the plus side it should be about 1 month before I need to venture onto a petrol station forecourt again. On another side note it wont be long where cars where the fuel inside the car is worth more than the car itself. " I think I got really lucky… filled up last Monday at a Morrisons forecourt… 168.9, went past yesterday… 182.9 | |||
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"I’m glad I switched to electric even with the electricity price hike we are still paying a fraction of what we were in Diesel " Yep. Best ever sales campaign for electric cars. | |||
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"Also it won't be long before we need to worry about siphoning in the dead if night" Someone in my area had his entire tank of fuel stolen, they drilled a hole into the tank and emptied it | |||
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"Saw it at 192.9 for unleaded and 199.9 for diesel at our local Gulf garage last night, we are semi rural but not that far out. I'm lucky in that I don't pay for fuel directly must be fkn hell if you're on a budget." Yup. I have a one litre car…. It took £61 to fill it, when I bought it in 2018 right up to the beginning of this year, it was around £35-37 to fill it | |||
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"I’m glad I switched to electric even with the electricity price hike we are still paying a fraction of what we were in Diesel Yep. Best ever sales campaign for electric cars. " Not really. Electric is going up too. I actually was researching and It isn't much cheaper.. and the extra hassle of waiting to charge it would take all the fun out of driving..... I also can't function my life with a car that needs charging every 150miles. ( realistically the cars I've looked at would ) | |||
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"Also it won't be long before we need to worry about siphoning in the dead if night" Just leave your fuel cap off, at least there won't be damage.... | |||
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"Not really. Electric is going up too. I actually was researching and It isn't much cheaper.. and the extra hassle of waiting to charge it would take all the fun out of driving..... I also can't function my life with a car that needs charging every 150miles. ( realistically the cars I've looked at would )" We drive a hybrid and I have never been more grateful of that fact! I would not like a fully electric car though, for the reasons you stated. | |||
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"Because we are English. The French wouldn't stand for this. We all as a nation roll over and go yes sir yes sir three bags full sir. " I live in France and the price is only slightly cheaper than the U.K - but the government has rebated 15 cents a litre. Electricity in France has always cost more than U.K. but the standing charges price rises for gas and electric means that my electric is much cheaper now as government has capped the pice rise and some get good rebates if they have low income. | |||
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"Filled up Wednesday evening . Just over half a tank. £67.50. Price £188.9. This morning price now £189.9. " 206.9 for diesel now.. Ffs | |||
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"Filled up Wednesday evening . Just over half a tank. £67.50. Price £188.9. This morning price now £189.9. 206.9 for diesel now.. Ffs" Just checked on app. Price at same station now £189.9. Must have gone up after I went past. As timed price of seven jours ago | |||
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