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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So I was casually searching through job ads and noticed one where a responsibility said "Self Starter - Is willing to do what it takes to get the job done"

To me, that was a red flag because it's such a catch all statement with no context behind it whatsoever and basically says you better like staying on late if there's an issue.

That being said, what would be a red flag for you in a job search?

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

“Competitive Salary”

Especially in my field of work is a massive code red for “we want to pay you absolutely peanuts despite having 5/6 years experience”

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

Clothing optional.

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By *ampWithABrainWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

“Willing to go above and beyond” = we’ll treat you like dirt and expect you to be grateful

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Flexible hours. Usually means flexible for the employer.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

A red flag for me is when as benefits they list things like free fruit, games room, team meals/socials, gym memberships, all companies should do this. It basically means they don’t have total reward packages.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

Company pension, 4 weeks holiday

Thanks for treating legally required employment obligations as a ‘benefit’

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Salary negotiable - meaning we will pay you as little as possible .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No salary given – We don’t pay very well

Competitive package – Not really competitive, usually below market rate with poor benefits

Negotiable – Whatever you ask for we will offer you 70% of that regardless of your stated salary being reasonable and around the market rate

Excellent package including benefits x,y,z – Total package £ value is around market rate but cash in hand at the end of the month is poor, health insurance, corporate gym membership, 12% pension and 20% off at Costa and Homebase don’t pay my bills

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A red flag for me is when as benefits they list things like free fruit, games room, team meals/socials, gym memberships, all companies should do this. It basically means they don’t have total reward packages. "

That's really interesting as I actually thought those were benefits

What would you consider a good benefits package?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The job “ad” is basically just the job description.

Conclusion

Either too lazy to write an ad to sell the job or arrogant enough to think just having the job is doing you a favour.

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

I don't have red flags, I view job applications as a starting point for negotiation - as the applicant don't underestimate your value and be prepared to walk if it's not what you're prepared to accept

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By *ack688Man
over a year ago

abruzzo Italy (and UK)

No specific salary ranges specified. Would you go and have dinner in a restaurant that had no prices on the menu? No, so be up front about what you’re going to be working for or just admit that you want to screw people over to get them to work for as little as you can get away with.

We’re a family here. No you’re not, and nor should you be, families expect things from each other that doesn’t happen in normal life, and you sure as hell don’t want to work for a company that has limitless expectations of you.

We want people who know how to be loyal. Which means, break your back for us and we will drop you like hot coals the second its no longer in our interest to employ you.

Work hard, play hard. More corporate bollocks. You should be able to do the work required of you in the normal working day, otherwise it’s exploitation. The people who come in early and stay late and see that as a virtue have been brainwashed by corporate idealism to think that selling their souls for their employers benefit is worthwhile, it’s not.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Quickest way to end an interview, ask what the minimum salary is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely the competitive salary one. It means they'll ask you what salary you'd like, then decide if they want to hire you...starts off on an uneven footing.

The phrase like a family makes me shudder too. I don't want to be that close to my colleagues

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By *erDirtyRockstarMan
over a year ago

buckinghamshire

I don't mind companies proposing to look for certain sorts of attitudes to work. It's about possessing a work ethic in keeping with values. In between the lines if I feel a company isn't authentic in its values and what sort of people they profess to be looking for, then they are not worth the value I bring.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Was asked to write a 1000 words on X subject, only to not hear back from them. I then found an article on the subject with near the exact same topics and structure I'd used. They'd no doubt added points from others who'd written in and re-worded it but for say 90%, it was my ramblings. Pissed me off at the time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interviews as applications come in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always test the interviewers about the job role. Ask them something specific about the tasks. If the expertise is there, great. If they know nothing, Jon Snow, also great as you can twist and the turn the interview to your benefit and reveal a lot of things about the role. If they lie and give you flannel, don't take the job. Believe me they do lie, its the arrogance of a interviewer or manager not to look stupid. I lost two good employees in January due to the management promises and lies made at the interview stages 18 months earlier.

Also a good tip I received, always check the mood of the front of house staff. Disengaged, major red flag. If a company's first impression seems unhappy or disillusioned and the company doesn't care, its blowing in the wind.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"A red flag for me is when as benefits they list things like free fruit, games room, team meals/socials, gym memberships, all companies should do this. It basically means they don’t have total reward packages.

That's really interesting as I actually thought those were benefits

What would you consider a good benefits package?"

Most organisations couldn't afford to offer that. Gym memberships cost money. A games room is space the employer is paying for. It may be standard for some corporates/industries but it isn't something all employers should be offering.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Any application process that asks for your current salary. That's irrelevant to the role they are offering.

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London


"No salary given – We don’t pay very well

Competitive package – Not really competitive, usually below market rate with poor benefits

Negotiable – Whatever you ask for we will offer you 70% of that regardless of your stated salary being reasonable and around the market rate

Excellent package including benefits x,y,z – Total package £ value is around market rate but cash in hand at the end of the month is poor, health insurance, corporate gym membership, 12% pension and 20% off at Costa and Homebase don’t pay my bills"

All good points. Sometimes it might not be the intention but that is definitely the impression

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London


"No specific salary ranges specified. Would you go and have dinner in a restaurant that had no prices on the menu? No, so be up front about what you’re going to be working for or just admit that you want to screw people over to get them to work for as little as you can get away with.

We’re a family here. No you’re not, and nor should you be, families expect things from each other that doesn’t happen in normal life, and you sure as hell don’t want to work for a company that has limitless expectations of you.

We want people who know how to be loyal. Which means, break your back for us and we will drop you like hot coals the second its no longer in our interest to employ you.

Work hard, play hard. More corporate bollocks. You should be able to do the work required of you in the normal working day, otherwise it’s exploitation. The people who come in early and stay late and see that as a virtue have been brainwashed by corporate idealism to think that selling their souls for their employers benefit is worthwhile, it’s not."

Very true. I hate all the corporate hypocrisy and the faux complex terminology they use to hide behind like a smokescreen.

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London


"The job “ad” is basically just the job description.

Conclusion

Either too lazy to write an ad to sell the job or arrogant enough to think just having the job is doing you a favour. "

I have definitely seen at least one ad which literally described a full time permanent contract as some kind of amazing offer. Yeah, in this job market? Good luck with that kind of attitude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Must have experience and degrees in Quantum Physics, Physics, Chemistry, Working as a team as well as alone.

Job: Car park attendant

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish


"A red flag for me is when as benefits they list things like free fruit, games room, team meals/socials, gym memberships, all companies should do this. It basically means they don’t have total reward packages. "

We’ve clearly been working for very different companies.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish


"Must have experience and degrees in Quantum Physics, Physics, Chemistry, Working as a team as well as alone.

Job: Car park attendant "

Are your eyes really that blue?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Salary negotiable - meaning we will pay you as little as possible ."

I put this on job adds, i wouldnt pay someone straight out of uni the same as someone on job experienced in the field.

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By *eneralPMan
over a year ago

other

When benefits include “holiday”

No salary listed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gym membership, free fruit, bean bags, foosball table, nights out, trips to Ibiza, etc etc.

These are not benefits they’ve been factored into the overheads to hire you. You’re paying for them.

Cash is king. The only benefits which matter are pension contributions, bonus calculation, and insurance (if you have a family, otherwise it’s in category above).

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