FabSwingers.com forum: How did you climb the career ladder?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Before last year I'd spent my adult life after leaving uni falling into different kinds of jobs and never truly knowing what I wanted to do. I tried to switch careers to something completely different and pretty lucrative in 2019, and was actually successful in making the switch, until covid...

I tried so hard to get back on that same job path but 2020 was an absolute pooper for job hunting (and just in general obvs). Around a year ago I ended up blagging a job that seemed to perfectly mesh together the type of job I'd been going for and the skills I'd gained so far.

I'm still in the same type of job, and for the first time I can see a lot of possibilities ahead of me in this career path. I still feel way behind my peers though, who decided pretty quickly what they wanted to do and have now amassed vast amounts of knowledge, experience and large salaries to boot. But I'm trying to focus on the fact that at least I know where I'm heading now

So how did you, the people of Fab, get to where you are now? Did you always know what you wanted to do? Or did you have to play the field a little first like me?

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

I haven't, I've always gone sideways into completely new (to me) industries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did various stuff before I settled down and then was often just luck getting into roles because nobody else had a clue

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

I slept my way to the top…spent half my career asleep.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did think about becoming a window cleaner...

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"I did think about becoming a window cleaner...

He likes licking windows ^

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Hard work, determination, showing that I’m capable and not a fuckwit, being better than everyone else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I did think about becoming a window cleaner...

He likes licking windows ^ "

Not just windows... All the bits!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im not a fan of ladders unless iv caused em

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By *olden RatioWoman
over a year ago

Buckinghamshire

I always knew the field that I wanted to be in, but within it there are lots of different pathways. I started in my current career 10 years ago, worked really hard and now I'm in a lead role.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got lucky, then I worked hard, and through that I stayed lucky. It's really that simple, or was for me. Your milage may vary, but the work hard bit was probably key.

“If you trust in yourself. . .and believe in your dreams. . .and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

? Terry Pratchett,

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

I have never got anywhere on the career ladder, its never been a priority but is annoying to do all the work & see incompetent people promoted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All joking aside OP, I've never had what you'd call a "career", always been the round peg in a square hole. I have learned a lot of valuable life skills though.

Hopefully that'll be changing when I graduate next year. Good luck x

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By *ighty_tightyMan
over a year ago

Norfolk/Suffolk

I didn't plan anything.

I started at this company in 1998. Just bumbled along and gone from position to position over the years.

Have kind of peaked though, there's no where else for me here unless I go management and that is very very much not me.

We have just merged with another company in other fields, I could always go sideways for a bit of a change.

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By *eneralKenobiMan
over a year ago

North Angus

I’ve not, apparently (as I’ve been told) if I could keep my mouth shut I’d be a lot further up there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By avoiding all the shit that rolls down hill

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I started out making lenses for glasses. Realised I could only go so far so I got into electronics.

I’ve been working in that trade for 21 years now and purely from sticking it out I’ve gone up the ladder.

I now manage and consult and have done relatively well for a non university educated person.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

I had to change my original career plans pretty quickly due to a family situation - saw an ad for a grad recruitment scheme, decided on a whim to apply and now almost ten years later, after moments of wanting to cry (and actually crying), long days, sexism, you know, the usual... I'm quite happy where I am and proud of it. It helped that I made a good friend during the scheme who has helped me a lot with advice and encouraged me to specialise and go for promotions.

I toy with the idea of moving to another sector sometimes but because I'm quite comfortable and know my current job well, I end up dismissing them.

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By *ighty_tightyMan
over a year ago

Norfolk/Suffolk

"I had to change my original career plans pretty quickly due to a family situation - saw an ad for a grad recruitment scheme, decided on a whim to apply and now almost ten years later, after moments of wanting to cry (and actually crying), long days, sexism, you know, the usual... I'm quite happy where I am and proud of it. It helped that I made a good friend during the scheme who has helped me a lot with advice and encouraged me to specialise and go for promotions.

I toy with the idea of moving to another sector sometimes but because I'm quite comfortable and know my current job well, I end up dismissing them."

Snap. I'm comfortable here. Maybe complacent even. I've got some transferable skills and could move elsewhere but having done this for so long I'm also rather loathsome to leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mostly through being being asked. I moved to S Wales at 22 having done an apprenticeship and gained a few years experience as a fitter. Took a relatively low paid job to move here to be with my (now) ex wife. Got promoted to workshop supervisor but had a row over pay, left and found a job contracting. Got offered a permanent position at a company I contacted for, got promoted to Senior Engineer, got poached by one of my suppliers then set up on my own.

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By *odgerMooreMan
over a year ago

Carlisle

Ive slept my way from the exec board to my current position in the toilets with a sponge and no rubber gloves!!

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Never had a career plan or even thought about a ladder. Got pissed off with further education for a number of reasons beyond my control so I started working at 19.

Within 5 years that company formed a subsidiary and asked me to manage it based solely on my work ethic.

I did that very successfully for 22 years until new legislation affected sales to such an extent we had to close and I moved back to the parent company.

I walked away from that company after 34 years because it was obvious I wasn't appreciated and took up a new management role on the same rung of the ladder at a different company.

That lasted exactly 13 months until lockdown one arrived and after 6 months of furlough I was let go for the first time in my life aged 55.

I fell into my current job by pure luck and timing. Financially it's a couple of rungs back down the ladder but the lack of corporate stress more than makes up for that.

None of my progress on the ladder was ever planned. It just happened through word of mouth and a good work ethic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Left school at 15. Lost parents. Had to be one streetwise. Tried many jobs, some more successful than others, but I tried., Travelled the world in my work. Was lucky. Became sub contracted then self employed. Always always kept up high standards and refused to take abuse from others. Became successful and now retired. Hard to but don't look back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A good attitude and willingness to help others goes a long way. Am I where I wanted to be? I'm ok with what I did and continue to do.

These days my perspective is different and I am able to focus on what is really important.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A good attitude and willingness to help others goes a long way. Am I where I wanted to be? I'm ok with what I did and continue to do.

These days my perspective is different and I am able to focus on what is really important. "

Agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did an Apprenticeship in IT when I was 18 just thinking it was a good sector to be in. Got a job for a small software company and did a range of roles as I wasn't 100% sure what I wanted to do full time, and being a small business where people juggled multiple things, it was a good fit.

However, I eventually found something I wanted to do but couldn't do it full time due to the previous responsibilities I had accrued and thought I couldn't do what I wanted full time of I stayed. So after 5 years, I looked for jobs and joined somewhere as a junior working with people just out of Uni while doing what I wanted full time and I got promoted within the year. I'm at a mid-level stage but thinking of moving again as I can't see myself developing more where I currently am.

Sorry if that's a bit long winded

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm on my 4th job in 28 years. Everytime I've left and moved on it was for a step up the ladder.

12 years ago I did 2 masters degrees while at my 3rd position for career advancement. All was well until we got bought out and I decided to go for it and start my own company 5 years ago.

Never looked back and if you'd have asked me 6 years ago I would probably have laughed if anyone suggested I would be where I am now.

Funny how things change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hard work long hours and bang my head against a wall

But it worked out and payed off big time

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By *antra MassageMan
over a year ago

South Side.

I was always lucky. I was very good, and committed early on in my industry, so went into junior management. I loved a challenge, so took on the jobs others shied away from. I suppose i stood out from the average, so whether i excelled or cocked up, I was high profile, and people at the top could see me, and remember my name. This worked to my advantage, when i decided to try overseas work in similar areas. Management knew i was a risk taker, so i excelled in that kind of role. Eventually made senior management, got bored, and left to try something completely different.

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

I genuinely wonder how I’ve got as far as I have.

A mix of smoke and mirrors, charm, bullshit and luck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You climb it one rung at a time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I planned to be a vet from the age of about 9 or 10. Studied and got the required a levels alongside working on farms.

Went to vet school and realised that I hated education more and more. I dropped out.

Someone I knew asked me to run their yard of 18 horses so I did that and considered my options

I went back to uni with the view that I was more mature and should get a career. I hated it and lasted even less time than before

My part time job in the off licence went full time and in a month I became deputy manager. Within a year I was trouble shooting and setting up new stores across the South of England. But then I felt that I wanted to be more strategic and was told it wasn't my turn. So I quit.

A mate suggested recruitment consultancy- did it for a while, hated the sales environment but loved the organisational planning and decided that I should work in HR. So I quit and applied for a basic entry level HR job in local government.

Some years later I'm now in the private sector advising internationally on business and employment law with a health and well-being perspective.

Luck and a willingness to take risks and do what feels right are my keys to success.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't feel guilty if you don't know what you want to do with your life.

The most interesting people I know didn't know at 22 what they wanted to do with their lives

Some of the most interesting 40-year-olds I know still don't"

I still haven't yet. I wanted to be a fireman but I started wearing glasses just as I left school, back then you couldn't join if you wore specs. I've tried all sorts of jobs, been to college, uni and still haven't found anything I really want to do. My problem is I get bored too easily.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

I started at the bottom and progressed up the ladder to where I am now. I’m comfortable to be higher than the middle rung but I didn’t my aspire to be at the top. I always say I have no desire to be close to the gun that fires the bullet! Let someone above me take the hit first lol

Once you get to the top it’s a further fall from Grace if you don’t cut the grain ( as many companies expect and get rid if you dont)

I have a decent salary and I’m well respected by managerial peers that keeps me fairly safe. It’s good for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Right place at the right time

Aka 6th sense management

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I left a Mercedes commercial dealership got fed up with all the crap I had to put up with now for 15 years I have been working for myself mobile mechanic/electrician and enjoy my job every day now yes it’s hard work but rewarding and no management to answer to

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By *KG12Couple
over a year ago

Burnley

Progressed through a number of roles, got made redundant and got offered a great opportunity. Worked hard, and remained impartial to office politics. Most importantly I owned my mistakes and still do.

Integrity is key

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sex baby.

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By *iss.ddWoman
over a year ago

Leeds + Newcastle

I climbed through hard work then built my own ladder and let people try to climb up it.

I.e I did as much as I could without owning the companies I worked for, so I launched my own company many years ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lunch and learn. Never any lunch but you can learn a lot about each others bodies. Comfortable with mid level job but wouldn't turn down an offer thats to good to be true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I started my own business. I’m the boss.

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By *aughty but nice...Man
over a year ago

Staffs

I'll be honest I'm uni drop out with mediocre A level Grades

I've been very fortunate to be in the right place at the right however I work bloody hard at everything I do and I'm top of my game for doing so

Work ethic is just as important as qualifications

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Constantly evolving the role the I'm doing to incorporate more things that no-one else does and finding ways to cut down pointless links in the chain making processes smoother and more efficient.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Before last year I'd spent my adult life after leaving uni falling into different kinds of jobs and never truly knowing what I wanted to do. I tried to switch careers to something completely different and pretty lucrative in 2019, and was actually successful in making the switch, until covid...

So how did you, the people of Fab, get to where you are now? Did you always know what you wanted to do? Or did you have to play the field a little first like me? "

What is it you’re doing, OP? Does it fuel you?

I wanted to be an architect from a young age, but my parents dissuaded me (due to costs) and pushed me into doing an engineering apprenticeship, instead of doing A levels (not that sort, you filthy bastards!) and going to Uni.

I studied mechanical design, did that for a few years, but decided I wanted to be more flexible and moved into project management based work in the Pharma industry. I then got promoted and made a good fist of trying to manage people twice my age - challenging - and it taught me a great deal about people/attitudes. After than I moved into sales (in manufacturing/tech) , spent 3 years doing that, before getting my first “big” job, building a team of product specialists, project and marketing. Learned a great deal in that role, and then got my first stab at a Director role as a direct result of that experience, which I’ve been doing since 2019 and am now looking to secure my first MD role!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have never got anywhere on the career ladder, its never been a priority but is annoying to do all the work & see incompetent people promoted. "

They probably make it their priority though , so….

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn't have any career goals leaving school, nor most of my twenties. Bummed around in manual labour. Then into office work. Then sales. By the time my 30's came around I took a step back and seriously started evaluating my life and what options were open to me. If I stayed where I was I could maybe become a territory sales manager, or office/branch manager. Not really a path that appeals. People there were great. But the actual job... Meh.

So I went back into education. Had always been a tech head, so computer science was the natural choice. Took evening and weekend classes to get my grades up in order to do a foundation year to get into uni. Went part time to do the foundation year. Went into uni full time, treated it like a job, with lots of overtime. And graduated with a first class degree with ease.

Here I am 6 years after having made the decision. 1 1/2 years into my profession as a software dev and I've already doubled my net salary, which was my target when weighing it all up. And the work is immensely interesting. When I put in additional hours now it's cause I'm really into whatever I'm working on. Rather than cause I'm scared of not hitting targets or being understaffed with way too much work. Has worked out to be about a £750k investment if I remain at this wage till retirement age, which fortunately is very unlikely given the options open to me now. And I used to be scared of losing my job and struggling to find work. I'm now being hounded by recruiters from LinkedIn and when I swapped jobs earlier this year I only sent off like 5 applications. 2 weeks later lost the junior Dev title and hit my target wage.

Waffle waffle

put the work in and you can achieve anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't, but I went a bloody long way sideways.....

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By *iaisonseekerMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

It helps if you know where the bodies are buried.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm still climbing it. Every time I get a bit further up, I fall down a few rungs

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Since leaving college I just bimbled from one job to the next, till I got a job at and airport. I started off as a baggage handler, the aircraft handler, before getting a supervisor level job.

I left that job and now slowly working up the ladder.

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace

I kinda bumbled around in different jobs until my early twenties purely for the sake of having a job and money, I fell into the job I'm in now after I randomly applied as I was struggling in my job at the time, 16 years later I'm still there,it suited me when I had my kids as it was easy to reduce hours and fulltime when I could.

I've gained nvq2 qualifications in my role and now work in a supervisor role and I'm slowly moving over into other branch of the company, completed a course in a specific clinical skill and I'm in a support role alongside my normal role and currently in the process of doing a btec level 4 degree and will be part of the clinical team once I pass.

Not the career path I ever saw but I love it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By being absolutely adorably lovable..... To nobody.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Dead end job to dead end job in my 20s. Went back to uni got a career. Not got promoted yet.

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By *ong-leggedblondWoman
over a year ago

Next Door

Apply for a job after quitting a job that wasn't good for my mental health or my values.

Did 3.5yrs in the role and then moved into the account lead for 2 different accounts. After 6 mths I moved back as the account lead for the team I left 6mths earlier.

I'm now spending 50% of my time as a international sales lead implementing a new system across the world.

It's been hard work throughout the last 4yrs but I'm now being rewarded.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

When I started out I watched and observed what others did, both technical and managerial. I saw what they did well and tried to emulate that and what they didn't do so well and tried to do differently and more fairly.

I watched and observed how my superiors dealt with situations and challenges, what they did right and what they did wrong.

Once you've worked with enough people you get a good blend of experience and knowledge to shape your own skills and work-stlye with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm still climbing it. Every time I get a bit further up, I fall down a few rungs

Stop telling the truth. Tell them what you know they want to hear. You'll fly up that pole...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm still climbing it. Every time I get a bit further up, I fall down a few rungs

Stop telling the truth. Tell them what you know they want to hear. You'll fly up that pole...

I'm glad one of us believes that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm still climbing it. Every time I get a bit further up, I fall down a few rungs

Stop telling the truth. Tell them what you know they want to hear. You'll fly up that pole...

I'm glad one of us believes that

Over 40 years of experience. I can play the political game but I refuse to at the cost of a) the job and b) the people who actually put the effort in to make it work.

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Started with a Sinclair ZX81....never looked back after that (I.T.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It kind of happened, never set out to climb up the career ladder but experience, knowledge and qualifications set me up.

Promotions from room leader/Deputy Manager then manager of a Nursery for years before leaving to become an NVQ assessor of Childcare, did that for a couple of years but then wanted to get back into a Nursery, but not as a manager...

Now I am a supervisor, managing a small team instead of the whole Nursery. I am student lead as well. It suits me, low stress and I get to do what I trained for all those years ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My son on the other hand is moving up the ranks in his career quickly. Knowledge and hard work has got him to where he is

He has wanted to develop games since he was small....he left home to study in Dundee, walked right into a job on finishing Uni, 3 years later at the age of 26 he has just been prompted as manager of the scripting team.

He is also mentoring the next gen of developers and was recently invited back to his old University to be the industry professional for the graduates to showcase their work too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My son on the other hand is moving up the ranks in his career quickly. Knowledge and hard work has got him to where he is

He is also mentoring the next gen of developers and was recently invited back to his old University to be the industry professional for the graduates to showcase their work too

That’s really fantastic for your son - good on him. You must be so proud

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

I've been more or less invited to join the management team where I am. I want no part of it, because on the whole, they are fuckwits with a startling level of arrogance whose only discernible function is reinventing the wheel. Plus the fact that I've managed people before and hated it. People are dicks. It's not worth the extra money! I'll happily manage a process or function though. Early in my career the higher and middle management knew what they were doing because they had worked there way up through the company, or industry. Where I am now their ethos is "I don't need to know that, that's what you lot are for". But then they won't listen to those of us who have "negative" things to say and will only listen to certain people who tell them what they want to hear. Thank fuck I'm leaving!

I'll happily stay at the level I am now. I don't need to sit through any more PDRs, 1to1s, vision and mission strategy meetings or any other dick swinging meeting.

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By *iscreett84Man
over a year ago

Longford

Wouldn’t consider what I do a career prospect style line of work, very much has a glass ceiling unless you go self employed, although I’ve worked in the same line for 18 years now I think, in 3 countries, and without any qualifications. Every company outside Ireland offered to sponsor me, including flying me back across the world to do so, and I’ve been employed where I am 4 times now I think….. I started at the bottom, and didn’t rush to get to where I am, but from my experience, it’s not about being the number one in any area, it’s about making yourself invaluable, hard working, fast moving, adaptable and available, prepared to do anything the management need done, experienced enough to be able to do your job, your underlings, and trusted enough to cover for the next in line above you. Too many people have an attitude of trying to do less but expecting more, if you work with an attitude of trying to do more than expected for less, with time, you’ll find yourself in a position where you’ve become such an asset to your employers and company, they’ll not want to ever risk losing you. That’s not to say any of us are irreplaceable, but an employees true value is defined by their ability to make their employers life easier….. and one last thing, If you wanna reach the top, you have to remember, there are a lot of people who don’t want too, but don’t want you to either, so unless a person is a close personal friend outside work, then don’t let them hold you back inside….. ambition is a dangerous trait to have, it threatens people. But Lyon’s don’t stop to think about the opinions of sheep…… hope that’s in at least some way relevant.

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By *iscreett84Man
over a year ago

Longford

That’s awesome!!

fair play to him!! Bet he’s shed a few ‘friends’ along the way though! LOL

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Fell into a job at 18 which I decided to do on a whim. It had a good career structure which over the years saw me get to the top of. Left that job nearly ten years ago and do a less stressful job these days which has a good work life balance. I was lucky.

Jenson

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My son on the other hand is moving up the ranks in his career quickly. Knowledge and hard work has got him to where he is

He is also mentoring the next gen of developers and was recently invited back to his old University to be the industry professional for the graduates to showcase their work too

That’s really fantastic for your son - good on him. You must be so proud

x "

Extremely. He was born in the village we live in, had his own issues and demons to deal with but the strength, resilience and determination has never wavered

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I slept my way to the top.

I was a mattress tester.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Just try and stay in one sector now, dig in a get at least a 5, maybe an 8 or 10 but no more than 12 in one company, you need persistence but not lack of ambition / preference for safety.

Hopefully you are smart and chose a lucrative sector like Pharma, tech or finance, not retail or food. If you really want to increase earnings you will need global experience too, otherwise it could be 20+ years

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By *iscreett84Man
over a year ago

Longford

"I'm still climbing it. Every time I get a bit further up, I fall down a few rungs

At least you keep going!!

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By *iscreett84Man
over a year ago

Longford

This is honestly the most enjoyable read of online content I’ve had anywhere!

no bullshit, genuine recitals of peoples work life experiences!! It does seem to me though, the one thing most of you have in common, is I’d say you all have a bloody good work ethic, and not because you’ve wanted to climb any ladders, but because you have a genuine pride in everything you do and always strive to get good results!

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