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"Grouse shooting season?   "I've not heard them called that before...... | |||
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"Grouse shooting season? "Well I mean we shoot on the 12th, but I dunno if it should be a public holiday like  | |||
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest." If it's a public holiday it's for all the public. | |||
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest." Clown. | |||
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest. Clown." Ooh did I hit a nerve there? | |||
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest." Amen. | |||
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"It's a public holiday across the water. Shouldn't we have it too? I mean they do sing about it being all for England's glory and that. "What is it they have a public holiday for on the Isle of White on the 12th ? | |||
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest." That comment you have made is so wrong and you could get banned for the remark you made regarding shouting a certain something the loudest. | |||
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"This thread could be fun to read once it gets under way, and all the animal rights activists on here get their two penneth worth in. " Animal rights activists? | |||
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"It's an 18th century Irish celebration, If we took on everyone else's battle victory day. Every day would be a bank holiday " You say that like it's a bad thing | |||
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"It's an 18th century Irish celebration, If we took on everyone else's battle victory day. Every day would be a bank holiday You say that like it's a bad thing " Well yes. It's nice to have something to look forward to  | |||
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"It's an 18th century Irish celebration, If we took on everyone else's battle victory day. Every day would be a bank holiday You say that like it's a bad thing Well yes. It's nice to have something to look forward to "And you'd have lots | |||
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"This thread could be fun to read once it gets under way, and all the animal rights activists on here get their two penneth worth in. " I don’t think he’s talking about AUGUST 12th.. I made the same naive mistake ..  | |||
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"This thread could be fun to read once it gets under way, and all the animal rights activists on here get their two penneth worth in. I don’t think he’s talking about AUGUST 12th.. I made the same naive mistake .. "12th July. 
Back in the day, seeing part 1s and part 2s and getting the battalion warning order, then seeing squadies counting on their fingers, then seeing the look of delight on their little faces as the deployment dates sunk in. So happy as they reaslised they'd be getting to see the festivities up close.
I always loved the way the peoples of the emerald isle were so ready to welcome us to join them in their traditional festivities.
As my mate said "why the fuck are we up the fast again on the 12th, WHO'S DAUGHTER DID I KNOCK UP TO DESERVE THIS?!?!"
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest. Clown. Ooh did I hit a nerve there?" oh dear I bet our johnnyboy is one of the offended by everything and repentant for nothing | |||
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"My mistake, I thought I thought that the glorious 12th we were talking about was the date when brazed pheasant served with red current jelly appears back on the menu in good restaurant's. " Do they really serve it on the actual day? I thought it had to rot for a time. In any case, let us not hasten the passage of summer just yet with false alarms such as this one. | |||
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest. Clown. Ooh did I hit a nerve there?oh dear I bet our johnnyboy is one of the offended by everything and repentant for nothing " Hit another nerve eh, you know I'm right. I'm not offended in the slightest, I'm not a Catholic, just pointing out what happens over there and it can not be denied. Basically you're part of society's problem if you think this behaviour is OK. | |||
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest. That comment you have made is so wrong and you could get banned for the remark you made regarding shouting a certain something the loudest. " You've obviously never been to Northern Ireland on the 12th of July then have you? Or you have but you were to busy pissed up to notice what was going on. You can't get banned for stating facts. | |||
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"Grouse shooting season? "Wrong month. You're two months too early for that one. | |||
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"It's an 18th century Irish celebration, If we took on everyone else's battle victory day. Every day would be a bank holiday " Indeed; and if this thread is about the battle of the Boyne - it actually took place on 1st July 1690 (since moved to the 12th after the adoption of the Gregorian calendar) - hence it's the 17th Century. Speaking personally it only serves to perpetuate the sectarian divide in NI. | |||
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"It's an 18th century Irish celebration, If we took on everyone else's battle victory day. Every day would be a bank holiday Indeed; and if this thread is about the battle of the Boyne - it actually took place on 1st July 1690 (since moved to the 12th after the adoption of the Gregorian calendar) - hence it's the 17th Century. Speaking personally it only serves to perpetuate the sectarian divide in NI." And up here in Scotland, especially the west coast. | |||
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"As an agnostic, it seems bizarre that two groups of people who believe basically the same thing are still at each other’s throats 300 years later. What does it gain?" It hasn't been simply about religion for many years. A certain percentage of people are at each others throats. The rest of us are too busy getting on with life and living together peacefully. | |||
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest. That comment you have made is so wrong and you could get banned for the remark you made regarding shouting a certain something the loudest. You've obviously never been to Northern Ireland on the 12th of July then have you? Or you have but you were to busy pissed up to notice what was going on. You can't get banned for stating facts." No clearly you have no brains as shown in your profile pic. You are using foul and abusive, derogatory, language no need for that on here. Also I don’t drink never have done, yes I have played golf in both Northern and Southern Ireland beautiful places, lovely people and fantastic golf courses. | |||
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"It's a public holiday across the water. Shouldn't we have it too? I mean they do sing about it being all for England's glory and that.
What is it they have a public holiday for on the Isle of White on the 12th ?"It's "We've got red squirrels and you haven't" Day. | |||
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"As an agnostic, it seems bizarre that two groups of people who believe basically the same thing are still at each other’s throats 300 years later. What does it gain? It hasn't been simply about religion for many years. A certain percentage of people are at each others throats. The rest of us are too busy getting on with life and living together peacefully. "  | |||
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"It's a public holiday across the water. Shouldn't we have it too? I mean they do sing about it being all for England's glory and that. "Given the recent news about singing of songs and the Orange Order I think this post is in rather bad taste. Especially as for a lot of people this day is a day of hatred towards them. Can not understand why anyone would want to spread that sort of "celebration". | |||
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"It's nothing but an anti-catholic hate filled monstrosity disguised as a celebration. A large proportion of them 'celebrating' don't know their history but hey ho anything for a piss up and see who can shout 'fuck the Pope' the loudest. That comment you have made is so wrong and you could get banned for the remark you made regarding shouting a certain something the loudest. You've obviously never been to Northern Ireland on the 12th of July then have you? Or you have but you were to busy pissed up to notice what was going on. You can't get banned for stating facts. No clearly you have no brains as shown in your profile pic. You are using foul and abusive, derogatory, language no need for that on here. Also I don’t drink never have done, yes I have played golf in both Northern and Southern Ireland beautiful places, lovely people and fantastic golf courses. " The 'FTP' doesn't come from my mouth but simply describing what goes on in Northern Ireland at these hate fests. If you've never witnessed it in person, like myself, then you can't say anything about it then say I have no brains, brainy. | |||
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"It's a public holiday across the water. Shouldn't we have it too? I mean they do sing about it being all for England's glory and that.
Given the recent news about singing of songs and the Orange Order I think this post is in rather bad taste.
Especially as for a lot of people this day is a day of hatred towards them.
Can not understand why anyone would want to spread that sort of "celebration". "Depends on your viewpoint. Some republican peice of trash was whining about unionists getting anoyed some one banged a tricolor up over the assembly. Those 6 counties are British. All the republicans did was brutalise, exploit and hold back their own community and commit atrocities. | |||
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"It's a public holiday across the water. Shouldn't we have it too? I mean they do sing about it being all for England's glory and that.
Given the recent news about singing of songs and the Orange Order I think this post is in rather bad taste.
Especially as for a lot of people this day is a day of hatred towards them.
Can not understand why anyone would want to spread that sort of "celebration".
Depends on your viewpoint.
Some republican peice of trash was whining about unionists getting anoyed some one banged a tricolor up over the assembly.
Those 6 counties are British.
All the republicans did was brutalise, exploit and hold back their own community and commit atrocities.
"I think if you study the full history of the island you may find that the exploitation and atrocities started a bit earlier and by a different party altogether. But let's agree to disagree as you have your views and I have mine as someone who grew up in the North during the troubles are different and we will not solve it here. | |||
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"It's a public holiday across the water. Shouldn't we have it too? I mean they do sing about it being all for England's glory and that.
Given the recent news about singing of songs and the Orange Order I think this post is in rather bad taste.
Especially as for a lot of people this day is a day of hatred towards them.
Can not understand why anyone would want to spread that sort of "celebration".
Depends on your viewpoint.
Some republican peice of trash was whining about unionists getting anoyed some one banged a tricolor up over the assembly.
Those 6 counties are British.
All the republicans did was brutalise, exploit and hold back their own community and commit atrocities.
I think if you study the full history of the island you may find that the exploitation and atrocities started a bit earlier and by a different party altogether.
But let's agree to disagree as you have your views and I have mine as someone who grew up in the North during the troubles are different and we will not solve it here."Go back a bit further in history. St Patrick was ensl@ved by irish raiders, who raided, robbed, murdered and pillaged across the British coast. Stop playing victim. | |||
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"I'm still waiting on someone to answer a question I've asked on here in a few similar threads. The company I used to work for had vehicles hijacked and goods and equipment stolen 24 times in 22 years. I was personally held up 10 times and a gun put to my head and my life threatened on 6 of those ocasions while they were stealing my property. Twice by republican thugs, twice by loyalist thugs and twice by thugs wearing para uniforms. What's the difference and how were those in uniform protecting me while I was trying to do a days work? I could be very bitter but I'm not. Just curious at how some people look at certain actions through rose tinted glasses. " Well to be fair i did 4 tours, 4month tours with one exyended to 6months. We used to patrol constantly and do OPs, VCPs etc. I was told 90% of terrorist acts failed due to the millitary and polices operations. I'd be interested how long ago you got stuck up by paras? And how you knew they were paras? Did they have wings up dz flashes and para smocks on? Cos we all had civilian clothes and sports kit. And they knew pretty much where we were from the minute we were out till we got back. | |||
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"I'm still waiting on someone to answer a question I've asked on here in a few similar threads. The company I used to work for had vehicles hijacked and goods and equipment stolen 24 times in 22 years. I was personally held up 10 times and a gun put to my head and my life threatened on 6 of those ocasions while they were stealing my property. Twice by republican thugs, twice by loyalist thugs and twice by thugs wearing para uniforms. What's the difference and how were those in uniform protecting me while I was trying to do a days work? I could be very bitter but I'm not. Just curious at how some people look at certain actions through rose tinted glasses. Well to be fair i did 4 tours, 4month tours with one exyended to 6months. We used to patrol constantly and do OPs, VCPs etc. I was told 90% of terrorist acts failed due to the millitary and polices operations. I'd be interested how long ago you got stuck up by paras? And how you knew they were paras? Did they have wings up dz flashes and para smocks on? Cos we all had civilian clothes and sports kit. And they knew pretty much where we were from the minute we were out till we got back. " Too true, we stopped off once to take a piss, they asked why we stopped and who was watching! I was a Sig n did a few tours back in the day and none of us ever had our para wings on show when in country. | |||
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"I'm still waiting on someone to answer a question I've asked on here in a few similar threads. The company I used to work for had vehicles hijacked and goods and equipment stolen 24 times in 22 years. I was personally held up 10 times and a gun put to my head and my life threatened on 6 of those ocasions while they were stealing my property. Twice by republican thugs, twice by loyalist thugs and twice by thugs wearing para uniforms. What's the difference and how were those in uniform protecting me while I was trying to do a days work? I could be very bitter but I'm not. Just curious at how some people look at certain actions through rose tinted glasses. Well to be fair i did 4 tours, 4month tours with one exyended to 6months. We used to patrol constantly and do OPs, VCPs etc. I was told 90% of terrorist acts failed due to the millitary and polices operations. I'd be interested how long ago you got stuck up by paras? And how you knew they were paras? Did they have wings up dz flashes and para smocks on? Cos we all had civilian clothes and sports kit. And they knew pretty much where we were from the minute we were out till we got back. " The first time was in 1985 and yes they were in full uniform on a country road and they were picked up by a helicopter as I was searching the ditch for my car keys and driving licence that they had thrown away. I had to explain to my boss why I was missing £100 worth of goods. The second time was in 1987 or 1988 in a side street in Belfast and they only walked away empty handed because the RUC officer with them told them not to be cunts and to give my property back. | |||
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"I'm still waiting on someone to answer a question I've asked on here in a few similar threads. The company I used to work for had vehicles hijacked and goods and equipment stolen 24 times in 22 years. I was personally held up 10 times and a gun put to my head and my life threatened on 6 of those ocasions while they were stealing my property. Twice by republican thugs, twice by loyalist thugs and twice by thugs wearing para uniforms. What's the difference and how were those in uniform protecting me while I was trying to do a days work? I could be very bitter but I'm not. Just curious at how some people look at certain actions through rose tinted glasses. Well to be fair i did 4 tours, 4month tours with one exyended to 6months. We used to patrol constantly and do OPs, VCPs etc. I was told 90% of terrorist acts failed due to the millitary and polices operations. I'd be interested how long ago you got stuck up by paras? And how you knew they were paras? Did they have wings up dz flashes and para smocks on? Cos we all had civilian clothes and sports kit. And they knew pretty much where we were from the minute we were out till we got back. The first time was in 1985 and yes they were in full uniform on a country road and they were picked up by a helicopter as I was searching the ditch for my car keys and driving licence that they had thrown away. I had to explain to my boss why I was missing £100 worth of goods. The second time was in 1987 or 1988 in a side street in Belfast and they only walked away empty handed because the RUC officer with them told them not to be cunts and to give my property back. " I've no idea about insignia but in both cases they were wearing maroon berets. | |||
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"I'm still waiting on someone to answer a question I've asked on here in a few similar threads. The company I used to work for had vehicles hijacked and goods and equipment stolen 24 times in 22 years. I was personally held up 10 times and a gun put to my head and my life threatened on 6 of those ocasions while they were stealing my property. Twice by republican thugs, twice by loyalist thugs and twice by thugs wearing para uniforms. What's the difference and how were those in uniform protecting me while I was trying to do a days work? I could be very bitter but I'm not. Just curious at how some people look at certain actions through rose tinted glasses. Well to be fair i did 4 tours, 4month tours with one exyended to 6months. We used to patrol constantly and do OPs, VCPs etc. I was told 90% of terrorist acts failed due to the millitary and polices operations. I'd be interested how long ago you got stuck up by paras? And how you knew they were paras? Did they have wings up dz flashes and para smocks on? Cos we all had civilian clothes and sports kit. And they knew pretty much where we were from the minute we were out till we got back. Too true, we stopped off once to take a piss, they asked why we stopped and who was watching! I was a Sig n did a few tours back in the day and none of us ever had our para wings on show when in country." We weren't airborne but we took off any rank, battalion or brigade markings, and a lot of lads wore para smocks, sas smocks, arctic windproofs, anything in DPM was allowed. Except tropics, they tend to melt. We had to keep a set of 90 temperates when 95 was issued for across there due to synthetics. I know some regiments made guys and girls wear issued to you kit only but some were more relaxed. You'd still be likely to get punched if your first aid was in the wrong place or you weren't carrying the right kit. | |||
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"I'm still waiting on someone to answer a question I've asked on here in a few similar threads. The company I used to work for had vehicles hijacked and goods and equipment stolen 24 times in 22 years. I was personally held up 10 times and a gun put to my head and my life threatened on 6 of those ocasions while they were stealing my property. Twice by republican thugs, twice by loyalist thugs and twice by thugs wearing para uniforms. What's the difference and how were those in uniform protecting me while I was trying to do a days work? I could be very bitter but I'm not. Just curious at how some people look at certain actions through rose tinted glasses. Well to be fair i did 4 tours, 4month tours with one exyended to 6months. We used to patrol constantly and do OPs, VCPs etc. I was told 90% of terrorist acts failed due to the millitary and polices operations. I'd be interested how long ago you got stuck up by paras? And how you knew they were paras? Did they have wings up dz flashes and para smocks on? Cos we all had civilian clothes and sports kit. And they knew pretty much where we were from the minute we were out till we got back. The first time was in 1985 and yes they were in full uniform on a country road and they were picked up by a helicopter as I was searching the ditch for my car keys and driving licence that they had thrown away. I had to explain to my boss why I was missing £100 worth of goods. The second time was in 1987 or 1988 in a side street in Belfast and they only walked away empty handed because the RUC officer with them told them not to be cunts and to give my property back. I've no idea about insignia but in both cases they were wearing maroon berets. " That's a bit brazen 
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"Just in regard to knowing where you were at all times. How does that explain the number of times that checkpoints were set up on the wrong side of the border and they were asked to move by the Gardai? Or the half dozen times I was stopped twice within 500 metres and neither group not knowing the other was just around the bend until someone drew their attention to it? Or the speedboat landing in a small village in the Irish republic and people challenged on the street? It wasn't always a smooth operation. " Hey don't blame me if their OPs room was a mess. I believe by the 90s it was completely different to the 70s and 80s. We all had cougar radios for a start. | |||
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"You were told where to patrol, even in rural areas or maybe especially in rural areas you would supply your route to the ops room. I'm assuming anyone crossing the border was ignoring orders or lost. And the Garda wouldn't ask you to move on, they'd arrest you for having guns and stuff in their country. " I doubt very much if a couple of unarmed Gardai in a village station would be in a position to or have the inclination to arrest a group of armed men. | |||
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"You were told where to patrol, even in rural areas or maybe especially in rural areas you would supply your route to the ops room. I'm assuming anyone crossing the border was ignoring orders or lost. And the Garda wouldn't ask you to move on, they'd arrest you for having guns and stuff in their country. I doubt very much if a couple of unarmed Gardai in a village station would be in a position to or have the inclination to arrest a group of armed men. " It's not like you can shoot them, they count your ammo. Plus the Irish army patroled their side of the border. | |||
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