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Car tyre emissions are 2000 times worse than exhaust emissions

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
over a year ago

nearby

Research from emissions analysts reveals car tyre particulates, through road wear produces more harmful toxic particulates than from exhausts.

2000 times worse

So if Uk had 32 million electric cars instead of currently 32 million petrol and diesel ones, the tyres will still produce the equivalent pollution of 64 billion cars (that’s just the UK)

Globally there are one billion cars, scaling up that wound be equivalent pollution of 2 trillion vehicles.

What does this say for the rush to go green, electric vehicles etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not all as green as they are making out.

Great post

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
over a year ago

Wales/ All over UK


"

Research from emissions analysts reveals car tyre particulates, through road wear produces more harmful toxic particulates than from exhausts.

2000 times worse

So if Uk had 32 million electric cars instead of currently 32 million petrol and diesel ones, the tyres will still produce the equivalent pollution of 64 billion cars (that’s just the UK)

Globally there are one billion cars, scaling up that wound be equivalent pollution of 2 trillion vehicles.

What does this say for the rush to go green, electric vehicles etc. "

Where is this research from please?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not all as green as they are making out.

Great post "

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By *ustauseerTV/TS
over a year ago

Sedgemoor

Cars as a whole, suck for emissions. We need to look at better mass transit in this country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Research from emissions analysts reveals car tyre particulates, through road wear produces more harmful toxic particulates than from exhausts.

2000 times worse

So if Uk had 32 million electric cars instead of currently 32 million petrol and diesel ones, the tyres will still produce the equivalent pollution of 64 billion cars (that’s just the UK)

Globally there are one billion cars, scaling up that wound be equivalent pollution of 2 trillion vehicles.

What does this say for the rush to go green, electric vehicles etc. "

I didn’t realise conventional cars didn’t use tyres lol.

Maybe a second study needs to be undertaken.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The heavier electric vehicles do wear tyres quicker

And not to mention the consequences and heavier weights in potential crashes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Research from emissions analysts reveals car tyre particulates, through road wear produces more harmful toxic particulates than from exhausts.

2000 times worse

So if Uk had 32 million electric cars instead of currently 32 million petrol and diesel ones, the tyres will still produce the equivalent pollution of 64 billion cars (that’s just the UK)

Globally there are one billion cars, scaling up that wound be equivalent pollution of 2 trillion vehicles.

What does this say for the rush to go green, electric vehicles etc.

I didn’t realise conventional cars didn’t use tyres lol.

Maybe a second study needs to be undertaken."

He never said they don't use tyres

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
over a year ago

nearby


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Where is this research from please?

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Emission Analytics . Com

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

And the 'forever chemicals' are atrocious . The consequences of matter that's emitted or consumed, are little understood.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let’s not for get events like summer nats

And cleetus and cars

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
over a year ago

Wales/ All over UK

So basically, replace all ICE vehicles with Electric and you still get roughly the same particulates emissions from the tires.

You do however eliminate all of the exhaust emissions still, so overall there is a reduction in emissions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So basically, replace all ICE vehicles with Electric and you still get roughly the same particulates emissions from the tires.

You do however eliminate all of the exhaust emissions still, so overall there is a reduction in emissions "

Is that correct when all the factors to produce electric vehicles are taken into account

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
over a year ago

nearby


"So basically, replace all ICE vehicles with Electric and you still get roughly the same particulates emissions from the tires.

You do however eliminate all of the exhaust emissions still, so overall there is a reduction in emissions "

1/2000th less

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
over a year ago

Wales/ All over UK


"So basically, replace all ICE vehicles with Electric and you still get roughly the same particulates emissions from the tires.

You do however eliminate all of the exhaust emissions still, so overall there is a reduction in emissions

Is that correct when all the factors to produce electric vehicles are taken into account

"

Yes… because when people start to make comparisons with how much pollution is created in making electric cars and producing electricity, they always conveniently forget to include the pollution created from MAKING petrol and diesel to fuel ICE cars…

It takes massive amounts of energy and emissions just to get Petrol and Diesel in the first place, and that’s before you burn it in an engine

I should know, Oil refining is my job

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
over a year ago

Wales/ All over UK


"So basically, replace all ICE vehicles with Electric and you still get roughly the same particulates emissions from the tires.

You do however eliminate all of the exhaust emissions still, so overall there is a reduction in emissions

1/2000th less "

Just looked the study up, it actually says “potentially up to 1000 times more” not 2000

It also states that Non Exhaust Emissions (NEEs) are currently believed to constitute the majority of primary particulate matter from road transport, 60 percent of PM2.5 and 73 percent of PM10 …. So replacing ICE cars would mean a 40% and 27% reduction respectively

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
over a year ago

nearby


"So basically, replace all ICE vehicles with Electric and you still get roughly the same particulates emissions from the tires.

You do however eliminate all of the exhaust emissions still, so overall there is a reduction in emissions

1/2000th less

Just looked the study up, it actually says “potentially up to 1000 times more” not 2000

It also states that Non Exhaust Emissions (NEEs) are currently believed to constitute the majority of primary particulate matter from road transport, 60 percent of PM2.5 and 73 percent of PM10 …. So replacing ICE cars would mean a 40% and 27% reduction respectively

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2000 is the printed headline

Did you read the methodology, analysis and data collection

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I came up with the perfect cure for the environment but the big heads wont use it

Use all the waste plastics and melt it down for roads afterall it lives forever and they dont need to pay for roadworks every other street

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By *ig_time_CharlieMan
over a year ago

Cambridge and London


"So basically, replace all ICE vehicles with Electric and you still get roughly the same particulates emissions from the tires.

You do however eliminate all of the exhaust emissions still, so overall there is a reduction in emissions

Is that correct when all the factors to produce electric vehicles are taken into account

Yes… because when people start to make comparisons with how much pollution is created in making electric cars and producing electricity, they always conveniently forget to include the pollution created from MAKING petrol and diesel to fuel ICE cars…

It takes massive amounts of energy and emissions just to get Petrol and Diesel in the first place, and that’s before you burn it in an engine

I should know, Oil refining is my job "

Aren't you forgetting the damage to the planet in making batteries for electric cars?

And what about how the electricity is made to power electric cars?

I worked for a vehicle manufacturer and it was proved that when these are taken into consideration, an electric car has to do 55000 miles before it is any 'cleaner' than a diesel equivalent.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
over a year ago

nearby


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And what about how the electricity is made to power electric cars?

I worked for a vehicle manufacturer and it was proved that when these are taken into consideration, an electric car has to do 55000 miles before it is any 'cleaner' than a diesel equivalent. "

Interesting, so if average uk mileage is 9,000 a year (VOSA)

It takes 6 years at least then for EV to be environmentally beneficial.

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By *ig_time_CharlieMan
over a year ago

Cambridge and London


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And what about how the electricity is made to power electric cars?

I worked for a vehicle manufacturer and it was proved that when these are taken into consideration, an electric car has to do 55000 miles before it is any 'cleaner' than a diesel equivalent.

Interesting, so if average uk mileage is 9,000 a year (VOSA)

It takes 6 years at least then for EV to be environmentally beneficial. "

Yeah, and all the people who do 5000 miles a year in their electric car thinking they are saving the planet.....

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