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"Where is the source of this statement?" NBC News | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy?" Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " Bollocks  | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " I work so much better at my own pace. Give me a task and I'll get it done to the best of my ability but I don't need to work harder or faster because someone says so | |||
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"...In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " What is the source of this statement? Its certainly not correct in my experience. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " Total and utter crap. Insulting to people who work from home. | |||
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"...In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. What is the source of this statement? Its certainly not correct in my experience. " It's human nature. So sad but so true. Would you like an example? | |||
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"...What is the source of this statement? " Sorry, maybe I should elaborate. When making claims such as this, its best to quote the particular study that evidenced it, e.g Something like 'according to the study done by Gartner in 2022, published in the journal of xxx January 2022...xxx. then people can go and check the research and see if applies in their area  | |||
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"That's a bold statement to make. If anything I'm more productive being home-based as it stops idiots from approaching my desk rather than booking meetings for my time." I've heard loads say that but they're never available when you try to contact them. | |||
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"...In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. What is the source of this statement? Its certainly not correct in my experience. It's human nature. So sad but so true. Would you like an example? " I'd like to hear this in support your statement, better be a good example though | |||
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"....It's human nature. So sad but so true. Would you like an example? " No, an example demonstrates a single instance. I'd like a peer reviewed study, where I can check the results. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " Troll confirmed. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " My son in law has worked at home since the start of Covid he works longer hours and takes less break. Even his boss says the whole companies production is at an all time high and the firm saving lots of cash as their office virtually empty. So no idea how you have the right to call people working from home LAZY | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " Funny how a lot of companies have realised the complete opposite is true. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. Funny how a lot of companies have realised the complete opposite is true." Yeah. I know of a dozen or so companies, ranging from small to multi billion in value that have completely got rid of their large offices and gone fully remote. A few hire flexible workspaces for those who still want to go into an office environment occasionally | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. Funny how a lot of companies have realised the complete opposite is true. Yeah. I know of a dozen or so companies, ranging from small to multi billion in value that have completely got rid of their large offices and gone fully remote. A few hire flexible workspaces for those who still want to go into an office environment occasionally " The saving in rent and utilities alone must be huge | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. Funny how a lot of companies have realised the complete opposite is true. Yeah. I know of a dozen or so companies, ranging from small to multi billion in value that have completely got rid of their large offices and gone fully remote. A few hire flexible workspaces for those who still want to go into an office environment occasionally " My sisters company are giving staff a choice. They’ve relocated to smaller offices so more staff can WFH. | |||
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"The big drawback to working from home is not being able to talk bollocks all day and wrestle with your colleagues. That doesn't strike me as productive.
Winston "Exactly my point (one of) for those lazy buggers to stop hiding at home making out Thier working when their watching porn. | |||
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"The big drawback to working from home is not being able to talk bollocks all day and wrestle with your colleagues. That doesn't strike me as productive.
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Exactly my point (one of) for those lazy buggers to stop hiding at home making out Thier working when their watching porn. "Can I ask you what you think WFH entails in most roles? | |||
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"The big drawback to working from home is not being able to talk bollocks all day and wrestle with your colleagues. That doesn't strike me as productive.
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Exactly my point (one of) for those lazy buggers to stop hiding at home making out Thier working when their watching porn.
Can I ask you what you think WFH entails in most roles? "Sitting in front of the TV with music on and talking to family and friends about what to talk about? | |||
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"The big drawback to working from home is not being able to talk bollocks all day and wrestle with your colleagues. That doesn't strike me as productive.
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Exactly my point (one of) for those lazy buggers to stop hiding at home making out Thier working when their watching porn.
Can I ask you what you think WFH entails in most roles?
Sitting in front of the TV with music on and talking to family and friends about what to talk about? "I see. Do you know anyone who WFH? | |||
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"The big drawback to working from home is not being able to talk bollocks all day and wrestle with your colleagues. That doesn't strike me as productive.
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Exactly my point (one of) for those lazy buggers to stop hiding at home making out Thier working when their watching porn.
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Sitting in front of the TV with music on and talking to family and friends about what to talk about? " this probably says as much about how you'd take on responsibility as anything else ... | |||
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"That's a bold statement to make. If anything I'm more productive being home-based as it stops idiots from approaching my desk rather than booking meetings for my time." Me too. But employers do have the right to set reasonable terms and conditions. I don't think this needs to happen but they do have the right. | |||
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"Has anyone ever seen Tom and Toan in the same room? " Who is Thom? | |||
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"Great. Let him lose the majority of his workforce "That's fair. | |||
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"So many people still worship this guy, and I can't figure out why." He has this huge following who think that he's marvellous. Personally speaking, I think that he comes across as an entitled brat who never grew up. | |||
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"The big drawback to working from home is not being able to talk bollocks all day and wrestle with your colleagues. That doesn't strike me as productive.
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Exactly my point (one of) for those lazy buggers to stop hiding at home making out Thier working when their watching porn. "Don't judge everybody else by what you do. Troll. | |||
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"I've been WFH 2 days per week since my acquired disability, so since 2017. The other 3 days are from a college. During COVID lockdowns, it was 100% WFH. I work incredibly hard. On Tuesday, I started at 09:30 from my own home. I didn't move from my desk till 13:00 (to go to the loo). At 13:30, I used my "lunch break" to drive to my Dad's house. At 14:30, I'd pitched up at Dads and carried on working. I ate a sandwich whilst working. I finished at 18:30 and went straight to visit my Dad in hospital. I got back to his house at 20:30, had a microwave dinner and started work again at 21:00. I finally finished at 22:30 and went to bed. I then drove from his house early the next morning, to the college in Manchester and worked another full 8hr day without a proper break. " On the plus side, you didn’t have to have an hours commute each way on top of your shift. I’m not knocking WFH but most of us put in an 8/9 hr shift plus commute and still have to fit in family commitments, dinner etc. once we get home. If I was WFH I’d be getting all my housework done in between meetings and work so my evenings would be more relaxing. Swings and roundabouts. Lou x | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " If senior management worked half as hard as most people, then those they're shouting at could actually have a reasonable workload | |||
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"I've been WFH 2 days per week since my acquired disability, so since 2017. The other 3 days are from a college. During COVID lockdowns, it was 100% WFH. I work incredibly hard. On Tuesday, I started at 09:30 from my own home. I didn't move from my desk till 13:00 (to go to the loo). At 13:30, I used my "lunch break" to drive to my Dad's house. At 14:30, I'd pitched up at Dads and carried on working. I ate a sandwich whilst working. I finished at 18:30 and went straight to visit my Dad in hospital. I got back to his house at 20:30, had a microwave dinner and started work again at 21:00. I finally finished at 22:30 and went to bed. I then drove from his house early the next morning, to the college in Manchester and worked another full 8hr day without a proper break. On the plus side, you didn’t have to have an hours commute each way on top of your shift. I’m not knocking WFH but most of us put in an 8/9 hr shift plus commute and still have to fit in family commitments, dinner etc. once we get home. If I was WFH I’d be getting all my housework done in between meetings and work so my evenings would be more relaxing. Swings and roundabouts. Lou x " My WFH two days a week is due to disability. I commute into my workplace 3x a week, including on Wednesday morning. But on Wednesday morning, it was from a lot further away than normal due to the fact I'd had to visit my Dad (broken neck, in hospital). My commute can be anything from 45mins to 2hrs, depending on how many people have crashed on the M60 and if Man City/U are playing an evening match at home. | |||
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"Great. Let him lose the majority of his workforce "A workforce to someone in his position is just a 'replaceable asset' He will simply find new staff who are prepared to do it. As cut-throat as it is, these are not decisions to make anyone popular, they are decisions that make you a billionaire... | |||
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"I've been WFH 2 days per week since my acquired disability, so since 2017. The other 3 days are from a college. During COVID lockdowns, it was 100% WFH. I work incredibly hard. On Tuesday, I started at 09:30 from my own home. I didn't move from my desk till 13:00 (to go to the loo). At 13:30, I used my "lunch break" to drive to my Dad's house. At 14:30, I'd pitched up at Dads and carried on working. I ate a sandwich whilst working. I finished at 18:30 and went straight to visit my Dad in hospital. I got back to his house at 20:30, had a microwave dinner and started work again at 21:00. I finally finished at 22:30 and went to bed. I then drove from his house early the next morning, to the college in Manchester and worked another full 8hr day without a proper break. On the plus side, you didn’t have to have an hours commute each way on top of your shift. I’m not knocking WFH but most of us put in an 8/9 hr shift plus commute and still have to fit in family commitments, dinner etc. once we get home. If I was WFH I’d be getting all my housework done in between meetings and work so my evenings would be more relaxing. Swings and roundabouts. Lou x My WFH two days a week is due to disability. I commute into my workplace 3x a week, including on Wednesday morning. But on Wednesday morning, it was from a lot further away than normal due to the fact I'd had to visit my Dad (broken neck, in hospital). My commute can be anything from 45mins to 2hrs, depending on how many people have crashed on the M60 and if Man City/U are playing an evening match at home. " Sorry to hear about your dad. However, our employers can’t be responsible for what we need to do in our personal lives. They pay us to do a job, if we don’t like it we have to look at other options. It’s not nice but that’s the reality. We’re both in roles which don’t permit WFH and we worked throughout covid but we’re just grateful to still have secure jobs. It’s an employers market. Best wishes to your dad. Lou x | |||
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"I've been WFH 2 days per week since my acquired disability, so since 2017. The other 3 days are from a college. During COVID lockdowns, it was 100% WFH. I work incredibly hard. On Tuesday, I started at 09:30 from my own home. I didn't move from my desk till 13:00 (to go to the loo). At 13:30, I used my "lunch break" to drive to my Dad's house. At 14:30, I'd pitched up at Dads and carried on working. I ate a sandwich whilst working. I finished at 18:30 and went straight to visit my Dad in hospital. I got back to his house at 20:30, had a microwave dinner and started work again at 21:00. I finally finished at 22:30 and went to bed. I then drove from his house early the next morning, to the college in Manchester and worked another full 8hr day without a proper break. On the plus side, you didn’t have to have an hours commute each way on top of your shift. I’m not knocking WFH but most of us put in an 8/9 hr shift plus commute and still have to fit in family commitments, dinner etc. once we get home. If I was WFH I’d be getting all my housework done in between meetings and work so my evenings would be more relaxing. Swings and roundabouts. Lou x My WFH two days a week is due to disability. I commute into my workplace 3x a week, including on Wednesday morning. But on Wednesday morning, it was from a lot further away than normal due to the fact I'd had to visit my Dad (broken neck, in hospital). My commute can be anything from 45mins to 2hrs, depending on how many people have crashed on the M60 and if Man City/U are playing an evening match at home. Sorry to hear about your dad. However, our employers can’t be responsible for what we need to do in our personal lives. They pay us to do a job, if we don’t like it we have to look at other options. It’s not nice but that’s the reality. We’re both in roles which don’t permit WFH and we worked throughout covid but we’re just grateful to still have secure jobs. It’s an employers market. Best wishes to your dad. Lou x " You've missed the bit where I still commute to a workplace on 3 out of 5 days of the week. And the fact my WFH agreement started due to my acquired disability. If that hadn't have been available, I'd probably have finished up quitting and becoming one of those irritating burdens on the state. WFH enables me to keep on paying my tax etc. | |||
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"I don't understand the animosity towards people who work from home. Initially many had no choice, they were simply told to by Boris Johnson and their employers. If they now have a choice to remain working from home and decide to do that I genuinely can't see a problem." Exactly. It’s impossible for me to work from home and to be honest I couldn’t do it. My daily 10 hours out the house keeps me sane. At the end of the day it’s still work and if you weren’t pulling your weight you’d be disciplined. No different from a normal day at work apart from no human contact. | |||
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"I don't understand the animosity towards people who work from home. Initially many had no choice, they were simply told to by Boris Johnson and their employers. If they now have a choice to remain working from home and decide to do that I genuinely can't see a problem. I totally agree! Exactly. It’s impossible for me to work from home and to be honest I couldn’t do it. My daily 10 hours out the house keeps me sane. At the end of the day it’s still work and if you weren’t pulling your weight you’d be disciplined. No different from a normal day at work apart from no human contact." | |||
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"I don't understand the animosity towards people who work from home. Initially many had no choice, they were simply told to by Boris Johnson and their employers. If they now have a choice to remain working from home and decide to do that I genuinely can't see a problem."  people arguing for the sake of it again. It's between a company and their staff what they do. And lets face it, if you don’t know what your staff are doing, then there obviously an issue with hiw you manage their work. I know several companies who actually want many of their staff to work from home for a variety of reasons and works well for both sides. Wfh is not a new concept and lots of people did that long before any pandemic. All the people wfh I know ofen put more hours in than their colleagues working later into the evening than would have done of were in the office. All you could say is they save travelling time. | |||
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"The big drawback to working from home is not being able to talk bollocks all day and wrestle with your colleagues. That doesn't strike me as productive.
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"I don't understand the animosity towards people who work from home. Initially many had no choice, they were simply told to by Boris Johnson and their employers. If they now have a choice to remain working from home and decide to do that I genuinely can't see a problem." I suppose it's the law of unintended consequences- by encouraging WFH a lot of funding has been lost from the public purse and from small businesses. Some will use that argument for encouraging a return to the office. | |||
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"...by encouraging WFH a lot of funding has been lost from the public purse and from small businesses. Some will use that argument for encouraging a return to the office. " It's a 2 edged sword. I recently did some work at a local council. One advantage they gained from wfh was that they were able to sell off various council buildings that they no longer need. On the other side, the local shops suffered by the reduced footfall. Ultimately, times change. It's futile to try to stop change, it happens whether we like it or not. Really all we can do is adapt. | |||
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"I don't understand the animosity towards people who work from home. Initially many had no choice, they were simply told to by Boris Johnson and their employers. If they now have a choice to remain working from home and decide to do that I genuinely can't see a problem." Jealousy for the most part. I'm more productive from home than I ever was in an office environment. | |||
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"Too right. Get back to work. Lazy buggers. " lol yes because we’re doing a couple of hours then sitting back and relaxing!!!! Working from home has spawned a different work ethic answering emails and the like at past 10pm most days !!! But still only paid salary and not claiming electric and broadband costs…..so lazy | |||
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"...by encouraging WFH a lot of funding has been lost from the public purse and from small businesses. Some will use that argument for encouraging a return to the office. It's a 2 edged sword. I recently did some work at a local council. One advantage they gained from wfh was that they were able to sell off various council buildings that they no longer need. On the other side, the local shops suffered by the reduced footfall. Ultimately, times change. It's futile to try to stop change, it happens whether we like it or not. Really all we can do is adapt." True, change is change. I just wonder how the black hole in the public transport funding will be filled. It's very bad in London, TFL are in such dire straits that some bus routes are being cut | |||
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"...by encouraging WFH a lot of funding has been lost from the public purse and from small businesses. Some will use that argument for encouraging a return to the office. It's a 2 edged sword. I recently did some work at a local council. One advantage they gained from wfh was that they were able to sell off various council buildings that they no longer need. On the other side, the local shops suffered by the reduced footfall. Ultimately, times change. It's futile to try to stop change, it happens whether we like it or not. Really all we can do is adapt. True, change is change. I just wonder how the black hole in the public transport funding will be filled. It's very bad in London, TFL are in such dire straits that some bus routes are being cut " Another reason why we need them out the house and 'back to work'. Anyway I don't think it's good for your health to be stuck in doors for years on end. | |||
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"...by encouraging WFH a lot of funding has been lost from the public purse and from small businesses. Some will use that argument for encouraging a return to the office. It's a 2 edged sword. I recently did some work at a local council. One advantage they gained from wfh was that they were able to sell off various council buildings that they no longer need. On the other side, the local shops suffered by the reduced footfall. Ultimately, times change. It's futile to try to stop change, it happens whether we like it or not. Really all we can do is adapt. True, change is change. I just wonder how the black hole in the public transport funding will be filled. It's very bad in London, TFL are in such dire straits that some bus routes are being cut Another reason why we need them out the house and 'back to work'. Anyway I don't think it's good for your health to be stuck in doors for years on end. " They are working. The location makes no difference. | |||
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"...by encouraging WFH a lot of funding has been lost from the public purse and from small businesses. Some will use that argument for encouraging a return to the office. It's a 2 edged sword. I recently did some work at a local council. One advantage they gained from wfh was that they were able to sell off various council buildings that they no longer need. On the other side, the local shops suffered by the reduced footfall. Ultimately, times change. It's futile to try to stop change, it happens whether we like it or not. Really all we can do is adapt. True, change is change. I just wonder how the black hole in the public transport funding will be filled. It's very bad in London, TFL are in such dire straits that some bus routes are being cut Another reason why we need them out the house and 'back to work'. Anyway I don't think it's good for your health to be stuck in doors for years on end. They are working. The location makes no difference. " Your chances of standing out from the crowd and getting that promotion will be greatly reduced wfh. | |||
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"...I just wonder how the black hole in the public transport funding will be filled. It's very bad in London, TFL are in such dire straits that some bus routes are being cut " Not just tfl; but saying the answer is to ignore change and everything to go back to the way it was is not the answer. | |||
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"...I just wonder how the black hole in the public transport funding will be filled. It's very bad in London, TFL are in such dire straits that some bus routes are being cut Not just tfl; but saying the answer is to ignore change and everything to go back to the way it was is not the answer." Yes, there are real benefits to WFH (for some) as well as drawbacks (for others). It's finding the balance, one group of workers should not be made worse off (increased transport costs or reduced services) because another group of workers has benefitted. | |||
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"...Anyway I don't think it's good for your health to be stuck in doors for years on end. " That doesn't make any sense. Its not good to be stuck indoors, so go back to work from indoors? Working from home I've worked from the garden quite often in the summer. I've also had the opportunity to go for a run or bike before work, and not travelling huge distances makes it easy to go swimming of an evening. So by your argument it's way healthier to work from home? | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " And what actual experience do you have for you to write this nonsense? | |||
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"...by encouraging WFH a lot of funding has been lost from the public purse and from small businesses. Some will use that argument for encouraging a return to the office. It's a 2 edged sword. I recently did some work at a local council. One advantage they gained from wfh was that they were able to sell off various council buildings that they no longer need. On the other side, the local shops suffered by the reduced footfall. Ultimately, times change. It's futile to try to stop change, it happens whether we like it or not. Really all we can do is adapt. True, change is change. I just wonder how the black hole in the public transport funding will be filled. It's very bad in London, TFL are in such dire straits that some bus routes are being cut Another reason why we need them out the house and 'back to work'. Anyway I don't think it's good for your health to be stuck in doors for years on end. They are working. The location makes no difference. Your chances of standing out from the crowd and getting that promotion will be greatly reduced wfh." My chances of promotion are non existent I'm retired .
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"...Anyway I don't think it's good for your health to be stuck in doors for years on end. That doesn't make any sense. Its not good to be stuck indoors, so go back to work from indoors? Working from home I've worked from the garden quite often in the summer. I've also had the opportunity to go for a run or bike before work, and not travelling huge distances makes it easy to go swimming of an evening. So by your argument it's way healthier to work from home? " That's a great point. However we still need you back in the office. We need the economy back in full throttle. Macro economices. Everyone benefits as a whole. | |||
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"The jury is out as to whether wfh is more or less productive . I think it depends on individuals also and what the environment is like . I watch catch up tv when wfh so I am not more productive personally . One thing is certain from studies I have read , you are less likely to get promoted when wfh " This was never about promotion but people who have been at home for the last 2 years. And now Thier employers want them back 'at work'. Unfortunately it seems their all kicking and screaming like spoilt children. Honestly. | |||
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"...Anyway I don't think it's good for your health to be stuck in doors for years on end. That doesn't make any sense. Its not good to be stuck indoors, so go back to work from indoors? Working from home I've worked from the garden quite often in the summer. I've also had the opportunity to go for a run or bike before work, and not travelling huge distances makes it easy to go swimming of an evening. So by your argument it's way healthier to work from home? That's a great point. However we still need you back in the office. We need the economy back in full throttle. Macro economices. Everyone benefits as a whole. " if people are working at home then who isn't at full throttle? We are back to pret and Starbucks.... But people still may want coffee and sandwiches ... I can see the rebirth of the local high Street if people are working in their local area .... | |||
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"...Anyway I don't think it's good for your health to be stuck in doors for years on end. That doesn't make any sense. Its not good to be stuck indoors, so go back to work from indoors? Working from home I've worked from the garden quite often in the summer. I've also had the opportunity to go for a run or bike before work, and not travelling huge distances makes it easy to go swimming of an evening. So by your argument it's way healthier to work from home? That's a great point. However we still need you back in the office. We need the economy back in full throttle. Macro economices. Everyone benefits as a whole. if people are working at home then who isn't at full throttle? We are back to pret and Starbucks.... But people still may want coffee and sandwiches ... I can see the rebirth of the local high Street if people are working in their local area .... " Okay I really didn't want to get to this, but the fact is, it's just not healthy for humans to be stuck indoors for the rest of humanity. Soon we'll be like cave dwellers. Only coming out for essentials. Is it right for children to be taught at home rather than out with their peers? I can't believe people are actually kicking a fuss just because they are being ASKED not forced to return to their real work place. | |||
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" The people I know who WFH have either been asked to do WFH permanently, asked to go back to the office, given a choice of office one or two days a week home three or four days or given a choice of office full time/home full time. I wonder why Elon feels it necessary to issue an ultimatum rather than just say everyone has to go back in. He sounds like an arse to me" He is, i believe he thinks hes far above everyone else and enjoys using the public as 'pawns'. This is seen in hes tweets, especially his cryptocurrency tweets he posts... uses the naive to pump certain coins the he dumps making huge profit and posts a pee taking tweet that contradicts what he wrote on the first. Awful bloke | |||
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" The people I know who WFH have either been asked to do WFH permanently, asked to go back to the office, given a choice of office one or two days a week home three or four days or given a choice of office full time/home full time. I wonder why Elon feels it necessary to issue an ultimatum rather than just say everyone has to go back in. He sounds like an arse to me He is, i believe he thinks hes far above everyone else and enjoys using the public as 'pawns'. This is seen in hes tweets, especially his cryptocurrency tweets he posts... uses the naive to pump certain coins the he dumps making huge profit and posts a pee taking tweet that contradicts what he wrote on the first. Awful bloke "I will never forget the way he spoke about that brave diver who helped rescue the young lads stuck in a flooded cave. I wouldn't be working for him in the first place and if I was and he issued me with a public ultimatum I'd walk | |||
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"...Anyway I don't think it's good for your health to be stuck in doors for years on end. That doesn't make any sense. Its not good to be stuck indoors, so go back to work from indoors? Working from home I've worked from the garden quite often in the summer. I've also had the opportunity to go for a run or bike before work, and not travelling huge distances makes it easy to go swimming of an evening. So by your argument it's way healthier to work from home? That's a great point. However we still need you back in the office. We need the economy back in full throttle. Macro economices. Everyone benefits as a whole. if people are working at home then who isn't at full throttle? We are back to pret and Starbucks.... But people still may want coffee and sandwiches ... I can see the rebirth of the local high Street if people are working in their local area .... Okay I really didn't want to get to this, but the fact is, it's just not healthy for humans to be stuck indoors for the rest of humanity. Soon we'll be like cave dwellers. Only coming out for essentials. Is it right for children to be taught at home rather than out with their peers? I can't believe people are actually kicking a fuss just because they are being ASKED not forced to return to their real work place. " another side track. Okay. I do when I'm in the office. I probably see more people as can do more in the evenings when I don't have a commute. I didn't realise being sat in an air-conditioned office was so important to my health, and I lacked the skills to address any issues. (As always, it tends to reflect in the psoter who raises these issues) Is home based schooling really on the tables ? I'd agree that's not helpful... But feels like a straw man. Tbh, people are kicking up a fuss at the suggestion they aren't productive at home. I suspect many are okay with going back to the office if asked. But it's when companies say it's because we haven't been good enough... That irks people. Ppl will vote with their feet here. It will be an interesting few years imo. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " In a previous company I worked with a man, let's call him Martin because that was his name. Every morning Martin would turn up on time with two takeout coffees and a copy of the telegraph. He'd log in to his computer, put his jacket over the back of the chair, then take one coffee and the paper to the gents, leaving the other coffee on his desk to show he was on site. He'd drink his coffee in the gents  while reading the paper, doing the crossword etc.
He'd not be seen again until 11.45, when he'd stroll back to his desk and pick up his voicemail messages before going to the canteen for lunch.
Back at his desk for 1ish, he'd do an hour's work then head to the library and take a nap in the periodicals, coming back to his desk half an hour before finishing time.
I worked with him for over two years and never saw anyone come to his desk if they needed him, everyone knew in the morning he was in the gents, in the afternoon he was in the library, and that's where they'd go if they needed him.
Productive? Hardly. He's an extreme example but I've known plenty of people with a knack for doing very little other than walking around carrying pieces of paper and attending meetings they don't really need to be in.
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"All this reminds me of the propoganda put about during the war to persuade women to take over what were traditionally men's jobs. They were told it was their duty blah blah. The war finishes, suddenly it's their duty to get back home and give the jobs back to the men. I'm always surprised that people can't see that they're being manipulated by the likes of JRM and his little passive aggressive notes and BJ who told people in the first place that they *should* work from home. " There was also a 'study' produced, that showed children suffered psychological harm from not having mother at home, also to manipulate women to give up their jobs | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. In a previous company I worked with a man, let's call him Martin because that was his name. Every morning Martin would turn up on time with two takeout coffees and a copy of the telegraph. He'd log in to his computer, put his jacket over the back of the chair, then take one coffee and the paper to the gents, leaving the other coffee on his desk to show he was on site. He'd drink his coffee in the gents while reading the paper, doing the crossword etc.
He'd not be seen again until 11.45, when he'd stroll back to his desk and pick up his voicemail messages before going to the canteen for lunch.
Back at his desk for 1ish, he'd do an hour's work then head to the library and take a nap in the periodicals, coming back to his desk half an hour before finishing time.
I worked with him for over two years and never saw anyone come to his desk if they needed him, everyone knew in the morning he was in the gents, in the afternoon he was in the library, and that's where they'd go if they needed him.
Productive? Hardly. He's an extreme example but I've known plenty of people with a knack for doing very little other than walking around carrying pieces of paper and attending meetings they don't really need to be in.
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"All this reminds me of the propoganda put about during the war to persuade women to take over what were traditionally men's jobs. They were told it was their duty blah blah. The war finishes, suddenly it's their duty to get back home and give the jobs back to the men. I'm always surprised that people can't see that they're being manipulated by the likes of JRM and his little passive aggressive notes and BJ who told people in the first place that they *should* work from home. There was also a 'study' produced, that showed children suffered psychological harm from not having mother at home, also to manipulate women to give up their jobs " Lol having lived through a war with an absent father and being looked after by miscellaneous child minders. Surely people didn't believe it...oh wait | |||
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"I agree. I think people who work from home are so bloody lazy. It's so much better to dedicate your whole day to a job that barely pays you enough to cover the rent, bills and food. And it's very inspiring to see people waste what little money they have on transport into work. And then to come home with just a few hours to spare before you have to do it all over again for the rest of your life. It's much more beneficial for people to spend life at work and not at home with family. So yeah, fuck those lazy wankers who want to work at home for even just a couple of days of the week. " You tell em girl. It's about time these lazy buggers got told off. | |||
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"Well he's going to make more news as he's ordered a 10% cut to Teslas global workforce due to bad feelings on the economic recovery." This issue isn't about Elon or anyone man/women. It's about getting people back to their natural work environment. People are really missing the point here. | |||
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"I read that article the other day, I think what Musk actually said is that office based staff can work from home if they first put in 40hrs of time in the office. I think it's an attempt at parity with factory based employees (who obviously can't WFH). There is the possibility of exemption for staff with legitimate reasons to need to WFH. I think it's more aimed at USA based staff as a specific example given is a manager responsible for HR at one plant remote working in a totally different state altogether. " That's fair enough. It's not fair if some can wfh and others can't. | |||
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"The saving in rent and utilities alone must be huge" Which is why the big commercial property companies are pushing the “back to office” agenda, lobbying govt, commissioning biased workplace effectiveness studies etc. Don’t expect the long term outcome to be what’s best for Joe public’s work life balance and happiness, big money is involved. | |||
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"The saving in rent and utilities alone must be huge Which is why the big commercial property companies are pushing the “back to office” agenda, lobbying govt, commissioning biased workplace effectiveness studies etc. Don’t expect the long term outcome to be what’s best for Joe public’s work life balance and happiness, big money is involved." Whatever about private industry absolutely noone in the public service should be allowed to work from home. | |||
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"I suppose it depends on the type of work we are talking about. Since the pandemic, apart from the obvious it's much harder to get through to government associated numbers. You get...... Dye to the pandemic....... Etc. i.e.... councils, tax, DVLA, ET AL" Meant.... quote.. due to the pandemic... Unquote | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. Bollocks "Absolutely. If that’s true in any company then the have the wrong employees | |||
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"Not being in the office doesn't translate to laziness. If anything, covid has proved many jobs can be done as well if not better working remotely." Depends who is doing the job. We have found some folks have been really productive working from home and some have used it as an excuse to do as little as possible. Personally, I enjoyed WFH initially then soon wanted to get back to be with real people and to travel. | |||
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"The saving in rent and utilities alone must be huge Which is why the big commercial property companies are pushing the “back to office” agenda, lobbying govt, commissioning biased workplace effectiveness studies etc. Don’t expect the long term outcome to be what’s best for Joe public’s work life balance and happiness, big money is involved. Whatever about private industry absolutely noone in the public service should be allowed to work from home." I think I agree with you | |||
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"The saving in rent and utilities alone must be huge Which is why the big commercial property companies are pushing the “back to office” agenda, lobbying govt, commissioning biased workplace effectiveness studies etc. Don’t expect the long term outcome to be what’s best for Joe public’s work life balance and happiness, big money is involved." Agreed. If wfh continued and became even more prevalent, there would be an almighty crash in commercial property. So shove everyone back in the office … | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. " Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . | |||
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"The saving in rent and utilities alone must be huge Which is why the big commercial property companies are pushing the “back to office” agenda, lobbying govt, commissioning biased workplace effectiveness studies etc. Don’t expect the long term outcome to be what’s best for Joe public’s work life balance and happiness, big money is involved. Whatever about private industry absolutely noone in the public service should be allowed to work from home." Even if they're not in a role that has face to face contact with said public, are as efficiently performing if they were office based and there is a potential saving to the public purse? | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . ." Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. | |||
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"Well he's going to make more news as he's ordered a 10% cut to Teslas global workforce due to bad feelings on the economic recovery. This issue isn't about Elon or anyone man/women. It's about getting people back to their natural work environment. People are really missing the point here. " We get that completely, however our point is that your comment, calling people who work from home lazy, is insulting to people who very successfully work from home. I work in a highly regulated business, the biggest industry in this country. A massive number of organisations have now actually closed head offices because their staff work much better from home and have a much greater work life balance. Please comment. | |||
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"The saving in rent and utilities alone must be huge Which is why the big commercial property companies are pushing the “back to office” agenda, lobbying govt, commissioning biased workplace effectiveness studies etc. Don’t expect the long term outcome to be what’s best for Joe public’s work life balance and happiness, big money is involved. Whatever about private industry absolutely noone in the public service should be allowed to work from home." If they can prove that they are working effectively from home then continuing to work from home should be an option. You are based in Ireland, and I have regular contact with some government departments in Dublin, who tell me that the accuracy and timeliness of the reports that the publish has actually improved with people working from home. But if individual areas are failing, or specific services are failing, that clearly needs to be addressed. I don’t buy the “one size fits all” approach. A more nuanced plan makes more sense | |||
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"Well he's going to make more news as he's ordered a 10% cut to Teslas global workforce due to bad feelings on the economic recovery. This issue isn't about Elon or anyone man/women. It's about getting people back to their natural work environment. People are really missing the point here. " It was only a natural work environment because that's what everyone knew. The pandemic has shown that certain areas are able to work effectively from home, thus their working environment has changed. Just because it was the norm, doesn't mean it was right. | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. " Wasn't calling people who work from home lazy below the belt? Just curious on your thoughts around that. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " That's very true. I think until electrodes can be fastened to your private parts so any form of laziness, perceived or otherwise, can have strict punishments inflicted. I myself am very lazy and find all sorts of excuses not to work. Things like cake, sleep or homes under the hammer. All, I'm sure you will agree, are reasonable excuses. I've always found work to be highly overrated, beaches in the south of France with a laptop is my idea of a stressful working environment but, as always, each to his or her own. Can't chat, must go, in Cap D'Agde at present and need to get naked on the beach and show off my lady bits to all sorts. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. That's very true. I think until electrodes can be fastened to your private parts so any form of laziness, perceived or otherwise, can have strict punishments inflicted. I myself am very lazy and find all sorts of excuses not to work. Things like cake, sleep or homes under the hammer. All, I'm sure you will agree, are reasonable excuses. I've always found work to be highly overrated, beaches in the south of France with a laptop is my idea of a stressful working environment but, as always, each to his or her own. Can't chat, must go, in Cap D'Agde at present and need to get naked on the beach and show off my lady bits to all sorts. "Have a wonderful time. Only the first year we have not been in Cap in 12 years. We are so jealous!! | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Wasn't calling people who work from home lazy below the belt? Just curious on your thoughts around that. To be fair construction workers (electricians included) always work out. Some jobs were constantly outside. Down Plymouth we were out on the jetty, rain nearly everyday, cold and windy. Do we complain about working at home or in the warm, dry, safe office environment? " you have the choice yo get another job, just like office based workers. However the question is, did having less eyes on you make you lazy and work shy? If not, why not. And why is that different from WFH. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. OP, Are you hoping that management are going to give you and your work colleague a good spanking next time you both spend all day arguing?" Well to be honest I've never been spanked at work before. However I think this really only applies to office personnel's. And we don't argue at work, we discuss constructively about the job. | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Wasn't calling people who work from home lazy below the belt? Just curious on your thoughts around that. To be fair construction workers (electricians included) always work out. Some jobs were constantly outside. Down Plymouth we were out on the jetty, rain nearly everyday, cold and windy. Do we complain about working at home or in the warm, dry, safe office environment? " The problem here is not you moaning about being in the cold and wind in Plymouth. The problem here is you saying that people who work at home as lazy. Most electricians charge for more hours than they work!! | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Which bit? Work shy, lazy or chat shite?" Great question. Over to you OP. I am a very successful person who works from home. I do actually find your initial comments personally offensive. | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Which bit? Work shy, lazy or chat shite? To be fair I'm only echoing what EVERYONE thinks of those lazy gits refusing to leave home. " Are you? Working from home can reduce company overheads, reduce carbon footprints, reduces traffic issues. Give people the option of hot desking once or twice a week as needed but for something that's been a success for the last 2 years why the resentment? Are you annoyed because you have to work somewhere other than your house? | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Which bit? Work shy, lazy or chat shite? To be fair I'm only echoing what EVERYONE thinks of those lazy gits refusing to leave home. Are you? Working from home can reduce company overheads, reduce carbon footprints, reduces traffic issues. Give people the option of hot desking once or twice a week as needed but for something that's been a success for the last 2 years why the resentment? Are you annoyed because you have to work somewhere other than your house?" If it's a 'success' for the past two years then why has the Government and companies asked(insisted) people return to Thier workplace(office)? Instead of lottering around at home? | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Which bit? Work shy, lazy or chat shite? To be fair I'm only echoing what EVERYONE thinks of those lazy gits refusing to leave home. Are you? Working from home can reduce company overheads, reduce carbon footprints, reduces traffic issues. Give people the option of hot desking once or twice a week as needed but for something that's been a success for the last 2 years why the resentment? Are you annoyed because you have to work somewhere other than your house? If it's a 'success' for the past two years then why has the Government and companies asked(insisted) people return to Thier workplace(office)? Instead of lottering around at home?" Have they? The few people I know that work for the government (NHS and local council) have all been asked to carry on working from home as much as possible due to cost savings. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. Troll confirmed." Definitely | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Which bit? Work shy, lazy or chat shite? To be fair I'm only echoing what EVERYONE thinks of those lazy gits refusing to leave home. Are you? Working from home can reduce company overheads, reduce carbon footprints, reduces traffic issues. Give people the option of hot desking once or twice a week as needed but for something that's been a success for the last 2 years why the resentment? Are you annoyed because you have to work somewhere other than your house? If it's a 'success' for the past two years then why has the Government and companies asked(insisted) people return to Thier workplace(office)? Instead of lottering around at home?" We are curious now, where do you actually get your information from?? | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Which bit? Work shy, lazy or chat shite? To be fair I'm only echoing what EVERYONE thinks of those lazy gits refusing to leave home. Are you? Working from home can reduce company overheads, reduce carbon footprints, reduces traffic issues. Give people the option of hot desking once or twice a week as needed but for something that's been a success for the last 2 years why the resentment? Are you annoyed because you have to work somewhere other than your house? If it's a 'success' for the past two years then why has the Government and companies asked(insisted) people return to Thier workplace(office)? Instead of lottering around at home? We are curious now, where do you actually get your information from??" Some businesses who's leases expired during the pandemic actually chose to not renew. It's a huge cost in terms of rent and that's something that can then be used for better cash flow resislency and improving the wages of their staff (Rare, but has happened) | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Which bit? Work shy, lazy or chat shite? To be fair I'm only echoing what EVERYONE thinks of those lazy gits refusing to leave home. Are you? Working from home can reduce company overheads, reduce carbon footprints, reduces traffic issues. Give people the option of hot desking once or twice a week as needed but for something that's been a success for the last 2 years why the resentment? Are you annoyed because you have to work somewhere other than your house? If it's a 'success' for the past two years then why has the Government and companies asked(insisted) people return to Thier workplace(office)? Instead of lottering around at home? We are curious now, where do you actually get your information from?? Some businesses who's leases expired during the pandemic actually chose to not renew. It's a huge cost in terms of rent and that's something that can then be used for better cash flow resislency and improving the wages of their staff (Rare, but has happened) " Absolutely agree, in a lot of big industry sectors people are not even being given the option to go back and work from the office. | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Which bit? Work shy, lazy or chat shite? To be fair I'm only echoing what EVERYONE thinks of those lazy gits refusing to leave home. " No you’re not. You are posting your own opinion, being highly offensive, and then trying to hide in the crowd when anyone pushes back on you. Same lack of backbone that you are showing on the other thread where you were slagging off fat women | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. OP, Are you hoping that management are going to give you and your work colleague a good spanking next time you both spend all day arguing? Well to be honest I've never been spanked at work before. However I think this really only applies to office personnel's. And we don't argue at work, we discuss constructively about the job. " I wouldn’t call the conversations you have talking ‘constructively about the job’ going off your work-based chat threads on here | |||
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"Tbh, the idea that ppl slack off when not being watched 24/7 has got me wondering ... So from now on in, when I get a sparky or a plumber in, I'm setting up CCTV. I'm can tsee why they wouldn't be any less work shy and lazy than a office based worker. Sparkies definitely, they just chat shite all day . . . . Hey let's not personal now. That's so below the belt. Which bit? Work shy, lazy or chat shite? To be fair I'm only echoing what EVERYONE thinks of those lazy gits refusing to leave home. Are you? Working from home can reduce company overheads, reduce carbon footprints, reduces traffic issues. Give people the option of hot desking once or twice a week as needed but for something that's been a success for the last 2 years why the resentment? Are you annoyed because you have to work somewhere other than your house? If it's a 'success' for the past two years then why has the Government and companies asked(insisted) people return to Thier workplace(office)? Instead of lottering around at home?" Several reasons. Eg. Easier to integrate new joiners in a team. And they don’t want their expensive office spaces permanently mothballed | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. OP, Are you hoping that management are going to give you and your work colleague a good spanking next time you both spend all day arguing? Well to be honest I've never been spanked at work before. However I think this really only applies to office personnel's. And we don't argue at work, we discuss constructively about the job. I wouldn’t call the conversations you have talking ‘constructively about the job’ going off your work-based chat threads on here " True. But “someone in work said …” is probably just a front. He has admitted that he is scared to stand over his opinions in case someone gives him a hard time. So he posts inflammatory comment and then pretends he didn’t say it or that someone in work said it. | |||
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"Too right. Get back to work. Lazy buggers. " Tell me you’re jealous of people working from home without telling me … | |||
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"Too right. Get back to work. Lazy buggers. Tell me you’re jealous of people working from home without telling me …" I've been a spark for the pa's t 32 years. So jealousy of other professionals? Really? | |||
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"Too right. Get back to work. Lazy buggers. " That's not what he said. Stop speaking misinformation. He told the executives to work from the office or find work elsewhere. Given executives need to liaise with each other a lot, it's not a huge ask. C | |||
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"Too right. Get back to work. Lazy buggers. Tell me you’re jealous of people working from home without telling me … I've been a spark for the pa's t 32 years. So jealousy of other professionals? Really? " Certainly appears like that. | |||
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"Too right. Get back to work. Lazy buggers. Tell me you’re jealous of people working from home without telling me … I've been a spark for the pa's t 32 years. So jealousy of other professionals? Really? " Maybe stop being so insulting and abusive about people in different work environments to the one you operate in. | |||
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"Too right. Get back to work. Lazy buggers. Tell me you’re jealous of people working from home without telling me … I've been a spark for the pa's t 32 years. So jealousy of other professionals? Really? " That statement implies you are also professional? | |||
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"Too right. Get back to work. Lazy buggers. Tell me you’re jealous of people working from home without telling me … I've been a spark for the pa's t 32 years. So jealousy of other professionals? Really? That statement implies you are also professional?" Funny, we were thinking the same thing. | |||
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"It's a sad, very tired antiquated style of management, that reveals his dire limitations. " He said it and explained why. It is because he believes those above the factory floor should be setting an example. They have factory workers in the office so he wants the higher-ups doing the same so it shows they aren't treated differently. It's actually refreshing. C | |||
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"It's a sad, very tired antiquated style of management, that reveals his dire limitations. He said it and explained why. It is because he believes those above the factory floor should be setting an example. They have factory workers in the office so he wants the higher-ups doing the same so it shows they aren't treated differently. It's actually refreshing. C" the follow up "pretend to work somewhere else" tweet kinda floors this imo. | |||
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"I find the Ops comments throughout this thread extremely offensive. I work from home very effectively and am a respected, experienced professional in my field. We are not lazy gits refusing to go back to the office. " By his own account, he has never worked in an office environment, so doesn’t have the insight and experience that we do. | |||
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"I think it's pretty stupid to generalise - any decent business will try and taylor each employees work environment to match the best way they work. Some people work better in an office, some work better at home. Having a one size fits all approach is not particularly smart in my opinion. Also if you don't trust your employees to do their job you either need better employees or better management. " | |||
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"I find the Ops comments throughout this thread extremely offensive. I work from home very effectively and am a respected, experienced professional in my field. We are not lazy gits refusing to go back to the office. " And me. Through working at home my family enjoy a life of luxury. Propery both home and abroad. I can work effectively at a pace that suits me. Sadly we have a troll in our midst. He has been here two weeks. Hopefully he will vanish just as quickly | |||
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"It's a sad, very tired antiquated style of management, that reveals his dire limitations. He said it and explained why. It is because he believes those above the factory floor should be setting an example. They have factory workers in the office so he wants the higher-ups doing the same so it shows they aren't treated differently. It's actually refreshing. C"
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"I find the Ops comments throughout this thread extremely offensive. I work from home very effectively and am a respected, experienced professional in my field. We are not lazy gits refusing to go back to the office. And me. Through working at home my family enjoy a life of luxury. Propery both home and abroad. I can work effectively at a pace that suits me. Sadly we have a troll in our midst. He has been here two weeks. Hopefully he will vanish just as quickly" Troll? Isn't that gobblins in scary children book's? Why are we taking about this? | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. " The stats don't back up your theory. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. The stats don't back up your theory." Yes I'm sure the stats may/will say differently, but eventually EVERYONE will have to go back to the 'office'. So why delay the inevitable? | |||
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"Yes I'm sure the stats may/will say differently, but eventually EVERYONE will have to go back to the 'office'. So why delay the inevitable? " No, EVERYONE won't have to return to the office. Do you really not think that some employees out there are loving the amount they're saving on electricity? | |||
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"Yes I'm sure the stats may/will say differently, but eventually EVERYONE will have to go back to the 'office'. So why delay the inevitable? No, EVERYONE won't have to return to the office. Do you really not think that some employees out there are loving the amount they're saving on electricity? " If you was to start a new company would you want your Staff to be at your new premises or at home? | |||
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"Yes I'm sure the stats may/will say differently, but eventually EVERYONE will have to go back to the 'office'. So why delay the inevitable? No, EVERYONE won't have to return to the office. Do you really not think that some employees out there are loving the amount they're saving on electricity? If you was to start a new company would you want your Staff to be at your new premises or at home? " What company? What do they do? If I was starting a new company and could cut overheads I would. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. The stats don't back up your theory. Yes I'm sure the stats may/will say differently, but eventually EVERYONE will have to go back to the 'office'. So why delay the inevitable? " That's not correct. Not everyone will have to go back to the office. At least get your facts right. More offices are opting for hybrid working, some have permanent homeworking contracts. So might I suggest that sweeping statements aren't made that are untrue. | |||
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"It’s kind of in the title. Working from home is still working so how can they be lazy? Because management can't spank and shout at them if their hiding at home. In the office they work harder and faster when management are present. The stats don't back up your theory. Yes I'm sure the stats may/will say differently, but eventually EVERYONE will have to go back to the 'office'. So why delay the inevitable? " I'm curious, what leads you to this conclusion ? Imo each company will find its "hybrid" balance | |||
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"Yes I'm sure the stats may/will say differently, but eventually EVERYONE will have to go back to the 'office'. So why delay the inevitable? No, EVERYONE won't have to return to the office. Do you really not think that some employees out there are loving the amount they're saving on electricity? If you was to start a new company would you want your Staff to be at your new premises or at home? What company? What do they do? If I was starting a new company and could cut overheads I would. " Oh let's think now so we? Accounts, law, engineering, education, medical, facilities and maintenance, infrastructure, oil and gas, energy supply, national grid,.... | |||
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"Fuck me, Elon musk have finally lost his marbles. "Elon Musk is not the only one that appears to have lost his marbles! I just people would be better informed about the benefits of home working in the right circumstances. | |||
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"Yes I'm sure the stats may/will say differently, but eventually EVERYONE will have to go back to the 'office'. So why delay the inevitable? No, EVERYONE won't have to return to the office. Do you really not think that some employees out there are loving the amount they're saving on electricity? If you was to start a new company would you want your Staff to be at your new premises or at home? What company? What do they do? If I was starting a new company and could cut overheads I would. Oh let's think now so we? Accounts, law, engineering, education, medical, facilities and maintenance, infrastructure, oil and gas, energy supply, national grid,.... " I've worked from home 2 days per week, in education, since 2017. During the pandemic, I taught lessons from diverse places, including a hospital car park at one point. Technology is a wonderful thing | |||
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"Yes I'm sure the stats may/will say differently, but eventually EVERYONE will have to go back to the 'office'. So why delay the inevitable? No, EVERYONE won't have to return to the office. Do you really not think that some employees out there are loving the amount they're saving on electricity? If you was to start a new company would you want your Staff to be at your new premises or at home? What company? What do they do? If I was starting a new company and could cut overheads I would. Oh let's think now so we? Accounts, law, engineering, education, medical, facilities and maintenance, infrastructure, oil and gas, energy supply, national grid,.... " 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8 all have WFH opportunities that I personally know of. The others I can't comment on Try again | |||
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