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A mother is skipping meals to feed her son.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Have you also heard the hearth breaking story of how a mother is skipping meals to feed her son? The story was told on bbc radio 4’s programme.

Emma is a mother and she is working three jobs to make ends meet, she told how her son prepared two bowls of breakfast cereal. “They’re not both for me, mum,” he said. “One of them’s for you because I haven’t seen you eat in days. At least I’ll know you’ve eaten today.”

What do you think that can be done to help more, are the government doing enough to tackle food poverty?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s terribly sad

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

First world country. Scandalous.

What a mother though.

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By *riendly older leggy wifeCouple
over a year ago

london

Things are not easy to make ends meet nowdays

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry for being naive but how does someone work 3 jobs; would it be days, evenings and weekends?

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan
over a year ago

Sussex

Agreed, when we have MP's who's sole

job should be to represent and work for us, taking down tens of thousands a year, it is anger making.

And then where's the father of the boy? Were we ever told?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Sorry for being naive but how does someone work 3 jobs; would it be days, evenings and weekends?"

Working on days of and after first job of the day maybe? X

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"Sorry for being naive but how does someone work 3 jobs; would it be days, evenings and weekends?"
could be three part time jobs so each job covers days or times the other two dont

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By *rMs.NeekCouple
over a year ago

Worcestershire


"Sorry for being naive but how does someone work 3 jobs; would it be days, evenings and weekends?"

Often part time, zero hours contracts. So couple of hours doing one job, then couple of hours at another. I know lots of women who do that.

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

The mother is amazing and should be proud of raising a boy like that

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By *ormorantMan
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

My mother did the same in the 70’s with three of us… progress ah…!!!

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By *rMs.NeekCouple
over a year ago

Worcestershire


"Agreed, when we have MP's who's sole

job should be to represent and work for us, taking down tens of thousands a year, it is anger making.

And then where's the father of the boy? Were we ever told?"

Average MP basic salary is 3 to 4 times that of a nurse

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who's looking after her son if she's working 3 jobs

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By *orny_gent1982Man
over a year ago

ashington near Worthing

Big credit to that mum.

I live in the south and if you work in a warehouse and earn around 20 to 22k a year

A one bed flat is around 700 to 900 a month unless you want to live in a Dive...

Don't leave much after bills at all... gets any worse we doomed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens "

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Is this the one where everyone’s saying look at her Facebook page which apparently tells a different story?

I don’t know it’s just something I saw.

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By *othicslaveCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk


"Sorry for being naive but how does someone work 3 jobs; would it be days, evenings and weekends?

Often part time, zero hours contracts. So couple of hours doing one job, then couple of hours at another. I know lots of women who do that. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is just the beginning wait until she cant feed the child either the revolution is coming

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings."

I just find it confusing because I know a bunch of single mums, one being my ex, never worked a day in their lives living pretty comfortable. Is it different in different parts of the UK? My Ex is in a 2 bed house in the Cotswolds and never had a job. She just plays in the garden every day with her kid. What has this woman done so wrong that she’s skint?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is just the beginning wait until she cant feed the child either the revolution is coming "

None of these politicians can promise any of peace, land or bread.

*** this is a joke

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By *othicslaveCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk

As parents we have all skipped meals or reduced on our plates to cover the children and to ensure they have the best we can offer and work multi jobs or extra hours where applicable to make ends meet, more things go up the more of this you will see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings.

I just find it confusing because I know a bunch of single mums, one being my ex, never worked a day in their lives living pretty comfortable. Is it different in different parts of the UK? My Ex is in a 2 bed house in the Cotswolds and never had a job. She just plays in the garden every day with her kid. What has this woman done so wrong that she’s skint?"

She works instead of claiming benefits???

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings.

I just find it confusing because I know a bunch of single mums, one being my ex, never worked a day in their lives living pretty comfortable. Is it different in different parts of the UK? My Ex is in a 2 bed house in the Cotswolds and never had a job. She just plays in the garden every day with her kid. What has this woman done so wrong that she’s skint?

She works instead of claiming benefits???

"

So she’d rather work and see her kids suffer than claim benefits? Seems pretty dumb to me

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Agreed, when we have MP's who's sole

job should be to represent and work for us, taking down tens of thousands a year, it is anger making.

And then where's the father of the boy? Were we ever told?"

Not sure the 65k mps get is the biggest issue. It's surely the rampant profiteering of the companies... Petrol, gas, supermarkets et al.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings.

I just find it confusing because I know a bunch of single mums, one being my ex, never worked a day in their lives living pretty comfortable. Is it different in different parts of the UK? My Ex is in a 2 bed house in the Cotswolds and never had a job. She just plays in the garden every day with her kid. What has this woman done so wrong that she’s skint?

She works instead of claiming benefits???

So she’d rather work and see her kids suffer than claim benefits? Seems pretty dumb to me"

Well that's us women for ya

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings.

I just find it confusing because I know a bunch of single mums, one being my ex, never worked a day in their lives living pretty comfortable. Is it different in different parts of the UK? My Ex is in a 2 bed house in the Cotswolds and never had a job. She just plays in the garden every day with her kid. What has this woman done so wrong that she’s skint?

She works instead of claiming benefits???

So she’d rather work and see her kids suffer than claim benefits? Seems pretty dumb to me"

Yeah - teaching her kids the value of a working ethic. Pretty dumb.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings.

I just find it confusing because I know a bunch of single mums, one being my ex, never worked a day in their lives living pretty comfortable. Is it different in different parts of the UK? My Ex is in a 2 bed house in the Cotswolds and never had a job. She just plays in the garden every day with her kid. What has this woman done so wrong that she’s skint?

She works instead of claiming benefits???

So she’d rather work and see her kids suffer than claim benefits? Seems pretty dumb to me"

Not at all dumb! I worked instead of benefits when mine were young and I was alone because I thought it was right as an example that u work for a living! Worked it out once was something like £20 better of than on benefits!

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings.

I just find it confusing because I know a bunch of single mums, one being my ex, never worked a day in their lives living pretty comfortable. Is it different in different parts of the UK? My Ex is in a 2 bed house in the Cotswolds and never had a job. She just plays in the garden every day with her kid. What has this woman done so wrong that she’s skint?

She works instead of claiming benefits???

So she’d rather work and see her kids suffer than claim benefits? Seems pretty dumb to me

Yeah - teaching her kids the value of a working ethic. Pretty dumb. "

If she’s that skint she’s choosing not to eat I’m sure her kid is missing out on a lot of stuff. You can teach them to have a work ethic without depriving them of a childhood. If she’s skipping meals I’m almost certain the kid isn’t getting anything but the bare minimum to survive

That’s what makes me think there’s more to this than meets the eye.

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By *adbury girlWoman
over a year ago

Lanarkshire


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings.

I just find it confusing because I know a bunch of single mums, one being my ex, never worked a day in their lives living pretty comfortable. Is it different in different parts of the UK? My Ex is in a 2 bed house in the Cotswolds and never had a job. She just plays in the garden every day with her kid. What has this woman done so wrong that she’s skint?

She works instead of claiming benefits???

So she’d rather work and see her kids suffer than claim benefits? Seems pretty dumb to me"

Maybe your ex gets maintenance from you and this lady doesn’t get anything from her ex

Also some people claim benefits like PIP which boosts their income whereas if this lady doesn't have any disability/long term illness then she won’t get PIP on top of her benefits. There can be many reasons for the difference in income

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By *romagefraisWoman
over a year ago

Sunderland

I think it's all bollocks tbh. Would be interested to see her statement of affairs see what money is actually going where. People in this situation are usually either deeply in debt or live like weekend millionaires when they've been paid leaving themselves short for the rest of the month.

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By *ig_eric_tionMan
over a year ago

IPSWICH

I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine.

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By *scobar67Man
over a year ago

glasgow


"Have you also heard the hearth breaking story of how a mother is skipping meals to feed her son? The story was told on bbc radio 4’s programme.

Emma is a mother and she is working three jobs to make ends meet, she told how her son prepared two bowls of breakfast cereal. “They’re not both for me, mum,” he said. “One of them’s for you because I haven’t seen you eat in days. At least I’ll know you’ve eaten today.”

What do you think that can be done to help more, are the government doing enough to tackle food poverty? "

They could start by cancelling this jubilee nonsense which is costing millions!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens

As others have said, it could be 0-hour contract but "mother working 0+ hours a week" won't tug the heart strings.

I just find it confusing because I know a bunch of single mums, one being my ex, never worked a day in their lives living pretty comfortable. Is it different in different parts of the UK? My Ex is in a 2 bed house in the Cotswolds and never had a job. She just plays in the garden every day with her kid. What has this woman done so wrong that she’s skint?

She works instead of claiming benefits???

So she’d rather work and see her kids suffer than claim benefits? Seems pretty dumb to me"

Can single mums ever do right, I wonder?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine."

Sounds like the beeb is creating a character to stir up the masses. I would love to see her outgoings...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Working parents and non-parents can still be in receipt of benefits if they're low-income.

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By *itygamesMan
over a year ago

UK

i think its worth looking at cheapest healthy meals , instead of things like chicken nuggets and chips for example which is probably the childs request look at other healthy options that are really cheap to make/cook

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i think its worth looking at cheapest healthy meals , instead of things like chicken nuggets and chips for example which is probably the childs request look at other healthy options that are really cheap to make/cook"

Why do you think this woman isn't producing cheap healthy meals?

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"It’s terribly sad "
Yes, it sure is that too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is just the beginning wait until she cant feed the child either the revolution is coming

None of these politicians can promise any of peace, land or bread.

*** this is a joke"
Vive la révolution

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By *udley hotwife86Couple
over a year ago

DUDLEY


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine."

If that's the case it's complete bull or a situation of they're own creation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Agreed, when we have MP's who's sole

job should be to represent and work for us, taking down tens of thousands a year, it is anger making.

And then where's the father of the boy? Were we ever told?

Average MP basic salary is 3 to 4 times that of a nurse "

And footballers earn in one week what an MP earns in a year

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine.

If that's the case it's complete bull or a situation of they're own creation"

This is why I won’t give an opinion. I don’t see how anyone can without seeing the whole picture.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine.

If that's the case it's complete bull or a situation of they're own creation"

Yeah something doesn’t add up

Sounds like the story had been embellished a little.

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By *ig_eric_tionMan
over a year ago

IPSWICH


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine.

If that's the case it's complete bull or a situation of they're own creation

Yeah something doesn’t add up

Sounds like the story had been embellished a little. "

I also keep in mind this person may well have been a victim of clever editing and/or misrepresentation in order to sensationalise.

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds


"I’d be interested in hearing the numbers on how this works. 3 jobs, single mum I’m assuming, how is she that skint?

I don’t live in that world so no idea how that happens "

Potentially like that Jack Monroe who made a career of saying she was poor but also said she was an alcohol problem.

C

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"First world country. Scandalous.

What a mother though. "
This .

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine.

If that's the case it's complete bull or a situation of they're own creation"

B 4 I was on my own bringing up my youngest 3 my partner their father was a alcoholic! So we often had no money as he drank it all! And yes that's our own creation! Or his! I lived like that to keep family together for longer than I should have I realize in hindsight! So never judge not knowing the back story x

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By *scobar67Man
over a year ago

glasgow


"Agreed, when we have MP's who's sole

job should be to represent and work for us, taking down tens of thousands a year, it is anger making.

And then where's the father of the boy? Were we ever told?

Average MP basic salary is 3 to 4 times that of a nurse

And footballers earn in one week what an MP earns in a year"

We don't pay footballers wages theirs a difference between that and an MPs inflated wages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Meal skipping is something single mums have always done

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By *nimaginativeUsernameMan
over a year ago

Rochester, Kent

Sounds like most things: a mix of truth, fiction and conjecture.

Personally I’ve suffered crippling mortgage rates, divorce settlements, negative equity for ten years, and struggling to pay my bills. But I’m grateful that I’ve survived by sensible money-management on very low income and living within my means.

That means personally repairing my car instead of buying the latest games console, and I’m proud of myself.

My heart goes out to those who are struggling, and I don’t envy you. I’m not rich, but I’m not in debt. Keep strong

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By *scobar67Man
over a year ago

glasgow


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine.

If that's the case it's complete bull or a situation of they're own creation"

So between them they have 4 jobs and can't feed their kids???.. hard to believe this is true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even if she does claim benefits they can take from 4-8 weeks before receiving any money.of course she could receive a advance so it is not taking as long as 8 weeks but this would have to be payed back which come out her benefit and depending on how many she has and is using (social housing)she may have to pay bedroom tax aswell

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds


"

They could start by cancelling this jubilee nonsense which is costing millions!

"

Fun fact but all the money spent on this has already been repaid with tourism for it.

Weird how people forget that. Even the entire royal family generate more money than is spent on them.

The country would be far far worse off financially without them.

C

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine."

How would they qualify for UC if they both work this much? Even with minimum wage that would surely bring them over the threshold? But I guess it would also depend on what city they live in, whether they are in council housing etc.

Regardless, I think there are a lot of people living this way at the moment, and it looks like it's gonna get a lot harder before it gets easier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine.

If that's the case it's complete bull or a situation of they're own creation

B 4 I was on my own bringing up my youngest 3 my partner their father was a alcoholic! So we often had no money as he drank it all! And yes that's our own creation! Or his! I lived like that to keep family together for longer than I should have I realize in hindsight! So never judge not knowing the back story x"

Totally this. You never know the back story. Judging someone is a really ugly trait J xx

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Sorry for being naive but how does someone work 3 jobs; would it be days, evenings and weekends?"

I had three jobs once. Just a Monday in one then daytime Wednesday to Friday in another. I then did bar shifts Friday night and Saturday night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Sounds like most things: a mix of truth, fiction and conjecture.

Personally I’ve suffered crippling mortgage rates, divorce settlements, negative equity for ten years, and struggling to pay my bills. But I’m grateful that I’ve survived by sensible money-management on very low income and living within my means.

That means personally repairing my car instead of buying the latest games console, and I’m proud of myself.

My heart goes out to those who are struggling, and I don’t envy you. I’m not rich, but I’m not in debt. Keep strong "

I like your attitude. I’m similar. Along with not having more children because we couldn’t afford to. Hence a (not ideal!) 11 year age gap between them. Like I said before I’d need a lot more info on this situation to have an opinion or judge.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Agreed, when we have MP's who's sole

job should be to represent and work for us, taking down tens of thousands a year, it is anger making.

And then where's the father of the boy? Were we ever told?

Average MP basic salary is 3 to 4 times that of a nurse

And footballers earn in one week what an MP earns in a year

We don't pay footballers wages theirs a difference between that and an MPs inflated wages. "

Inflated wages for running a country with a far bigger expenditure than any company? It’s easy to criticise MPs but not one of us on here could do a better job, in fact if any of us did the job the country would run out of public money. MPs can always do better at their jobs but personally, I don’t think their wages is isn’t to write home about in comparison to the scale of their responsibilities. As for the mother skipping a meal, an awful thought but I’ll hold back any opinion until ai have all the information.

It is unlikely me and you will agree on the matter with MPs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've listened to the interview with Emma on Radio 4. Did anyone else?

The couple have two pre-schoolers and an 8 year old. She said they were already in trouble after multiple lockdowns - many people were affected financially by COVID. When she didn't do a food shop for 3 months, she used emergency food parcels, asked for a loaf of bread from her neighbour. She's found a full-time job now which means she must have been doing 3 part-time jobs presumably.

She just sounded resigned to not eating 3 meals a day for the foreseeable future. She didn't complain. She just sounded very tired.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The amount of universal credit they receive will be determined by how many hours they work.also what other debts they have to pay will play a part

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace


"I just took the time to listen to this.

This lady has a partner in full time employment. She also works 3 jobs and they receive universal credit. She also says that she was unable to buy any food from December to March.

Something doesn't quite sound genuine.

If that's the case it's complete bull or a situation of they're own creation

This is why I won’t give an opinion. I don’t see how anyone can without seeing the whole picture. "

Snap, full time single mum and work full time, and I know my situation and what I earn and receive, but my outgoings could be completely different to theirs so I won't pass judgement

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life. "

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption? "

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill "
maybe they'll apply for bankruptcy

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

I never like to pass judgement on anyone without knowing all the facts and hell will freeze over before I take anything that’s written on social media as facts.

I know someone that had a mortgage car on finance 3 young kids but lost their job and with it their house and car life sometimes can deal shit hands .

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill "

You can always sell a car. It's kinda illegal to sell a child.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill

You can always sell a car. It's kinda illegal to sell a child. "

Feel my analogy has gone over your head, maybe my fault, maybe no one’s fault. Agree to disagree I guess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life. "

Are we all supposed to anticipate multiple births, redundancy, relationship breakdowns, ill health, disability and of course a global pandemic?

Because despite the planning, despite the foresight, despite the smugness - all of us are at risk of being in the exact same position as Emma.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill

You can always sell a car. It's kinda illegal to sell a child. "
can you sell a car that's on finance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

Are we all supposed to anticipate multiple births, redundancy, relationship breakdowns, ill health, disability and of course a global pandemic?

Because despite the planning, despite the foresight, despite the smugness - all of us are at risk of being in the exact same position as Emma."

That’s exactly the word smugness xx

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By *osey WalesMan
over a year ago

Surrey

The way things are at the moment with the cost of living and wages not keeping up. I fear that this story will not be an isolated incident.

As i have mentioned on another similar thread, i earn pretty good or what i thought once was pretty good money but its tight now. Choices are being made daily as to what can and cannot be bought.

The caviar and champagne is down to one case a week.

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By *urvySub87Woman
over a year ago

Near Wellingborough


"Sorry for being naive but how does someone work 3 jobs; would it be days, evenings and weekends?"

I was working 2 jobs, one at 32.5 hours the other at 10.

Monday 10-6:30

Tuesday 12:30-9 then 11-4am

Friday 12:30-9

Saturday 11-8 then 11-4am.

Technically if I needed to fit in another part time job I could have done on my days off.

It was far from a great situation but needs must unfortunately

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill

You can always sell a car. It's kinda illegal to sell a child.

Feel my analogy has gone over your head, maybe my fault, maybe no one’s fault. Agree to disagree I guess "

No it hasn't. You can't compare a child and a car because a child isn't something that comes with the worst case scenario option of just selling up to pay for it.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill

You can always sell a car. It's kinda illegal to sell a child. can you sell a car that's on finance?"

Yes. I've done it.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill

You can always sell a car. It's kinda illegal to sell a child.

Feel my analogy has gone over your head, maybe my fault, maybe no one’s fault. Agree to disagree I guess

No it hasn't. You can't compare a child and a car because a child isn't something that comes with the worst case scenario option of just selling up to pay for it."

As I said, I don’t think you’ve got my point, or I’ve failed to make it clear, as I wasn’t comparing the direct financial differences between a child and a car, because of course that’s ridiculous. More so the sympathy we offer people for their decisions in certain things. But as I said, agree to disagree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill

You can always sell a car. It's kinda illegal to sell a child.

Feel my analogy has gone over your head, maybe my fault, maybe no one’s fault. Agree to disagree I guess

No it hasn't. You can't compare a child and a car because a child isn't something that comes with the worst case scenario option of just selling up to pay for it.

As I said, I don’t think you’ve got my point, or I’ve failed to make it clear, as I wasn’t comparing the direct financial differences between a child and a car, because of course that’s ridiculous. More so the sympathy we offer people for their decisions in certain things. But as I said, agree to disagree. "
there are other options of transportation, walking, cycling

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"It feels nasty to say but sometimes I read headlines like this and think “person forced to deal with consequences of their actions”

Being responsible can mean living within your means. That goes for getting a car on finance you can’t afford, going out when you have bills that need paying, and unfortunately, having a kid you weren’t in a good position to have.

The first 2 we have no sympathy for. The last one we seem to pretend it’s never anyones fault.

That’s not to say everyone that’s struggling, it’s entirely their fault. But we all make decisions in life.

I just don't know how anyone is supposed to guarantee their financial stability for 18 years. If someone has kids when they can afford to but say 2 years later they loose their job or their partner leaves are they just supposed to put the kids up for adoption?

Hence the last part of my post

Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of people having kids they full well know they can’t afford right then. And for some reason when it comes to having kids we always have unlimited sympathy for people.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. You can take a car finance out over 9 years with no idea where you’ll be in 5. But you’d like to think no one’s dumb enough taking out a finance knowing they can’t pay for the first bill

You can always sell a car. It's kinda illegal to sell a child.

Feel my analogy has gone over your head, maybe my fault, maybe no one’s fault. Agree to disagree I guess

No it hasn't. You can't compare a child and a car because a child isn't something that comes with the worst case scenario option of just selling up to pay for it.

As I said, I don’t think you’ve got my point, or I’ve failed to make it clear, as I wasn’t comparing the direct financial differences between a child and a car, because of course that’s ridiculous. More so the sympathy we offer people for their decisions in certain things. But as I said, agree to disagree. "

The degree of sympathy is different because the consequences are different. Somebody losing their car is unfortunate but it hardly compares to somebody struggling to feed their child. Do you think they should get equal sympathy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't have to have a car, people choose to have a car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have you also heard the hearth breaking story of how a mother is skipping meals to feed her son? The story was told on bbc radio 4’s programme.

Emma is a mother and she is working three jobs to make ends meet, she told how her son prepared two bowls of breakfast cereal. “They’re not both for me, mum,” he said. “One of them’s for you because I haven’t seen you eat in days. At least I’ll know you’ve eaten today.”

What do you think that can be done to help more, are the government doing enough to tackle food poverty?

They could start by cancelling this jubilee nonsense which is costing millions!

"

But will generate billions?

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry for being naive but how does someone work 3 jobs; would it be days, evenings and weekends?"

Does it matter? She's working 3 jobs and can't afford to eat, something very wrong and upsetting about that

Nobody should be going hungry I this day and age in a first world country

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast


"I think it's all bollocks tbh. Would be interested to see her statement of affairs see what money is actually going where. People in this situation are usually either deeply in debt or live like weekend millionaires when they've been paid leaving themselves short for the rest of the month."

Totally agree. Big TV, Sky, nights out, takeaways.

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast


"Have you also heard the hearth breaking story of how a mother is skipping meals to feed her son? The story was told on bbc radio 4’s programme.

Emma is a mother and she is working three jobs to make ends meet, she told how her son prepared two bowls of breakfast cereal. “They’re not both for me, mum,” he said. “One of them’s for you because I haven’t seen you eat in days. At least I’ll know you’ve eaten today.”

What do you think that can be done to help more, are the government doing enough to tackle food poverty?

They could start by cancelling this jubilee nonsense which is costing millions!

"

You could always live in a country with no monarchy.

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast


"You don't have to have a car, people choose to have a car"

Same with children. Too many breed and expect others to pay for their kids.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry for being naive but how does someone work 3 jobs; would it be days, evenings and weekends?"

I have 4 jobs and work 7 days a week. I have my main job 9 til 5 during the week, then Wednesday after work I do another couple of hours on job, Thursday and Sunday I do 6 til 9 on 3rd job (which is a voluntary job) and Friday and Saturday evenings 6 til 9 on the 4th job.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Big credit to that mum.

I live in the south and if you work in a warehouse and earn around 20 to 22k a year

A one bed flat is around 700 to 900 a month unless you want to live in a Dive...

Don't leave much after bills at all... gets any worse we doomed "
Yes, as the cost of living crisis increases, there will be less money over for those things too.

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