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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I enjoyed the office and extras but I didn't like Derek...I felt Gervais was just doing a nasty impression of someone who is mentally disabled...like a school bully would,I just watched his new stand up on netflix and some was funny but I found him to be just nasty for the sake of being nasty,if anyone had said some of the stuff he said on public transport they would probably be arrested...im sorry and im sure alot of people find him funny I just felt he was nasty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't take Derek that way at all. It's about a guy who looks at the world in a pure and beautiful way who's nothing but kind. Nothing to do with disability, just a wonderful human.

Everyone can learn a lot from that programme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are so many things you can say to a limited audience that you can't say in public transport. Stand-up comedians have a style for themselves. People who don't like his style do not have to watch him. No one is forcing them to. It's as simple as that.

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By *ammo89Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Derek and After Life were awful imo. Just him doing his "god doesn't exist and you're an idiot if you believe" schtick in both of them. And I say that as an atheist.

Ironically, he keeps saying that people can't wait to cancel him, and yet he makes overly sentimental shows that guarantee him awards. As Kate Winslet says in Extras: "You're guaranteed an award if you play a mental" :D

Stephen Merchant was clearly the more talented of the two, and Outlaws was far better than either of Gervais' own work

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By *he love catsCouple
over a year ago

South Wales


"I didn't take Derek that way at all. It's about a guy who looks at the world in a pure and beautiful way who's nothing but kind. Nothing to do with disability, just a wonderful human.

Everyone can learn a lot from that programme."

Exactly this.

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By *ighty_tightyMan
over a year ago

Norfolk/Suffolk

Can't stand him at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Derek was not very funny, and if they wanted to shine a spotlight on disability then.. why not cast a disabled person? It was weird - Gervais was too famous to play that character without people seeing it as anything other than mocking. He's also not a very good actor, which means he relies on lazy stereotypes when a better actor would've tried to capture more fully the mannerisms of the disability they were portraying (though, again, better still would just have been someone with said disability).

Haven't seen anything good since Extras; his stand-up seems to just be edge-baiting, which only really works somewhere like the Oscars where you're unquestioningly punching up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't take Derek that way at all. It's about a guy who looks at the world in a pure and beautiful way who's nothing but kind. Nothing to do with disability, just a wonderful human.

Everyone can learn a lot from that programme."

Exactly this.

Im such a fan of Gervais's work he can portray a character in such a wonderful way.

The problem is people take everything so 'literally' now days. You either get him or you dont, the latter seem to find him offensive

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman
over a year ago

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Love him, afterlife was genius. He got it spot on

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By *he love catsCouple
over a year ago

South Wales


"I didn't take Derek that way at all. It's about a guy who looks at the world in a pure and beautiful way who's nothing but kind. Nothing to do with disability, just a wonderful human.

Everyone can learn a lot from that programme.

Exactly this."

Fantastic actor.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

I like him! Afterlife was good and he loves animals so gets my vote! X

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By *orMatureWomenAndCouplesMan
over a year ago

Ipswich

I thought his special was a bit rambling in parts but I didn’t find it nasty at all. I found it very funny and he had some important things to say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Afterlife was the only thing I've liked of his.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Derek was not very funny, and if they wanted to shine a spotlight on disability then.. why not cast a disabled person? It was weird - Gervais was too famous to play that character without people seeing it as anything other than mocking. He's also not a very good actor, which means he relies on lazy stereotypes when a better actor would've tried to capture more fully the mannerisms of the disability they were portraying (though, again, better still would just have been someone with said disability).

Haven't seen anything good since Extras; his stand-up seems to just be edge-baiting, which only really works somewhere like the Oscars where you're unquestioningly punching up."

So am i getting this right here?. Only disabled actors should play disabled characters?

On that premises.

Only Gay actors should play gay characters?

Only white actors should play historically white characters?

WTF?? Don't u see how this is wrong?

They are playing characters. The sexuality or gender of the actor is irrelevant, so long as they do the character justice and play them well.

Don't you think???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Derek was not very funny, and if they wanted to shine a spotlight on disability then.. why not cast a disabled person? It was weird - Gervais was too famous to play that character without people seeing it as anything other than mocking. He's also not a very good actor, which means he relies on lazy stereotypes when a better actor would've tried to capture more fully the mannerisms of the disability they were portraying (though, again, better still would just have been someone with said disability).

Haven't seen anything good since Extras; his stand-up seems to just be edge-baiting, which only really works somewhere like the Oscars where you're unquestioningly punching up.

So am i getting this right here?. Only disabled actors should play disabled characters?

On that premises.

Only Gay actors should play gay characters?

Only white actors should play historically white characters?

WTF?? Don't u see how this is wrong?

They are playing characters. The sexuality or gender of the actor is irrelevant, so long as they do the character justice and play them well.

Don't you think???"

My point is that Gervais was shit at it and it just came off offensive.

You don't need to have a disabled actor play the part but it's a missed opportunity, right? It would be an actual portrayal of disability, instead of an unrepresentative set of what are essentially stereotypes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Derek was not very funny, and if they wanted to shine a spotlight on disability then.. why not cast a disabled person? It was weird - Gervais was too famous to play that character without people seeing it as anything other than mocking. He's also not a very good actor, which means he relies on lazy stereotypes when a better actor would've tried to capture more fully the mannerisms of the disability they were portraying (though, again, better still would just have been someone with said disability).

Haven't seen anything good since Extras; his stand-up seems to just be edge-baiting, which only really works somewhere like the Oscars where you're unquestioningly punching up.

So am i getting this right here?. Only disabled actors should play disabled characters?

On that premises.

Only Gay actors should play gay characters?

Only white actors should play historically white characters?

WTF?? Don't u see how this is wrong?

They are playing characters. The sexuality or gender of the actor is irrelevant, so long as they do the character justice and play them well.

Don't you think???

My point is that Gervais was shit at it and it just came off offensive.

You don't need to have a disabled actor play the part but it's a missed opportunity, right? It would be an actual portrayal of disability, instead of an unrepresentative set of what are essentially stereotypes."

Stereotypes??

So let me get This clear. Let's not get an able bodied actor to play a disabled person as its a stereotype?

So what about Tom Hardy playing a gay man in rock and roller or in legend. Is this not a stereotype?

I'm genuinely confused by your logic here. Can u please explain? X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Derek was not very funny, and if they wanted to shine a spotlight on disability then.. why not cast a disabled person? It was weird - Gervais was too famous to play that character without people seeing it as anything other than mocking. He's also not a very good actor, which means he relies on lazy stereotypes when a better actor would've tried to capture more fully the mannerisms of the disability they were portraying (though, again, better still would just have been someone with said disability).

Haven't seen anything good since Extras; his stand-up seems to just be edge-baiting, which only really works somewhere like the Oscars where you're unquestioningly punching up.

So am i getting this right here?. Only disabled actors should play disabled characters?

On that premises.

Only Gay actors should play gay characters?

Only white actors should play historically white characters?

WTF?? Don't u see how this is wrong?

They are playing characters. The sexuality or gender of the actor is irrelevant, so long as they do the character justice and play them well.

Don't you think???

My point is that Gervais was shit at it and it just came off offensive.

You don't need to have a disabled actor play the part but it's a missed opportunity, right? It would be an actual portrayal of disability, instead of an unrepresentative set of what are essentially stereotypes."

Is your point that you didn't believe his portrayal of that character??

What about Mel Gibson as William Wallace? Was that a stereotype?

They are actors playing characters. Not real life. FFS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is your point that you didn't believe his portrayal of that character??"

Yup, that's the one. He didn't do a good job of the role, and it came off as if he was just taking the piss. He's a bad actor, and his performance undermined the show. People quite fairly called him out it, too.

Imagine if you had someone playing Freddie Mercury, and they knew he was gay, so they just acted with a limp hand and mispronouncing their S's - as in, performing a stereotype. A good actor would actually study Freddie's mannerisms, how he moved and talked, etc. Or you could just get Freddie Mercury in (well, one small problem).

Gervais just picked a bunch of stereotypical "learning disabled-y" looking mannerisms and squished them together. A good actor would actually study how people with a learning disability act and move about and how they talk. Or you could just get someone who actually has a learning disability to play the part.

You can measure this by how people with learning disabilities, their family and carers reacted to the show. Although I'm sure they're exceptions, most that I've read is that it comes across as a joke - with learning disabilities the butt of it - instead of a portrayal they're happy to see.

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

It was a bit rambling but nothing he said was untoward. He used statements that had already been used by activists and turned them around on them and that was clever word play. It's not offensive if it wasn't offensive in the first place.

C

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

I thought Derek was absolutely beautiful television.

Derek is the star of the show and the inspiration to everyone else. As Gervais said, the show is all about kindness...

Unlike his latest stand-up which was boring, lazy, humourless, punching-down shite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't take Derek that way at all. It's about a guy who looks at the world in a pure and beautiful way who's nothing but kind. Nothing to do with disability, just a wonderful human.

Everyone can learn a lot from that programme."

The scene just after his Dad dies (I think it is) when he’s talking about how precious life is and if you haven’t spoken to your loved ones for a while then phone them and don’t waste time arguing and not talking to them (or something like that) is absolutely heart breaking and had me in floods of tears the first time I saw it.

I don’t think he’s mocking anyone in it, he’s showing that people who tend to be written off as being simple and useless actually have a lot to offer and shouldn’t be overlooked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is your point that you didn't believe his portrayal of that character??

Yup, that's the one. He didn't do a good job of the role, and it came off as if he was just taking the piss. He's a bad actor, and his performance undermined the show. People quite fairly called him out it, too.

Imagine if you had someone playing Freddie Mercury, and they knew he was gay, so they just acted with a limp hand and mispronouncing their S's - as in, performing a stereotype. A good actor would actually study Freddie's mannerisms, how he moved and talked, etc. Or you could just get Freddie Mercury in (well, one small problem).

Gervais just picked a bunch of stereotypical "learning disabled-y" looking mannerisms and squished them together. A good actor would actually study how people with a learning disability act and move about and how they talk. Or you could just get someone who actually has a learning disability to play the part.

You can measure this by how people with learning disabilities, their family and carers reacted to the show. Although I'm sure they're exceptions, most that I've read is that it comes across as a joke - with learning disabilities the butt of it - instead of a portrayal they're happy to see."

Again he was playing a role. Don't you think he was acting on the stereotypes to highlight the fact that this was a common perspective of the person he was playing. In turn highlighting the stereotypes we all have towards "Derek"

I feel that series brought massive attention towards people in that position. In turn opening the public mind to the struggles of people in his position. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't take Derek that way at all. It's about a guy who looks at the world in a pure and beautiful way who's nothing but kind. Nothing to do with disability, just a wonderful human.

Everyone can learn a lot from that programme.

The scene just after his Dad dies (I think it is) when he’s talking about how precious life is and if you haven’t spoken to your loved ones for a while then phone them and don’t waste time arguing and not talking to them (or something like that) is absolutely heart breaking and had me in floods of tears the first time I saw it.

I don’t think he’s mocking anyone in it, he’s showing that people who tend to be written off as being simple and useless actually have a lot to offer and shouldn’t be overlooked. "

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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago

wirral

Love ricky been to see him live twice and enjoyed every minute.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is your point that you didn't believe his portrayal of that character??

Yup, that's the one. He didn't do a good job of the role, and it came off as if he was just taking the piss. He's a bad actor, and his performance undermined the show. People quite fairly called him out it, too.

Imagine if you had someone playing Freddie Mercury, and they knew he was gay, so they just acted with a limp hand and mispronouncing their S's - as in, performing a stereotype. A good actor would actually study Freddie's mannerisms, how he moved and talked, etc. Or you could just get Freddie Mercury in (well, one small problem).

Gervais just picked a bunch of stereotypical "learning disabled-y" looking mannerisms and squished them together. A good actor would actually study how people with a learning disability act and move about and how they talk. Or you could just get someone who actually has a learning disability to play the part.

You can measure this by how people with learning disabilities, their family and carers reacted to the show. Although I'm sure they're exceptions, most that I've read is that it comes across as a joke - with learning disabilities the butt of it - instead of a portrayal they're happy to see."

Marlon Brando played a stereotypical Mafia Don in The Godfather, Dustin Hoffman played a stereotypical Autistic in Rain Man, Sylvester Stallone played a stereotypical boxer in Rocky, similarly Tom Hanks portrayal of Forest Gump was stereotypical. Were they all bad performances as well then?

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


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Marlon Brando played a stereotypical Mafia Don in The Godfather, Dustin Hoffman played a stereotypical Autistic in Rain Man, Sylvester Stallone played a stereotypical boxer in Rocky, similarly Tom Hanks portrayal of Forest Gump was stereotypical. Were they all bad performances as well then?"

lovely bit of logic!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is your point that you didn't believe his portrayal of that character??

Yup, that's the one. He didn't do a good job of the role, and it came off as if he was just taking the piss. He's a bad actor, and his performance undermined the show. People quite fairly called him out it, too.

Imagine if you had someone playing Freddie Mercury, and they knew he was gay, so they just acted with a limp hand and mispronouncing their S's - as in, performing a stereotype. A good actor would actually study Freddie's mannerisms, how he moved and talked, etc. Or you could just get Freddie Mercury in (well, one small problem).

Gervais just picked a bunch of stereotypical "learning disabled-y" looking mannerisms and squished them together. A good actor would actually study how people with a learning disability act and move about and how they talk. Or you could just get someone who actually has a learning disability to play the part.

You can measure this by how people with learning disabilities, their family and carers reacted to the show. Although I'm sure they're exceptions, most that I've read is that it comes across as a joke - with learning disabilities the butt of it - instead of a portrayal they're happy to see.

Marlon Brando played a stereotypical Mafia Don in The Godfather, Dustin Hoffman played a stereotypical Autistic in Rain Man, Sylvester Stallone played a stereotypical boxer in Rocky, similarly Tom Hanks portrayal of Forest Gump was stereotypical. Were they all bad performances as well then?"

You forgot about

Daniel day Lewis in my left foot. What a horrible cunt for being an able bodied man playing a disabled man. How fucking dare he.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is your point that you didn't believe his portrayal of that character??

Yup, that's the one. He didn't do a good job of the role, and it came off as if he was just taking the piss. He's a bad actor, and his performance undermined the show. People quite fairly called him out it, too.

Imagine if you had someone playing Freddie Mercury, and they knew he was gay, so they just acted with a limp hand and mispronouncing their S's - as in, performing a stereotype. A good actor would actually study Freddie's mannerisms, how he moved and talked, etc. Or you could just get Freddie Mercury in (well, one small problem).

Gervais just picked a bunch of stereotypical "learning disabled-y" looking mannerisms and squished them together. A good actor would actually study how people with a learning disability act and move about and how they talk. Or you could just get someone who actually has a learning disability to play the part.

You can measure this by how people with learning disabilities, their family and carers reacted to the show. Although I'm sure they're exceptions, most that I've read is that it comes across as a joke - with learning disabilities the butt of it - instead of a portrayal they're happy to see.

Marlon Brando played a stereotypical Mafia Don in The Godfather, Dustin Hoffman played a stereotypical Autistic in Rain Man, Sylvester Stallone played a stereotypical boxer in Rocky, similarly Tom Hanks portrayal of Forest Gump was stereotypical. Were they all bad performances as well then?

You forgot about

Daniel day Lewis in my left foot. What a horrible cunt for being an able bodied man playing a disabled man. How fucking dare he.

"

I haven’t seen, or heard of, that film but I’m going to look it up as I love Daniel Day Lewis. Knowing how intense he is about method acting I’m sure he at least spent a good while in a wheel chair before filming started.

Same can be said for Tom Cruise in Born on The Fourth of July.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is your point that you didn't believe his portrayal of that character??

Yup, that's the one. He didn't do a good job of the role, and it came off as if he was just taking the piss. He's a bad actor, and his performance undermined the show. People quite fairly called him out it, too.

Imagine if you had someone playing Freddie Mercury, and they knew he was gay, so they just acted with a limp hand and mispronouncing their S's - as in, performing a stereotype. A good actor would actually study Freddie's mannerisms, how he moved and talked, etc. Or you could just get Freddie Mercury in (well, one small problem).

Gervais just picked a bunch of stereotypical "learning disabled-y" looking mannerisms and squished them together. A good actor would actually study how people with a learning disability act and move about and how they talk. Or you could just get someone who actually has a learning disability to play the part.

You can measure this by how people with learning disabilities, their family and carers reacted to the show. Although I'm sure they're exceptions, most that I've read is that it comes across as a joke - with learning disabilities the butt of it - instead of a portrayal they're happy to see.

Marlon Brando played a stereotypical Mafia Don in The Godfather, Dustin Hoffman played a stereotypical Autistic in Rain Man, Sylvester Stallone played a stereotypical boxer in Rocky, similarly Tom Hanks portrayal of Forest Gump was stereotypical. Were they all bad performances as well then?

You forgot about

Daniel day Lewis in my left foot. What a horrible cunt for being an able bodied man playing a disabled man. How fucking dare he.

I haven’t seen, or heard of, that film but I’m going to look it up as I love Daniel Day Lewis. Knowing how intense he is about method acting I’m sure he at least spent a good while in a wheel chair before filming started.

Same can be said for Tom Cruise in Born on The Fourth of July. "

If my left foot doesn't break your heart. You are NOT HUMAN. THATS FACT.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'm more of an admirer than not. He's often very outstanding

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can see why he offends people but I do think that people who are offended by him are missing the point a bit. He says things that he doesn’t actually believe to be true but he knows it’ll wind people up and he seems to enjoy winding people up. Like at the start of his latest stand up when he’s pretending that he can’t think of a single funny female comedian, I’m pretty sure that he doesn’t really think there aren’t any funny female comedians and is just saying it for a reaction.

When I was younger and used to go out drinking with a big group of mates we were constantly winding each other up like that because it’s funny to see how people react. One of our mates got angry really easily over the most insignificant things so we would say things that we didn’t really believe just to get him angry. He absolutely hated it when footballers dived so we used to say that they’re right to dive and it’s part of the game etc just to annoy him, I absolutely hate diving and didn’t agree with anything I’d say but I loved seeing him get wound up over it.

However, it’s completely different doing it in the pub compared to saying something that millions of people will hear because there will be a lot of people who won’t realise that he’s being ironic and take everything he says literally and think that because that’s what he thinks then they’re ok to think it as well and it will reinforce the negative stereotypes they have in their head. I’ve heard people say that women comedians aren’t funny in a non ironic way so those people will probably think he’s being non ironic. But why should Ricky Gervais filter what he says to accommodate narrow minded people who might not get him.

The problem is it’s not a black and white issue, we can’t say that comedians shouldn’t say anything that might offend someone and comedians shouldn’t just say whatever they want to without considering who they might offend but a lot of people aren’t prepared to see the grey areas of an argument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the mans a comedy genius, and he has a go at everyone in general but doesn't single out people in the audience and pick on them like some comedians which i don't like. Supernature had me in stitches and cringing at the same time, like he usually does.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"I can see why he offends people but I do think that people who are offended by him are missing the point a bit. He says things that he doesn’t actually believe to be true but he knows it’ll wind people up and he seems to enjoy winding people up. Like at the start of his latest stand up when he’s pretending that he can’t think of a single funny female comedian, I’m pretty sure that he doesn’t really think there aren’t any funny female comedians and is just saying it for a reaction. "

Yet, by doing that, he empowers those who genuinely believe there are no funny female comedians.

Could he not have gone on to make jokes about the myopic people who don't think females can be funny?

And how many years do we have to hear him make jokes about trans people before we can say it might not just be irony? He's apparently obsessed with the subject.

And the dwarf jokes at the end of his recent set were not funny - unless we agree that it's okay to laugh at dwarves. No irony there.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"Marlon Brando played a stereotypical Mafia Don in The Godfather, Dustin Hoffman played a stereotypical Autistic in Rain Man, Sylvester Stallone played a stereotypical boxer in Rocky, similarly Tom Hanks portrayal of Forest Gump was stereotypical. Were they all bad performances as well then?"

I agree with your general point, but these roles don't belong together. You've mentioned two jobs (which anyone could act) and two identities.

Btw, as an autistic man, yes, Hoffman gave a bad amd damaging performance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Marlon Brando played a stereotypical Mafia Don in The Godfather, Dustin Hoffman played a stereotypical Autistic in Rain Man, Sylvester Stallone played a stereotypical boxer in Rocky, similarly Tom Hanks portrayal of Forest Gump was stereotypical. Were they all bad performances as well then?

I agree with your general point, but these roles don't belong together. You've mentioned two jobs (which anyone could act) and two identities.

Btw, as an autistic man, yes, Hoffman gave a bad amd damaging performance. "

I agree with your point about Hoffman, after watching the film as a kid I believed for a while that Autism gave you special powers like being able to count how many toothpicks are in a pile on the floor just from looking at them, that’s obviously not good for a film to fill kids minds with such nonsense. I think he acted it well though, it was just badly written…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can see why he offends people but I do think that people who are offended by him are missing the point a bit. He says things that he doesn’t actually believe to be true but he knows it’ll wind people up and he seems to enjoy winding people up. Like at the start of his latest stand up when he’s pretending that he can’t think of a single funny female comedian, I’m pretty sure that he doesn’t really think there aren’t any funny female comedians and is just saying it for a reaction.

Yet, by doing that, he empowers those who genuinely believe there are no funny female comedians.

Could he not have gone on to make jokes about the myopic people who don't think females can be funny?

And how many years do we have to hear him make jokes about trans people before we can say it might not just be irony? He's apparently obsessed with the subject.

And the dwarf jokes at the end of his recent set were not funny - unless we agree that it's okay to laugh at dwarves. No irony there. "

I say something similar further down the post about empowering incorrect ideas with his comments so I do agree.

Just to play devils advocate, and I don’t actually know the answer to this, has he ever said anything derogatory about trans people to imply he has an issue with them? Is telling a joke about something the same as being derogatory?

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"I say something similar further down the post about empowering incorrect ideas with his comments so I do agree.

Just to play devils advocate, and I don’t actually know the answer to this, has he ever said anything derogatory about trans people to imply he has an issue with them? Is telling a joke about something the same as being derogatory? "

Yes, sorry, I've now read your full comment and we seem to be on a similar page.

I can't answer your comment about his trans jokes directly, as though I *think* I've seen everything he's done, I cannot be sure.

Nevertheless, he - for some reason - has told dozens of trans jokes. It just strikes me as weird. Derogatory? I guess that is subjective. Yet, he has told numerous jokes that only work if you assume that trans women aren't real women.

I don't get the obsession.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not seen the latest special but have seen some clips of it on Twitter & Tik Tok.

Regardless of what you think of his style of humour, I'd argue the clip I saw wasn't even a joke. He is repeating statements made by various folk that I have read on Twitter or elsewhere ("her" penis for example) to highlight the fucking absurdity of it all. That's not punching down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love him, afterlife was genius. He got it spot on "
I didn't really like his work untill afterlife, one of the best series I have watched was brilliant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Derek was not very funny, and if they wanted to shine a spotlight on disability then.. why not cast a disabled person? It was weird - Gervais was too famous to play that character without people seeing it as anything other than mocking. He's also not a very good actor, which means he relies on lazy stereotypes when a better actor would've tried to capture more fully the mannerisms of the disability they were portraying (though, again, better still would just have been someone with said disability).

Haven't seen anything good since Extras; his stand-up seems to just be edge-baiting, which only really works somewhere like the Oscars where you're unquestioningly punching up.

So am i getting this right here?. Only disabled actors should play disabled characters?

On that premises.

Only Gay actors should play gay characters?

Only white actors should play historically white characters?

WTF?? Don't u see how this is wrong?

They are playing characters. The sexuality or gender of the actor is irrelevant, so long as they do the character justice and play them well.

Don't you think???

My point is that Gervais was shit at it and it just came off offensive.

You don't need to have a disabled actor play the part but it's a missed opportunity, right? It would be an actual portrayal of disability, instead of an unrepresentative set of what are essentially stereotypes."
offensive to who?? The only people that could be offended are thos with the same disabilities as the character and I can't see them careing.

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By *hyguy469Man
over a year ago

BROMSGROVE

Gervais is an absolute genius.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t like him and he certainly isn’t funny imho

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

He’s like marmite and I love marmite.I thought Derek was brilliant his ability to put you on a emotional rollercoaster is pure genius .

Not sure why anyone would even use the word bully to describe his portrayal of someone so innocent who seen the good in everyone and everything.

Most of what he says is spot on and while I agree his jokes are not to everyone’s taste if your easily offended then just don’t watch his stand up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never liked him to start with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm torn on Gervais. I've got a big soft spot for him because of the office and extras but I cant back some of his stuff because I wouldn't accept it from anyone else.

If you think Derek is s loving portrayal, you should watch his early videos on the character. Oh wait, you can't.. they've all been deleted.

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