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By *ools and the brain OP Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

We all have seen them,it could be a family member a friend a neighbour a work colleague a stranger or YOU.

A growing trend of people who literally don't give a fuck about anyone else or anything.

Selfish,self centered and completely ignorant and lacking in respect of others.

You know the one's,loud parties,think that everything is theirs, constantly doing loud messy DIY,the tailgating on motorways, undertaking,not stopping at junctions, pushing in queues the list goes on.

Yeah people say ignore them get on with your own life BUT these people are so intrusive and their behaviour overflows into everything and everyone around.

I find it incredibly depressing that I try my absolute hardest to be considerate of others when driving, working and just living in general yet the people who I am talking about are just everywhere now.

This Is definitely something that's grown since lockdown,it's seeping into many walk's of life an example being pitch invasions at football matches.

Are we on the verge of a total meltdown of social etiquette and manners?

Or am I the only one who has noticed?

I imagine that the me only brigade will be along to tell me to mind my own business and that they will do what they want and speak how they like as soon as I post this.

This isn't aimed at anyone on fabs but more of a social observation of society in general today.

One last example.

The amount of people who jump red lights in car's now is ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah. Not just you. It’s rife everywhere, the me, me, me society.

Even from little things like walking down the street in small groups and taking the whole pavement and not moving out of the way. I just stand my ground and bump into them now and mostly get the filthiest looks yet they’re the ones taking up the whole space.

Noise. Litter. Driving. Everything is about them, and everyone else can fuck off. You’re right it’s on the increase.

I’m going to sound ancient now but it’s since you can’t punish or discipline anyone now. There’s a generation that have been told that they can do anything with no consequences. And we’re now seeing the effects of that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Humans are selfish creatures, it's in our making. Some people have a no fucks given attitude, but in general most people aren't being malicious. They just live in their own bubbles and other people around them don't really come into their thoughts. We are all selfish in some way or another and unfortunately that's the way society will always be.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I haven’t noticed but then most the things you list don’t bother me in the slightest. If I’m honest I value kindness and generosity well above manners and being considerate, sounds like you’re just getting old and grumpy ?

If someone needs to do loud DIY , they need to do it, if it bothers me I’ll go talk to them. If a party is too loud and late I’ll go tell them. Pitch invasions ? They look fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess that when we have a leader who does what he likes, everyone copies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nah. Not just you. It’s rife everywhere, the me, me, me society.

Even from little things like walking down the street in small groups and taking the whole pavement and not moving out of the way. I just stand my ground and bump into them now and mostly get the filthiest looks yet they’re the ones taking up the whole space.

Noise. Litter. Driving. Everything is about them, and everyone else can fuck off. You’re right it’s on the increase.

I’m going to sound ancient now but it’s since you can’t punish or discipline anyone now. There’s a generation that have been told that they can do anything with no consequences. And we’re now seeing the effects of that. "

Discipline means to follow. And that's how we should discipline - by setting a good example for others to follow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if this is your world view, that's what you will see. Humans are programmed to do that. I don't find the world that way despite some bad things happening to me.

If you keep looking for examples of selfishness, you will find them. If you started looking for examples of kindness, generosity and joy, you'd also find them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree there are good and bad but overall in my life more good than bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Humans are selfish creatures, it's in our making. Some people have a no fucks given attitude, but in general most people aren't being malicious. They just live in their own bubbles and other people around them don't really come into their thoughts. We are all selfish in some way or another and unfortunately that's the way society will always be."

I was excepting to disagree with you about humans being selfish creatures. Because we aren’t, we are social creatures and that’s how we have survived.

I do agree with all your other points and couldn’t have said it better .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if this is your world view, that's what you will see. Humans are programmed to do that. I don't find the world that way despite some bad things happening to me.

If you keep looking for examples of selfishness, you will find them. If you started looking for examples of kindness, generosity and joy, you'd also find them.

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Wholly agree .

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

It's not restricted to a particular age group either. I was starting to think there was something in the water because of the number of people who just deliberately walk out in front of moving vehicles and start shouting abuse at the drivers as if it's their fault they almost got run over.

Those people who jump queues because they are late for a meeting.

Not sure if it's related to all the lockdowns and restrictions but there's a definite "I'm alright Jack" attitude across all generations recently.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

It’s always been there, I think some are just more aware of it now after the relative silence & isolation that the last 2 years bought.

People seem to be irritated by normal life, tolerance levels of everyday activities is low like doing DIY, have a party etc.

I don’t let it bother me, personally.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

"I think if this is your world view, that's what you will see. Humans are programmed to do that. I don't find the world that way despite some bad things happening to me.

If you keep looking for examples of selfishness, you will find them. If you started looking for examples of kindness, generosity and joy, you'd also find them.

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I disagree completely. For the first 49 years of my life I looked for examples of goodness and kindness in others because that was my nature. That was who I was. I rarely if ever found it to be reciprocated so all these lovely romantic ideas that you'll only see what you are looking for is a load of rubbish as far as I'm concerned.

I always gave people the benefit of the doubt but not anymore.

There are many good people out there but even if you only surround yourself with those it doesn't shut out the increasingly obvious selfishness of others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh, politicians you mean..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if this is your world view, that's what you will see. Humans are programmed to do that. I don't find the world that way despite some bad things happening to me.

If you keep looking for examples of selfishness, you will find them. If you started looking for examples of kindness, generosity and joy, you'd also find them.

I disagree completely. For the first 49 years of my life I looked for examples of goodness and kindness in others because that was my nature. That was who I was. I rarely if ever found it to be reciprocated so all these lovely romantic ideas that you'll only see what you are looking for is a load of rubbish as far as I'm concerned.

I always gave people the benefit of the doubt but not anymore.

There are many good people out there but even if you only surround yourself with those it doesn't shut out the increasingly obvious selfishness of others."

Genuinely, do I seem like a person who has romantic ideas? I don't think I do. And yet I choose to view the world optimistically.

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By *eneralPMan
over a year ago

other

"I guess that when we have a leader who does what he likes, everyone copies.

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THIS.

But also, when you are looking for these things you tend to see them more. I like to ignore them and crack on with my own little boring sad life.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

"I think if this is your world view, that's what you will see. Humans are programmed to do that. I don't find the world that way despite some bad things happening to me.

If you keep looking for examples of selfishness, you will find them. If you started looking for examples of kindness, generosity and joy, you'd also find them.

I disagree completely. For the first 49 years of my life I looked for examples of goodness and kindness in others because that was my nature. That was who I was. I rarely if ever found it to be reciprocated so all these lovely romantic ideas that you'll only see what you are looking for is a load of rubbish as far as I'm concerned.

I always gave people the benefit of the doubt but not anymore.

There are many good people out there but even if you only surround yourself with those it doesn't shut out the increasingly obvious selfishness of others.

Genuinely, do I seem like a person who has romantic ideas? I don't think I do. And yet I choose to view the world optimistically. "

As with every comment I make on here I speak from personal experience. Hence why I said as far as I'm concerned.

How others view things has no relevance in any of my comments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if this is your world view, that's what you will see. Humans are programmed to do that. I don't find the world that way despite some bad things happening to me.

If you keep looking for examples of selfishness, you will find them. If you started looking for examples of kindness, generosity and joy, you'd also find them.

I disagree completely. For the first 49 years of my life I looked for examples of goodness and kindness in others because that was my nature. That was who I was. I rarely if ever found it to be reciprocated so all these lovely romantic ideas that you'll only see what you are looking for is a load of rubbish as far as I'm concerned.

I always gave people the benefit of the doubt but not anymore.

There are many good people out there but even if you only surround yourself with those it doesn't shut out the increasingly obvious selfishness of others.

Genuinely, do I seem like a person who has romantic ideas? I don't think I do. And yet I choose to view the world optimistically.

As with every comment I make on here I speak from personal experience. Hence why I said as far as I'm concerned.

How others view things has no relevance in any of my comments. "

You replied to my comment and mentioned "lovely romantic ideas". My point is that it isn't. And I am not a lovely, romantic person.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

I can absolutely see your point OP.

I would also say that part of the resentment and reaction to ‘selfish acts’ is a selfish response. The ‘how can they get away with it’ or ‘if I did that, I’d get punished’ response is from a desire to act selfishly but can’t or won’t.

Humans are selfish creatures but conditioned to cooperate socially for greater gain. Genuine, true altruism is very rare.

It’s not that people are taking up the pavement, it’s that they didn’t get out of the way *for you*. It’s not that someone ran the red light, it’s that *you can’t*. It’s a selfish reaction to a selfish act which builds the resentment. The feeling that others didn’t factor you into their actions is all about the self. The question that then follows is; did you factor others into your actions? I think that most would struggle to honestly answer yes.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

It's not recent. It started to accelerate in the early eighties.

"Greed is good", "no such thing as society".

Can't begin to think what might have made it acceptable to be an out and out cunt to others!

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I think it's pretty obvious from the political landscape of this country that there's been an increasing shift towards focusing on ourselves rather than wider society as a whole and the irony is it has only led to a worse deal for everyone. But at least their "less deserving" neighbour doesn't have a higher share of the scraps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if this is your world view, that's what you will see. Humans are programmed to do that. I don't find the world that way despite some bad things happening to me.

If you keep looking for examples of selfishness, you will find them. If you started looking for examples of kindness, generosity and joy, you'd also find them.

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This was my instant reaction to the OP. There's a lot of talk about how lock downs have made people's behaviour worse so we start to notice it and confirmation bias ensures we believe it.

People haven't changed because of lockdown they've simply reacted to a (slightly) new environment the way they would normally react.

The idea that manners are decreasing, society getting less polite, the world going to the dogs etc etc is a old as time. If you start feeling like this it simply means you're getting old in your outlook. You'll soon be coming out with phrases like "when I was a lad" "in the good old days" "during the war" and (when it's got really bad) "I don't believe it"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to add, you'll often find the people bemoaning the lack of manners in others are the same people who dismiss the ideas of a younger generatation about what is a polite and kind way to live as being woke and those that push for a kinder attitude to others as being snowflakes.

What this shows is that people's drive to be kind or rude hasn't really changed, what changes is how these attitudes are displayed and if there's one thing humans really don't like it is change.

P.S. I will be comparing the comments of people on this thread with their answers on the "what would you do if you found £1000 thread to see who is a hypocritical twat

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By *aui.Man
over a year ago

around here

In some ways I actually admire people who don't give a fuck. I mean life is very short, why should we spend half our lives worrying about not offending others or going out of our way to make other peoples lives easier at the detriment of our own.

Don't get me wrong though I hate people pushing in etc and will duly let them know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understand your frustration. I have faced the issues you mentioned, especially with people playing loud music. But personally I haven't seen this behaviour increase/decrease after lockdown. Hard to say if it's a trend unless we collect statistics around these things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In some ways I actually admire people who don't give a fuck. I mean life is very short, why should we spend half our lives worrying about not offending others or going out of our way to make other peoples lives easier at the detriment of our own.

Don't get me wrong though I hate people pushing in etc and will duly let them know "

The thing is, if everyone does the same thing, the world will be hell. My neighbour was playing loud music at high bass on a Sunday night. I had to work on Monday morning and couldn't sleep. What if I did the same thing just around the time he wants to work? Offending others is one thing. I don't give a damn if others get offended. But disturbing others is another thing.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"I haven’t noticed but then most the things you list don’t bother me in the slightest. If I’m honest I value kindness and generosity well above manners and being considerate, sounds like you’re just getting old and grumpy ?

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I remember you have said in other threads that you jump red lights and generally try and force your way through at roadworks. I am not sure your judgment is accurate here.

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Cannot rely on anyone at work. Glad I am now freelance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As for people being selfish/not. The way I see it, every individual has goals and things they like to do. The individual also feels sympathetic towards others problem. But the individual will act on the compassion only if the action doesn't bother their own goals. Individuals cooperate with groups if it helps them achieve their own goals or at the very least doesn't affect them from reaching the goals.

That's the reason why societies liberalise when it becomes more wealthy. That's also the reason why a sense of community is much less in cities compared to villages. You don't really need others' help that much in a really wealthy city.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Every generation finds things to moan about. They are often just different things. I consider myself to be quite progressive and appreciate that things move on with time. However unfortunately there is generally a more aggressive attitude that people adopt at the moment. Either too cocky, dismissive and macho or less tolerant and easily offended. Almost two sides of the same thing. But on the whole sadly there is a more selfish behaviour about that you are expected to put up with and the older I get the less tolerant I am to it so I retreat to my safe home environment and eat cake

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

I do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. I don't let others behaviours affect me beyond shaking my head.

I do me, they can do them.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"I do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. I don't let others behaviours affect me beyond shaking my head.

I do me, they can do them."

Good attitude to have even when people forget what the right, decent or appropriate behaviour is

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By *iceHungWakefieldMan
over a year ago

there is a clue somewhere

The sooner people realise these roads are actually MY roads the better. Pip Pip..

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By *iceHungWakefieldMan
over a year ago

there is a clue somewhere

What we should be addressing is the complete lack of understanding of the Highway code many have. Jesus the number of times I see people sat at a roundabout looking like they have Bluescreened is ridiculous.

I Am turning into Victor Meldrew !

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

Nope you're not on your own op ,from neighbours who let their dog out to bark from 6.30 am pretty much on and off all day (I work nights).

People at work who try and book off weekends so others get stuck with them.

Those who push in queues and think they deserve to go first cos they're busy etc.

I could go on ,people are selfish and this world is full of the I'm alright jack mentality unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just to add, you'll often find the people bemoaning the lack of manners in others are the same people who dismiss the ideas of a younger generatation about what is a polite and kind way to live as being woke and those that push for a kinder attitude to others as being snowflakes.

What this shows is that people's drive to be kind or rude hasn't really changed, what changes is how these attitudes are displayed and if there's one thing humans really don't like it is change.

P.S. I will be comparing the comments of people on this thread with their answers on the "what would you do if you found £1000 thread to see who is a hypocritical twat

Mr"

I'd keep the cash, to save you from checking if I am a hypocritical twat

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

yes lots of entitled pricks out there men and women ... I had a guy really rude about stuff as I asked him to politely move his car from a parking spot abit so I can get mine out .. all I got as a barrage mouth and spat at so I put him through the fence face first .....

only way to teach some people about cause and effect ..

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight

The trouble is those mentioned by the OP will have offspring that will be raised to be like that and some.

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