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"Wow dose anyone else admire lizzo i personaly think she is stunning she hot and to be a bigger girl and wearing what she dose with confidence is amazing "Who? | |||
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"Love Lizzo. Love her voice. She looks amazing. " She can certainly belt it out! | |||
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"Wasn't she in grease? That's rizzo an equally fabulous person!"Then I have no idea who lizzo is.
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"Wasn't she in grease? That's rizzo an equally fabulous person!
Then I have no idea who lizzo is.
She sounds Australian. "Google is your friend. Although how you can miss her existence god only knows. She's rather popular. | |||
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"Love Lizzo. 100% that bitch. " Oooh, I think it's bad bitch  | |||
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"Wasn't she in grease? That's rizzo an equally fabulous person!
Then I have no idea who lizzo is.
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Google is your friend. Although how you can miss her existence god only knows. She's rather popular. "Well said! Praise be for Google. Lizzo is hot. She may be a fuller figured woman but can certainly move | |||
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"Wasn't she in grease? That's rizzo an equally fabulous person!
Then I have no idea who lizzo is.
She sounds Australian.
Google is your friend. Although how you can miss her existence god only knows. She's rather popular. "Today is the first time I've heard of her. I had to Google. | |||
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"Love Lizzo. 100% that bitch. Oooh, I think it's bad bitch "Haha | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity " Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy" She's a vegan and eats incredibly healthily as well. | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy" Not at first but carrying too much fat seriously increases the risks of some pretty nasty illnesses & conditions. Professional rugby players are most likely officially overweight, but they're elite athletes & carry more muscle & less fat- comparing the 2 just doesn't work. Lizzo is fab- I love her music & confidence. I haven't heard her promoting her obesity as being acceptable in the same way that Tess Halliday has done though. | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy Not at first but carrying too much fat seriously increases the risks of some pretty nasty illnesses & conditions. Professional rugby players are most likely officially overweight, but they're elite athletes & carry more muscle & less fat- comparing the 2 just doesn't work. Lizzo is fab- I love her music & confidence. I haven't heard her promoting her obesity as being acceptable in the same way that Tess Halliday has done though." And from a friend that used to work in a&e the amount of exercise related injuries is incredibly high. Now I’m not saying people shouldn’t keep fit ect but by pin pointing increasing risks on our bodies from the lifestyle we chose is pretty pointless if it does not concern you. It’s a medical statistic that has never fully been proven given all our bodies and lifestyles are different . No more than my fat arse having a heart attack pushing my trolley up the chocolate isle in asda to a guy peddling up a hill on time to many or the alcoholic that tripped and fell to his death ( bit dramatic I know) all of us may well have lived to a ripe old age. And been happy doing so without others telling us how to live | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy Not at first but carrying too much fat seriously increases the risks of some pretty nasty illnesses & conditions. Professional rugby players are most likely officially overweight, but they're elite athletes & carry more muscle & less fat- comparing the 2 just doesn't work. Lizzo is fab- I love her music & confidence. I haven't heard her promoting her obesity as being acceptable in the same way that Tess Halliday has done though. And from a friend that used to work in a&e the amount of exercise related injuries is incredibly high. Now I’m not saying people shouldn’t keep fit ect but by pin pointing increasing risks on our bodies from the lifestyle we chose is pretty pointless if it does not concern you. It’s a medical statistic that has never fully been proven given all our bodies and lifestyles are different . No more than my fat arse having a heart attack pushing my trolley up the chocolate isle in asda to a guy peddling up a hill on time to many or the alcoholic that tripped and fell to his death ( bit dramatic I know) all of us may well have lived to a ripe old age. And been happy doing so without others telling us how to live "But it is all relative isn't it? I've been up/down in weight and fitness for years. But I still know the difference between when I can walk up the stairs wheezing or not? Nothing wrong at all with being bigger/full bodied/fat. But when it's actually impacting on your personal health its not great... | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy" Having that much fat is unhealthy as it is. No matter how healthy you eat or how much you exercise. Having a body fat % of probably 40-50% is going to shorten your life. That’s not to knock her as a person. Love her confidence, like her music. But I think we’re blurring the lines of what’s healthy. No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy Not at first but carrying too much fat seriously increases the risks of some pretty nasty illnesses & conditions. Professional rugby players are most likely officially overweight, but they're elite athletes & carry more muscle & less fat- comparing the 2 just doesn't work. Lizzo is fab- I love her music & confidence. I haven't heard her promoting her obesity as being acceptable in the same way that Tess Halliday has done though. And from a friend that used to work in a&e the amount of exercise related injuries is incredibly high. Now I’m not saying people shouldn’t keep fit ect but by pin pointing increasing risks on our bodies from the lifestyle we chose is pretty pointless if it does not concern you. It’s a medical statistic that has never fully been proven given all our bodies and lifestyles are different . No more than my fat arse having a heart attack pushing my trolley up the chocolate isle in asda to a guy peddling up a hill on time to many or the alcoholic that tripped and fell to his death ( bit dramatic I know) all of us may well have lived to a ripe old age. And been happy doing so without others telling us how to live
But it is all relative isn't it? I've been up/down in weight and fitness for years. But I still know the difference between when I can walk up the stairs wheezing or not? Nothing wrong at all with being bigger/full bodied/fat. But when it's actually impacting on your personal health its not great..."key words there your personal health. Your not me. We are all different. And if you are suffering that’s your choice to take action. It’s nobody else’s business to be pointing that out to you like you don’t already know. And that’s what Tess Halliday message has always been.. my body..my life. The fact that she’s a plus size model of course will put her in the firing line for having that attitude. But If she wasn’t in that line of work she still has that right to say ..I’m not your concern. To many people feel they have a right to point out issues with another persons body and what they think and frankly it’s shameful. Unless I’m sat on that persons face or their paying my food bill.. my weight is not their concern. | |||
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"Personally, on the forums, I don't like to go Google something and come back being the oracle about something. If I was having a one-to-one conversation with someone, in a bar for instance, and them mentioned something, I wouldn't say, hold, let me Google that. And stand there searching mid conversation. I treat the forums like that. " But we're not in a bar. We're on the internet, where Google live 
And actually if a topic comes up when I'm out with friends and I don't know who or what something is, I look it up while others are talking so I know at least something if what is being discussed. I don't halt the proceedings for it. It's quick and subtle.
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"Ah I see the all fat is bad trolls are being (ironically) fed! Lizzo is fantastic and existing in a fat body is not promoting obesity!" I completely agree apart from calling people who point out the health risks from obesity 'trolls'  | |||
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"Ah I see the all fat is bad trolls are being (ironically) fed! Lizzo is fantastic and existing in a fat body is not promoting obesity!" And loving yourself and your body isn’t either. I think the argument always descends into that. | |||
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"Ah I see the all fat is bad trolls are being (ironically) fed! Lizzo is fantastic and existing in a fat body is not promoting obesity! I completely agree apart from calling people who point out the health risks from obesity 'trolls' "And you don’t think a person over weight is not already aware of it and need strangers to point it out ? | |||
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"Ah I see the all fat is bad trolls are being (ironically) fed! Lizzo is fantastic and existing in a fat body is not promoting obesity! I completely agree apart from calling people who point out the health risks from obesity 'trolls'
And you don’t think a person over weight is not already aware of it and need strangers to point it out ?"I don’t think anyone suggesting she doesn’t know or needs to be told I think the lines between what’s actually healthy vs being happy in your own skin is being blurred by the body confidence stuff. The UK and US have a serious obesity problem and some children and young adults look to celebs as role models. I think the message that it’s absolutely fine bring they obesity, and it even being celebrated, is a dangerous line to walk if we aren’t being educated on real health markers Even in this thread people are suggesting that being 40-50% body fat (my estimate of where lizzo is) isn’t unhealthy. That’s just absolutely wild. Is that a mindset we want passed down to kids in a population where child obesity is booming? That’s being obese isn’t actually that bad, just love yourself 
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"Ah I see the all fat is bad trolls are being (ironically) fed! Lizzo is fantastic and existing in a fat body is not promoting obesity! I completely agree apart from calling people who point out the health risks from obesity 'trolls' "Why point it out. Why does it need to be said? This was an appreciation post for a singer who just simply sings and dances. She's not promoting an eating programme to make people fat. She's not told any one that being fat is amazing and everyone should do it. No one asked if she was healthy. No one except her and her dr's need to know that. Yet you seem to think it's your duty to go around telling people how unhealthy she is. Do you really think fat people don't know the risks? Di you do the same when people talk about celebrities who smoke, or do drugs, or partake in other type of lifestyle that carries risk? Would you raise the same 'health concerns' on a post celebrating super models who exhibit eating disorders and dangerously low body weight. Or is it just fat bodies existing and doing well you have an issue with? You aren't concerned with the health of strangers on the internet. You don't understand how the constant battle for weight loss affects someone mental health, how hatred for your fat body borne from the judgemental attitudes of others pervades your every thought. Accepting and loving your body for what it is is such an amazing feeling and it is this that often leads to most success in treating your body better. Fat people don't need your false concerns for their health. | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy Not at first but carrying too much fat seriously increases the risks of some pretty nasty illnesses & conditions. Professional rugby players are most likely officially overweight, but they're elite athletes & carry more muscle & less fat- comparing the 2 just doesn't work. Lizzo is fab- I love her music & confidence. I haven't heard her promoting her obesity as being acceptable in the same way that Tess Halliday has done though. And from a friend that used to work in a&e the amount of exercise related injuries is incredibly high. Now I’m not saying people shouldn’t keep fit ect but by pin pointing increasing risks on our bodies from the lifestyle we chose is pretty pointless if it does not concern you. It’s a medical statistic that has never fully been proven given all our bodies and lifestyles are different . No more than my fat arse having a heart attack pushing my trolley up the chocolate isle in asda to a guy peddling up a hill on time to many or the alcoholic that tripped and fell to his death ( bit dramatic I know) all of us may well have lived to a ripe old age. And been happy doing so without others telling us how to live
But it is all relative isn't it? I've been up/down in weight and fitness for years. But I still know the difference between when I can walk up the stairs wheezing or not? Nothing wrong at all with being bigger/full bodied/fat. But when it's actually impacting on your personal health its not great...
key words there your personal health. Your not me. We are all different. And if you are suffering that’s your choice to take action. It’s nobody else’s business to be pointing that out to you like you don’t already know.
And that’s what Tess Halliday message has always been.. my body..my life. The fact that she’s a plus size model of course will put her in the firing line for having that attitude. But If she wasn’t in that line of work she still has that right to say ..I’m not your concern.
To many people feel they have a right to point out issues with another persons body and what they think and frankly it’s shameful.
Unless I’m sat on that persons face or their paying my food bill.. my weight is not their concern. "Umm, yep I used the word's 'personal health' so yep me, or anyone else. I personally don't think Tess Halliday is a cracking example to be honest? She's not even 30? So of course whilst she's a plus sized model her body is still organ/health wise still giving her the optimum it can regardless of her weight? Chances are when she hits menopause it'll not be going awesome for her so much then if she's still a larger lady? Or are we just rewriting the logistics of it because she looks awesome and validated in a bikini? | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy Not at first but carrying too much fat seriously increases the risks of some pretty nasty illnesses & conditions. Professional rugby players are most likely officially overweight, but they're elite athletes & carry more muscle & less fat- comparing the 2 just doesn't work. Lizzo is fab- I love her music & confidence. I haven't heard her promoting her obesity as being acceptable in the same way that Tess Halliday has done though. And from a friend that used to work in a&e the amount of exercise related injuries is incredibly high. Now I’m not saying people shouldn’t keep fit ect but by pin pointing increasing risks on our bodies from the lifestyle we chose is pretty pointless if it does not concern you. It’s a medical statistic that has never fully been proven given all our bodies and lifestyles are different . No more than my fat arse having a heart attack pushing my trolley up the chocolate isle in asda to a guy peddling up a hill on time to many or the alcoholic that tripped and fell to his death ( bit dramatic I know) all of us may well have lived to a ripe old age. And been happy doing so without others telling us how to live
But it is all relative isn't it? I've been up/down in weight and fitness for years. But I still know the difference between when I can walk up the stairs wheezing or not? Nothing wrong at all with being bigger/full bodied/fat. But when it's actually impacting on your personal health its not great...
key words there your personal health. Your not me. We are all different. And if you are suffering that’s your choice to take action. It’s nobody else’s business to be pointing that out to you like you don’t already know.
And that’s what Tess Halliday message has always been.. my body..my life. The fact that she’s a plus size model of course will put her in the firing line for having that attitude. But If she wasn’t in that line of work she still has that right to say ..I’m not your concern.
To many people feel they have a right to point out issues with another persons body and what they think and frankly it’s shameful.
Unless I’m sat on that persons face or their paying my food bill.. my weight is not their concern.
Umm, yep I used the word's 'personal health' so yep me, or anyone else. I personally don't think Tess Halliday is a cracking example to be honest? She's not even 30? So of course whilst she's a plus sized model her body is still organ/health wise still giving her the optimum it can regardless of her weight? Chances are when she hits menopause it'll not be going awesome for her so much then if she's still a larger lady? Or are we just rewriting the logistics of it because she looks awesome and validated in a bikini? "Are you talking about Tess Holliday? She's 36. | |||
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"Ah I see the all fat is bad trolls are being (ironically) fed! Lizzo is fantastic and existing in a fat body is not promoting obesity! I completely agree apart from calling people who point out the health risks from obesity 'trolls'
And you don’t think a person over weight is not already aware of it and need strangers to point it out ?
I don’t think anyone suggesting she doesn’t know or needs to be told
I think the lines between what’s actually healthy vs being happy in your own skin is being blurred by the body confidence stuff.
The UK and US have a serious obesity problem and some children and young adults look to celebs as role models. I think the message that it’s absolutely fine bring they obesity, and it even being celebrated, is a dangerous line to walk if we aren’t being educated on real health markers
Even in this thread people are suggesting that being 40-50% body fat (my estimate of where lizzo is) isn’t unhealthy. That’s just absolutely wild. Is that a mindset we want passed down to kids in a population where child obesity is booming? That’s being obese isn’t actually that bad, just love yourself
I think it’s a delicate line to tread. No one should be told their weight defines who they are as a person. But they should be made aware that it could cause serious health complications and lead to an early death "Well I’m going to continue in my supposedly state of denial and be happy in my over stretched skin not raising my blood pressure through stressing I’m not the perfect size and elevating those hormones and endorphins you get when being a happy person. I shall encourage this euphoric feeling by stealing sweets from small Children and agreeing to disagree with your opinion. Have a marvellous weekend | |||
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"To be fair the OP refers to Lizzo as a 'bigger girl' so within respectful boundaries her weight is a fair subject on this thread. She has also talked about it loads!" Does it say 'bigger girl with health issues due to her size'? I think those of us who know who lizzo is know she's a bigger girl. It just irks me that there can't be any appreciation of a bigger person with out the 'its not healthy' brigade jumping in where it's not needed. | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy Not at first but carrying too much fat seriously increases the risks of some pretty nasty illnesses & conditions. Professional rugby players are most likely officially overweight, but they're elite athletes & carry more muscle & less fat- comparing the 2 just doesn't work. Lizzo is fab- I love her music & confidence. I haven't heard her promoting her obesity as being acceptable in the same way that Tess Halliday has done though. And from a friend that used to work in a&e the amount of exercise related injuries is incredibly high. Now I’m not saying people shouldn’t keep fit ect but by pin pointing increasing risks on our bodies from the lifestyle we chose is pretty pointless if it does not concern you. It’s a medical statistic that has never fully been proven given all our bodies and lifestyles are different . No more than my fat arse having a heart attack pushing my trolley up the chocolate isle in asda to a guy peddling up a hill on time to many or the alcoholic that tripped and fell to his death ( bit dramatic I know) all of us may well have lived to a ripe old age. And been happy doing so without others telling us how to live
But it is all relative isn't it? I've been up/down in weight and fitness for years. But I still know the difference between when I can walk up the stairs wheezing or not? Nothing wrong at all with being bigger/full bodied/fat. But when it's actually impacting on your personal health its not great...
key words there your personal health. Your not me. We are all different. And if you are suffering that’s your choice to take action. It’s nobody else’s business to be pointing that out to you like you don’t already know.
And that’s what Tess Halliday message has always been.. my body..my life. The fact that she’s a plus size model of course will put her in the firing line for having that attitude. But If she wasn’t in that line of work she still has that right to say ..I’m not your concern.
To many people feel they have a right to point out issues with another persons body and what they think and frankly it’s shameful.
Unless I’m sat on that persons face or their paying my food bill.. my weight is not their concern.
Umm, yep I used the word's 'personal health' so yep me, or anyone else. I personally don't think Tess Halliday is a cracking example to be honest? She's not even 30? So of course whilst she's a plus sized model her body is still organ/health wise still giving her the optimum it can regardless of her weight? Chances are when she hits menopause it'll not be going awesome for her so much then if she's still a larger lady? Or are we just rewriting the logistics of it because she looks awesome and validated in a bikini?
Are you talking about Tess Holliday? She's 36. "I’m 52 in menopause and rocking the best phase (bar the heat and mood swings) and I’ve been obese my entire life … no Ill effects here. | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy Not at first but carrying too much fat seriously increases the risks of some pretty nasty illnesses & conditions. Professional rugby players are most likely officially overweight, but they're elite athletes & carry more muscle & less fat- comparing the 2 just doesn't work. Lizzo is fab- I love her music & confidence. I haven't heard her promoting her obesity as being acceptable in the same way that Tess Halliday has done though. And from a friend that used to work in a&e the amount of exercise related injuries is incredibly high. Now I’m not saying people shouldn’t keep fit ect but by pin pointing increasing risks on our bodies from the lifestyle we chose is pretty pointless if it does not concern you. It’s a medical statistic that has never fully been proven given all our bodies and lifestyles are different . No more than my fat arse having a heart attack pushing my trolley up the chocolate isle in asda to a guy peddling up a hill on time to many or the alcoholic that tripped and fell to his death ( bit dramatic I know) all of us may well have lived to a ripe old age. And been happy doing so without others telling us how to live
But it is all relative isn't it? I've been up/down in weight and fitness for years. But I still know the difference between when I can walk up the stairs wheezing or not? Nothing wrong at all with being bigger/full bodied/fat. But when it's actually impacting on your personal health its not great...
key words there your personal health. Your not me. We are all different. And if you are suffering that’s your choice to take action. It’s nobody else’s business to be pointing that out to you like you don’t already know.
And that’s what Tess Halliday message has always been.. my body..my life. The fact that she’s a plus size model of course will put her in the firing line for having that attitude. But If she wasn’t in that line of work she still has that right to say ..I’m not your concern.
To many people feel they have a right to point out issues with another persons body and what they think and frankly it’s shameful.
Unless I’m sat on that persons face or their paying my food bill.. my weight is not their concern.
Umm, yep I used the word's 'personal health' so yep me, or anyone else. I personally don't think Tess Halliday is a cracking example to be honest? She's not even 30? So of course whilst she's a plus sized model her body is still organ/health wise still giving her the optimum it can regardless of her weight? Chances are when she hits menopause it'll not be going awesome for her so much then if she's still a larger lady? Or are we just rewriting the logistics of it because she looks awesome and validated in a bikini?
Are you talking about Tess Holliday? She's 36. "My apologies, she is indeed! And she looks awesome, and I'm also a big woman myself. But I don't kid myself it's great for me when I know the reality is its not? I'm 42, my joints feel the extra pressure, my lungs (test younger at the GPS), but my blood pressure is high, and I can't take the additional weight on my gammy ankle. So it's very much a case of put up, shut up, or sort it out | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. " | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. " NAILED IT | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. " But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? " So no fat person should ever have success and be celebrated for their talents simply because they are fat? That's all that is happening with lizzo. Point me to where she is telling people to get fat? Then I'll point you to thousands of accounts promoting eating disorders and disordered eating that are harming people in their chase for the 'perfect body'. What has lizzo's weight got to do with how well she can sing? | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? " It's not being glamourised though, that's how people like you are viewing it just because you see a fat person who embraces their body. | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? " Oh dear lord let us list the glamourised other methods that could lead to Bad health, early death ect or should we just keep up with the obvious fat one. For example amount of road/ street runners who later in life end up with hip/joint and spinal issues on long term high impact. Not setting up a pitch fork campaign for that act of healthy living are we. | |||
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"Wow dose anyone else admire lizzo i personaly think she is stunning she hot and to be a bigger girl and wearing what she dose with confidence is amazing "
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? It's not being glamourised though, that's how people like you are viewing it just because you see a fat person who embraces their body. " 'people like me'? I'm 42, 5'7, and UK 18/20. My point was that I don't personally feel that it's a great thing to state that being larger is aspirational health wise? Because as much as I'm good with my body, I don't think that stating bigger sized bodies should be normalised. Or am I not allowed to hold my own opinion within my own skin? | |||
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"Wasn't she in grease? That's rizzo an equally fabulous person!
Then I have no idea who lizzo is.
She sounds Australian.
Google is your friend. Although how you can miss her existence god only knows. She's rather popular.
Today is the first time I've heard of her. I had to Google. "Ditto. Though had head the name mentioned on the radio but had not idea who she was or her music. Has a great voice and seems a good dancer. Very talented. | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? It's not being glamourised though, that's how people like you are viewing it just because you see a fat person who embraces their body. 'people like me'? I'm 42, 5'7, and UK 18/20. My point was that I don't personally feel that it's a great thing to state that being larger is aspirational health wise? Because as much as I'm good with my body, I don't think that stating bigger sized bodies should be normalised. Or am I not allowed to hold my own opinion within my own skin?" Who said it was aspirational? | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? It's not being glamourised though, that's how people like you are viewing it just because you see a fat person who embraces their body. 'people like me'? I'm 42, 5'7, and UK 18/20. My point was that I don't personally feel that it's a great thing to state that being larger is aspirational health wise? Because as much as I'm good with my body, I don't think that stating bigger sized bodies should be normalised. Or am I not allowed to hold my own opinion within my own skin? Who said it was aspirational?" Fair enough. So as a larger lady myself, am I not allowed to state my personal opinion on the potential negative health effects purely on myself?... Or would you like to pick a bone out of that statement too? | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? It's not being glamourised though, that's how people like you are viewing it just because you see a fat person who embraces their body. 'people like me'? I'm 42, 5'7, and UK 18/20. My point was that I don't personally feel that it's a great thing to state that being larger is aspirational health wise? Because as much as I'm good with my body, I don't think that stating bigger sized bodies should be normalised. Or am I not allowed to hold my own opinion within my own skin? Who said it was aspirational? Fair enough. So as a larger lady myself, am I not allowed to state my personal opinion on the potential negative health effects purely on myself?... Or would you like to pick a bone out of that statement too? "I think everyone here is in agreement that being overweight can come with health risks and nobody has said you can't have that opinion? So I'm not sure what the point is you're trying to make? | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? It's not being glamourised though, that's how people like you are viewing it just because you see a fat person who embraces their body. 'people like me'? I'm 42, 5'7, and UK 18/20. My point was that I don't personally feel that it's a great thing to state that being larger is aspirational health wise? Because as much as I'm good with my body, I don't think that stating bigger sized bodies should be normalised. Or am I not allowed to hold my own opinion within my own skin? Who said it was aspirational? Fair enough. So as a larger lady myself, am I not allowed to state my personal opinion on the potential negative health effects purely on myself?... Or would you like to pick a bone out of that statement too? "I've not said you can't have an opinion but you said people were saying it was aspirational when I've read the whole thread and they haven't. Good on you for wanting to make changes to your personal body weight for your own reasons. I genuinely celebrate that. I myself have lost just under 3 stone recently and want to lose more. I just simply don't make my personal journey the one that every one should be on. I love my body now, I loved my body then, I will live my body wherever I end up. I'm not promoting any size or any weight. I'm not picking a bone out of a statement, just merely clarifying a point you made. | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? Oh dear lord let us list the glamourised other methods that could lead to Bad health, early death ect or should we just keep up with the obvious fat one. For example amount of road/ street runners who later in life end up with hip/joint and spinal issues on long term high impact. Not setting up a pitch fork campaign for that act of healthy living are we. " Let's face it- life is a terminal illness & we're all gonna die of something. I was an obese 5'7 23st woman & through the luck of having a great GP was given the opportunity of bariatric surgery & I'm now (still a bit overweight) 13 stone, so I know 1st hand how tough everyday life was. People used to tell me I looked great & I used to pretend I was ok with it, but I was uncomfortable, had joint pain, high blood pressure, depression, paranoia & generally living half a life, all the while, raising my child. I now work with teenagers who are considered vulnerable & I'm seeing 1st hand how very impressionable they are to outside influences. I don't insult or put down anyone living with obesity because I know how difficult it is. I simply don't agree with some of the media attention stating how people such as Tess Halliday are living their 'best life', when subsequent interviews have highlighted her terrible relationship with food etc. I think if you're gonna put a glamorous photoshopped pic in a green basque on a magazine cover, Let's also hear about how day-to-day life in a morbidly obese body feels, because if she doesn't have aches, pains, chafing & some of the many other uncomfortable side effects, I'd be shocked!! | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? It's not being glamourised though, that's how people like you are viewing it just because you see a fat person who embraces their body. 'people like me'? I'm 42, 5'7, and UK 18/20. My point was that I don't personally feel that it's a great thing to state that being larger is aspirational health wise? Because as much as I'm good with my body, I don't think that stating bigger sized bodies should be normalised. Or am I not allowed to hold my own opinion within my own skin? Who said it was aspirational? Fair enough. So as a larger lady myself, am I not allowed to state my personal opinion on the potential negative health effects purely on myself?... Or would you like to pick a bone out of that statement too?
I've not said you can't have an opinion but you said people were saying it was aspirational when I've read the whole thread and they haven't.
Good on you for wanting to make changes to your personal body weight for your own reasons. I genuinely celebrate that. I myself have lost just under 3 stone recently and want to lose more. I just simply don't make my personal journey the one that every one should be on. I love my body now, I loved my body then, I will live my body wherever I end up. I'm not promoting any size or any weight.
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? Oh dear lord let us list the glamourised other methods that could lead to Bad health, early death ect or should we just keep up with the obvious fat one. For example amount of road/ street runners who later in life end up with hip/joint and spinal issues on long term high impact. Not setting up a pitch fork campaign for that act of healthy living are we. Let's face it- life is a terminal illness & we're all gonna die of something. I was an obese 5'7 23st woman & through the luck of having a great GP was given the opportunity of bariatric surgery & I'm now (still a bit overweight) 13 stone, so I know 1st hand how tough everyday life was. People used to tell me I looked great & I used to pretend I was ok with it, but I was uncomfortable, had joint pain, high blood pressure, depression, paranoia & generally living half a life, all the while, raising my child. I now work with teenagers who are considered vulnerable & I'm seeing 1st hand how very impressionable they are to outside influences. I don't insult or put down anyone living with obesity because I know how difficult it is. I simply don't agree with some of the media attention stating how people such as Tess Halliday are living their 'best life', when subsequent interviews have highlighted her terrible relationship with food etc. I think if you're gonna put a glamorous photoshopped pic in a green basque on a magazine cover, Let's also hear about how day-to-day life in a morbidly obese body feels, because if she doesn't have aches, pains, chafing & some of the many other uncomfortable side effects, I'd be shocked!! " I think this is actually aspirational, and you're awesome for doing what you've done | |||
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"I admire he confidence but I don’t admire the health side of it. We shouldn’t be admiring serious obesity Why??? Are you saying she’s unhealthy because of her size/bmi?? Because I see a large woman dancing and singing her arse off on stage and that is certainly not something an unhealthy person does. Do you think the same of the rugby players who are peak fitness with a huge BMI ? Get a grip man fat and BMI don’t always equate as unhealthy Not at first but carrying too much fat seriously increases the risks of some pretty nasty illnesses & conditions. Professional rugby players are most likely officially overweight, but they're elite athletes & carry more muscle & less fat- comparing the 2 just doesn't work. Lizzo is fab- I love her music & confidence. I haven't heard her promoting her obesity as being acceptable in the same way that Tess Halliday has done though. And from a friend that used to work in a&e the amount of exercise related injuries is incredibly high. Now I’m not saying people shouldn’t keep fit ect but by pin pointing increasing risks on our bodies from the lifestyle we chose is pretty pointless if it does not concern you. It’s a medical statistic that has never fully been proven given all our bodies and lifestyles are different . No more than my fat arse having a heart attack pushing my trolley up the chocolate isle in asda to a guy peddling up a hill on time to many or the alcoholic that tripped and fell to his death ( bit dramatic I know) all of us may well have lived to a ripe old age. And been happy doing so without others telling us how to live "If being obese killed you as quick as anorexia did, you would all see the issue with being to big. | |||
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" If being obese killed you as quick as anorexia did, you would all see the issue with being to big. " The general lack of mental health care in this country and a massive social inequality will as a result of the increase in many of the chronic conditions that have resulted through direct or indirect lifestyle choices will ultimately be the undoing of the NHS. This is why you’re not seeing real concerted effort to tackle these issues. Because it serves a purpose. | |||
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" Oh dear lord let us list the glamourised other methods that could lead to Bad health, early death ect or should we just keep up with the obvious fat one. For example amount of road/ street runners who later in life end up with hip/joint and spinal issues on long term high impact. Not setting up a pitch fork campaign for that act of healthy living are we. Let's face it- life is a terminal illness & we're all gonna die of something. I was an obese 5'7 23st woman & through the luck of having a great GP was given the opportunity of bariatric surgery & I'm now (still a bit overweight) 13 stone, so I know 1st hand how tough everyday life was. People used to tell me I looked great & I used to pretend I was ok with it, but I was uncomfortable, had joint pain, high blood pressure, depression, paranoia & generally living half a life, all the while, raising my child. I now work with teenagers who are considered vulnerable & I'm seeing 1st hand how very impressionable they are to outside influences. I don't insult or put down anyone living with obesity because I know how difficult it is. I simply don't agree with some of the media attention stating how people such as Tess Halliday are living their 'best life', when subsequent interviews have highlighted her terrible relationship with food etc. I think if you're gonna put a glamorous photoshopped pic in a green basque on a magazine cover, Let's also hear about how day-to-day life in a morbidly obese body feels, because if she doesn't have aches, pains, chafing & some of the many other uncomfortable side effects, I'd be shocked!! I think this is actually aspirational, and you're awesome for doing what you've done " Thank you very much x | |||
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" If being obese killed you as quick as anorexia did, you would all see the issue with being to big. The general lack of mental health care in this country and a massive social inequality will as a result of the increase in many of the chronic conditions that have resulted through direct or indirect lifestyle choices will ultimately be the undoing of the NHS. This is why you’re not seeing real concerted effort to tackle these issues. Because it serves a purpose. " The rise in obesity levels can be seen at almost equal rates across most Western countries, and has risen alongside rising affluence. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Well said. I see no such calling out when people take drugs or smoke. Lizzo does neither. " Umm, pretty sure substance misuse isn't exactly applauded? Nor smoking these days? Each to their own of course. But neither of those, nor obesity is healthy? | |||
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"I didn't know until recently that Lizzo is a talented flautist as well as a singer/songwriter. She calls her flute Sasha Flute in honour of Beyoncé. "She is! Classically trained and incredible. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Well said. I see no such calling out when people take drugs or smoke. Lizzo does neither. Umm, pretty sure substance misuse isn't exactly applauded? Nor smoking these days? Each to their own of course. But neither of those, nor obesity is healthy?" You're missing the point. When a talented person has a thread here - Johnny Depp for example. Do people go and on about his drug taking? I've never seen people talk about the health of a celeb or musician saying "oh god I love Prince but call a spade a spade - he did do far too many drugs". (I don't know if he did tbh, it's an example). | |||
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" If being obese killed you as quick as anorexia did, you would all see the issue with being to big. The general lack of mental health care in this country and a massive social inequality will as a result of the increase in many of the chronic conditions that have resulted through direct or indirect lifestyle choices will ultimately be the undoing of the NHS. This is why you’re not seeing real concerted effort to tackle these issues. Because it serves a purpose. The rise in obesity levels can be seen at almost equal rates across most Western countries, and has risen alongside rising affluence." True, but UK is amongst to top of the charts. Also UK has a different health are system to many other western countries. Probably one for the politics forum rather than here though. This is about a singer’s talent and whether she is hot. | |||
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"Wasn't she in grease? That's rizzo an equally fabulous person!
Then I have no idea who lizzo is.
She sounds Australian.
Google is your friend. Although how you can miss her existence god only knows. She's rather popular. "I've had to Google search for info. Absolutely no idea who she is. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Well said. I see no such calling out when people take drugs or smoke. Lizzo does neither. Umm, pretty sure substance misuse isn't exactly applauded? Nor smoking these days? Each to their own of course. But neither of those, nor obesity is healthy? You're missing the point. When a talented person has a thread here - Johnny Depp for example. Do people go and on about his drug taking? I've never seen people talk about the health of a celeb or musician saying "oh god I love Prince but call a spade a spade - he did do far too many drugs". (I don't know if he did tbh, it's an example)." You are quite correct. There is a double standard. Bowie smoked like a chimney and died of lung cancer but that would not be mentioned in a thread about his talent. Many - myself included - are maybe much more superficial than we are to admit. | |||
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"And frankly the whole thing kicked off because of the statement 'she's a bigger girl', which there is absolutely no denying she is? And then some had our say on health/weight related issues. And then that evolved into 'plus sized models/anorexia
None of which have any relation to a person's vocal abilities... But there's also zero detracting from the body size she is? Although apparently nobody is allowed to mention the elephant in the room "But totalling derailing the thread is fine... | |||
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"Along with a ageing population, obesity is one of the major health issues in many nations with huge consequences for personal health and health care costs. Should we really not discuss that openly? Was it 'shaming' to encourage people to stop smoking or drink less ? Start a thread on that instead of slating Lizzo maybe? " Can you please show where I have slated Lizzo, or withdraw that remark ? The OP refers to Lizzo as a 'bigger lady' and this part of the discussion has followed from that. All threads have a life of their own and it is up to the Mods to edit or remove if they stray too far from the OP. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Well said. I see no such calling out when people take drugs or smoke. Lizzo does neither. Umm, pretty sure substance misuse isn't exactly applauded? Nor smoking these days? Each to their own of course. But neither of those, nor obesity is healthy? You're missing the point. When a talented person has a thread here - Johnny Depp for example. Do people go and on about his drug taking? I've never seen people talk about the health of a celeb or musician saying "oh god I love Prince but call a spade a spade - he did do far too many drugs". (I don't know if he did tbh, it's an example). You are quite correct. There is a double standard. Bowie smoked like a chimney and died of lung cancer but that would not be mentioned in a thread about his talent. Many - myself included - are maybe much more superficial than we are to admit. " I didn't know that about Bowie.  | |||
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"And frankly the whole thing kicked off because of the statement 'she's a bigger girl', which there is absolutely no denying she is? And then some had our say on health/weight related issues. And then that evolved into 'plus sized models/anorexia
None of which have any relation to a person's vocal abilities... But there's also zero detracting from the body size she is? Although apparently nobody is allowed to mention the elephant in the room
But totalling derailing the thread is fine..."How on earth is it derailing the thread? OP orginally posted about her body not her singing? | |||
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"Also I hate myself a tiny bit for replying to *that* stuff but I really did want to come on and post about her classical training and how good she is. That level of skill takes dedication and I thought it would be good to acknowledge that. Then I slipped in to my old ways. Darn it. "You have said how good she is as well. I just find her energy infectious too. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. " Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. | |||
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"Along with a ageing population, obesity is one of the major health issues in many nations with huge consequences for personal health and health care costs. Should we really not discuss that openly? Was it 'shaming' to encourage people to stop smoking or drink less ? Start a thread on that instead of slating Lizzo maybe? Can you please show where I have slated Lizzo, or withdraw that remark ? The OP refers to Lizzo as a 'bigger lady' and this part of the discussion has followed from that. All threads have a life of their own and it is up to the Mods to edit or remove if they stray too far from the OP. I can't be arsed..." Would you please withdraw your false accusation against me ? I have not slated Lizzo or anyone else on this thread. | |||
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"And frankly the whole thing kicked off because of the statement 'she's a bigger girl', which there is absolutely no denying she is? And then some had our say on health/weight related issues. And then that evolved into 'plus sized models/anorexia
None of which have any relation to a person's vocal abilities... But there's also zero detracting from the body size she is? Although apparently nobody is allowed to mention the elephant in the room
But totalling derailing the thread is fine...
How on earth is it derailing the thread? OP orginally posted about her body not her singing? "I am allowed an opinion just as you are. It's become a political thread about obesity. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. " Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean... | |||
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"And frankly the whole thing kicked off because of the statement 'she's a bigger girl', which there is absolutely no denying she is? And then some had our say on health/weight related issues. And then that evolved into 'plus sized models/anorexia
None of which have any relation to a person's vocal abilities... But there's also zero detracting from the body size she is? Although apparently nobody is allowed to mention the elephant in the room
But totalling derailing the thread is fine...
How on earth is it derailing the thread? OP orginally posted about her body not her singing?
I am allowed an opinion just as you are. It's become a political thread about obesity. "Scroll back up to the original post... Singing wasn't even mentioned? | |||
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"Along with a ageing population, obesity is one of the major health issues in many nations with huge consequences for personal health and health care costs. Should we really not discuss that openly? Was it 'shaming' to encourage people to stop smoking or drink less ? Yeah we can discuss it openly but maybe a thread that's more suited to it. I'm sure you could start one. " I could but certainly won't! And for avoidance of doubt of course Lizzo is hugely gifted and inspirational as an artist. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Well said. I see no such calling out when people take drugs or smoke. Lizzo does neither. Umm, pretty sure substance misuse isn't exactly applauded? Nor smoking these days? Each to their own of course. But neither of those, nor obesity is healthy? You're missing the point. When a talented person has a thread here - Johnny Depp for example. Do people go and on about his drug taking? I've never seen people talk about the health of a celeb or musician saying "oh god I love Prince but call a spade a spade - he did do far too many drugs". (I don't know if he did tbh, it's an example). You are quite correct. There is a double standard. Bowie smoked like a chimney and died of lung cancer but that would not be mentioned in a thread about his talent. Many - myself included - are maybe much more superficial than we are to admit. I didn't know that about Bowie. "Actually I stand corrected it was Liver cancer. And he gave up smoking apparently. But the point still stands regards his celebrity and talent and that these factors are unlikely to surface in a thread about is talent. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean... "To be fair, some are mean I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ” | |||
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"And frankly the whole thing kicked off because of the statement 'she's a bigger girl', which there is absolutely no denying she is? And then some had our say on health/weight related issues. And then that evolved into 'plus sized models/anorexia
None of which have any relation to a person's vocal abilities... But there's also zero detracting from the body size she is? Although apparently nobody is allowed to mention the elephant in the room
But totalling derailing the thread is fine...
How on earth is it derailing the thread? OP orginally posted about her body not her singing?
I am allowed an opinion just as you are. It's become a political thread about obesity.
Scroll back up to the original post... Singing wasn't even mentioned? "To be fair, a little punctuation would have helped understand the OP’s intent. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Well said. I see no such calling out when people take drugs or smoke. Lizzo does neither. Umm, pretty sure substance misuse isn't exactly applauded? Nor smoking these days? Each to their own of course. But neither of those, nor obesity is healthy? You're missing the point. When a talented person has a thread here - Johnny Depp for example. Do people go and on about his drug taking? I've never seen people talk about the health of a celeb or musician saying "oh god I love Prince but call a spade a spade - he did do far too many drugs". (I don't know if he did tbh, it's an example). You are quite correct. There is a double standard. Bowie smoked like a chimney and died of lung cancer but that would not be mentioned in a thread about his talent. Many - myself included - are maybe much more superficial than we are to admit. I didn't know that about Bowie.
Actually I stand corrected it was Liver cancer. And he gave up smoking apparently. But the point still stands regards his celebrity and talent and that these factors are unlikely to surface in a thread about is talent. "Yay for Bowie giving up regardless | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Well said. I see no such calling out when people take drugs or smoke. Lizzo does neither. Umm, pretty sure substance misuse isn't exactly applauded? Nor smoking these days? Each to their own of course. But neither of those, nor obesity is healthy? You're missing the point. When a talented person has a thread here - Johnny Depp for example. Do people go and on about his drug taking? I've never seen people talk about the health of a celeb or musician saying "oh god I love Prince but call a spade a spade - he did do far too many drugs". (I don't know if he did tbh, it's an example). You are quite correct. There is a double standard. Bowie smoked like a chimney and died of lung cancer but that would not be mentioned in a thread about his talent. Many - myself included - are maybe much more superficial than we are to admit. I didn't know that about Bowie.
Actually I stand corrected it was Liver cancer. And he gave up smoking apparently. But the point still stands regards his celebrity and talent and that these factors are unlikely to surface in a thread about is talent. "OP never mentioned her talent... He mentioned her size.. | |||
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"And frankly the whole thing kicked off because of the statement 'she's a bigger girl', which there is absolutely no denying she is? And then some had our say on health/weight related issues. And then that evolved into 'plus sized models/anorexia
None of which have any relation to a person's vocal abilities... But there's also zero detracting from the body size she is? Although apparently nobody is allowed to mention the elephant in the room
But totalling derailing the thread is fine...
How on earth is it derailing the thread? OP orginally posted about her body not her singing? "It’s not. I read the title and it was about her body so I’m not sure how it’s derailing  | |||
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"And frankly the whole thing kicked off because of the statement 'she's a bigger girl', which there is absolutely no denying she is? And then some had our say on health/weight related issues. And then that evolved into 'plus sized models/anorexia
None of which have any relation to a person's vocal abilities... But there's also zero detracting from the body size she is? Although apparently nobody is allowed to mention the elephant in the room
But totalling derailing the thread is fine...
How on earth is it derailing the thread? OP orginally posted about her body not her singing?
It’s not. I read the title and it was about her body so I’m not sure how it’s derailing "The title is just her stage name? Or am I missing something? | |||
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"And frankly the whole thing kicked off because of the statement 'she's a bigger girl', which there is absolutely no denying she is? And then some had our say on health/weight related issues. And then that evolved into 'plus sized models/anorexia
None of which have any relation to a person's vocal abilities... But there's also zero detracting from the body size she is? Although apparently nobody is allowed to mention the elephant in the room
But totalling derailing the thread is fine...
How on earth is it derailing the thread? OP orginally posted about her body not her singing?
I am allowed an opinion just as you are. It's become a political thread about obesity.
Scroll back up to the original post... Singing wasn't even mentioned?
To be fair, a little punctuation would have helped understand the OP’s intent. "Oh God...you'll start a dyslexia shaming tirade if you're not careful | |||
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"And frankly the whole thing kicked off because of the statement 'she's a bigger girl', which there is absolutely no denying she is? And then some had our say on health/weight related issues. And then that evolved into 'plus sized models/anorexia
None of which have any relation to a person's vocal abilities... But there's also zero detracting from the body size she is? Although apparently nobody is allowed to mention the elephant in the room
But totalling derailing the thread is fine...
How on earth is it derailing the thread? OP orginally posted about her body not her singing?
It’s not. I read the title and it was about her body so I’m not sure how it’s derailing
The title is just her stage name? Or am I missing something? "Haven’t got a clue never heard of her. Just saw a thread about someone’s body type. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”"I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at. | |||
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"Wow dose anyone else admire lizzo i personaly think she is stunning she hot and to be a bigger girl and wearing what she dose with confidence is amazing "Yes I admire Lizzo. Anyone else? | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at. " | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at. "That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults. | |||
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Going back to the original post I admire her confidence. I love her tunes soooo good to dance to Juice and Boys being my favourite and don't get me started on her botty hot, hot, hot. | |||
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"Wow dose anyone else admire lizzo i personaly think she is stunning she hot and to be a bigger girl and wearing what she dose with confidence is amazing
Yes I admire Lizzo. Anyone else? "I admire her talent, her songs, her attitude and her smile | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults. "No one has said she might be healthy. People have assumed she isn't. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at. "I agree. She might not want to lose weight either ! Good on her whatever she wants to be. People should just worry about their own health and weight. I’m overweight I don’t want to be. I’m healthier when I’m slimmer. I’m doing me. Let people do them | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults. "But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults. "I doubt your intentions. You have shown so many times on the forum that you take pleasure in critiquing women. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
I doubt your intentions. You have shown so many times on the forum that you take pleasure in critiquing women. "Doubt away, my feelings here would be the same no matter the gender. However men aren’t as accepted into the body positivity movement as women. But your doubt is understood | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. But at the same time should it be glamourised? If you got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes next week due to your weight (which I could easily too). Would you be so cool about the fact still, or would you think meh, this ain't so great? Oh dear lord let us list the glamourised other methods that could lead to Bad health, early death ect or should we just keep up with the obvious fat one. For example amount of road/ street runners who later in life end up with hip/joint and spinal issues on long term high impact. Not setting up a pitch fork campaign for that act of healthy living are we. Let's face it- life is a terminal illness & we're all gonna die of something. I was an obese 5'7 23st woman & through the luck of having a great GP was given the opportunity of bariatric surgery & I'm now (still a bit overweight) 13 stone, so I know 1st hand how tough everyday life was. People used to tell me I looked great & I used to pretend I was ok with it, but I was uncomfortable, had joint pain, high blood pressure, depression, paranoia & generally living half a life, all the while, raising my child. I now work with teenagers who are considered vulnerable & I'm seeing 1st hand how very impressionable they are to outside influences. I don't insult or put down anyone living with obesity because I know how difficult it is. I simply don't agree with some of the media attention stating how people such as Tess Halliday are living their 'best life', when subsequent interviews have highlighted her terrible relationship with food etc. I think if you're gonna put a glamorous photoshopped pic in a green basque on a magazine cover, Let's also hear about how day-to-day life in a morbidly obese body feels, because if she doesn't have aches, pains, chafing & some of the many other uncomfortable side effects, I'd be shocked!! " Chafing, oh yeah I had that. But like you I have been lucky enough to have bariatric surgery and it's only 6 stone down that I'm realising how my weight affected my body. I ran (50km+ a week), weight/strength trained, snowboarded in the winter and ran obstacle course races in the summer. Had cholesterol levels, blood sugar, blood pressure and a resting heart rate that had doctor's taking tests two or three times as they couldn't believe my 21+ stone body would be in such good shape. Last year I was diagnosed with ME/CFS. My surgery couldn't have come at a better time as I've had to cut down on most if not all of my physical activity. After 6 months of no running or gym I went on a snowboarding trip that had been delayed by two years, I was astounded at how much easier it was. Now I had a number of underlying health issues that made losing weight nigh on impossible (I got down to 19stone at one point by restricting to 800 cal, high protein low carb and literally giving myself an eating disorder by obsessing over every single thing that went in my mouth). Anyway. All that was to say that while actually being morbidly obeese, but astounding doctors with how healthy I was... I wasn't aware of how much it was impacting me until I'd lost the weight! | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread. "I don’t even care about the thread. I’d like to see a complete change within education on these kinda things. That’s why I say I don’t care about lizzo. Your not gonna stop the obesity problem by shaming obese people. You stop is at the door with educating kids before it gets that far | |||
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"I think people who are fat are well aware they are fat and that being overweight comes with risks. You've got to have your head buried deep in the sand to not realise that, and most fat people I know or have seen in the media have no problem admitting the fact they aren't the healthiest. I'm tired of people pretending they care about the health risks of someone being fat. You really couldn't give two shits, you (general you) are just a cunt who wants a chance to kick someone who is already kicked enough simply for existing in a fat body. It's not about loving that you are fat and celebrating that, it is about accepting and being kind to yourself. It's about remembering fat people are humans who are no different than others just because they are fat. It's about not labelling all fat people in the same way, lazy, bad, unworthy and ugly. It's a sad world when fat people are met with hate and people who are anorexic are met with sympathy and love. I think there's much more problematic shit in the world than being fat, yet you (general you) couldn't care less. I guess people will always be assholes. " Where is the fab button for this? | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread.
I don’t even care about the thread. I’d like to see a complete change within education on these kinda things. That’s why I say I don’t care about lizzo. Your not gonna stop the obesity problem by shaming obese people. You stop is at the door with educating kids before it gets that far "*Educating* kids and supporting body confidence as part of understanding how to be healthy, just don’t shame them - that way problems lie because obesity is not the only health problem and sometimes people will be obese and othering them till they feel untold shame is just plain cruel and equally unhealthy. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread.
I don’t even care about the thread. I’d like to see a complete change within education on these kinda things. That’s why I say I don’t care about lizzo. Your not gonna stop the obesity problem by shaming obese people. You stop is at the door with educating kids before it gets that far
*Educating* kids and supporting body confidence as part of understanding how to be healthy, just don’t shame them - that way problems lie because obesity is not the only health problem and sometimes people will be obese and othering them till they feel untold shame is just plain cruel and equally unhealthy."Exactly. I just see a lot more of “be as obese as you want, we don’t know if it’s unhealthy, just love yourself ” - however I might be suffering my own confirmation bias there
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread.
I don’t even care about the thread. I’d like to see a complete change within education on these kinda things. That’s why I say I don’t care about lizzo. Your not gonna stop the obesity problem by shaming obese people. You stop is at the door with educating kids before it gets that far
*Educating* kids and supporting body confidence as part of understanding how to be healthy, just don’t shame them - that way problems lie because obesity is not the only health problem and sometimes people will be obese and othering them till they feel untold shame is just plain cruel and equally unhealthy.
Exactly. I just see a lot more of “be as obese as you want, we don’t know if it’s unhealthy, just love yourself ” - however I might be suffering my own confirmation bias there
Keep the love yourself. Remove the first part. Then bring in proper education on nutrition and exercise. "Not often I agree with you but I do on this | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread.
I don’t even care about the thread. I’d like to see a complete change within education on these kinda things. That’s why I say I don’t care about lizzo. Your not gonna stop the obesity problem by shaming obese people. You stop is at the door with educating kids before it gets that far
*Educating* kids and supporting body confidence as part of understanding how to be healthy, just don’t shame them - that way problems lie because obesity is not the only health problem and sometimes people will be obese and othering them till they feel untold shame is just plain cruel and equally unhealthy.
Exactly. I just see a lot more of “be as obese as you want, we don’t know if it’s unhealthy, just love yourself ” - however I might be suffering my own confirmation bias there
Keep the love yourself. Remove the first part. Then bring in proper education on nutrition and exercise. "But recognise nutrition and exercise won’t work for everyone, and that’s okay - truly. Obesity isn’t the end of the world. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread.
I don’t even care about the thread. I’d like to see a complete change within education on these kinda things. That’s why I say I don’t care about lizzo. Your not gonna stop the obesity problem by shaming obese people. You stop is at the door with educating kids before it gets that far
*Educating* kids and supporting body confidence as part of understanding how to be healthy, just don’t shame them - that way problems lie because obesity is not the only health problem and sometimes people will be obese and othering them till they feel untold shame is just plain cruel and equally unhealthy.
Exactly. I just see a lot more of “be as obese as you want, we don’t know if it’s unhealthy, just love yourself ” - however I might be suffering my own confirmation bias there
Keep the love yourself. Remove the first part. Then bring in proper education on nutrition and exercise.
But recognise nutrition and exercise won’t work for everyone, and that’s okay - truly. Obesity isn’t the end of the world."I guess we just have to agree to disagree there. | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread.
I don’t even care about the thread. I’d like to see a complete change within education on these kinda things. That’s why I say I don’t care about lizzo. Your not gonna stop the obesity problem by shaming obese people. You stop is at the door with educating kids before it gets that far
*Educating* kids and supporting body confidence as part of understanding how to be healthy, just don’t shame them - that way problems lie because obesity is not the only health problem and sometimes people will be obese and othering them till they feel untold shame is just plain cruel and equally unhealthy.
Exactly. I just see a lot more of “be as obese as you want, we don’t know if it’s unhealthy, just love yourself ” - however I might be suffering my own confirmation bias there
Keep the love yourself. Remove the first part. Then bring in proper education on nutrition and exercise.
But recognise nutrition and exercise won’t work for everyone, and that’s okay - truly. Obesity isn’t the end of the world.
I guess we just have to agree to disagree there. "Fair enough | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread.
I don’t even care about the thread. I’d like to see a complete change within education on these kinda things. That’s why I say I don’t care about lizzo. Your not gonna stop the obesity problem by shaming obese people. You stop is at the door with educating kids before it gets that far
*Educating* kids and supporting body confidence as part of understanding how to be healthy, just don’t shame them - that way problems lie because obesity is not the only health problem and sometimes people will be obese and othering them till they feel untold shame is just plain cruel and equally unhealthy.
Exactly. I just see a lot more of “be as obese as you want, we don’t know if it’s unhealthy, just love yourself ” - however I might be suffering my own confirmation bias there
Keep the love yourself. Remove the first part. Then bring in proper education on nutrition and exercise.
But recognise nutrition and exercise won’t work for everyone, and that’s okay - truly. Obesity isn’t the end of the world.
I guess we just have to agree to disagree there.
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Based on science. We know excess body fat is bad. Meh! Nobody cares! Those of us who state she's overweight are just mean...
To be fair, some are mean
I don’t give a shit about lizzo. I give a shit about the jesssge it portrays to an increasingly fatter and fatter population. Especially naive young kids that are being taught “be as obese as you want, it doesn’t mean your unhealthy, just love yourself ”
I believe someone is more likely to be able to lose weight/get healthier if they’re body positive and loving themselves in the first place than if they’re bombarded with messages from people *worried* about them telling them how wrong they are to be accepting of themselves as this can only mean promoting obesity. I feel that’s actually more likely to discourage and have the opposite effect. I think start with body confidence and help build confidence in healthy steps forward from the weight people are at.
That’s why in an earlier comment I made the point that it’s a thin line to tread between promoting a healthy lifestyle and just abusing someone
There’s full grown adults in this thread entertaining the idea that lizzo might be healthy and that being that obese isn’t bad. How are naive kids meant to stand a chance when that kinda flawed thinking is so common in adults.
But you always appear to insist that body positivity can *only* be promoting obesity. You should also look at how body shaming can really impact mental health and reflect on how posts that are sometimes abrasive could be hurtful and damaging to others, but no it’s only obesity we should stamp out on every thread.
I don’t even care about the thread. I’d like to see a complete change within education on these kinda things. That’s why I say I don’t care about lizzo. Your not gonna stop the obesity problem by shaming obese people. You stop is at the door with educating kids before it gets that far
*Educating* kids and supporting body confidence as part of understanding how to be healthy, just don’t shame them - that way problems lie because obesity is not the only health problem and sometimes people will be obese and othering them till they feel untold shame is just plain cruel and equally unhealthy.
Exactly. I just see a lot more of “be as obese as you want, we don’t know if it’s unhealthy, just love yourself ” - however I might be suffering my own confirmation bias there
Keep the love yourself. Remove the first part. Then bring in proper education on nutrition and exercise.
But recognise nutrition and exercise won’t work for everyone, and that’s okay - truly. Obesity isn’t the end of the world.
I guess we just have to agree to disagree there.
Fair enough
There are so many worse things to be than fat "Couldn’t agree more. And since we’re looking at musicians, I wish some of the hatred towards lizzo was equally dished out to the rappers promoting gun and gang violence, killing people for their jewellery, and acting like getting addicted to prescription pain pills is a hobby. It’s all disgusting what we’re feeding childrens minds. And we wonder why we’re having to issues with the youth. When drugs and knives are held in higher regard than an education is anyone surprised. When their self worth is whittled down to how many likes they get on a TikTok video  | |||
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"'No one should look at lizzo and say that’s a body type to be admired or celebrated. And that doesn’t mean I’m saying be nasty to her or call her bad names. Gotta call a spade a spade'. I've never once responded or engaged within a chat forum but on this occasion I felt obliged by your back handed comment. Are you actually suggesting Lizzo should hold her head in shame, No one should admire or celebrate her physicality? Based on what exactly? Your preference? Your opinion? I'm a big curvacious black woman, a similar physique to Lizzo infact our asses are identical. I celebrate my curves and my confidence, loving the fullness of who I am. Who are you to tell people about their health based on their body type? You do realise fitness and health is not immediately relative to how a person looks. You should be honest and say you are uncomfortable because she is big. You don't actually care about her health or well being do you? You simply don't find her or fat people 'attractive' or of value to you. Your statement gives more of an indication of your personality and character which quite frankly I find unattractive. Had someone started a conversation about Beyonce would you have even mentioned her health? Likewise, just calling a spade a spade. Well said. I see no such calling out when people take drugs or smoke. Lizzo does neither. Umm, pretty sure substance misuse isn't exactly applauded? Nor smoking these days? Each to their own of course. But neither of those, nor obesity is healthy?" Who stated obesity is healthy? The reference to cigarettes and alcohol is not in context to what was stated nor to the underlying fatshaming tone of the comment I was responding to. I'm a fat beautiful woman and I love the skin and curves I'm in and I won't be hiding away anytime soon or allow others to fat shame me into sitting out of living until I fit a societal narrative of bodily acceptance. You do you and let others do themselves. | |||
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