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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Does anyone do this? If so have you seen a difference in the quality of your hair?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Anyone who makes a fecal remark will get a very strong eye roll; you have been warned.

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

"Anyone who makes a fecal remark will get a very strong eye roll; you have been warned. "

Ahhhhh…..

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

What language do we speaketh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tried it but my hair isn't keen as it's too fine.

Pxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What language do we speaketh?"

Hair things Byron

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Tried it but my hair isn't keen as it's too fine.

Pxx"

How long did you try for?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I had to Google it.

I have a friend who does this, I haven't been tempted to try because her hair always looks really dull

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP you are going to have to explain this to me sorry, as I haven't got a clue

NBVN x

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"OP you are going to have to explain this to me sorry, as I haven't got a clue

NBVN x"

It's just using conditioner no shampoo.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I've got fine wavy hair, and it doesn't work well for me. Low poo works better for me, although I can't do without shampoo entirely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Heard of it but never tried it. Think some Black women do it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone who makes a fecal remark will get a very strong eye roll; you have been warned. "

I think you meant faecal?

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By *hisisntpofMan
over a year ago

bristol

"OP you are going to have to explain this to me sorry, as I haven't got a clue

NBVN x"

Sounds like your washing your hair befor taking a dump

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Heard of it but never tried it. Think some Black women do it?"

Yeah, more common among type 3 and 4 hair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Heard of it but never tried it. Think some Black women do it?"

I fancy growing my hair out again so why not try it

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"What language do we speaketh?

Hair things Byron"

I'm out then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tried it but my hair isn't keen as it's too fine.

Pxx

How long did you try for? "

Only a couple of times. It's not something I could do for anything length of time as my hair hair is too fine and wavy. Co washing weighs it down. Have you tried sulphate free shampoo?

You need Inaswingdress really, she's great at this stuff.

Pxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP you are going to have to explain this to me sorry, as I haven't got a clue

NBVN x

It's just using conditioner no shampoo."

Ah thank you

No I haven't tried that, I think my hair would feel super greasy.

NBVN x

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By *ildmanYorksMan
over a year ago

Doncaster & Bembridge

So we have all been warned!

Must.......

Resist.........

Temptation.........

Aaarrrggghhhh!

OK, I give in...

Sounds like a shit idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

I really wanted to try this, and the curly girl method... But I just cba with the process

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

I’ve just googled it and might give it a try I have thick curly hair so it’s worth a try ..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Tried it but my hair isn't keen as it's too fine.

Pxx

How long did you try for?

Only a couple of times. It's not something I could do for anything length of time as my hair hair is too fine and wavy. Co washing weighs it down. Have you tried sulphate free shampoo?

You need Inaswingdress really, she's great at this stuff.

Pxx"

Yeah I was only allowed to use SLS free after getting a keratin treatment a few years ago. It was alright but it made my dry scalp flare up

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"OP you are going to have to explain this to me sorry, as I haven't got a clue

NBVN x

It's just using conditioner no shampoo.

Ah thank you

No I haven't tried that, I think my hair would feel super greasy.

NBVN x"

I think mine would too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I really wanted to try this, and the curly girl method... But I just cba with the process "

Yeah seems like it takes a while to get over the awkward greasy phase

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Did for a while.

I now do it but not so strictly.

I used to have a bit of an itchy flaky scalp but don't have it anymore.

I shampoo, once a month, cleanse 2 weeks later, wash my hair with conditioner every 3 to 4 days. My hair's never been better.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

The sulfates in shampoo can be too drying for some hair, and that kind of washing might only be needed occasionally.

I have thick frizzy hair, but it's also fine. Fine hair doesn't play well with it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

Just meant to make your hair and scalp healthier and softer. Shampoo washes away oils, which dries out your ends and can make your scalp overcompensate with oil, ergo grease.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

The sulfates in shampoo can be too drying for some hair, and that kind of washing might only be needed occasionally.

I have thick frizzy hair, but it's also fine. Fine hair doesn't play well with it."

Interesting, my scalp can feel quite dry but maybe it's not long enough to only use conditioner without it feeling greasy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tried using the shampoo bar but though it worked well in the beginning after a few washes it felt heavy and lank. But the bar works great on my skin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

Just meant to make your hair and scalp healthier and softer. Shampoo washes away oils, which dries out your ends and can make your scalp overcompensate with oil, ergo grease."

Oh right, I imagine going to just conditioner will take a while for your scalp to get used to

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

I do with my beard. Definitely improved things.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's worth experimenting with less shampoo (every other wash), or low poo, or specialist cowash products, I think.

(I've been experimenting and find myself alternating between shampoo and low poo)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

Just meant to make your hair and scalp healthier and softer. Shampoo washes away oils, which dries out your ends and can make your scalp overcompensate with oil, ergo grease.

Oh right, I imagine going to just conditioner will take a while for your scalp to get used to"

From what I've heard there's definitely an adjustment period. I'd love to try this but I don't have a long stretch of time ahead of me where I can get away with having greasy hair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

The sulfates in shampoo can be too drying for some hair, and that kind of washing might only be needed occasionally.

I have thick frizzy hair, but it's also fine. Fine hair doesn't play well with it."

I have thick, frizzy, coarse hair and I've tried the curly girl method. Cannot be arsed with it all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's worth experimenting with less shampoo (every other wash), or low poo, or specialist cowash products, I think.

(I've been experimenting and find myself alternating between shampoo and low poo) "

When growing it, I don’t wash my hair often (once a week/ every two weeks) and use conditioner in between and I find it’s better. But never tried no shampoo.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

The sulfates in shampoo can be too drying for some hair, and that kind of washing might only be needed occasionally.

I have thick frizzy hair, but it's also fine. Fine hair doesn't play well with it.

I have thick, frizzy, coarse hair and I've tried the curly girl method. Cannot be arsed with it all!"

I do heavily modified CGM and enjoy the results. Definitely understand not being bothered

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's worth experimenting with less shampoo (every other wash), or low poo, or specialist cowash products, I think.

(I've been experimenting and find myself alternating between shampoo and low poo)

When growing it, I don’t wash my hair often (once a week/ every two weeks) and use conditioner in between and I find it’s better. But never tried no shampoo. "

Interesting... I might brave it

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It's worth experimenting with less shampoo (every other wash), or low poo, or specialist cowash products, I think.

(I've been experimenting and find myself alternating between shampoo and low poo)

When growing it, I don’t wash my hair often (once a week/ every two weeks) and use conditioner in between and I find it’s better. But never tried no shampoo. "

I'd guess you're a type 4 of some sort?

I need to wash every other day (type 2) or I itch horribly. I think the tighter the curl pattern, the less you need to wash or use shampoo or similar (ditto thicker hair).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone do this? If so have you seen a difference in the quality of your hair?"

I have read into this for a long time. Many positive and negative theories. During first lockdown in 2020 after giving myself a "covid" haircut I decided it was a perfect time to test this.

I can honestly say I have not washed my hair with shampoo in over 2yrs now. After a short period of "greasiness" I have stopped losing handfuls of hair in the shower and stopped my receding hairline. I am still greying at a rate quicker than rising sea levels but 100% no poo is beneficial. For me at least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

The sulfates in shampoo can be too drying for some hair, and that kind of washing might only be needed occasionally.

I have thick frizzy hair, but it's also fine. Fine hair doesn't play well with it.

I have thick, frizzy, coarse hair and I've tried the curly girl method. Cannot be arsed with it all!

I do heavily modified CGM and enjoy the results. Definitely understand not being bothered"

On the rare occasion my hair is proper wavy and not frizzy its fabulous. But as I don't go anywhere or do anything it seems a bit of faff. I cannot go without shampooing every two days - I start getting itchy and twitchy.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

My partner tried it. Personally I didn't notice any improvement in his hair. I don't think he did either as he's back to using head and shoulders

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

The sulfates in shampoo can be too drying for some hair, and that kind of washing might only be needed occasionally.

I have thick frizzy hair, but it's also fine. Fine hair doesn't play well with it."

I have fucking nightmare hair

It's super thick, ringlets in places, wavy in others, frizz everywhere if I let it air-dry, and absolutely explodes if I dare take a brush to it. Around day 3 it starts to calm down, so I get like a day of it being nice before I have to wash it again

my pic from March 7th is probably the closest representation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone do this? If so have you seen a difference in the quality of your hair?

I have read into this for a long time. Many positive and negative theories. During first lockdown in 2020 after giving myself a "covid" haircut I decided it was a perfect time to test this.

Wow - that's quite extraordinary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's worth experimenting with less shampoo (every other wash), or low poo, or specialist cowash products, I think.

(I've been experimenting and find myself alternating between shampoo and low poo)

When growing it, I don’t wash my hair often (once a week/ every two weeks) and use conditioner in between and I find it’s better. But never tried no shampoo.

I'd guess you're a type 4 of some sort?

I need to wash every other day (type 2) or I itch horribly. I think the tighter the curl pattern, the less you need to wash or use shampoo or similar (ditto thicker hair). "

Yes!

Obviously when I have my hair in protective styles I can and tend to go longer between washes. But generally I can never go more than two weeks. But easily go a week. This is interesting

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So after googling it, how does it help? I have very thick, frizzy hair so if it helps with that, I might give it a go

The sulfates in shampoo can be too drying for some hair, and that kind of washing might only be needed occasionally.

I have thick frizzy hair, but it's also fine. Fine hair doesn't play well with it.

I have fucking nightmare hair

my pic from March 7th is probably the closest representation. "

I have mostly waves, some ringlets. Your hair texture looks similar to mine. It's why I enjoy modified CGM when I'm styling my hair - because it simulates a style rather than just looking electrocuted. (Do I have everything from loose waves to large ringlets? Yup. Still better than electrocution)

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It's worth experimenting with less shampoo (every other wash), or low poo, or specialist cowash products, I think.

(I've been experimenting and find myself alternating between shampoo and low poo)

When growing it, I don’t wash my hair often (once a week/ every two weeks) and use conditioner in between and I find it’s better. But never tried no shampoo.

I'd guess you're a type 4 of some sort?

I need to wash every other day (type 2) or I itch horribly. I think the tighter the curl pattern, the less you need to wash or use shampoo or similar (ditto thicker hair).

Yes!

Obviously when I have my hair in protective styles I can and tend to go longer between washes. But generally I can never go more than two weeks. But easily go a week. This is interesting"

For me three days is gross and more is nightmare fuel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone do this? If so have you seen a difference in the quality of your hair?

I have read into this for a long time. Many positive and negative theories. During first lockdown in 2020 after giving myself a "covid" haircut I decided it was a perfect time to test this.

Wow - that's quite extraordinary. "

If you look at the research its not really. Just takes courage to Try. Research as far as I can find says that our hair creates natural oil to clean itself. Modern shampoo strips our hair of its natural oils. Replacing it with synthetic oils in shampoo. The greasy stage is our hairs natural reaction to trying to clean itself. It's not pretty but once you get past this stage. If you can? I think the benefits are incredible.

Again my opinion and experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will ruin my wig

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel a

cumming

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

"Anyone who makes a fecal remark will get a very strong eye roll; you have been warned. "

Really? That's poo.

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

It really is a trial and error process and some can make it worse, others better. I follow the curly girl method and it has taken a while to find products that actually work. You need to stick with products that are devoid of certain chemicals and then you need to find the ones that work for your hair type.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

The trick for me is avoid silicone in conditioner and limiting how often I use shampoo + using a gentle shampoo (lo-poo it’s called)

That’s for cutie hair though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m currently using Olaplex. I have fine, frizzy hair, which is both dry and greasy.

It’s expensive but you use such a tiny amount, and I’ve had a massive improvement in the few weeks I’ve been using it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It really is a trial and error process and some can make it worse, others better. I follow the curly girl method and it has taken a while to find products that actually work. You need to stick with products that are devoid of certain chemicals and then you need to find the ones that work for your hair type.

Yes.

As a wavy, I've had to learn to not listen so much to curlies. It doesn't work so well

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

Yes.

As a wavy, I've had to learn to not listen so much to curlies. It doesn't work so well

Aye, I'm actually a corkscrew curly and a lot of it doesn't work for me either, high protein products (which are lorded as a holy grail) are my worst nightmare because mine is protein overloaded and frizzy as fuck.

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By *ylonattireTV/TS
over a year ago

BUXTON

No idea whats going on

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yes.

As a wavy, I've had to learn to not listen so much to curlies. It doesn't work so well

My concerns are protein (need more) and clarifying without over drying my ends. I have inconsistent curl pattern but that's a secondary issue

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

"OP you are going to have to explain this to me sorry, as I haven't got a clue

NBVN x

It's just using conditioner no shampoo."

Oh! Poo is short for shampoo! So this is putting conditioner in your hair without shampooing it first.

I'm glad we've got that sorted out.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

I haven’t tried it without shampoo. I use shampoo on top of the head and conditioner on the rest.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

I know someone who only uses conditioner as apparently helps with thinning hair though I have no idea whether that is true or not.

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By *lynJMan
over a year ago

Morden

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By *lynJMan
over a year ago

Morden

"OP you are going to have to explain this to me sorry, as I haven't got a clue

NBVN x

It's just using conditioner no shampoo."

If there's no poo, Is it just a sham?

I'll get my coat.

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By *iss.ddWoman
over a year ago

Leeds + Newcastle

I dabble with co washing every now and then along with the Curly girl method but overall it's just not for me

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

The build up of silicone in your hair would make it feel awful after a few times of using conditioner only.

If you used a non silicone version your hair would be greasy straw!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes.

As a wavy, I've had to learn to not listen so much to curlies. It doesn't work so well

I'm a wavy. I have no idea what to do so it's just a frizzy bush most of the time or I pin it straight.

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By *agic.MMan
over a year ago

Orpington

My great grandma never used shampoo in her entire life. She washed her hair once per week using apple vinegar...she had the most amazing, healthy, glowing hair that I have ever seen...and she kept that amazing hair until the day she died ...she was 93

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The build up of silicone in your hair would make it feel awful after a few times of using conditioner only.

If you used a non silicone version your hair would be greasy straw! "

Most low or no poo methods recommend eliminating silicone

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yes.

As a wavy, I've had to learn to not listen so much to curlies. It doesn't work so well

I'm a wavy. I have no idea what to do so it's just a frizzy bush most of the time or I pin it straight. "

As a super quick way to think about it

- take curly girl method and adapt. You may need to wash more, with more drying products. You probably need more lightweight products and less treatment, particularly less moisture. Be more gentle in application (so clap out crunch rather than scrunch out crunch, for example). When using gel or mousse, the stronger the hold, the better.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yes.

As a wavy, I've had to learn to not listen so much to curlies. It doesn't work so well

I'm a wavy. I have no idea what to do so it's just a frizzy bush most of the time or I pin it straight.

As a super quick way to think about it

I understand all these words but not in that order

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yes.

As a wavy, I've had to learn to not listen so much to curlies. It doesn't work so well

I'm a wavy. I have no idea what to do so it's just a frizzy bush most of the time or I pin it straight.

As a super quick way to think about it

I understand all these words but not in that order

Sorry. I study this shit and get to know it way too well

I'm assuming reasonable knowledge of CGM in that post.

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

Yes.

As a wavy, I've had to learn to not listen so much to curlies. It doesn't work so well

My concerns are protein (need more) and clarifying without over drying my ends. I have inconsistent curl pattern but that's a secondary issue"

Anything with a coconut or avocado oil base is going to be your friend. General rule of thumb I go by is the higher the fat content the more protein you'll get. I have the same issue with the dry ends sadly so can't help massively

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes.

As a wavy, I've had to learn to not listen so much to curlies. It doesn't work so well

I'm a wavy. I have no idea what to do so it's just a frizzy bush most of the time or I pin it straight.

As a super quick way to think about it

I understand all these words but not in that order

Sorry. I study this shit and get to know it way too well

I'm assuming reasonable knowledge of CGM in that post."

I don't think I have reasonable knowledge. Eek.

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