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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Reports that supermarket workers are turning a blind eye to some shoplifting and especially if it's items like baby yoghurts. Some fear that this may cost them their jobs by turning a blind eye....

What's going on here guys.. justified or not..

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

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By *iltopbearMan
over a year ago

Norfolk

You've done this thread already OP, re Stealing to Eat.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having worked as a Store Detective and Loss Prevention officer, shop staff are paid peanuts, on zero hour contracts..........

The majority of shoplifters are supporting addiction and as a result are unpredictable.

Why would they put themselves at risk?

Even some store security are forbidden from using force or detaining offenders, they are told to act as a deterrent.

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Llanelli


"It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

"

You saying I can eat out for free at the moment?

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

You saying I can eat out for free at the moment? "

The police get notified and description given, including car reg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

You saying I can eat out for free at the moment?

The police get notified and description given, including car reg "

What do they vet charged with?

Theft or robbery? If there was implied threat of violence it should be robbery but police often go for the easiest to prove offence.

Also if it's a chain and tbey get the police to inform them tbey are now barred from all venues, it's burgalary if they do it in another venue owned by the same chain

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

You saying I can eat out for free at the moment?

The police get notified and description given, including car reg

What do they vet charged with?

Theft or robbery? If there was implied threat of violence it should be robbery but police often go for the easiest to prove offence.

Also if it's a chain and tbey get the police to inform them tbey are now barred from all venues, it's burgalary if they do it in another venue owned by the same chain "

I really don't know. I know initially they are given a time frame to come back in to pay the outstanding balance. No idea what happens after that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

You saying I can eat out for free at the moment?

The police get notified and description given, including car reg

What do they vet charged with?

Theft or robbery? If there was implied threat of violence it should be robbery but police often go for the easiest to prove offence.

Also if it's a chain and tbey get the police to inform them tbey are now barred from all venues, it's burgalary if they do it in another venue owned by the same chain

I really don't know. I know initially they are given a time frame to come back in to pay the outstanding balance. No idea what happens after that "

They might be dealing with it as a civil recovery then, like petrol station drive offs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Reports that supermarket workers are turning a blind eye to some shoplifting and especially if it's items like baby yoghurts. Some fear that this may cost them their jobs by turning a blind eye....

What's going on here guys.. justified or not..

"

Maybe because certain items may think they are stealing to eat. I'm not saying stealing is right but some people are desperate especially as this shit show shows no signs of improving.

Pxx

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Llanelli


"It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

You saying I can eat out for free at the moment?

The police get notified and description given, including car reg "

I'll cancel my booking

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

You saying I can eat out for free at the moment?

The police get notified and description given, including car reg

I'll cancel my booking "

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

I saw two likely fellows try to pay for a curry with a stolen credit card. The manager told them the card was rejected. They legged it. He looked at us and said no problem as he’d be compensated. Next minute a copper comes in and asks why he’d seen two men dash from the restaurant. The manager told him what happened and then the policeman told a waiting motorcycle cop about it.

Cue a big chase around town resulting in the two guys crashing into a lamppost and one being killed.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Reports that supermarket workers are turning a blind eye to some shoplifting and especially if it's items like baby yoghurts. Some fear that this may cost them their jobs by turning a blind eye....

What's going on here guys.. justified or not..

"

Absolutely not justified. It’s stealing. No two ways about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would too im not security

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"I saw two likely fellows try to pay for a curry with a stolen credit card. The manager told them the card was rejected. They legged it. He looked at us and said no problem as he’d be compensated. Next minute a copper comes in and asks why he’d seen two men dash from the restaurant. The manager told him what happened and then the policeman told a waiting motorcycle cop about it.

Cue a big chase around town resulting in the two guys crashing into a lamppost and one being killed."

There's a lesson there.

Don't nick people's credit cards and try and use them fraudulently.

Did the resulting outcome fit the crime?

No. But that's not the fault of the police.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

A

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I saw someone stealing baby food, nappies or similar, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Crime will soon be a way of life for a huge % of the population once desperation kicks in swan meat will be all the rage

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

Our local shop is a small run family business and has been around since I was young .Recently a young girl was caught stealing nappies and formula milk he payed for them himself out of his own pocket and put her in touch with a local charity .

She wasn’t a junkie or anything she was just someone that was extremely desperate and if I’m honest about it if I needed to feed my children I would probably do the same thing .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I saw someone stealing baby food, nappies or similar, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

"

You would if it was your shop that you worked all hours to keep going.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When people are having to put 1l£150 per week in the lecci meter just to have clean clothes and run the teles il not be bothered one bit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I saw two likely fellows try to pay for a curry with a stolen credit card. The manager told them the card was rejected. They legged it. He looked at us and said no problem as he’d be compensated. Next minute a copper comes in and asks why he’d seen two men dash from the restaurant. The manager told him what happened and then the policeman told a waiting motorcycle cop about it.

Cue a big chase around town resulting in the two guys crashing into a lamppost and one being killed."

Cool story bro.

It doesn't tell you the cards stolen, only that it's declined or declined and keep the card.

No one knows if its a stolen card, an abused card or just reached it's limit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I saw someone stealing baby food, nappies or similar, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

You would if it was your shop that you worked all hours to keep going."

Granted, then it would be a different story. But I interpreted the OP as relating to employees and the general public turning a blind eye.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

If it’s family run business I’m honest but bigger outlets if they miss scanning an untagged item on my trolley I just carry on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I saw someone stealing baby food, nappies or similar, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

You would if it was your shop that you worked all hours to keep going.

Granted, then it would be a different story. But I interpreted the OP as relating to employees and the general public turning a blind eye."

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"If I saw someone stealing baby food, nappies or similar, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

You would if it was your shop that you worked all hours to keep going."

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham

I hope the lamp post was ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

"

Yeah I’ve noticed this too. Since covid there seems to be way more people that are aggressive and have a bad attitude.

Just last week I saw a man kicking off at a female security guard all because she politely asked if he could move and eat somewhere out of the way of the camera (he stumbled onto a TV set). He really kicked off, shouted, called her an animal, filmed her, then spent an hour shouting abuse and talking about his “human rights” until the police arrived.

People have spent way too much time being aggy online and think they can do the same in real life.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"It's not quite shoplifting but we've had a recent spate of diners ordering the most expensive items off the menu, plenty of drinks and leaving without paying.

Attitudes have got awful, people have become aggressive. We've been told now to leave them to walk away if once challenged (handed the bill amd reminded they need to pay) we think they're gonna get aggy.

Personal safety is becoming a ridiculously huge concern.

I can only imagine the same is happening in supermarkets. Add to that not wanting a struggling mother to get in trouble over trying to feed a small child. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the staff pay for the items themselves at some point to try to avoid incident.

Yeah I’ve noticed this too. Since covid there seems to be way more people that are aggressive and have a bad attitude.

Just last week I saw a man kicking off at a female security guard all because she politely asked if he could move and eat somewhere out of the way of the camera (he stumbled onto a TV set). He really kicked off, shouted, called her an animal, filmed her, then spent an hour shouting abuse and talking about his “human rights” until the police arrived.

People have spent way too much time being aggy online and think they can do the same in real life."

Spot on. Vile innit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I saw two likely fellows try to pay for a curry with a stolen credit card. The manager told them the card was rejected. They legged it. He looked at us and said no problem as he’d be compensated. Next minute a copper comes in and asks why he’d seen two men dash from the restaurant. The manager told him what happened and then the policeman told a waiting motorcycle cop about it.

Cue a big chase around town resulting in the two guys crashing into a lamppost and one being killed."

Is that karma.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hope the lamp post was ok."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I saw two likely fellows try to pay for a curry with a stolen credit card. The manager told them the card was rejected. They legged it. He looked at us and said no problem as he’d be compensated. Next minute a copper comes in and asks why he’d seen two men dash from the restaurant. The manager told him what happened and then the policeman told a waiting motorcycle cop about it.

Cue a big chase around town resulting in the two guys crashing into a lamppost and one being killed.

Is that karma. "

Or korma

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"I saw two likely fellows try to pay for a curry with a stolen credit card. The manager told them the card was rejected. They legged it. He looked at us and said no problem as he’d be compensated. Next minute a copper comes in and asks why he’d seen two men dash from the restaurant. The manager told him what happened and then the policeman told a waiting motorcycle cop about it.

Cue a big chase around town resulting in the two guys crashing into a lamppost and one being killed.

Is that karma.

Or korma "

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

Lets hope we don't get like San Francisco it has Become a Shoplifter’s Paradise,

Walgreens has closed 22 stores in the city, where thefts under $950 are effectively decriminalized as the police refuse to attend. No wonder you need a gun over there.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

They aren’t allowed to do anything in many stores and tbh the way they are treated in some they don’t care in the slightest. Shoplifting food is phenomenal by Roma round here , always the same people and when stopped ( by security not staff) they pull out a wad of 50s apologise and try to pay but they are escorted out without the food and banned again and again. They even send children stealing with handwritten IOU”s to hand over if caught

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By *iromancergirl1Woman
over a year ago

bolton

My son works for a furniture store and he taps me all the time that drug addicts come in to steal stuff to sell on him and the security guy run after them and get the stuff back he is 6ft and muscular so he says that when he catches them they just hand it back accompanied with lots of bad language iv told him to stop before one of them stabs him

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

What's going on here guys

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