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"People (mainly men) are realising it’s a loss to get married. Zero benefits. Plenty of risks " That’s sad | |||
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"Where is this headed guys?" Straight to the divorce courts Tom and no mistake. | |||
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"Reports that opposite sex marriage rates are at their lowest since the 1970s. It's pretty much dieing out year on year and less than 1 in 5 are religeous marriages. Marriage and Christianity are pretty much dead ducks in England.. What's going on here guys... " I'd answer this question. But certain women here don't like reality and get very upset at me for pointing out the truth. | |||
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"People (mainly men) are realising it’s a loss to get married. Zero benefits. Plenty of risks " This. Men are choosing to avoid relationships too. Too much risk involved at every level. Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. | |||
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"Where is this headed guys? Straight to the divorce courts Tom and no mistake." Now, I ain't sayin' she a gold digger. | |||
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"Where is this headed guys?" It’s headed down a tricky road legally If people stop getting married, what happens when these long term “relationships” come to an end? Usually married is the binding contract that entitled someone to a pay out. Without that contract in place, what do those people do? You’ll start seeing laws here much like laws that exist in some parts of the US. Law that mean if you cohabit with someone you become legally bound to support them if they move out. Laws like these will most likely be abused and weaponised by greedy people looking to make a quick buck after a breakup It’s a weird road, only time will tell | |||
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"Where is this headed guys? Straight to the divorce courts Tom and no mistake. Now, I ain't sayin' she a gold digger." But she ain't messin' with no *honk honk* | |||
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"This is all over the news... And what will the future look like... ?" A frightening dystopia Tom and no mistake. | |||
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"Where is this headed guys? It’s headed down a tricky road legally If people stop getting married, what happens when these long term “relationships” come to an end? Usually married is the binding contract that entitled someone to a pay out. Without that contract in place, what do those people do? You’ll start seeing laws here much like laws that exist in some parts of the US. Law that mean if you cohabit with someone you become legally bound to support them if they move out. Laws like these will most likely be abused and weaponised by greedy people looking to make a quick buck after a breakup It’s a weird road, only time will tell " Yup and it's because of those laws men are just avoiding women altogether. All it takes is one false move, one accusation justified or otherwise and you lose everything including your children. Boys are growing up seeing dad dragged through divorce court and seeing them depressed and broke and not wanting to end up the same. | |||
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"It's not all over the pews." Empty pews Jim and no mistake. | |||
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"People just need the right partner.. "That's just not possible anymore. Women are too quick to just end it. %80 of divorces are filed by women. | |||
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"Sure millions of couples in UK alone will disagree" You can't didagree with statisty but you can disagree over the interpretation of statistics.... We all know where this is heading | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with." Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow. | |||
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"Reports that opposite sex marriage rates are at their lowest since the 1970s. It's pretty much dieing out year on year and less than 1 in 5 are religeous marriages. Marriage and Christianity are pretty much dead ducks in England.. What's going on here guys... " Possibly people are cohabiting more in the 21st century | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow."Yeah they do. Who gets the house? Who gets the finances? Who gets alimony? Who gets custody in %90 of divorces? Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation? Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke. | |||
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"People (mainly men) are realising it’s a loss to get married. Zero benefits. Plenty of risks This. Men are choosing to avoid relationships too. Too much risk involved at every level. Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with." Is that true ? I know plenty of women who once bitten twice shy but, men I know or know of appear to lurch from one to another quickly. It may be a generation thing though. | |||
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"Sure millions of couples in UK alone will disagree You can't didagree with statisty but you can disagree over the interpretation of statistics.... We all know where this is heading " Straight to the divorce courts Tom and no mistake. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke."I'll give you a couple of examples. Close friend of mine bankrupted himself trying to get custody of his 4 kids from an alcoholic IV drug user ex wife. But because she's a woman she was automatically considered the better parent. What about the couple who had been divorced for 20 years. The man later started a business and became a millionaire. Who came crawling out of the woodwork and got half his money? That's right the ex. | |||
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"People just need the right partner..
That's just not possible anymore. Women are too quick to just end it.
%80 of divorces are filed by women."Course it's possible. | |||
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"People (mainly men) are realising it’s a loss to get married. Zero benefits. Plenty of risks This. Men are choosing to avoid relationships too. Too much risk involved at every level. Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Is that true ? I know plenty of women who once bitten twice shy but, men I know or know of appear to lurch from one to another quickly. It may be a generation thing though." It might be generational, it might be your own confirmation bias only seeing what it wants, it could be something else In my experience, every guy I know looks at marriage as a negative. It’s something their forced into and they joke that it’s their “ticket to lose the house” I don’t know all the ins and outs of marriage, are there any benefits? Outside of just a nice thing to do? There used to be snake tax breaks I think? Is that still a thing? | |||
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"I wouldn't do it again soon.not worth it.prefer my own money,own name. And the fact I couldn't trust a man not to cheat again" Women and men cheat at roughly the same rate. So to expect all of us to cheat means you shouldn't be in a relationship anyway. You've got trust issues. | |||
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"Have to admit that the things I've become aware of in the last few years in terms of what women get out of divorces I'm not surprised that men would avoid it. Some of it I've been truly shocked at. Gone are the vows and having the surname and all the meaning behind that. It's now all about bricks and mortor and money and custody. Such a shame. PW " That's exactly what it is now. Don't remember who said it but a woman said "It's been downhill since till death do us part, became until the death of the relationship". | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke."Such a shame people can’t be grown up about it. If only for the children’s sake. Very sad indeed. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
Such a shame people can’t be grown up about it. If only for the children’s sake. Very sad indeed. "Tell me about it. Why people use children as weapons is beyond me. The parent responsible will always get found out eventually and that's the end of that relationship. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
Such a shame people can’t be grown up about it. If only for the children’s sake. Very sad indeed.
Tell me about it. Why people use children as weapons is beyond me. The parent responsible will always get found out eventually and that's the end of that relationship."I’m talking about both parties here by the way. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
Such a shame people can’t be grown up about it. If only for the children’s sake. Very sad indeed.
Tell me about it. Why people use children as weapons is beyond me. The parent responsible will always get found out eventually and that's the end of that relationship.
I’m talking about both parties here by the way. "As am I. However. In all honesty I've never once heard a man say he'll deny access to the kids mother. Heard plenty of women say it. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
Such a shame people can’t be grown up about it. If only for the children’s sake. Very sad indeed.
Tell me about it. Why people use children as weapons is beyond me. The parent responsible will always get found out eventually and that's the end of that relationship.
I’m talking about both parties here by the way.
As am I. However. In all honesty I've never once heard a man say he'll deny access to the kids mother. Heard plenty of women say it."I think both sides are as bad as eachother, but since courts favour the women we never see the gif success. Kinda like how if 2 people cheated at poker but the house turned a blind eye for one. They’re both still cheating, but only one’s gonna actually win | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
Such a shame people can’t be grown up about it. If only for the children’s sake. Very sad indeed.
Tell me about it. Why people use children as weapons is beyond me. The parent responsible will always get found out eventually and that's the end of that relationship.
I’m talking about both parties here by the way.
As am I. However. In all honesty I've never once heard a man say he'll deny access to the kids mother. Heard plenty of women say it."In fact. My partner and I had a rough patch. We were split for about 9 months. She told me when we got back together she was shocked that all of her friends were trying to convince her to not let me see my son. Thankfully she's not the vindictive type. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
Such a shame people can’t be grown up about it. If only for the children’s sake. Very sad indeed.
Tell me about it. Why people use children as weapons is beyond me. The parent responsible will always get found out eventually and that's the end of that relationship.
I’m talking about both parties here by the way.
As am I. However. In all honesty I've never once heard a man say he'll deny access to the kids mother. Heard plenty of women say it."I haven’t heard any women say it either unless there was a good reason. Ie: abuse or violence. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
Such a shame people can’t be grown up about it. If only for the children’s sake. Very sad indeed.
Tell me about it. Why people use children as weapons is beyond me. The parent responsible will always get found out eventually and that's the end of that relationship.
I’m talking about both parties here by the way.
As am I. However. In all honesty I've never once heard a man say he'll deny access to the kids mother. Heard plenty of women say it.
I haven’t heard any women say it either unless there was a good reason. Ie: abuse or violence. "I've worked in 3 very femal dominated industries. I've heard it numerous times. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
Such a shame people can’t be grown up about it. If only for the children’s sake. Very sad indeed.
Tell me about it. Why people use children as weapons is beyond me. The parent responsible will always get found out eventually and that's the end of that relationship.
I’m talking about both parties here by the way.
As am I. However. In all honesty I've never once heard a man say he'll deny access to the kids mother. Heard plenty of women say it.
I haven’t heard any women say it either unless there was a good reason. Ie: abuse or violence.
I've worked in 3 very femal dominated industries. I've heard it numerous times."In fact now I think about it. The only time I’ve heard of someone denying access to the children was a man (and rightly so) as the mother was abusive and a drug addict. | |||
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"I don't think it's dead, plenty of people are happily married and have been so for many years. People are more put of getting married now due to rising cost reasons, most want a house before marriage and that alone takes every bit of saving. Mrs" The stats don't reflect that though. It's men choosing not to get married. Plenty of women are willing. Men are not. | |||
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"People (mainly men) are realising it’s a loss to get married. Zero benefits. Plenty of risks This. Men are choosing to avoid relationships too. Too much risk involved at every level. Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Is that true ? I know plenty of women who once bitten twice shy but, men I know or know of appear to lurch from one to another quickly. It may be a generation thing though. It might be generational, it might be your own confirmation bias only seeing what it wants, it could be something else In my experience, every guy I know looks at marriage as a negative. It’s something their forced into and they joke that it’s their “ticket to lose the house” I don’t know all the ins and outs of marriage, are there any benefits? Outside of just a nice thing to do? There used to be snake tax breaks I think? Is that still a thing? " Well, those men shouldn't do it then, I'm never doing it again no matter what gets said. I got all the responsibility of the children, he on the other hand pretended he didn't even have children to prospective women, work colleagues and friends. I personally do not want another live in person male or female, it's a recipe for disaster for me. | |||
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Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke."^ I hereby recommend that you have a sex change. Problem solved. Now go forth and dig some gold.  | |||
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"Where is this headed guys? Straight to the divorce courts Tom and no mistake. Now, I ain't sayin' she a gold digger." Go West Young Man  | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
^ I hereby recommend that you have a sex change. Problem solved. Now go forth and dig some gold. "Don't need to. I have one of the last remaining women that acts like a woman and doesn't expect to be treated like royalty without treating me the same way first. She has 5 brothers so she gets men. She learnt from being around men. Not being told by other women who think they understand men. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
^ I hereby recommend that you have a sex change. Problem solved. Now go forth and dig some gold.
Don't need to. I have one of the last remaining women that acts like a woman and doesn't expect to be treated like royalty without treating me the same way first.
She has 5 brothers so she gets men. She learnt from being around men. Not being told by other women who think they understand men."In what way does she "act" like a woman ? | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
^ I hereby recommend that you have a sex change. Problem solved. Now go forth and dig some gold.
Don't need to. I have one of the last remaining women that acts like a woman and doesn't expect to be treated like royalty without treating me the same way first.
She has 5 brothers so she gets men. She learnt from being around men. Not being told by other women who think they understand men.
In what way does she "act" like a woman ? "That's how uncommon it is. You don't know what femininity is. | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
^ I hereby recommend that you have a sex change. Problem solved. Now go forth and dig some gold.
Don't need to. I have one of the last remaining women that acts like a woman and doesn't expect to be treated like royalty without treating me the same way first.
She has 5 brothers so she gets men. She learnt from being around men. Not being told by other women who think they understand men.
In what way does she "act" like a woman ?
That's how uncommon it is. You don't know what femininity is."Lol...I'm just asking you, it's a normal question | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
^ I hereby recommend that you have a sex change. Problem solved. Now go forth and dig some gold.
Don't need to. I have one of the last remaining women that acts like a woman and doesn't expect to be treated like royalty without treating me the same way first.
She has 5 brothers so she gets men. She learnt from being around men. Not being told by other women who think they understand men.
In what way does she "act" like a woman ? "she won’t break wind in public pre nuptial problem solved the one case that sticks out for me as unfair was ray parlour (Romford pele) | |||
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"Women have all the power so men are just checking out and not bothering to begin with. Yeah, women have it so easy
Ahem. Wow.
Yeah they do.
Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
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"Intrigued. Outside of anecdotes does anyone have data to support the suggestion of bias. My first hit suggested no when it comes to child care (other than if I understand it correctly, it's more likely the mum will seek to take responsibility...) https://warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/pressreleases/study_finds_english/ " At last, a source! | |||
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"Where is this headed guys? Straight to the divorce courts Tom and no mistake." Marriage is the first step to divorce. | |||
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"https://www.fathers-4-justice.org/about-f4j/fact-sheet/ There’s a lot of other info on their but they have a section on child support discrimination " Let me guess, they don't think they should pay any | |||
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"I don't think it's dead, plenty of people are happily married and have been so for many years. People are more put of getting married now due to rising cost reasons, most want a house before marriage and that alone takes every bit of saving. Mrs The stats don't reflect that though. It's men choosing not to get married. Plenty of women are willing. Men are not." Gosh in my life group of friends it's the men that want to get married! More men still propose than the ladies? | |||
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"https://www.fathers-4-justice.org/about-f4j/fact-sheet/ There’s a lot of other info on their but they have a section on child support discrimination Let me guess, they don't think they should pay any "A little rude to mock a charity aimed at helping struggling men but I’ll just assume to a poor joke instead of anything malicious | |||
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"https://www.fathers-4-justice.org/about-f4j/fact-sheet/ There’s a lot of other info on their but they have a section on child support discrimination "
Some eye opening stats.
My fear is men's right fight the battles that aren't there (possibly court unfairness) rather than the issues that are.
The trouble is it's easy to find anecdotes of bad outcomes, as these tend to be shared (especially in men only forums)... But it's a lot harder to bring up a good outcome anecdote in these arenas.
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"https://www.fathers-4-justice.org/about-f4j/fact-sheet/ There’s a lot of other info on their but they have a section on child support discrimination
Some eye opening stats.
My fear is men's right fight the battles that aren't there (possibly court unfairness) rather than the issues that are.
The trouble is it's easy to find anecdotes of bad outcomes, as these tend to be shared (especially in men only forums)... But it's a lot harder to bring up a good outcome anecdote in these arenas.
(Note: the above applies to a lot of movements, not just men's issues). "Very true, although I’d say trying to deal with all that in one go is almost impossible for a single charity, and if you only focus on the underlying issues the people currently effected won’t get help. Underlying issues take decades to fix. So charities like this are there to help people while society changes. But I do agree. A balanced approach is needed. | |||
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Some eye opening stats.
My fear is men's right fight the battles that aren't there (possibly court unfairness) rather than the issues that are.
The trouble is it's easy to find anecdotes of bad outcomes, as these tend to be shared (especially in men only forums)... But it's a lot harder to bring up a good outcome anecdote in these arenas.
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Very true, although I’d say trying to deal with all that in one go is almost impossible for a single charity, and if you only focus on the underlying issues the people currently effected won’t get help. Underlying issues take decades to fix. So charities like this are there to help people while society changes.
But I do agree. A balanced approach is needed. "we just need to remember we are society. So we need to be change we want to see in the world. But agree. It's one step on the ladder at a time. Just make sure you are climbing the right tree! | |||
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A little rude to mock a charity aimed at helping struggling men but I’ll just assume to a poor joke instead of anything malicious "I've just read about them. It's not mocking at all, just an observation on life. I believe in inequality and equal parental responsibilities, many men when a marraige ends think the money is all theirs and child responsibility is the mothers. Mr is one of the few men I know that takes responsibility for his Son, it's one of the things that I respect about him. | |||
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Who gets the house?
Who gets the finances?
Who gets alimony?
Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
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Don't need to. I have one of the last remaining women that acts like a woman and doesn't expect to be treated like royalty without treating me the same way first.
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Who gets the house?
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Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
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Don't need to. I have one of the last remaining women that acts like a woman and doesn't expect to be treated like royalty without treating me the same way first.
She has 5 brothers so she gets men. She learnt from being around men. Not being told by other women who think they understand men.
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"COVID gave weddings a kick while marriage was down. Hands up those who regret spunking a fortune on a party for guests you long lost contact with. As humans our attention span has shrunk thanks to the pace of modern life. How many of the forthcoming generations will have the patience for in sickness and in health, till death do us part. They live for the upgrade! " I have no regrets about my wedding day, or the money spent on guests. It was a lovely day. My husband definitely benefited from our marriage. | |||
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Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
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Don't need to. I have one of the last remaining women that acts like a woman and doesn't expect to be treated like royalty without treating me the same way first.
She has 5 brothers so she gets men. She learnt from being around men. Not being told by other women who think they understand men.
In what way does she "act" like a woman ?
That's how uncommon it is. You don't know what femininity is.
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"I’m not sure why these types of posts end up us against them let’s face it some women are cunts and some men are cunts. I cant really explain why many people are choosing not to get married maybe it’s a outdated concept.I knew from the age of 18 I wanted to marry my husband and we married when I was 20 .My parents had a great marriage so maybe that played a part .." Some people have some strong views don't they, shame it has to get bitter though ay  | |||
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Yeah they do.
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Who gets custody in %90 of divorces?
Who commits suicide more often due to parental alienation?
Yeah. Its a bowl of cherries being a bloke.
^ I hereby recommend that you have a sex change. Problem solved. Now go forth and dig some gold.
Don't need to. I have one of the last remaining women that acts like a woman and doesn't expect to be treated like royalty without treating me the same way first.
She has 5 brothers so she gets men. She learnt from being around men. Not being told by other women who think they understand men.
In what way does she "act" like a woman ?
That's how uncommon it is. You don't know what femininity is."Oh, the irony! Perhaps it is outdated notions of femininity and masculinity that contribute to your long list of ways that women have it better.
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? " We got married in the church 2 weeks ago, Record numbers of people are getting married this year and record numbers in a church. Some of this will be down to the covid backlog. | |||
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"Reality and the cost The cost has nothing to do with it. You can legally get married for £200. We recently got married and didn't spend very much but it was a fabulous day. " Some people have big families and want to go all out if they marry. Mine was a budget wedding back in the 80s and still cost £4000. | |||
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"Reality and the cost The cost has nothing to do with it. You can legally get married for £200. We recently got married and didn't spend very much but it was a fabulous day. Some people have big families and want to go all out if they marry. Mine was a budget wedding back in the 80s and still cost £4000." We didn't have a small wedding. Weddings cost as much or as little as you want them to. | |||
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"Reality and the cost The cost has nothing to do with it. You can legally get married for £200. We recently got married and didn't spend very much but it was a fabulous day. Some people have big families and want to go all out if they marry. Mine was a budget wedding back in the 80s and still cost £4000." We had 50 people during the day, 100 in the evening and ours cost just over that. The most expensive part was the church. | |||
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"Reality and the cost The cost has nothing to do with it. You can legally get married for £200. We recently got married and didn't spend very much but it was a fabulous day. Some people have big families and want to go all out if they marry. Mine was a budget wedding back in the 80s and still cost £4000. We had 50 people during the day, 100 in the evening and ours cost just over that. The most expensive part was the church. " My church was the least expensive part of my wedding. I opted for no extra flowers and no choir. I wanted to get in and out lol | |||
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"Reality and the cost The cost has nothing to do with it. You can legally get married for £200. We recently got married and didn't spend very much but it was a fabulous day. Some people have big families and want to go all out if they marry. Mine was a budget wedding back in the 80s and still cost £4000. We had 50 people during the day, 100 in the evening and ours cost just over that. The most expensive part was the church. My church was the least expensive part of my wedding. I opted for no extra flowers and no choir. I wanted to get in and out lol " The church we got married in it was just a package price. The church of England standard fee is now £500. To be honest though it didn't work out that much more expensive than a registry office for the same amount of people, Plus we had more time and flowers, Organist ect.. | |||
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"Where is this headed guys? It’s headed down a tricky road legally If people stop getting married, what happens when these long term “relationships” come to an end? Usually married is the binding contract that entitled someone to a pay out. Without that contract in place, what do those people do? You’ll start seeing laws here much like laws that exist in some parts of the US. Law that mean if you cohabit with someone you become legally bound to support them if they move out. Laws like these will most likely be abused and weaponised by greedy people looking to make a quick buck after a breakup It’s a weird road, only time will tell Yup and it's because of those laws men are just avoiding women altogether. All it takes is one false move, one accusation justified or otherwise and you lose everything including your children. Boys are growing up seeing dad dragged through divorce court and seeing them depressed and broke and not wanting to end up the same." That's a really fucking depressing and dim view of both men and women | |||
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"We are not religious but we are getting married next year. It has taken us all this time to find our true soul mates. Marriage is not dead but the world is making it harder and attitudes towards relationships and commitment has changed." Congratulations and we wish you all the best! Taking the time to find ‘the right one’ and not rushing into things is a big part of the secret to success when it comes to marriage. | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older." And while I'm at it. Can we stop saying "people aren't getting married". It's not men and women deciding to avoid marriage. It's men deciding to avoid marriage. And for very good reasons too. | |||
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"Reports that opposite sex marriage rates are at their lowest since the 1970s. It's pretty much dieing out year on year and less than 1 in 5 are religeous marriages. Marriage and Christianity are pretty much dead ducks in England.. What's going on here guys... Absolutely dead! No-one gets married these days! Heavens, that’s very last century! Never ever marry! Swinging and one-nighters is the way forward. Sexual relationships should never be long-term. Always base them on short-term excitement then move on to the next! Keeps everyone fresh and on their toes. " Also produces a lot of illegitimate children who will grow up without a two parent household. Children with no father in the house are at greater risk of commiting crime, ending up in poverty, failing at school etc etc etc. Same goes for girls too. Increases risk of teenage pregnancy etc etc etc. I believe in marriage. I just don't think the next generation of women will deserve it. Far to entitled. Yet another reason men are opting out. The ridiculous expectations. They want to be modern women while still holding men to old fashioned standards. It's a joke. | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older." Did you know research has shown the exact opposite!!! Single ladies live longer then those in relationships and men in relationships live shorter then those not! Also women live longer then men in general!!! | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older. Are you just making this nonsense up as you go along now?" Yep. As he does on every thread. | |||
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"Reports that opposite sex marriage rates are at their lowest since the 1970s. It's pretty much dieing out year on year and less than 1 in 5 are religeous marriages. Marriage and Christianity are pretty much dead ducks in England.. What's going on here guys... Absolutely dead! No-one gets married these days! Heavens, that’s very last century! Never ever marry! Swinging and one-nighters is the way forward. Sexual relationships should never be long-term. Always base them on short-term excitement then move on to the next! Keeps everyone fresh and on their toes. Also produces a lot of illegitimate children who will grow up without a two parent household. Children with no father in the house are at greater risk of commiting crime, ending up in poverty, failing at school etc etc etc. Same goes for girls too. Increases risk of teenage pregnancy etc etc etc. I believe in marriage. I just don't think the next generation of women will deserve it. Far to entitled. Yet another reason men are opting out. The ridiculous expectations. They want to be modern women while still holding men to old fashioned standards. It's a joke." Have we not had our weetabix this morning? | |||
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"Reports that opposite sex marriage rates are at their lowest since the 1970s. It's pretty much dieing out year on year and less than 1 in 5 are religeous marriages. Marriage and Christianity are pretty much dead ducks in England.. What's going on here guys... Absolutely dead! No-one gets married these days! Heavens, that’s very last century! Never ever marry! Swinging and one-nighters is the way forward. Sexual relationships should never be long-term. Always base them on short-term excitement then move on to the next! Keeps everyone fresh and on their toes. Also produces a lot of illegitimate children who will grow up without a two parent household. Children with no father in the house are at greater risk of commiting crime, ending up in poverty, failing at school etc etc etc. Same goes for girls too. Increases risk of teenage pregnancy etc etc etc. I believe in marriage. I just don't think the next generation of women will deserve it. Far to entitled. Yet another reason men are opting out. The ridiculous expectations. They want to be modern women while still holding men to old fashioned standards. It's a joke." You are sounding like you're an incel though you're not single! You do sound incredibly bitter and I'm sorry for that but blaming one gender for everything is very sad and very very incorrect ... men do as much and more to women unfortunately, especially read anything and the law from 75 years plus ago! P | |||
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"Reports that opposite sex marriage rates are at their lowest since the 1970s. It's pretty much dieing out year on year and less than 1 in 5 are religeous marriages. Marriage and Christianity are pretty much dead ducks in England.. What's going on here guys... Absolutely dead! No-one gets married these days! Heavens, that’s very last century! Never ever marry! Swinging and one-nighters is the way forward. Sexual relationships should never be long-term. Always base them on short-term excitement then move on to the next! Keeps everyone fresh and on their toes. Also produces a lot of illegitimate children who will grow up without a two parent household. Children with no father in the house are at greater risk of commiting crime, ending up in poverty, failing at school etc etc etc. Same goes for girls too. Increases risk of teenage pregnancy etc etc etc. I believe in marriage. I just don't think the next generation of women will deserve it. Far to entitled. Yet another reason men are opting out. The ridiculous expectations. They want to be modern women while still holding men to old fashioned standards. It's a joke." I think you've missed a few tropes | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older. Are you just making this nonsense up as you go along now? Yep. As he does on every thread. " Oh does he?!?!? Just a reaction getter?? In that case I'll happily back out Thanks | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older. Are you just making this nonsense up as you go along now? Yep. As he does on every thread. Oh does he?!?!? Just a reaction getter?? In that case I'll happily back out Thanks "He spouts the same nasty stuff about women then disappears when challenged. Called me a mad feminist yesterday for daring to do that. | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older. Are you just making this nonsense up as you go along now? Yep. As he does on every thread. Oh does he?!?!? Just a reaction getter?? In that case I'll happily back out Thanks
He spouts the same nasty stuff about women then disappears when challenged. Called me a mad feminist yesterday for daring to do that. "See a above post of mine then ... really does sound like an incel!! Terrifying  | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older. Did you know research has shown the exact opposite!!! Single ladies live longer then those in relationships and men in relationships live shorter then those not! Also women live longer then men in general!!! " Should say *men NOT in relationships live shorter than those in relationships ... got to love early morning typing  | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older. Are you just making this nonsense up as you go along now? Yep. As he does on every thread. Oh does he?!?!? Just a reaction getter?? In that case I'll happily back out Thanks
He spouts the same nasty stuff about women then disappears when challenged. Called me a mad feminist yesterday for daring to do that.
See a above post of mine then ... really does sound like an incel!! Terrifying "I find reading the male perspective on here genuinely interesting - I do want to understand. I will read sources men point to. But hyperbolic rants aren't worth anyone's time! | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older. Are you just making this nonsense up as you go along now? Yep. As he does on every thread. Oh does he?!?!? Just a reaction getter?? In that case I'll happily back out Thanks
He spouts the same nasty stuff about women then disappears when challenged. Called me a mad feminist yesterday for daring to do that.
See a above post of mine then ... really does sound like an incel!! Terrifying
I find reading the male perspective on here genuinely interesting - I do want to understand. I will read sources men point to. But hyperbolic rants aren't worth anyone's time!"If the incel movement continues at the same rate being female will go back 100 years unfortunately We have only had choices for the last 60 years and some men are determined to take it away from us! Really scary ... | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older. Are you just making this nonsense up as you go along now? Yep. As he does on every thread. Oh does he?!?!? Just a reaction getter?? In that case I'll happily back out Thanks
He spouts the same nasty stuff about women then disappears when challenged. Called me a mad feminist yesterday for daring to do that.
See a above post of mine then ... really does sound like an incel!! Terrifying
I find reading the male perspective on here genuinely interesting - I do want to understand. I will read sources men point to. But hyperbolic rants aren't worth anyone's time!
If the incel movement continues at the same rate being female will go back 100 years unfortunately
We have only had choices for the last 60 years and some men are determined to take it away from us! Really scary ... "Oh don't get me started on Roe v Wade - what's being done to womens' rights in the US is terrifying. | |||
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"Moving forward then less and less people will marry and very few in church.. Is this progress? The venue and religious context has in real terms been nothing but a sham for many for decades. Civilisation is not going to crumble if fewer couples decide to marry. But a continued decline in committed long term relationships may bring about some negative outcomes in the long run. Precisely what those might be remains to be seen. I think longterm we'll see major concerns in old age, lack of love and companionship cause major mental health issues Only for women. Single men get happier as they get older. Women get unhappier as they get older." What a load of rubbish, I'm 57, happier and more content than ever. | |||
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"Reports that opposite sex marriage rates are at their lowest since the 1970s. It's pretty much dieing out year on year and less than 1 in 5 are religeous marriages. Marriage and Christianity are pretty much dead ducks in England.. What's going on here guys... Absolutely dead! No-one gets married these days! Heavens, that’s very last century! Never ever marry! Swinging and one-nighters is the way forward. Sexual relationships should never be long-term. Always base them on short-term excitement then move on to the next! Keeps everyone fresh and on their toes. Also produces a lot of illegitimate children who will grow up without a two parent household. Children with no father in the house are at greater risk of commiting crime, ending up in poverty, failing at school etc etc etc. Same goes for girls too. Increases risk of teenage pregnancy etc etc etc. I believe in marriage. I just don't think the next generation of women will deserve it. Far to entitled. Yet another reason men are opting out. The ridiculous expectations. They want to be modern women while still holding men to old fashioned standards. It's a joke." The same would be true if the fathers took the responsibility of the children and the mothers buggered off to have children with one or two other men. | |||
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"Remind me to stay away from Bishop's Stortford. There are a few inhabitants who are 'cerebrally challenged'. "And who like to spread their woman-hating tropes all over a thread and then disappear without justifying or evidencing any of it. Funny that. | |||
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