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"In other news, record obesity figures.  "That’s because healthy food costs more than junk. Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse. Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet. | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
"Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating Processed foods just make that much easier You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day You can gain weight on the healthiest diet | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet " | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet "this all day long, i have a friend who eats very healthy food, he just eats to much of it, and is massivly overwieght | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet
this all day long, i have a friend who eats very healthy food, he just eats to much of it, and is massivly overwieght"Junk food being cheaper then healthy food is a tough one too I think what they mean is, tasty junk food is cheaper then tasty healthy food Rice meat and veg, plus some olive oil, that’s a pretty healthy, very cheap combo. But 99% of people won’t do that because it doesn’t satisfy their taste requirements. | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet
this all day long, i have a friend who eats very healthy food, he just eats to much of it, and is massivly overwieght"I said “isn’t necessarily connected to overeating”. Overeating is still a cause of obesity. A large part of the current obesity crisis is the paucity of affordable healthy food. I think that there needs to be an end to the idea that low income equates to being thin. Studies and evidence point to very different answers. | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
"That's a comforting myth but it really isn't true. Obesity is largely caused by eating too much. | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet
this all day long, i have a friend who eats very healthy food, he just eats to much of it, and is massivly overwieght
I said “isn’t necessarily connected to overeating”. Overeating is still a cause of obesity.
A large part of the current obesity crisis is the paucity of affordable healthy food.
I think that there needs to be an end to the idea that low income equates to being thin. Studies and evidence point to very different answers. "Completely agree But the statement “ isn’t necessarily connected to overeating” suggest that you can over eat and still lose weight if you eat the right food, which isn’t true And it might also suggest the opposite, that you can under eat the wrong food and still gain weight, which also isn’t true Portion control is key and if eating processed junk food is what you want/can afford, people should be made aware that’s not an excuse to be overweight. The problem isn’t food selection, it’s quantity causing the issue. But we can’t ignore your other point either. Cheap, highly palatable and low satiety foods don’t make this easy. And this is all compacted by poor education in areas of health like nutrition and exercise | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh" Can't budget with fuck all | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all" nobody in this country has fuck all tho | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all nobody in this country has fuck all tho" I disagree | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet "You can put weight on our not lose weight by not eating enough or not eating regularly. Your body stores food not knowing when it's going to get food again. Don't be so quick to assume it's all so do with overeating or eating highly processed food. I much prefer a healthy steamed veg and fish meal to a ready made microwave meal (don't know the last time I bought one of those ping meals) and a salad to a sandwich. But, I have ME and can't prepare a good meal every day. But, I don't eat loads of unhealthy food because I don't buy it. I have a tendancy to not think about food, so don't eat often enough. | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all nobody in this country has fuck all tho I disagree" ive lived in counties where people genuinly have nothing, ive never seen that in the uk | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all nobody in this country has fuck all tho" It’s probably a bit of both I’m sure there’s plenty of people complaining about the food shop despite them eating better than 90% of people. People that still have Multiple streaming services, a brand new iPhone and get takeaway 1-2 times a month probably shouldn’t be complaining When I was living alone on £30 a day as an apprentice I learned how to eat cheap. Beans on toast, beans on rice and frozen chicken breast were staples. But on the other side, how hard should people struggle until there’s change? Should we all be eating rice and beans 3x a day and living on hand down cloths before we speak up? | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet
You can put weight on our not lose weight by not eating enough or not eating regularly. Your body stores food not knowing when it's going to get food again.
Don't be so quick to assume it's all so do with overeating or eating highly processed food. I much prefer a healthy steamed veg and fish meal to a ready made microwave meal (don't know the last time I bought one of those ping meals) and a salad to a sandwich. But, I have ME and can't prepare a good meal every day. But, I don't eat loads of unhealthy food because I don't buy it. I have a tendancy to not think about food, so don't eat often enough. "im in a similar position, i have epilepsy and memory issues after a head injury, and often forget to eat, i keep a diary to remind me, but often forget to look at it lol | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet
You can put weight on our not lose weight by not eating enough or not eating regularly. Your body stores food not knowing when it's going to get food again.
Don't be so quick to assume it's all so do with overeating or eating highly processed food. I much prefer a healthy steamed veg and fish meal to a ready made microwave meal (don't know the last time I bought one of those ping meals) and a salad to a sandwich. But, I have ME and can't prepare a good meal every day. But, I don't eat loads of unhealthy food because I don't buy it. I have a tendancy to not think about food, so don't eat often enough.
im in a similar position, i have epilepsy and memory issues after a head injury, and often forget to eat, i keep a diary to remind me, but often forget to look at it lol"That's the problem isn't it? We need reminders for the reminders. I've tried using alarms on my phone and Alexa, but if I'm not in a position to be able to get food straight away, I usually don't think to set another alarm and then forget all about it. | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all nobody in this country has fuck all tho I disagree ive lived in counties where people genuinly have nothing, ive never seen that in the uk" Then you're not looking. The number of people in absolute poverty (including children) is rising sharply. In winter, when people will have to choose between fuel and food - there will be a rise in poverty related deaths. But I guess if they all have budgeting lessons it will be ok. | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet
You can put weight on our not lose weight by not eating enough or not eating regularly. Your body stores food not knowing when it's going to get food again.
Don't be so quick to assume it's all so do with overeating or eating highly processed food. I much prefer a healthy steamed veg and fish meal to a ready made microwave meal (don't know the last time I bought one of those ping meals) and a salad to a sandwich. But, I have ME and can't prepare a good meal every day. But, I don't eat loads of unhealthy food because I don't buy it. I have a tendancy to not think about food, so don't eat often enough.
im in a similar position, i have epilepsy and memory issues after a head injury, and often forget to eat, i keep a diary to remind me, but often forget to look at it lol
That's the problem isn't it? We need reminders for the reminders. I've tried using alarms on my phone and Alexa, but if I'm not in a position to be able to get food straight away, I usually don't think to set another alarm and then forget all about it. "me and you should nag each other lol | |||
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"This is news about desperate people stealing food. Why the hell is obesity part of this discussion? That's the first thing that springs to mind? "Because there is an obvious contradiction between claims about large numbers of people going hungry and huge rises in obesity. Because these issues are more complex than people wish to present them. | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all nobody in this country has fuck all tho I disagree ive lived in counties where people genuinly have nothing, ive never seen that in the uk Then you're not looking. The number of people in absolute poverty (including children) is rising sharply. In winter, when people will have to choose between fuel and food - there will be a rise in poverty related deaths. But I guess if they all have budgeting lessons it will be ok. "i agree that times are hard for everyone atm, i have a small income aswell as alot, but never go without food, i might not have beer or cigs etc, and i like both, its all about priorities, like i said ive been places where some have nothing, again i cant see that here. the minimum benifits are i think 350 a month, with bills paid, if you cant make that last a month then yes you need to look at your finances | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet
You can put weight on our not lose weight by not eating enough or not eating regularly. Your body stores food not knowing when it's going to get food again.
Don't be so quick to assume it's all so do with overeating or eating highly processed food. I much prefer a healthy steamed veg and fish meal to a ready made microwave meal (don't know the last time I bought one of those ping meals) and a salad to a sandwich. But, I have ME and can't prepare a good meal every day. But, I don't eat loads of unhealthy food because I don't buy it. I have a tendancy to not think about food, so don't eat often enough.
im in a similar position, i have epilepsy and memory issues after a head injury, and often forget to eat, i keep a diary to remind me, but often forget to look at it lol
That's the problem isn't it? We need reminders for the reminders. I've tried using alarms on my phone and Alexa, but if I'm not in a position to be able to get food straight away, I usually don't think to set another alarm and then forget all about it.
me and you should nag each other lol"We probably should. I had to read that twice. Think my mind is in the gutter today  | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all nobody in this country has fuck all tho I disagree ive lived in counties where people genuinly have nothing, ive never seen that in the uk Then you're not looking. The number of people in absolute poverty (including children) is rising sharply. In winter, when people will have to choose between fuel and food - there will be a rise in poverty related deaths. But I guess if they all have budgeting lessons it will be ok.
i agree that times are hard for everyone atm, i have a small income aswell as alot, but never go without food, i might not have beer or cigs etc, and i like both, its all about priorities, like i said ive been places where some have nothing, again i cant see that here. the minimum benifits are i think 350 a month, with bills paid, if you cant make that last a month then yes you need to look at your finances"It speaks volumes that people from countries who actually have nothing will risk their lives to get here. If there was “nothing” available then they wouldn’t come. People in this country have something. | |||
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"There seems to be national acceptance for turning a blind eye towards shop lifting of certain items for a while now. Formula milk, nappies and baby wipes are overlooked as an unspoken rule. If food is added to that list too........? I’m fine with that. "what if you own a shop tho and are struggling yourself? | |||
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"There seems to be national acceptance for turning a blind eye towards shop lifting of certain items for a while now. Formula milk, nappies and baby wipes are overlooked as an unspoken rule. If food is added to that list too........? I’m fine with that. "The shops certainly don't accept it, it's just that the police have given up on prosecuting shoplifting. They hardly bother with burglaries or car crime either these days. | |||
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"There seems to be national acceptance for turning a blind eye towards shop lifting of certain items for a while now. Formula milk, nappies and baby wipes are overlooked as an unspoken rule. If food is added to that list too........? I’m fine with that.
The shops certainly don't accept it, it's just that the police have given up on prosecuting shoplifting. They hardly bother with burglaries or car crime either these days."the police is a whole different debate, underfunded and those funds go to the wrong places, my cousin is a police man and thinking of leaving as he sees crime go unpunished too much | |||
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"There seems to be national acceptance for turning a blind eye towards shop lifting of certain items for a while now. Formula milk, nappies and baby wipes are overlooked as an unspoken rule. If food is added to that list too........? I’m fine with that.
what if you own a shop tho and are struggling yourself?"The majority of formula milk is stolen by drug dealers and used to cut other drugs for sale. Still ok with it? | |||
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"This is news about desperate people stealing food. Why the hell is obesity part of this discussion? That's the first thing that springs to mind?
Because there is an obvious contradiction between claims about large numbers of people going hungry and huge rises in obesity. Because these issues are more complex than people wish to present them."You’re making a very large assumption though, namely that obesity is solely caused by having lots of food and eating it. As you say; issues are more complex than people wish to present them | |||
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"Tom is no fan of the French but if a hungry peasant steals a bread roll and is chased by an overweight French market trader then the crowds never intervene. They loudly cheer as the peasant runs through the market .. This is the French tradition dating back to Louis XIV. This will likely happen in England soon and the hungry English will have to steal food to feed their children. In France the French Gendarmes do not chase hungry bread stealers and in England the Chief of Police will turn a blind eye also. Not a great time to be a market trader selling bread in England . " It's all over Les Bleus!  | |||
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"Nice of them to catch on id say its pretty obvious really you only need to look how people acted with toilet rolls people will do what they have to do to survive morality and law dont come into the equation criminality will explode out of desperation from simple things like not getting cars taxed or insured to rigging gas and elec meters to massaging truths for benefits to actively going out and doing what people know as real crime this will de sensitise people to the morality of it thats what the riots and looting begin until a bane style takeover of power " add to that the fact we wont have enough police to handle it let alone those who empathise with it or are in the same boat financially | |||
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"This is news about desperate people stealing food. Why the hell is obesity part of this discussion? That's the first thing that springs to mind?
Because there is an obvious contradiction between claims about large numbers of people going hungry and huge rises in obesity. Because these issues are more complex than people wish to present them.
You’re making a very large assumption though, namely that obesity is solely caused by having lots of food and eating it.
As you say; issues are more complex than people wish to present them"No, as said earlier obesity is largely (not solely which is your word) caused by overeating, which does not equate to having 'lots of food'. | |||
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"There seems to be national acceptance for turning a blind eye towards shop lifting of certain items for a while now. Formula milk, nappies and baby wipes are overlooked as an unspoken rule. If food is added to that list too........? I’m fine with that.
what if you own a shop tho and are struggling yourself?
The majority of formula milk is stolen by drug dealers and used to cut other drugs for sale.
Still ok with it?"As someone that was in the trade, wtf? Biggest fillers in drugs are creatine and caffeine Formula would turn milky when you add water which is a quick way to get your head kicked in by someone trying to catch you out. | |||
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"This is news about desperate people stealing food. Why the hell is obesity part of this discussion? That's the first thing that springs to mind?
Because there is an obvious contradiction between claims about large numbers of people going hungry and huge rises in obesity. Because these issues are more complex than people wish to present them."I didn't say the issues weren't complex. But I agree with Tea's earlier comment about this. Do you have any sources you'd like to point to? What's your theory? | |||
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"Seems sensible to me. In France they have a law that supermarkets can't throw away unsold food, they have to donate it. We should have that here, and maybe fewer people would feel they have to steal it. "
I don't have a problem with the truly desperate stealing from profitable supermarkets. The probably throw away more than they lose. Stealing from small shops also struggling to make ends meet wouldn't be right. Xx | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all nobody in this country has fuck all tho I disagree ive lived in counties where people genuinly have nothing, ive never seen that in the uk Then you're not looking. The number of people in absolute poverty (including children) is rising sharply. In winter, when people will have to choose between fuel and food - there will be a rise in poverty related deaths. But I guess if they all have budgeting lessons it will be ok.
i agree that times are hard for everyone atm, i have a small income aswell as alot, but never go without food, i might not have beer or cigs etc, and i like both, its all about priorities, like i said ive been places where some have nothing, again i cant see that here. the minimum benifits are i think 350 a month, with bills paid, if you cant make that last a month then yes you need to look at your finances"Times are not hard for everyone. Theyre not hard for Tory Ministers. They're not hard for the friends of Tory Ministers. So people need to look at their finances? Ok. Do they need to look at 9% inflation? Or 54% increase in energy prices? What about food? Average increase is 6.7% Fuel. National insurance. Service costs because of the energy rises. Why do you think people might be struggling even if they weren't after 10 years of austerity and 2 years of COVID? | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all nobody in this country has fuck all tho I disagree ive lived in counties where people genuinly have nothing, ive never seen that in the uk Then you're not looking. The number of people in absolute poverty (including children) is rising sharply. In winter, when people will have to choose between fuel and food - there will be a rise in poverty related deaths. But I guess if they all have budgeting lessons it will be ok.
i agree that times are hard for everyone atm, i have a small income aswell as alot, but never go without food, i might not have beer or cigs etc, and i like both, its all about priorities, like i said ive been places where some have nothing, again i cant see that here. the minimum benifits are i think 350 a month, with bills paid, if you cant make that last a month then yes you need to look at your finances
Times are not hard for everyone. Theyre not hard for Tory Ministers. They're not hard for the friends of Tory Ministers.
So people need to look at their finances? Ok. Do they need to look at 9% inflation?
Or 54% increase in energy prices?
What about food? Average increase is 6.7%
Fuel. National insurance. Service costs because of the energy rises.
Why do you think people might be struggling even if they weren't after 10 years of austerity and 2 years of COVID?"Great posting | |||
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"maybe there are other problems here, other than lack of money, maybe schools should teach how to bugget better, even someone on benifits has enough to eat on, if not then the money is going elswere, this is probably more the problem tbh Can't budget with fuck all nobody in this country has fuck all tho I disagree ive lived in counties where people genuinly have nothing, ive never seen that in the uk Then you're not looking. The number of people in absolute poverty (including children) is rising sharply. In winter, when people will have to choose between fuel and food - there will be a rise in poverty related deaths. But I guess if they all have budgeting lessons it will be ok.
i agree that times are hard for everyone atm, i have a small income aswell as alot, but never go without food, i might not have beer or cigs etc, and i like both, its all about priorities, like i said ive been places where some have nothing, again i cant see that here. the minimum benifits are i think 350 a month, with bills paid, if you cant make that last a month then yes you need to look at your finances
Times are not hard for everyone. Theyre not hard for Tory Ministers. They're not hard for the friends of Tory Ministers.
So people need to look at their finances? Ok. Do they need to look at 9% inflation?
Or 54% increase in energy prices?
What about food? Average increase is 6.7%
Fuel. National insurance. Service costs because of the energy rises.
Why do you think people might be struggling even if they weren't after 10 years of austerity and 2 years of COVID?
Great posting"Thank you | |||
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"Eating healthier costs more than eating rubbish.If your really that poor and cant afford to feed your family or yourself then im ok with stealing it.Its criminal that this country is in such a shit state ." Never an excuse to steal! There are food banks olio to good to go bags or just begging! X | |||
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"Seems sensible to me. In France they have a law that supermarkets can't throw away unsold food, they have to donate it. We should have that here, and maybe fewer people would feel they have to steal it.
I don't have a problem with the truly desperate stealing from profitable supermarkets. The probably throw away more than they lose. Stealing from small shops also struggling to make ends meet wouldn't be right. Xx"I completely disagree, stealing is stealing wherever it's taking place. It's wrong, illegal and should not be encouraged. Supermarket profits appear large in pounds but are very small in terms of percentages. They run a very tight ship and it wouldn't take much theft for the profit to turn to losses which means, prices go up and staff loose their jobs | |||
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"This is news about desperate people stealing food. Why the hell is obesity part of this discussion? That's the first thing that springs to mind?
Because there is an obvious contradiction between claims about large numbers of people going hungry and huge rises in obesity. Because these issues are more complex than people wish to present them.
I didn't say the issues weren't complex. But I agree with Tea's earlier comment about this.
Do you have any sources you'd like to point to? What's your theory?"Theory of what ? | |||
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"This is news about desperate people stealing food. Why the hell is obesity part of this discussion? That's the first thing that springs to mind?
Because there is an obvious contradiction between claims about large numbers of people going hungry and huge rises in obesity. Because these issues are more complex than people wish to present them.
I didn't say the issues weren't complex. But I agree with Tea's earlier comment about this.
Do you have any sources you'd like to point to? What's your theory?
Theory of what ?"Why there's a contradiction as you put it. | |||
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"Seems sensible to me. In France they have a law that supermarkets can't throw away unsold food, they have to donate it. We should have that here, and maybe fewer people would feel they have to steal it.
I don't have a problem with the truly desperate stealing from profitable supermarkets. The probably throw away more than they lose. Stealing from small shops also struggling to make ends meet wouldn't be right. Xx
I completely disagree, stealing is stealing wherever it's taking place. It's wrong, illegal and should not be encouraged.
Supermarket profits appear large in pounds but are very small in terms of percentages. They run a very tight ship and it wouldn't take much theft for the profit to turn to losses which means, prices go up and staff loose their jobs "In the retail world, it is interesting that from a security point of view it is staff that steal the most, the term is called shrinkage and applies to customers, loss of stock due to damage and theft by staff which is the highest. | |||
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"Don't punish the people in poverty, punch the one's who put them there." i agree | |||
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"Don't punish the people in poverty, punish the one's who put them there." Oh for fuck sake. | |||
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"Don't punish the people in poverty, punish the one's who put them there. Oh for fuck sake. " Problem? | |||
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"I believe the police aren’t interested in shoplifting below a certain amount anyway so probably a non statement." He knows crime of this nature will increase He does not think police (or prisons could cope) Why he just did not keep quiet is odd though as his comments will just act as a green light for those on the fence! Invest in ammo! | |||
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"In other news, record obesity figures.
That’s because healthy food costs more than junk.
Ready meals are made cheaply with low cost, high fat/salt/sugar content. Many can’t afford to buy lots of fresh fruit or veg so the obesity crisis gets worse.
Obesity isn’t necessarily connected to overeating, it’s about quality of diet.
Completely false, obesity is directly related to over eating
Processed foods just make that much easier
You can lose weight on McDonald’s 3x a day
You can gain weight on the healthiest diet
this all day long, i have a friend who eats very healthy food, he just eats to much of it, and is massivly overwieght
Junk food being cheaper then healthy food is a tough one too
I think what they mean is, tasty junk food is cheaper then tasty healthy food
Rice meat and veg, plus some olive oil, that’s a pretty healthy, very cheap combo. But 99% of people won’t do that because it doesn’t satisfy their taste requirements. "Even if they were to cost the same - Healthy food usually require some effort. A packet of hobnobs or a cheeseburger for 99p takes less effort to acquire and prepare for consumption and the same Money spent on veg soup. Whilst it cannot be a sweeping generalisation - there will of course be many exceptions - but there is probably a slight correlation to the effort scale and those who opt for the easy option vs the value/healthy option. Low intelligence comes into play too. But we digress from the shoplifting theme. I fancy eating a new bmw for supper  | |||
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"This is news about desperate people stealing food. Why the hell is obesity part of this discussion? That's the first thing that springs to mind? "The obese are easier for the police to catch as they can’t or won’t run so quickly? They might. Survive longer on prison rations? They may not have as much need to steal as have a substantial calorific reserve. | |||
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"It's a real shame on a country that despite being advanced we still have people in poverty going hungry. It's not like the food isn't available, it's sitting there in shelves of supermarkets. But out of greed and profit we've decided to price people out of affording it. We like to blame governments but it's the collective society at fault. Us wanting higher wages, means companies have higher expenses and put prices up. Us wanting fatter pensions, means the companies our pensions are invested in try to maximise profits. Our society is a lasagna of profit designed to milk as much out of people as possible. We're all part of the problem like we are with climate change." Cut consumption and you cut carbon. Reduce spending power across the board and consumption will fall. Sounds a bit conspiratorial, but if the action to mitigate does not outweigh the negative impact then you can bet your bottom dollar that the outcome if not planned is desired. I.e - make most westerners poorer and there’ll be less carbon. Capisce? | |||
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"This is news about desperate people stealing food. Why the hell is obesity part of this discussion? That's the first thing that springs to mind?
The obese are easier for the police to catch as they can’t or won’t run so quickly?
They might. Survive longer on prison rations?
They may not have as much need to steal as have a substantial calorific reserve.
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