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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham

so.....a lady has started a campaign to stop the Sun running page 3 girl images.

She claims that the majority of men she has spoken to dont even look at the page 3 girls.

She also noted that in the whole paper, the largest female image is that of a young (often just 16 years old) girl with her boobs out!

quite interesting actually. is it femminism as the girls choose to do the pics or is it objectifying women and adding to the growing numbers of body dysmorphia among young girls?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a beautiful picture of a delightful young lady to warm the cockles of ya heart.... Especially in these troubled times.....

Some people seriously need to get a life.... Or at least leave the rest of us to get on with ours....

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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham

just want to add that i havent seen a page 3 girl for years as the Sun has been banned throughout our family since the early 80's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd like to see pics of fit gents in newspapers wearing not a lot to warm me up on a cold day please!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How does she know what other people want to look at?

Has anyone started a petition against do-gooders minding their own business?

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By *nnebellWoman
over a year ago

somewhere

I think the age limit was put up to 18 a few years ago, no longer do you have images of 16 year old Sam Fox's or Katy Price's these days.

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By *upitersmileCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Can't say I really have an opinion one way or the other on this and I rarely read the sun. It's not like they are made to do get their boobs out. I don't really see any harm in it though....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the age limit was put up to 18 a few years ago, no longer do you have images of 16 year old Sam Fox's or Katy Price's these days."

18 is the legal minimum age fit anyone to appear naked or semi naked in any paper, magazine or 'adult' production film.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I'd like to see pics of fit gents in newspapers wearing not a lot to warm me up on a cold day please! "

didnt they used to run a page 7 fella as well?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd like to see pics of fit gents in newspapers wearing not a lot to warm me up on a cold day please!

didnt they used to run a page 7 fella as well?"

They did, wasn't as popular.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you don't like page 3 in the Sun, buy another paper!

I've just watched the woman on breakfast tv, it's a complete joke!

(@)(@) xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah you can't take topless photos of 16 or 17 year olds now, even with parental permission like was allowed before.

So the girls are all 18+, doing it of their own volition so if this campaigner doesn't want to see them, why doesn't she just not buy the sun.

Print media is doomed anyway.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

I'd sign the petition to stop it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldnt buy the Sun if you paid me, and i kind of think each to their own, but i think there is a problem with the casual sexualisation of young women.These papers are just left lying around and when children see them they wont make an adult assumption about context, which is why we as grown-ups should, it should be left as top shelf, adult stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many have tried and many have failed!

To be honest did we associate page 3 and body worries/eating disorders before the 21st century? No not really! If anyone or anybody should its the likes of the celebrities that whore themselves and their lives in these papers. I doubt many youngsters bother with newspapers in this day and age as we live in a world of social media. Porn is accesible to all with the click of a button.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It gets right on my tits when someone takes it upon him or herself to be offended on behalf of everyone else. If this stupid bint doesn't like Page 3 girls don't fookin look at them! She wouldn't go to a football match if she didn't like football would she. Silly cow.

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"I wouldnt buy the Sun if you paid me, and i kind of think each to their own, but i think there is a problem with the casual sexualisation of young women.These papers are just left lying around and when children see them they wont make an adult assumption about context, which is why we as grown-ups should, it should be left as top shelf, adult stuff."

Here Here! and when we take our children on holiday and go on any beach in europe we should blinfold them so we can protect there eyes/minds from topless bathers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldnt buy the Sun if you paid me, and i kind of think each to their own, but i think there is a problem with the casual sexualisation of young women.These papers are just left lying around and when children see them they wont make an adult assumption about context, which is why we as grown-ups should, it should be left as top shelf, adult stuff.

Here Here! and when we take our children on holiday and go on any beach in europe we should blinfold them so we can protect there eyes/minds from topless bathers "

the point is about context not nudity

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Ooooohh boobies, I'm getting all excited now

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By *ngelbiTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Dyserth, North Wales

I don't care about what's on page 3 of a paper I wouldn't wipe my bum with

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"I don't care about what's on page 3 of a paper I wouldn't wipe my bum with"

You would have done if you went on my nans outside toilet in the 70s

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

Surely you used the Echo like all good North Westerners.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"It gets right on my tits when someone takes it upon him or herself to be offended on behalf of everyone else. If this stupid bint doesn't like Page 3 girls don't fookin look at them! She wouldn't go to a football match if she didn't like football would she. Silly cow. "

I think that images of page three girls should be shown during children's programs.

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"Surely you used the Echo like all good North Westerners."

Usually the pink echo on a Sunday morning

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

Specially if your team lost.

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"Specially if your team lost."

Which is why it was allways in there. Was my grandads way of expressing his self towards the blues. think he threatened a few times to post it on to them rather than flush it away

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By *ngelbiTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Dyserth, North Wales


"I don't care about what's on page 3 of a paper I wouldn't wipe my bum with

You would have done if you went on my nans outside toilet in the 70s "

And they wonder why so many guys hang around public toilets nowadays lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Specially if your team lost.

Which is why it was allways in there. Was my grandads way of expressing his self towards the blues. think he threatened a few times to post it on to them rather than flush it away "

Harry. Caterick would have been happy to recieve that through his letter box. Did you ruffle the echo between your hands to soften it up. The main reason I'm posting is I've discovered a new word . Dysmorphia wow where's my dictionary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally i cant see what harm it does, page 3s been around for years and its not hurt anyone so far so why stop it now?

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Wouldnt ever buy the sun so doesnt matter to me but with the internet what difference will it make stopping it

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Used to work in a newsagents. Never liked how it was so easy to access by kids. And, if its not sexist, why isn't there a page 3 boy with his tackle out as easily accessible?

And yes, I know kids have smartphones and can access porn but that is a specious argument. We don't have to make it THAT easy!!

It's the 21st century ffs. Time for it to stop. It's a hang up from the 60s and 70s which had that same mindset towards women which prevailed when Savile, et al, were doing their predatory thing and getting away with it.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

If its not to shown in the press anymore, Can i put forward a motion for a 'fab page 3..'.

Ladies if you please...

Being the 21st century bloke, equal opportunities etc..

Lads please ...

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

well past it's sell by date

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so.....a lady has started a campaign to stop the Sun running page 3 girl images.

She claims that the majority of men she has spoken to dont even look at the page 3 girls.

She also noted that in the whole paper, the largest female image is that of a young (often just 16 years old) girl with her boobs out!

quite interesting actually. is it femminism as the girls choose to do the pics or is it objectifying women and adding to the growing numbers of body dysmorphia among young girls?"

Firstly...how many guys would admit to this woman that they did have a look? From the sounds of it she'd have made it clear she didn't approve before she did this little survey (of probably her husband, son, brother in law & dad!!).

I have no issue with Page 3 or anything like that. The women I have seen on Page 3 have always had realistic 'healthy' figures...slim but with shape.

If she does get her way though then will she be gunning for Heat magazine's 'Torso of the Week' next...can't be fair to allow all those men to be objectified if the guys aren't allowed to have a look at a slim pretty girl who will have to be over 18? x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It gets right on my tits when someone takes it upon him or herself to be offended on behalf of everyone else. If this stupid bint doesn't like Page 3 girls don't fookin look at them! She wouldn't go to a football match if she didn't like football would she. Silly cow. "

The voice of the sexist right rearing its head again-and the sexism is implicit in your choice of insult ie 'bint'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It gets right on my tits when someone takes it upon him or herself to be offended on behalf of everyone else. If this stupid bint doesn't like Page 3 girls don't fookin look at them! She wouldn't go to a football match if she didn't like football would she. Silly cow.

Fraid I agree, find it kind of shocking in this day and age when you really sit down and think about it

The voice of the sexist right rearing its head again-and the sexism is implicit in your choice of insult ie 'bint'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i dont mind have a little perv on page 3 xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think although i may be wrong the sun did do a page 4 or something of men but it never took off.

Is the sport still going as that's full of naked ladies yet nobodies moans?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Used to work in a newsagents. Never liked how it was so easy to access by kids. And, if its not sexist, why isn't there a page 3 boy with his tackle out as easily accessible?

And yes, I know kids have smartphones and can access porn but that is a specious argument. We don't have to make it THAT easy!!

It's the 21st century ffs. Time for it to stop. It's a hang up from the 60s and 70s which had that same mindset towards women which prevailed when Savile, et al, were doing their predatory thing and getting away with it."

Of course it is sexist.But with regard to your remarks concerning the 60s and the 70s, as someone who was very much a part of the counter-culture of that period, the attitudes you are talking about were being pushed out in those times. They came back with a vengeance in the eighties when the forces of reaction mounted their counter attack on the forces of progression. I think, incidentally, that the page 3 girl only appeared in 1980. She certainly wasn't there in 1977 when I was all over page 3!

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

I dont think they should be banned at all.

The world will be a much poorer place without their daily social and political insight....

'Susie, 32 GG from Newcastle says 'Saddam Hussein was a very very bad man''.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Sun is a vile rag that barely attempts to hide it's racist, homophobic and sexist slants on society. As View says Page 3 is well past it's sell by date. The fact that they continue to sexually objectify women to pander to their readers sums them up perfectly.

I find it odd that The Sun take such a strong _iew on paedophilia when as others have said it not so long ago had 16 year old girls topless, and even had a countdown to Charlotte Church's 16th birthday.

To me personally I don't need a campaign to ban page 3, I treat sun readers with a certain degree of disdain anyway and _iew the paper with total contempt and that will not change if there is a page 3 model or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although the debate of page 3 leaves me cold, I think they should give this woman what she wants....

Then instead of the paper showing a daily page 3 girl....they could show a daily image of all manner of everyday folk in a state of semi-nudity,,,

Hey I'd look.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally i cant see what harm it does, page 3s been around for years and its not hurt anyone so far so why stop it now?"

Well how do you know it hasn't done any harm? Have you read any studies?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would now be a good time to mention the "no sun readers, no tories, no coldplay fans" on our profile...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Sun is a vile rag that barely attempts to hide it's racist, homophobic and sexist slants on society. As View says Page 3 is well past it's sell by date. The fact that they continue to sexually objectify women to pander to their readers sums them up perfectly.

I find it odd that The Sun take such a strong _iew on paedophilia when as others have said it not so long ago had 16 year old girls topless, and even had a countdown to Charlotte Church's 16th birthday.

To me personally I don't need a campaign to ban page 3, I treat sun readers with a certain degree of disdain anyway and _iew the paper with total contempt and that will not change if there is a page 3 model or not."

I agree with you of course, but it isn't at all odd that The Sun shouts the loudest about paedophilia when it constantly objectivises women. The Right are always the most hypocritical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would now be a good time to mention the "no sun readers, no tories, no coldplay fans" on our profile..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally i cant see what harm it does, page 3s been around for years and its not hurt anyone so far so why stop it now?

Well how do you know it hasn't done any harm? Have you read any studies?"

Whether it's caused any direct harm will always be debatable but the inherent sexism and the objectification of women by the country's topselling newspaper is wrong and can only set back equality.

Out of interest, does anyone know if page 3 is a uniquely british phenomena or do the tabloids in other countries have similar?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm slightly torn on this issue.

Astute forum regulars may have noticed I get ever so slightly irritable over the objectification of women. Judging women on looks, and criticising those who don't measure up, also tends to irk me just a touch.

Ultimately though, why pick on The Sun? Objectification of women happens every day in so many ways, and is regarded so differently by individual people, it could never be legislated against.

Mainstream media and the internet are much more accessible to children and way more likely, IMO, to cause body dysmorphia. Are we to try to ban celebrities from being too thin?

Stopping Page 3 girls is such a small drop in the ocean that it almost seems like harassment of The Sun.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Used to work in a newsagents. Never liked how it was so easy to access by kids. And, if its not sexist, why isn't there a page 3 boy with his tackle out as easily accessible?

And yes, I know kids have smartphones and can access porn but that is a specious argument. We don't have to make it THAT easy!!

It's the 21st century ffs. Time for it to stop. It's a hang up from the 60s and 70s which had that same mindset towards women which prevailed when Savile, et al, were doing their predatory thing and getting away with it.

Of course it is sexist.But with regard to your remarks concerning the 60s and the 70s, as someone who was very much a part of the counter-culture of that period, the attitudes you are talking about were being pushed out in those times. They came back with a vengeance in the eighties when the forces of reaction mounted their counter attack on the forces of progression. I think, incidentally, that the page 3 girl only appeared in 1980. She certainly wasn't there in 1977 when I was all over page 3!"

The Sun are currently celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Page 3 girl. That makes it 1972. I remember them when I was a kid. And the forces of progression may well have been beginning in the 70s but as late as 79 I was putting up with sexist crap from male teachers about us female students. I was even told by my careers adviser to forget about going to uni. A girl like me would be better off learning secretarial skills.

I stand by what I said.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

i dont see the need for a campaign to stop page 3. If its not your kinda thing wouldnt it just be easier to buy a different paper ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How does she know what other people want to look at?

Has anyone started a petition against do-gooders minding their own business?"

unfortunatly the do-gooders banned people with free spirits, and the capacity to think and enjoy themselves from setting up a campaign against there small mindness,es

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wonder if the sun would investigate its own actions 20years ago and probably find much of whats been happening in the recent BBC issues on their own front door...

Of course I liked the page 3 growing up..i love womens boobs and pretty women...

However, the double standards do come to mind, men are being routinely objectified(to be sexy u have to have a gym body)-U might not see that in the Sun, but its spread elsewhere in womens magazines etc

anyway back to the sun or other tabloids..if they knew they could get away with fab styled pics, they fucking would...however...they'd rather just class us all as negative termed deviants...

hypocrisy and greed..thats all it is.

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

A girl recently threw herself under a train after accessing pro-anorexia and self harm websites.

This is just one of many headlines over recent years alerting us to the danger of pro-anorexia sites.

I did search for the same but involving page 3 images, couldn't find any.

Whilst I agree Page 3 is dated, I think we need to be focusing on bigger issues for our teens futures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How does she know what other people want to look at?

Has anyone started a petition against do-gooders minding their own business?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you were against page 3 wouldn't it just be easier to not buy the paper. Or do people have to force their morals and _iews on other people instead.

Myself? I don't but or read the sun so i don't really give a shit but i'm guessing it's probably harmless. Its a lot better than some of the front pages on the sport and they're on full _iew on the bottom shelf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so.....a lady has started a campaign to stop the Sun running page 3 girl images.

She claims that the majority of men she has spoken to dont even look at the page 3 girls.

She also noted that in the whole paper, the largest female image is that of a young (often just 16 years old) girl with her boobs out!

quite interesting actually. is it femminism as the girls choose to do the pics or is it objectifying women and adding to the growing numbers of body dysmorphia among young girls?"

So is she a jelous lesbian type thing then?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

I havent bought this rag since Hillsborough, i dont look at their online stuff either.

Page 3, i couldnt give a fuck....i spose the loose women do though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so.....a lady has started a campaign to stop the Sun running page 3 girl images.

She claims that the majority of men she has spoken to dont even look at the page 3 girls.

She also noted that in the whole paper, the largest female image is that of a young (often just 16 years old) girl with her boobs out!

quite interesting actually. is it femminism as the girls choose to do the pics or is it objectifying women and adding to the growing numbers of body dysmorphia among young girls?"

Seems familar to campaigning by woman called mary shitehouse or was it whitehouse lol.

End of day and until i hear evidence to contrary the ladies being photographed are happy to do it.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"i dont see the need for a campaign to stop page 3. If its not your kinda thing wouldnt it just be easier to buy a different paper ?"

The boobies do seem more suckable in the Daily Star

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Some lovely casual sexism in this thread :-/

Happy to see p3 scrapped. It's weird and objectifying.

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By *ayseanMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

The best solution as someone has previously said is to not buy the sun at all,its unfortunately the most popular paper so cant see them changing page 3,i never buy the sun anyway as i think its a joke paper,any paper that call innocent football fans murderer's should not still be in existance

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Boobies to football violence & murder all on one thread.

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By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle


"so.....a lady has started a campaign to stop the Sun running page 3 girl images.

She claims that the majority of men she has spoken to dont even look at the page 3 girls.

She also noted that in the whole paper, the largest female image is that of a young (often just 16 years old) girl with her boobs out!

quite interesting actually. is it femminism as the girls choose to do the pics or is it objectifying women and adding to the growing numbers of body dysmorphia among young girls?"

TBH I couldn't give a toss as I don't buy it.

However, if that's all this woman has to worry about then she should thank her lucky stars.

Some people have no home, no food, no means of finding either, they're trying to avoid abuse, running away from violent situations with their children, they're freezing unable to afford fuel bills...FFS

and she's concerned about a picture of some lass on the inside page of a rag.

Maybe she could direct her energy to somewhere that needs it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's the 21st century ffs. Time for it to stop. It's a hang up from the 60s and 70s which had that same mindset towards women which prevailed when Savile, et al, were doing their predatory thing and getting away with it."

Inserting a Savile comment as an indication that everything in the 60s and 70s had it's roots in paedophilia is doing that era a severe injustice.

The girls who appear on Page 3 are not forced to do it, they're not even coerced into it and they see it as a stepping stone to fame and fortune in showbiz. If they are happy taking their tops off and being photographed then who is to say they shouldn't do it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Used to work in a newsagents. Never liked how it was so easy to access by kids. And, if its not sexist, why isn't there a page 3 boy with his tackle out as easily accessible?

And yes, I know kids have smartphones and can access porn but that is a specious argument. We don't have to make it THAT easy!!

It's the 21st century ffs. Time for it to stop. It's a hang up from the 60s and 70s which had that same mindset towards women which prevailed when Savile, et al, were doing their predatory thing and getting away with it.

Of course it is sexist.But with regard to your remarks concerning the 60s and the 70s, as someone who was very much a part of the counter-culture of that period, the attitudes you are talking about were being pushed out in those times. They came back with a vengeance in the eighties when the forces of reaction mounted their counter attack on the forces of progression. I think, incidentally, that the page 3 girl only appeared in 1980. She certainly wasn't there in 1977 when I was all over page 3!"

On 17 November 1970, Sun editor Larry Lamb celebrated the tabloid's first anniversary by publishing a photograph of 20-year-old German model Stephanie Rahn in her "birthday suit." She was photographed from the side, sitting nude in a field with one of her breasts visible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good job she doesn't buybthe Sunday sport! She'd have a heart attack.

Theses girls see it as a route to other modelling and I guess it looks good on their cv.

Personally I don't mind it, but they're all too skinny forme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I find funny and slightly hypocritical, is the fact that the people talking out strongly on this subject have pictures of their wives on display doing far worse than any page 3 pose.

Ok, this is an adult site and not a daily rag, but anyone can find porn easier on the web than any newspaper, no matter what age, sex or _iews they may have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't read all the comments but I think it's more children, both girls and boys being subjected to it and thinking you can only be sexy if you're a size zero with massive boobs.

Each girl in page 3 makes that choice herself and that's fine by me, I've done a little glamour modelling myself before having children, but having a daughter, I do want her to be secure in her body image, so I can see it from both sides.

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By *ashful BazMan
over a year ago

poole dorset

Maria Whittaker was very nice.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"so.....a lady has started a campaign to stop the Sun running page 3 girl images.

She claims that the majority of men she has spoken to dont even look at the page 3 girls.

She also noted that in the whole paper, the largest female image is that of a young (often just 16 years old) girl with her boobs out!

quite interesting actually. is it femminism as the girls choose to do the pics or is it objectifying women and adding to the growing numbers of body dysmorphia among young girls?

TBH I couldn't give a toss as I don't buy it.

However, if that's all this woman has to worry about then she should thank her lucky stars.

Some people have no home, no food, no means of finding either, they're trying to avoid abuse, running away from violent situations with their children, they're freezing unable to afford fuel bills...FFS

and she's concerned about a picture of some lass on the inside page of a rag.

Maybe she could direct her energy to somewhere that needs it. "

She is worried about the wider implications of page 3. Body dismorphia, self harming, perhaps suicide. Not to mention the girls being led into harder, more extreme types of modelling etc

All this 'she should be worried about this that and the other' talk irritates me. What are YOU doing about these serious issues? Have you started any campaigns to help the homeless, hungry and cold of the nation?

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By *ayseanMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Boobies to football violence & murder all on one thread. "
thats what you get when you buy the sun,a truely shite paper lol

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"What I find funny and slightly hypocritical, is the fact that the people talking out strongly on this subject have pictures of their wives on display doing far worse than any page 3 pose.

Ok, this is an adult site and not a daily rag, but anyone can find porn easier on the web than any newspaper, no matter what age, sex or _iews they may have.

"

It's not hypocritical at all. The fact that you can find porn on the internet is irrelevant; page 3 normalises women as sexual objects. The message it gives is - here's everyday stuff: news, weather, sport, women taking their clothes off for men to look at.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a funny thing this thread, we have looked through all the comments and yes we do agree that the page three thing is a bit old hat but that's about it, it's hardly an issue to make your blood boil yes there will always be glamour photos and there will always be young girl and boys for that matter that think of it as a good way to make a living! There will always be young women starring in porn movies. But here we are on a swingers site with some very interesting comments about the rights and wrongs of breasts printed on paper, surely we should complain and police our own place more with the growing number of teenagers that seem to pop up in a place where the images and thoughts of a much more extreme nature are more than readily available? We all did naughty things when we were teenagers and probably heard of swinging and threesomes but it was a mentioned in hushed tones kind of affair, so how far do you take censorship? If boobs on paper become banned today how long would it be before our way of life becomes outlawed? Surely the easiest way to get something to stop is to vote with your feet and not buy what offends you? And in the end surely the daily sport is a far more offensive rag by far!!

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"What I find funny and slightly hypocritical, is the fact that the people talking out strongly on this subject have pictures of their wives on display doing far worse than any page 3 pose.

Ok, this is an adult site and not a daily rag, but anyone can find porn easier on the web than any newspaper, no matter what age, sex or _iews they may have.

It's not hypocritical at all. The fact that you can find porn on the internet is irrelevant; page 3 normalises women as sexual objects. The message it gives is - here's everyday stuff: news, weather, sport, women taking their clothes off for men to look at. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What I find funny and slightly hypocritical, is the fact that the people talking out strongly on this subject have pictures of their wives on display doing far worse than any page 3 pose.

Ok, this is an adult site and not a daily rag, but anyone can find porn easier on the web than any newspaper, no matter what age, sex or _iews they may have.

It's not hypocritical at all. The fact that you can find porn on the internet is irrelevant; page 3 normalises women as sexual objects. The message it gives is - here's everyday stuff: news, weather, sport, women taking their clothes off for men to look at. "

It's not a difficult concept is it? This is a swinging site where people are on here to meet for sex, the sun is a newspaper. You hardly need to be one of life's great thinkers to work out why one is a perfectly acceptable place to find picture of topless women and the other isn;t... Seriously would people think that it was appropriate for a TV news presenter to be topless? No of course not.

As for people saying just don't buy it, again spectacularly missing the point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some lovely casual sexism in this thread :-/

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It's not that casual though is it? Some of the attitudes and terms used on this thread are unbelievable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some lovely casual sexism in this thread :-/

It's not that casual though is it? Some of the attitudes and terms used on this thread are unbelievable."

And you seem surpised why?

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.


"If you don't like page 3 in the Sun, buy another paper!

I've just watched the woman on breakfast tv, it's a complete joke!

(@)(@) xxx"

that be too simple for her and some people on here!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some lovely casual sexism in this thread :-/

It's not that casual though is it? Some of the attitudes and terms used on this thread are unbelievable.

And you seem surpised why?"

I don't know. To be honest, these forums have long since made me realise that sexual liberation does not mean being liberal and open minded but this thread is still pretty depressing reading.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest we believe trying to ban it abit petty, whats next erotic art? porn? we look back in history and theres some wonderfull paintings and sculptors that are semi nude or naked so whats the difference?? the kama sultra shows graphic pics shall we bann that aswell,

Also like mentioned advertising lets ban all ads for purfumes aftershaves and many more, just look at the lynx ad as they make people look like sex symbols and are selling their products on top of sexuality.

Just stupid to be honest its not doing any arm its not victamizing anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some lovely casual sexism in this thread :-/

It's not that casual though is it? Some of the attitudes and terms used on this thread are unbelievable.

And you seem surpised why?

I don't know. To be honest, these forums have long since made me realise that sexual liberation does not mean being liberal and open minded but this thread is still pretty depressing reading."

Completely of tact but I just read your profile 50 shades the Da Vinci Code of erotic literature!!!

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.


"so.....a lady has started a campaign to stop the Sun running page 3 girl images.

She claims that the majority of men she has spoken to dont even look at the page 3 girls.

She also noted that in the whole paper, the largest female image is that of a young (often just 16 years old) girl with her boobs out!

quite interesting actually. is it femminism as the girls choose to do the pics or is it objectifying women and adding to the growing numbers of body dysmorphia among young girls?"

if not many people actually look at the page 3 according to her research,why try to ban page 3 girls?/.

she does not make sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hahhaha not that many look at page 3?- did they survey thousands of workmen?...seriously doubt that

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

Why not a campaign to ban the Sun scummy rag that it is.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"Some lovely casual sexism in this thread :-/

It's not that casual though is it? Some of the attitudes and terms used on this thread are unbelievable."

Well, I meant casual in the sense of unthinking, off-hand, not trivial. But yes, these forums can be as bad as anywhere else on the internet for sexism.

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.


"Why not a campaign to ban the Sun scummy rag that it is."

its so simple!,if you do not like the sun...do not buy it!.

its really not rocket science is it now?,but why stop the people that want to read it just because you have a bitch with the paper?.

i do not buy or read the red rag of a paper called the daily mirror, do i vote labour!,it's my choice!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I read the metro....I wank of at the science articles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a crap paper one of the worst, but having said that there must be people out there who buy it otherwise it wouldn't exsist, if we pride ourselves on the freedoms we enjoy in our society , then surely if its within the law who is this woman to try and get it banned!

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"Why not a campaign to ban the Sun scummy rag that it is.

its so simple!,if you do not like the sun...do not buy it!.

its really not rocket science is it now?,but why stop the people that want to read it just because you have a bitch with the paper?.

i do not buy or read the red rag of a paper called the daily mirror, do i vote labour!,it's my choice!."

I dont buy I never have and never will its hard to get the truth from any paper but that has to be among the worst if not THE worst for blatant lies and fairy stories.

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

I've always believed in a free press, and I'm against any kind of censorship.

If they print something you don't like, don't read it.

If they print something that's not true, is libelous or slanderous then they'll have to answer to the law of the land, just as you or I would.

I'm not a fan of The Sun, so I choose not to read it.

However, I'll never petition to censor it or any other rag

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Some lovely casual sexism in this thread :-/

It's not that casual though is it? Some of the attitudes and terms used on this thread are unbelievable.

Well, I meant casual in the sense of unthinking, off-hand, not trivial. But yes, these forums can be as bad as anywhere else on the internet for sexism. "

Worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The guys she asked were prob telling fibs!

Most guys don't admit they look at it!! But we all like to see what the weather is like.

(nipples)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The sun should be closed down for what they said about Hillsbrough they are a scummy newspaper i would not even wipe my arse on it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The sun should be closed down for what they said about Hillsbrough they are a scummy newspaper i would not even wipe my arse on it."

neither would I...I'd use a doc leaf

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.


"

I dont buy I never have and never will its hard to get the truth from any paper but that has to be among the worst if not THE worst for blatant lies and fairy stories."

i dont buy newspaper any more,my choice not too.

do you know of any honest journalists?,probaly only exist on local small newspapers when starting a career in journalism but then as they go national it is all about sales!.

i learned at a young age that enid blyton wrote fairy tales that were not true,its the same as national newspapers,read them but don't believe all you read.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

QUOTING Kate Moss from the Guardian just 3 days ago.....

also included a topless photograph, appeared in the Face magazine in 1990 and launched Moss's career, though two decades on she does not remember the shoot as a happy one.

"I see a 16-year-old now, and to ask her to take her clothes off would feel really weird," she says in an inter_iew with Vanity Fair. "But they were like: If you don't do it, then we're not going to book you again. So I'd lock myself in the toilet and cry and then come out and do it. I never felt very comfortable about it."

Moss also tells the magazine that she sought medical help for anxiety two years later. "Nobody takes care of you mentally. There's a massive pressure to do what you have to do."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"QUOTING Kate Moss from the Guardian just 3 days ago.....

also included a topless photograph, appeared in the Face magazine in 1990 and launched Moss's career, though two decades on she does not remember the shoot as a happy one.

"I see a 16-year-old now, and to ask her to take her clothes off would feel really weird," she says in an inter_iew with Vanity Fair. "But they were like: If you don't do it, then we're not going to book you again. So I'd lock myself in the toilet and cry and then come out and do it. I never felt very comfortable about it."

Moss also tells the magazine that she sought medical help for anxiety two years later. "Nobody takes care of you mentally. There's a massive pressure to do what you have to do.""

being rather new to photography, and I'm sure even lots of amateur/professional photographers would agree...I'd never imagine that many years ago anyone would be treated with dignity and respect...especially at a young woman."Get the tits out, do this do that,take ur money and fuck off...or...what U doing later?winkwink, I've lotsa "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"If you don't like page 3 in the Sun, buy another paper!

I've just watched the woman on breakfast tv, it's a complete joke!

(@)(@) xxx

that be too simple for her and some people on here!.

"

quite and those 'some' are close.....so very close.

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By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle


"The sun should be closed down for what they said about Hillsbrough they are a scummy newspaper i would not even wipe my arse on it.

neither would I...I'd use a doc leaf"

Would that be a Liverpooooool doc(ccck) leaf?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"Why not a campaign to ban the Sun scummy rag that it is."

Why not just exercise your right not to buy it yourself....instead of trying to control the reading choice of others?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Page 3 is fine.

It's the rest of The Sun that is disgusting and despicable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not a campaign to ban the Sun scummy rag that it is.

Why not just exercise your right not to buy it yourself....instead of trying to control the reading choice of others?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I dont buy I never have and never will its hard to get the truth from any paper but that has to be among the worst if not THE worst for blatant lies and fairy stories."

Agreed.

Although the mainstream media in general (that includes the TV news, not justs the tabloid papers) is out of control.

Instead of simply informing us, they feel they have the right to tell us all how we should think.

Personally, I don't buy any "news"papers, as I can find out the football results on the internet, but The Sun is definitely the smelliest turd in a big stinking bag of shit.

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"

I dont buy I never have and never will its hard to get the truth from any paper but that has to be among the worst if not THE worst for blatant lies and fairy stories.

Agreed.

Although the mainstream media in general (that includes the TV news, not justs the tabloid papers) is out of control.

Instead of simply informing us, they feel they have the right to tell us all how we should think.

Personally, I don't buy any "news"papers, as I can find out the football results on the internet, but The Sun is definitely the smelliest turd in a big stinking bag of shit. "

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"Why not a campaign to ban the Sun scummy rag that it is.

Why not just exercise your right not to buy it yourself....instead of trying to control the reading choice of others?

"

I dont wish to control the reading choice of others if anyone is stupid enough to buy that excuse for a paper then go ahead.

For the record i have not bought a paper for a long time now as they all seemed to follow the Suns lead and turned the news into a farce eg XFactor front page every Monday 2 soldiers killed little column inside somewhere.

Murdoch already controls the truth within his media empire the man is a dirty lying lowlife and a pathetic excuse for a human being.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why don't we all buy newspapers instead of comics? Why do people (especially women) buy the Sun? Please please stop and hopefully Murdoch might get the message that we don't want tits in newspapers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not a campaign to ban the Sun scummy rag that it is.

I dont wish to control the reading choice of others if anyone is stupid enough to buy that excuse for a paper then go ahead.

"

your quote at the top suggests you DO want to control what other people read, else you wouldn't be advocating a ban on a newspaper that millions read daily.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please please stop and hopefully Murdoch might get the message that we don't want tits in newspapers. "

.and you speak for all of us do you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I have never ever bought or read the Sun, and so it doesn't affect me whether girls wants to flash their boobs, or if people still want a page 3.

Personally can't see it does any harm.

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"Why not a campaign to ban the Sun scummy rag that it is.

I dont wish to control the reading choice of others if anyone is stupid enough to buy that excuse for a paper then go ahead.

your quote at the top suggests you DO want to control what other people read, else you wouldn't be advocating a ban on a newspaper that millions read daily."

It was just a throw away line I realy dont want to control what others read but I do wish there was some control over the way papers are allowed to print any made up stories and before you say there already is only a few very high profile stories are contested the majority of journalistic lies are let go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The funniest part of this thread is some people actually believe the sun is a newspaper.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I don't read the Daily Mail, I detest some of their features and headlines....

But I would fight for them to be able to carry on printing what they print, and for their readers to continue to be able to buy their rag.

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"The funniest part of this thread is some people actually believe the sun is a newspaper. "

True and if you insult it or Rupert the sacred god some above do seriously take the huff as watching other posts he has never done any wrong in their eyes.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

So when you've finished with the Sun newspaper....what's next on your book burning agenda?

Anything that doesn't fit in with your kind of thinking?

All sounds a bit 1930's Berlin to me...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The funniest part of this thread is some people actually believe the sun is a newspaper.

True and if you insult it or Rupert the sacred god some above do seriously take the huff as watching other posts he has never done any wrong in their eyes."

Much the same as devil worshippers see the acts of Satan. The Sun really isn't a serious newspaper if it can even be called one. Its there for people with easily manipulated minds who don't want to put too many miles on the brain.

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"So when you've finished with the Sun newspaper....what's next on your book burning agenda?

Anything that doesn't fit in with your kind of thinking?

All sounds a bit 1930's Berlin to me..."

And how can you compare a tongue in cheek line to 1930s Berlin di you not read anythigng else I wrote?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"The funniest part of this thread is some people actually believe the sun is a newspaper.

True and if you insult it or Rupert the sacred god some above do seriously take the huff as watching other posts he has never done any wrong in their eyes.

Much the same as devil worshippers see the acts of Satan. The Sun really isn't a serious newspaper if it can even be called one. Its there for people with easily manipulated minds who don't want to put too many miles on the brain. "

But would you choose to ban it?

Or alternatively leave those who choose to read it to get on with living their life as they choose to?

I'd choose not to read it myself, but what others choose to do is entirely up to them.....surely?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"So when you've finished with the Sun newspaper....what's next on your book burning agenda?

Anything that doesn't fit in with your kind of thinking?

All sounds a bit 1930's Berlin to me...

And how can you compare a tongue in cheek line to 1930s Berlin di you not read anythigng else I wrote?"

I think very little of what you write is 'tongue in cheek', it's your right to have your own beliefs but it's no ones right to dictate to others what they should be allowed to read.

And that is very 1930's Berlin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The funniest part of this thread is some people actually believe the sun is a newspaper.

True and if you insult it or Rupert the sacred god some above do seriously take the huff as watching other posts he has never done any wrong in their eyes.

Much the same as devil worshippers see the acts of Satan. The Sun really isn't a serious newspaper if it can even be called one. Its there for people with easily manipulated minds who don't want to put too many miles on the brain.

But would you choose to ban it?

Or alternatively leave those who choose to read it to get on with living their life as they choose to?

I'd choose not to read it myself, but what others choose to do is entirely up to them.....surely?"

Hell no I wouldn't ban it as its the only source of anything close to politics and social awareness for some even if many of the facts it portraits are inaccurate. I don't take it seriously personally but its aimed at a section of society that isn't me but I wouldn't deprive them of the pleaser as I wouldn't try to get Viz or Batman comics banned. If it entertains some then fair enough but its when they take the papers comments as facts it worries me just a little.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"The funniest part of this thread is some people actually believe the sun is a newspaper.

True and if you insult it or Rupert the sacred god some above do seriously take the huff as watching other posts he has never done any wrong in their eyes.

Much the same as devil worshippers see the acts of Satan. The Sun really isn't a serious newspaper if it can even be called one. Its there for people with easily manipulated minds who don't want to put too many miles on the brain.

But would you choose to ban it?

Or alternatively leave those who choose to read it to get on with living their life as they choose to?

I'd choose not to read it myself, but what others choose to do is entirely up to them.....surely?

Hell no I wouldn't ban it as its the only source of anything close to politics and social awareness for some even if many of the facts it portraits are inaccurate. I don't take it seriously personally but its aimed at a section of society that isn't me but I wouldn't deprive them of the pleaser as I wouldn't try to get Viz or Batman comics banned. If it entertains some then fair enough but its when they take the papers comments as facts it worries me just a little. "

I agree totally with that....

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"So when you've finished with the Sun newspaper....what's next on your book burning agenda?

Anything that doesn't fit in with your kind of thinking?

All sounds a bit 1930's Berlin to me...

And how can you compare a tongue in cheek line to 1930s Berlin di you not read anythigng else I wrote?

I think very little of what you write is 'tongue in cheek', it's your right to have your own beliefs but it's no ones right to dictate to others what they should be allowed to read.

And that is very 1930's Berlin"

So now I am a stuanch Nazi for that little line

Are you a Sun reporter by any chance as that is just the kind of nonsense they can make up out of nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can someone keep me a breast of developments on this please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its there for people with easily manipulated minds who don't want to put too many miles on the brain. "

...and people who make ill-informed generalisations about millions of people read what?

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

Oh and page 3 is the only page of the Sun I would vote to keep.

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over a year ago


"Its there for people with easily manipulated minds who don't want to put too many miles on the brain.

...and people who make ill-informed generalisations about millions of people read what? "

I think its far from ill-informed generalisations anyone who really thinks that the sun has any intellectual properties is sadly misguided. It has a target demographic, it avoids using big words, most of its content is biased and isn't aimed to tax the brain cells and lets face it news international and its ex sister paper TNOTW shed a lot of light on what they think of the general public. I think the ill-informed tag fits the publications readers well though as in general that's what they are if they take information within it as factual.

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over a year ago


"Its there for people with easily manipulated minds who don't want to put too many miles on the brain.

...and people who make ill-informed generalisations about millions of people read what?

I think its far from ill-informed generalisations anyone who really thinks that the sun has any intellectual properties is sadly misguided. It has a target demographic, it avoids using big words, most of its content is biased and isn't aimed to tax the brain cells and lets face it news international and its ex sister paper TNOTW shed a lot of light on what they think of the general public. I think the ill-informed tag fits the publications readers well though as in general that's what they are if they take information within it as factual. "

You have wrongly assumed that all readers of The Sun read all of the content within it. From politics, to celeb shagathons, to topical issues of the day, to tv soap trivia, The Sun covers quite a broad range of subjects and as someone who buys The Sun I can tell you that I do not read all of it. I buy it for the back five pages as The Sun's sports reporting is second to none. Their sports journalists have demonstrated time and again over the years that they have the most acute senses in football reporting and a network of contacts that confirms whether a story is genuine or not.

I'm not talking about Ashley Cole banging some bint or Rooney shagging a prossie. I'm talking about trasnfer rumours the Sun's sports writers get to hear about long before anyone else. It is for that reason alone I buy the Sun (or read it online if I haven't bought it). The rest of it nothing more than a snapshot of what's going on in the world, and if it's a quiet news day for The Sun then it's a quiet news day for all the others too, and then they do what gets most people's cages rattling - they make it up, but then so do all the others (with the exception of maybe The Times/FT).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh and page 3 is the only page of the Sun I would vote to keep. "

That really is the best way to sum up this argument. The tits are the least offensive thing in the tawdry sleazefest.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I don't read the Daily Mail, I detest some of their features and headlines....

But I would fight for them to be able to carry on printing what they print, and for their readers to continue to be able to buy their rag.

"

agreed..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its there for people with easily manipulated minds who don't want to put too many miles on the brain.

...and people who make ill-informed generalisations about millions of people read what?

I think its far from ill-informed generalisations anyone who really thinks that the sun has any intellectual properties is sadly misguided. It has a target demographic, it avoids using big words, most of its content is biased and isn't aimed to tax the brain cells and lets face it news international and its ex sister paper TNOTW shed a lot of light on what they think of the general public. I think the ill-informed tag fits the publications readers well though as in general that's what they are if they take information within it as factual.

You have wrongly assumed that all readers of The Sun read all of the content within it. From politics, to celeb shagathons, to topical issues of the day, to tv soap trivia, The Sun covers quite a broad range of subjects and as someone who buys The Sun I can tell you that I do not read all of it. I buy it for the back five pages as The Sun's sports reporting is second to none. Their sports journalists have demonstrated time and again over the years that they have the most acute senses in football reporting and a network of contacts that confirms whether a story is genuine or not.

I'm not talking about Ashley Cole banging some bint or Rooney shagging a prossie. I'm talking about trasnfer rumours the Sun's sports writers get to hear about long before anyone else. It is for that reason alone I buy the Sun (or read it online if I haven't bought it). The rest of it nothing more than a snapshot of what's going on in the world, and if it's a quiet news day for The Sun then it's a quiet news day for all the others too, and then they do what gets most people's cages rattling - they make it up, but then so do all the others (with the exception of maybe The Times/FT)."

All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough. For anyone to even think they are good reporters really need to sit on it rather than talk out of it as they clearly don't and its plainly insulting to many insinuating they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough. For anyone to even think they are good reporters really need to sit on it rather than talk out of it as they clearly don't and its plainly insulting to many insinuating they do. "

The inquiry has identified who was responsible for those lies and the Sun's main feature writers swallowed the lies and printed them, with the Editor's agreement. It was not the sports writers, who have proven themselves to be the best networked football writers in the business.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh and page 3 is the only page of the Sun I would vote to keep. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough. For anyone to even think they are good reporters really need to sit on it rather than talk out of it as they clearly don't and its plainly insulting to many insinuating they do.

The inquiry has identified who was responsible for those lies and the Sun's main feature writers swallowed the lies and printed them, with the Editor's agreement. It was not the sports writers, who have proven themselves to be the best networked football writers in the business."

Proven nothing apart from writing up what they choose to believe for content in a trash rag. Mind some people will believe anyone telling them that they are the best as some people are just naturally gullible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd miss the very informed political comment that they have for the _iewers/readers, surprisingly well informed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough. For anyone to even think they are good reporters really need to sit on it rather than talk out of it as they clearly don't and its plainly insulting to many insinuating they do.

The inquiry has identified who was responsible for those lies and the Sun's main feature writers swallowed the lies and printed them, with the Editor's agreement. It was not the sports writers, who have proven themselves to be the best networked football writers in the business.

Proven nothing apart from writing up what they choose to believe for content in a trash rag. Mind some people will believe anyone telling them that they are the best as some people are just naturally gullible. "

I've read the sports section in The Sun for years. By your own admission you haven't read it for years. I think I am in the better position to know how accurate the sports writers for The Sun are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To Sum it All up.. - Anyone Will Argue about Anything - on a Keyboard !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough. For anyone to even think they are good reporters really need to sit on it rather than talk out of it as they clearly don't and its plainly insulting to many insinuating they do.

The inquiry has identified who was responsible for those lies and the Sun's main feature writers swallowed the lies and printed them, with the Editor's agreement. It was not the sports writers, who have proven themselves to be the best networked football writers in the business.

Proven nothing apart from writing up what they choose to believe for content in a trash rag. Mind some people will believe anyone telling them that they are the best as some people are just naturally gullible.

I've read the sports section in The Sun for years. By your own admission you haven't read it for years. I think I am in the better position to know how accurate the sports writers for The Sun are."

By my own admission? Where????

I think you are pretty much dreaming things just like your rags journalists. I guess years of factless reading have paid their toll.

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over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough.

...

By my own admission? Where????

"

Or are you in the habit of reading things that disgust you just so you can be disgusted even more?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough.

...

By my own admission? Where????

Or are you in the habit of reading things that disgust you just so you can be disgusted even more? "

By my own admission you said so where? Come on show me where as your comment is a blatant lie!

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By *histler21Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

I have no opinion to express - never having bought it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough.

...

By my own admission? Where????

Or are you in the habit of reading things that disgust you just so you can be disgusted even more?

By my own admission you said so where? Come on show me where as your comment is a blatant lie! "

So you do buy it then. How else would you know how inaccurate it's reporting is huh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough.

...

By my own admission? Where????

Or are you in the habit of reading things that disgust you just so you can be disgusted even more?

By my own admission you said so where? Come on show me where as your comment is a blatant lie!

So you do buy it then. How else would you know how inaccurate it's reporting is huh?"

I asked you a question about you comment "by your own admission" so where?

The comment is a blatant lie on your behalf, back up your words or apologise for lying if you have any integrity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough.

...

By my own admission? Where????

Or are you in the habit of reading things that disgust you just so you can be disgusted even more?

By my own admission you said so where? Come on show me where as your comment is a blatant lie!

So you do buy it then. How else would you know how inaccurate it's reporting is huh?

I asked you a question about you comment "by your own admission" so where?

The comment is a blatant lie on your behalf, back up your words or apologise for lying if you have any integrity."

If you are so against the Sun because of the Hillsborough tragedy then it makes sense that you don't by it. That is 'by your own admission'. Refute or confirm: do you buy The Sun? because if you don't buy it it shouldn't make one jot of difference to you what's printed within it, either Page 3 or the Sports coverage (which I still maintain is the best football coverage in the newspaper business)

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough.

...

By my own admission? Where????

Or are you in the habit of reading things that disgust you just so you can be disgusted even more? "

Wishy get over your Kelvin C*nt mack'Im a twat' enzie fixation! Youre looking a wee bit silly defending someone who has already held his hands up to supposedly beng spoon fed absolute bollocks about Hllsborough

Its obvious from your posts you do not like scousers, but have a bit of decorum, and admit you were wrong about Hilsboroiugh, the same as your beloved paper was. Just try and get over the whole man u v liverpool thing. Hillsborough was/IS about football, not rivalries, so get over yourself, like Fergie did!

Back to OP. The page 3 doesnt bother me, as obviously, I do not buy the scum, and also, if it was n the Independant, it still wouldnt bother me, as these girls have choices. If I was young and had a great figure, yes I'd consider it.

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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" the Sports coverage (which I still maintain is the best football coverage in the newspaper business)"
. Have you actually read every newspaper that does football reports or even watched MOTD?

You just want to talk pure bollocks about liverpool.

At least I have the grace to acknowledge man u f they have done well. Take off the fergie glasses Wishy and get into the real world of football!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wishy get over your Kelvin C*nt mack'Im a twat' enzie fixation! Youre looking a wee bit silly defending someone who has already held his hands up to supposedly beng spoon fed absolute bollocks about Hllsborough

Its obvious from your posts you do not like scousers, but have a bit of decorum, and admit you were wrong about Hilsboroiugh, the same as your beloved paper was. Just try and get over the whole man u v liverpool thing. Hillsborough was/IS about football, not rivalries, so get over yourself, like Fergie did!"

I only know one scouser personally, and he lives with my ex-wife and is a pretty decent chap. I've been to Liverpool once and never had a reason to go there again. I couldn't give a toss about the city but neither do I wish it to fall into the sea.

As for Hillsborough, I weatched it unfolding on TV at the time, and at that time I was a lot younger and didn't read any newspaper so I have no recollection of what The Sun printed about it, nor any other newspaper, so please get off your high horse when you clearly know absolutely nothing about me. Ta.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" the Sports coverage (which I still maintain is the best football coverage in the newspaper business). Have you actually read every newspaper that does football reports or even watched MOTD?

You just want to talk pure bollocks about liverpool.

At least I have the grace to acknowledge man u f they have done well. Take off the fergie glasses Wishy and get into the real world of football!"

You raised Liverpool on this thread, not I.

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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"I have no opinion to express - never having bought it."
as I recall Whistler, you too seemed to soak up the press in regards to Hillsborough and blamed the Liverpool fans, if. Am wrong, I so apologise.

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over a year ago


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough.

...

By my own admission? Where????

Or are you in the habit of reading things that disgust you just so you can be disgusted even more?

By my own admission you said so where? Come on show me where as your comment is a blatant lie!

So you do buy it then. How else would you know how inaccurate it's reporting is huh?

I asked you a question about you comment "by your own admission" so where?

The comment is a blatant lie on your behalf, back up your words or apologise for lying if you have any integrity.

If you are so against the Sun because of the Hillsborough tragedy then it makes sense that you don't by it. That is 'by your own admission'. Refute or confirm: do you buy The Sun? because if you don't buy it it shouldn't make one jot of difference to you what's printed within it, either Page 3 or the Sports coverage (which I still maintain is the best football coverage in the newspaper business)"

I think its really time you grew some as you are looking incredibly foolish. You blatantly lied with your "by your own admission" which left you read faced as its a lie as I didn't. I find it incredible you say you read this paper but struggle to read this thread which is far shorter and still fail to take in all the details.

Read the facts of the thread please, get a child to help you if you are struggling and stop lying about what people say as its puerile at best.

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough.

...

By my own admission? Where????

Or are you in the habit of reading things that disgust you just so you can be disgusted even more?

By my own admission you said so where? Come on show me where as your comment is a blatant lie!

So you do buy it then. How else would you know how inaccurate it's reporting is huh?

I asked you a question about you comment "by your own admission" so where?

The comment is a blatant lie on your behalf, back up your words or apologise for lying if you have any integrity.

If you are so against the Sun because of the Hillsborough tragedy then it makes sense that you don't by it. That is 'by your own admission'. Refute or confirm: do you buy The Sun? because if you don't buy it it shouldn't make one jot of difference to you what's printed within it, either Page 3 or the Sports coverage (which I still maintain is the best football coverage in the newspaper business)"

Beleve this quote shows you quotiing Hillsborough and the scum, not me!

Get your facst rght.

Also, look at your previous posts regardng the scum n Hillsborough!

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"All I have to say about sun reporters is Hillsborough.

...

By my own admission? Where????

Or are you in the habit of reading things that disgust you just so you can be disgusted even more?

By my own admission you said so where? Come on show me where as your comment is a blatant lie!

So you do buy it then. How else would you know how inaccurate it's reporting is huh?

I asked you a question about you comment "by your own admission" so where?

The comment is a blatant lie on your behalf, back up your words or apologise for lying if you have any integrity.

If you are so against the Sun because of the Hillsborough tragedy then it makes sense that you don't by it. That is 'by your own admission'. Refute or confirm: do you buy The Sun? because if you don't buy it it shouldn't make one jot of difference to you what's printed within it, either Page 3 or the Sports coverage (which I still maintain is the best football coverage in the newspaper business)

I think its really time you grew some as you are looking incredibly foolish. You blatantly lied with your "by your own admission" which left you read faced as its a lie as I didn't. I find it incredible you say you read this paper but struggle to read this thread which is far shorter and still fail to take in all the details.

Read the facts of the thread please, get a child to help you if you are struggling and stop lying about what people say as its puerile at best. "

Well said

Some people cant see the woods for the trees!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Beleve this quote shows you quotiing Hillsborough and the scum, not me!

Get your facst rght.

Also, look at your previous posts regardng the scum n Hillsborough!"

Sheesh!

Ok, basic English lesson.

Context: a single word does not a quotation make. Taking something 'out of context' is what you have done.

Referring to 'Hillsborough' without going into detail about the events still isn't a quotation. It is a mention only. A reference, no less.

I have stated that I believe The Sun's sports coverage (for all sports but mainly football, which includes more than articles about Manchester United or Liverpool, or Chelsea, or Arsenal, or Man City.. can you see a pattern emerging here?) ... is second to none in the sports reporting part of the newspaper business. The Sun's writers have accurately printed major transfer movements long before their competitors.

Now, try and put aside your personal feelings about The Sun and understand basic English.

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over a year ago

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"

Beleve this quote shows you quotiing Hillsborough and the scum, not me!

Get your facst rght.

Also, look at your previous posts regardng the scum n Hillsborough!

Sheesh!

Ok, basic English lesson.

Context: a single word does not a quotation make. Taking something 'out of context' is what you have done.

Referring to 'Hillsborough' without going into detail about the events still isn't a quotation. It is a mention only. A reference, no less.

I have stated that I believe The Sun's sports coverage (for all sports but mainly football, which includes more than articles about Manchester United or Liverpool, or Chelsea, or Arsenal, or Man City.. can you see a pattern emerging here?) ... is second to none in the sports reporting part of the newspaper business. The Sun's writers have accurately printed major transfer movements long before their competitors.

Now, try and put aside your personal feelings about The Sun and understand basic English."

Having done a forum search on Hilsbrough I was actually sickened by some of your comments. It says a lot and reading this thread with interest I really don't see why you have lied about Monte's comments. If life is so bad home wise then there are more productive things you could do rather than on line abuse.

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"

Beleve this quote shows you quotiing Hillsborough and the scum, not me!

Get your facst rght.

Also, look at your previous posts regardng the scum n Hillsborough!

Sheesh!

Ok, basic English lesson.

Context: a single word does not a quotation make. Taking something 'out of context' is what you have done.

Referring to 'Hillsborough' without going into detail about the events still isn't a quotation. It is a mention only. A reference, no less.

I have stated that I believe The Sun's sports coverage (for all sports but mainly football, which includes more than articles about Manchester United or Liverpool, or Chelsea, or Arsenal, or Man City.. can you see a pattern emerging here?) ... is second to none in the sports reporting part of the newspaper business. The Sun's writers have accurately printed major transfer movements long before their competitors.

Now, try and put aside your personal feelings about The Sun and understand basic English."

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"

Beleve this quote shows you quotiing Hillsborough and the scum, not me!

Get your facst rght.

Also, look at your previous posts regardng the scum n Hillsborough!

Sheesh!

Ok, basic English lesson.

Context: a single word does not a quotation make. Taking something 'out of context' is what you have done.

Referring to 'Hillsborough' without going into detail about the events still isn't a quotation. It is a mention only. A reference, no less.

I have stated that I believe The Sun's sports coverage (for all sports but mainly football, which includes more than articles about Manchester United or Liverpool, or Chelsea, or Arsenal, or Man City.. can you see a pattern emerging here?) ... is second to none in the sports reporting part of the newspaper business. The Sun's writers have accurately printed major transfer movements long before their competitors.

Now, try and put aside your personal feelings about The Sun and understand basic English."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

If life is so bad home wise then there are more productive things you could do rather than on line abuse. "

You nothing of my home life. Mentioning it is a form of bullying (I'm too thickskinned to be affected by it fortunately), so please, if you must join in the 'debate' keep my personal life out of it. Ta.

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"

Beleve this quote shows you quotiing Hillsborough and the scum, not me!

Get your facst rght.

Also, look at your previous posts regardng the scum n Hillsborough!

Sheesh!

Ok, basic English lesson.

Context: a single word does not a quotation make. Taking something 'out of context' is what you have done.

Referring to 'Hillsborough' without going into detail about the events still isn't a quotation. It is a mention only. A reference, no less.

I have stated that I believe The Sun's sports coverage (for all sports but mainly football, which includes more than articles about Manchester United or Liverpool, or Chelsea, or Arsenal, or Man City.. can you see a pattern emerging here?) ... is second to none in the sports reporting part of the newspaper business. The Sun's writers have accurately printed major transfer movements long before their competitors.

Now, try and put aside your personal feelings about The Sun and understand basic English."
. Far from out of context. As I said, look at your previous posts about the Scum/ Hillsborough/scousers/Liverpool etc.

Do me a favour and look at your previous posts on the Scum etc.

I am well qualfied in understanding English, ta very much, so dont try and patroniise me. Oh, I also have the paperwork to prove it. Unlike you, obvously, who sticks to the pure shite the scum pours out. Have fun, I am not in the mood for you or others to try and patronise me.

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"

Beleve this quote shows you quotiing Hillsborough and the scum, not me!

Get your facst rght.

Also, look at your previous posts regardng the scum n Hillsborough!

Sheesh!

Ok, basic English lesson.

Context: a single word does not a quotation make. Taking something 'out of context' is what you have done.

Referring to 'Hillsborough' without going into detail about the events still isn't a quotation. It is a mention only. A reference, no less.

I have stated that I believe The Sun's sports coverage (for all sports but mainly football, which includes more than articles about Manchester United or Liverpool, or Chelsea, or Arsenal, or Man City.. can you see a pattern emerging here?) ... is second to none in the sports reporting part of the newspaper business. The Sun's writers have accurately printed major transfer movements long before their competitors.

Now, try and put aside your personal feelings about The Sun and understand basic English.

Having done a forum search on Hilsbrough I was actually sickened by some of your comments. It says a lot and reading this thread with interest I really don't see why you have lied about Monte's comments. If life is so bad home wise then there are more productive things you could do rather than on line abuse. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That was a different thread and a different discussion. You raised Liverpool in this thread, not me. I didn't raise the subject of Hillsborough either. I said I believed the Sun's sports writers to be the best in the business, and that's all I said.

The Sun also has the best tits in the business too. And that's what THIS thread is about. Page 3.

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"

Beleve this quote shows you quotiing Hillsborough and the scum, not me!

Get your facst rght.

Also, look at your previous posts regardng the scum n Hillsborough!

Sheesh!

Ok, basic English lesson.

Context: a single word does not a quotation make. Taking something 'out of context' is what you have done.

Referring to 'Hillsborough' without going into detail about the events still isn't a quotation. It is a mention only. A reference, no less.

I have stated that I believe The Sun's sports coverage (for all sports but mainly football, which includes more than articles about Manchester United or Liverpool, or Chelsea, or Arsenal, or Man City.. can you see a pattern emerging here?) ... is second to none in the sports reporting part of the newspaper business. The Sun's writers have accurately printed major transfer movements long before their competitors.

Now, try and put aside your personal feelings about The Sun and understand basic English.

Having done a forum search on Hilsbrough I was actually sickened by some of your comments. It says a lot and reading this thread with interest I really don't see why you have lied about Monte's comments. If life is so bad home wise then there are more productive things you could do rather than on line abuse. "
oh Raymond, Wishy is an avd Sun reader, who cant stand Scousers. If I didnt know any better, he'd be the swngng verson of that t*at mckenzie!

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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"That was a different thread and a different discussion. You raised Liverpool in this thread, not me. I didn't raise the subject of Hillsborough either. I said I believed the Sun's sports writers to be the best in the business, and that's all I said.

The Sun also has the best tits in the business too. And that's what THIS thread is about. Page 3."

Hmmm dont think it was me who rased Hllsborough.

Check your facts before accusing others! Oh thats right, you are a scum fan/reader

Get your facts right!

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over a year ago


"

If life is so bad home wise then there are more productive things you could do rather than on line abuse.

You nothing of my home life. Mentioning it is a form of bullying (I'm too thickskinned to be affected by it fortunately), so please, if you must join in the 'debate' keep my personal life out of it. Ta."

And what is lying about what someone else has said?

I am still waiting for you to find where I said it or apologise neither of which you are able to do. If you are looking for a bully find a mirror it may help.

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over a year ago


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Hmmm dont think it was me who rased Hllsborough.

Check your facts before accusing others! Oh thats right, you are a scum fan/reader

Get your facts right!"

...and what was it you accused Whistler of, without being actually certain he was guilty of it, to the extent that you apologised before he even got the chance to correct you!

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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Hmmm dont think it was me who rased Hllsborough.

Check your facts before accusing others! Oh thats right, you are a scum fan/reader

Get your facts right!

...and what was it you accused Whistler of, without being actually certain he was guilty of it, to the extent that you apologised before he even got the chance to correct you! "

Try reading his previous posts then

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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If life is so bad home wise then there are more productive things you could do rather than on line abuse.

You nothing of my home life. Mentioning it is a form of bullying (I'm too thickskinned to be affected by it fortunately), so please, if you must join in the 'debate' keep my personal life out of it. Ta.

And what is lying about what someone else has said?

I am still waiting for you to find where I said it or apologise neither of which you are able to do. If you are looking for a bully find a mirror it may help. "

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

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Hmmm dont think it was me who rased Hllsborough.

Check your facts before accusing others! Oh thats right, you are a scum fan/reader

Get your facts right!

...and what was it you accused Whistler of, without being actually certain he was guilty of it, to the extent that you apologised before he even got the chance to correct you! "

And dont try that I am bullying you or accusing me of bullying Wishy.

It may have worked on others, but I could also interprate you saying all the above to bully me!

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over a year ago


"I have no opinion to express - never having bought it.

as I recall Whistler, you too seemed to soak up the press in regards to Hillsborough and blamed the Liverpool fans, if. Am wrong, I so apologise."

I'm not bullying you. I'm quoting you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Hmmm dont think it was me who rased Hllsborough.

Check your facts before accusing others! Oh thats right, you are a scum fan/reader

Get your facts right!

...and what was it you accused Whistler of, without being actually certain he was guilty of it, to the extent that you apologised before he even got the chance to correct you!

And dont try that I am bullying you or accusing me of bullying Wishy.

It may have worked on others, but I could also interprate you saying all the above to bully me!"

Well if you were to ask me it was an intimidating comment and a desperate attempt to climb out of a hole. I have half a mind to believe his comments are fabrications after being on the receiving end or untruthful remarks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Well if you were to ask me it was an intimidating comment and a desperate attempt to climb out of a hole. I have half a mind to believe his comments are fabrications after being on the receiving end or untruthful remarks. "

Well, we didn't ask you. And it was a quote. She posted it, I quoted it. That's how forums work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no opinion to express - never having bought it.

as I recall Whistler, you too seemed to soak up the press in regards to Hillsborough and blamed the Liverpool fans, if. Am wrong, I so apologise.

I'm not bullying you. I'm quoting you."

No its pretty much bullying but if you want to quote how about trying to quote where I commented on what I read and don't. You could even make something up if you want to save face.

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