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"Didn't London twice vote Boris Johnson as Mayor ?  "Touché 
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"I think it’s really insulting the way people talk about Londoners sometimes. Like you say, OP, beautifully might I add, there’s so much shit here. When I look at my friends, the gorgeous innocent young Black boys that they were, and where life has taken them and the shit their mothers have struggled through and I hear people talk shit about London because we talk some type of way I just want to shake them. We’re not the bad guys lol. And then you make it and grow up and realise Living in London is mad because you can pay £1200 for rent and the same if not more in childcare costs alone and you’re super happy because your London weighting works out to an extra £150 a month more than your colleagues. Yay. I vote Labour because I’m a champagne socialist. We don’t know poverty here. Yay! "Right!  | |||
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"Well said MGC. I’ve given up being bothered by what others outside of London think of how the capital lives & the supposed riches it has. Many have not stepped foot away from the central tourist trap and seen the true life of the capital, culturally or financially. " Thanks. As you can see I'm still well and truly bothered. | |||
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"Well said MGC. I’ve given up being bothered by what others outside of London think of how the capital lives & the supposed riches it has. Many have not stepped foot away from the central tourist trap and seen the true life of the capital, culturally or financially. Thanks. As you can see I'm still well and truly bothered. "Have a snickers | |||
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"Well said MGC. I’ve given up being bothered by what others outside of London think of how the capital lives & the supposed riches it has. Many have not stepped foot away from the central tourist trap and seen the true life of the capital, culturally or financially. Thanks. As you can see I'm still well and truly bothered.
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"I am a Londoner - probably grew up on the same Hounslow council estate that one of the above commenters mentioned. Moved out of London 20+ years ago and was shocked at how everything on the tv - news etc - suddenly seemed so London centric. When I lived in London it was normal and suddenly I realised there was a whole country out there that really didn’t appear on TV. It didn’t reflect the life I was living. I work in London regularly and just look at the difference in basic services - transport etc - compared to Gloucestershire. London has far more spent on it. London is different to the rest of the country. I don’t think it is the enemy but that difference is manifest." That's interesting. There is much more mass transport here for sure. I wonder if that's more cost effective due to population. A 6th of the population lives here does it have more than a 6th of the infrastructure I'd guess yes, but I don't know. Could be favouritism as you imply. Not sure I agree with the point you make about TV, but that might be my viewing choices. Cop shows I watch are all set in the North. Gangsters in Birmingham, murder in Wales. | |||
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"Essex Kent and Sussex is full of people that love that there London so much they couldn't wait to get the hell out" The interesting part about that diaspora is their offspring are moving back to London and becoming first time buyers in places like Peckham using the money their parents saved by moving out as help with a deposit. | |||
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"I am a Londoner - probably grew up on the same Hounslow council estate that one of the above commenters mentioned. Moved out of London 20+ years ago and was shocked at how everything on the tv - news etc - suddenly seemed so London centric. When I lived in London it was normal and suddenly I realised there was a whole country out there that really didn’t appear on TV. It didn’t reflect the life I was living. I work in London regularly and just look at the difference in basic services - transport etc - compared to Gloucestershire. London has far more spent on it. London is different to the rest of the country. I don’t think it is the enemy but that difference is manifest. That's interesting. There is much more mass transport here for sure. I wonder if that's more cost effective due to population. A 6th of the population lives here does it have more than a 6th of the infrastructure I'd guess yes, but I don't know. Could be favouritism as you imply. Not sure I agree with the point you make about TV, but that might be my viewing choices. Cop shows I watch are all set in the North. Gangsters in Birmingham, murder in Wales. " Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. | |||
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"I am a Londoner - probably grew up on the same Hounslow council estate that one of the above commenters mentioned. Moved out of London 20+ years ago and was shocked at how everything on the tv - news etc - suddenly seemed so London centric. When I lived in London it was normal and suddenly I realised there was a whole country out there that really didn’t appear on TV. It didn’t reflect the life I was living. I work in London regularly and just look at the difference in basic services - transport etc - compared to Gloucestershire. London has far more spent on it. London is different to the rest of the country. I don’t think it is the enemy but that difference is manifest. That's interesting. There is much more mass transport here for sure. I wonder if that's more cost effective due to population. A 6th of the population lives here does it have more than a 6th of the infrastructure I'd guess yes, but I don't know. Could be favouritism as you imply. Not sure I agree with the point you make about TV, but that might be my viewing choices. Cop shows I watch are all set in the North. Gangsters in Birmingham, murder in Wales. Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. " Per head, yeah. That is. | |||
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"I am a Londoner - probably grew up on the same Hounslow council estate that one of the above commenters mentioned. Moved out of London 20+ years ago and was shocked at how everything on the tv - news etc - suddenly seemed so London centric. When I lived in London it was normal and suddenly I realised there was a whole country out there that really didn’t appear on TV. It didn’t reflect the life I was living. I work in London regularly and just look at the difference in basic services - transport etc - compared to Gloucestershire. London has far more spent on it. London is different to the rest of the country. I don’t think it is the enemy but that difference is manifest. That's interesting. There is much more mass transport here for sure. I wonder if that's more cost effective due to population. A 6th of the population lives here does it have more than a 6th of the infrastructure I'd guess yes, but I don't know. Could be favouritism as you imply. Not sure I agree with the point you make about TV, but that might be my viewing choices. Cop shows I watch are all set in the North. Gangsters in Birmingham, murder in Wales. Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. " Investment in London is important to bring up because it’s a clear issue compared to how much is invested around the rest of the country. Transport is an interesting one. I think transport should be invested in and improved across the entire country. Even things like free travel for us and regular transport services until 18 is a benefit. | |||
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" Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. Investment in London is important to bring up because it’s a clear issue compared to how much is invested around the rest of the country. Transport is an interesting one. I think transport should be invested in and improved across the entire country. Even things like free travel for us and regular transport services until 18 is a benefit. " Look at Wales - the only real road they have is the M4 in the south and that is two lanes on several key places. Devon and Cornwall basically just have A roads. Lack of transport means that investment doesn’t go into these places which means that the “business case “ can’t be made for further investment. Classic catch 22. Cross rail was years and billions over budget. HS2 is designed purely to bypass large amounts of the country. Talk of new airports is always in London or the South East. | |||
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"I am a Londoner - probably grew up on the same Hounslow council estate that one of the above commenters mentioned. Moved out of London 20+ years ago and was shocked at how everything on the tv - news etc - suddenly seemed so London centric. When I lived in London it was normal and suddenly I realised there was a whole country out there that really didn’t appear on TV. It didn’t reflect the life I was living. I work in London regularly and just look at the difference in basic services - transport etc - compared to Gloucestershire. London has far more spent on it. London is different to the rest of the country. I don’t think it is the enemy but that difference is manifest. That's interesting. There is much more mass transport here for sure. I wonder if that's more cost effective due to population. A 6th of the population lives here does it have more than a 6th of the infrastructure I'd guess yes, but I don't know. Could be favouritism as you imply. Not sure I agree with the point you make about TV, but that might be my viewing choices. Cop shows I watch are all set in the North. Gangsters in Birmingham, murder in Wales. Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. Investment in London is important to bring up because it’s a clear issue compared to how much is invested around the rest of the country. Transport is an interesting one. I think transport should be invested in and improved across the entire country. Even things like free travel for us and regular transport services until 18 is a benefit. " Free travel isn’t until 18 except for buses only. All other transport needs to be paid for from 5 upwards. Although they tried to get rid of the free bus not long ago and it got shot down, as for some it would mean a choice between a kid going to school and being able to feed them. | |||
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"I am a Londoner - probably grew up on the same Hounslow council estate that one of the above commenters mentioned. Moved out of London 20+ years ago and was shocked at how everything on the tv - news etc - suddenly seemed so London centric. When I lived in London it was normal and suddenly I realised there was a whole country out there that really didn’t appear on TV. It didn’t reflect the life I was living. I work in London regularly and just look at the difference in basic services - transport etc - compared to Gloucestershire. London has far more spent on it. London is different to the rest of the country. I don’t think it is the enemy but that difference is manifest. That's interesting. There is much more mass transport here for sure. I wonder if that's more cost effective due to population. A 6th of the population lives here does it have more than a 6th of the infrastructure I'd guess yes, but I don't know. Could be favouritism as you imply. Not sure I agree with the point you make about TV, but that might be my viewing choices. Cop shows I watch are all set in the North. Gangsters in Birmingham, murder in Wales. Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. Investment in London is important to bring up because it’s a clear issue compared to how much is invested around the rest of the country. Transport is an interesting one. I think transport should be invested in and improved across the entire country. Even things like free travel for us and regular transport services until 18 is a benefit. Free travel isn’t until 18 except for buses only. All other transport needs to be paid for from 5 upwards. Although they tried to get rid of the free bus not long ago and it got shot down, as for some it would mean a choice between a kid going to school and being able to feed them. " There are no bus services where I live. The kids school buses cost me just under £2k a year each. | |||
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"I am a Londoner - probably grew up on the same Hounslow council estate that one of the above commenters mentioned. Moved out of London 20+ years ago and was shocked at how everything on the tv - news etc - suddenly seemed so London centric. When I lived in London it was normal and suddenly I realised there was a whole country out there that really didn’t appear on TV. It didn’t reflect the life I was living. I work in London regularly and just look at the difference in basic services - transport etc - compared to Gloucestershire. London has far more spent on it. London is different to the rest of the country. I don’t think it is the enemy but that difference is manifest. That's interesting. There is much more mass transport here for sure. I wonder if that's more cost effective due to population. A 6th of the population lives here does it have more than a 6th of the infrastructure I'd guess yes, but I don't know. Could be favouritism as you imply. Not sure I agree with the point you make about TV, but that might be my viewing choices. Cop shows I watch are all set in the North. Gangsters in Birmingham, murder in Wales. Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. Investment in London is important to bring up because it’s a clear issue compared to how much is invested around the rest of the country. Transport is an interesting one. I think transport should be invested in and improved across the entire country. Even things like free travel for us and regular transport services until 18 is a benefit. Free travel isn’t until 18 except for buses only. All other transport needs to be paid for from 5 upwards. Although they tried to get rid of the free bus not long ago and it got shot down, as for some it would mean a choice between a kid going to school and being able to feed them. There are no bus services where I live. The kids school buses cost me just under £2k a year each. " Used to cost me that too as the buses didn’t go to my kid’s school location, so we had a private bus. | |||
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"I am a Londoner - probably grew up on the same Hounslow council estate that one of the above commenters mentioned. Moved out of London 20+ years ago and was shocked at how everything on the tv - news etc - suddenly seemed so London centric. When I lived in London it was normal and suddenly I realised there was a whole country out there that really didn’t appear on TV. It didn’t reflect the life I was living. I work in London regularly and just look at the difference in basic services - transport etc - compared to Gloucestershire. London has far more spent on it. London is different to the rest of the country. I don’t think it is the enemy but that difference is manifest. That's interesting. There is much more mass transport here for sure. I wonder if that's more cost effective due to population. A 6th of the population lives here does it have more than a 6th of the infrastructure I'd guess yes, but I don't know. Could be favouritism as you imply. Not sure I agree with the point you make about TV, but that might be my viewing choices. Cop shows I watch are all set in the North. Gangsters in Birmingham, murder in Wales. Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. Investment in London is important to bring up because it’s a clear issue compared to how much is invested around the rest of the country. Transport is an interesting one. I think transport should be invested in and improved across the entire country. Even things like free travel for us and regular transport services until 18 is a benefit. Free travel isn’t until 18 except for buses only. All other transport needs to be paid for from 5 upwards. Although they tried to get rid of the free bus not long ago and it got shot down, as for some it would mean a choice between a kid going to school and being able to feed them. There are no bus services where I live. The kids school buses cost me just under £2k a year each. Used to cost me that too as the buses didn’t go to my kid’s school location, so we had a private bus. " Welcome to life outside London | |||
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"I am a Londoner - probably grew up on the same Hounslow council estate that one of the above commenters mentioned. Moved out of London 20+ years ago and was shocked at how everything on the tv - news etc - suddenly seemed so London centric. When I lived in London it was normal and suddenly I realised there was a whole country out there that really didn’t appear on TV. It didn’t reflect the life I was living. I work in London regularly and just look at the difference in basic services - transport etc - compared to Gloucestershire. London has far more spent on it. London is different to the rest of the country. I don’t think it is the enemy but that difference is manifest. That's interesting. There is much more mass transport here for sure. I wonder if that's more cost effective due to population. A 6th of the population lives here does it have more than a 6th of the infrastructure I'd guess yes, but I don't know. Could be favouritism as you imply. Not sure I agree with the point you make about TV, but that might be my viewing choices. Cop shows I watch are all set in the North. Gangsters in Birmingham, murder in Wales. Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. Investment in London is important to bring up because it’s a clear issue compared to how much is invested around the rest of the country. Transport is an interesting one. I think transport should be invested in and improved across the entire country. Even things like free travel for us and regular transport services until 18 is a benefit. Free travel isn’t until 18 except for buses only. All other transport needs to be paid for from 5 upwards. Although they tried to get rid of the free bus not long ago and it got shot down, as for some it would mean a choice between a kid going to school and being able to feed them. There are no bus services where I live. The kids school buses cost me just under £2k a year each. Used to cost me that too as the buses didn’t go to my kid’s school location, so we had a private bus. Welcome to life outside London "I’m in central london, just outside zone 1. I’m fully aware of the differences between the two | |||
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" Government stats for transport spend per head per region: London - £1,476 Scotland is next - £849 South West is bottom £477 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1134495/transport-spending-per-head-in-the-uk/ Pretty stark. Investment in London is important to bring up because it’s a clear issue compared to how much is invested around the rest of the country. Transport is an interesting one. I think transport should be invested in and improved across the entire country. Even things like free travel for us and regular transport services until 18 is a benefit. Look at Wales - the only real road they have is the M4 in the south and that is two lanes on several key places. Devon and Cornwall basically just have A roads. Lack of transport means that investment doesn’t go into these places which means that the “business case “ can’t be made for further investment. Classic catch 22. Cross rail was years and billions over budget. HS2 is designed purely to bypass large amounts of the country. Talk of new airports is always in London or the South East." A27 is the only major road between Brighton and Portsmouth and it goes down to one lane in a couple of areas, costing businesses millions. There has been talk of upgrading for decades but nothing gets done. | |||
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"Did you see the election results and the commentary that Labour winning seats in London will do them no favours as it just reinforces their image as the Liberal metropolitan elite? Is that how you view the capital? I've heard it said here a few times. Well, my fellow compatriots especially those of you from the impoverished north east, I'm here to offer you a challenge. I want you to come to the Nag's Head in Camberwell, stand on a Canning Town Station platform, tour some of the choicer parts of Tower Hamlets, come to a Millwall, Palace or Charlton match, walk along the Riverside in Woolwich, visit most of Brent, visit any wetherspoons outside of zone 2 and I'll give you a tenner for every member of the metropolitan elite you can set eyes on. Yeah London has an awful lot of rich wankers but it also has the largest numbers of the country's poorest. We do tend towards multiculturalism, but that isn't some Liberal idealistic dream of how to live it's just cause we went to school together, grew up round here with each other, worked, laughed and drank together. We vote labour in droves cause we don't trust tories to care for anything but themselves. We pay £6 for pints cause some cunt gave us no choice. London is not your enemy. We're mostly Left of centre, you can call us metropolitan cause we live in a bloody metropolis, but elite? Do me a favour, please. We have more in common than you're being told. London is not your enemy. Rant over.... and relax. "  | |||
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"Nope still a shit hole full of wankers you can stick your multiculturalism up your apple and pears rant over" Such eloquence! I lived in central London for about 15 years and loved it. Now live in Oxfordshire and love that too. Different place, different times, different needs, both are excellent. | |||
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"This is the only country I know that the capital gets so much more attention and infrastructure support than anywhere else. Having said that and as someone that knows London quite well, investment varies from one part to another. However it's also about time that government, of any colour, did really become serious about levelling up and the rest up north. Infrastructure, busses, airports all have been neglected in most of the North. Leeds/Bradford airport got approval for a new much greener and more efficient airport and then it was blocked because apparently would not fit with the green agenda even though it was going to be a modern and greener airport. Projects like that are needed up north for any kind of levelling up. It's just all lip service and electioneering rhetoric rarely ever amounting to anything. " The idea that the capital gets too much attention and investment is absolutely not unique to England. Try speaking to someone from cork about Dublin for example. Or Glasgow / Edinburgh. French people will happily tell you that paris is unlike the rest of France. Etc etc etc Rural areas and smaller cities very often have a chip in tier shoulder about the big city. Doesn’t even have to be the capital … Auckland is a good example | |||
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"Nope still a shit hole full of wankers you can stick your multiculturalism up your apple and pears rant over" You should say that out loud on the Walworth Road and see what happens. | |||
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". Guys, I take your point about spending it's a valid one, but my point still remains. London is not your cultural enemy.we don't get a say in any of this shit. " If that is really true then I guess all Londoners would vote for a Mayor who campaigned on not fighting for London and actively pushed jobs and investment to other regions. Some how I don’t think that is going to happen. | |||
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"This is the only country I know that the capital gets so much more attention and infrastructure support than anywhere else. Having said that and as someone that knows London quite well, investment varies from one part to another. However it's also about time that government, of any colour, did really become serious about levelling up and the rest up north. Infrastructure, busses, airports all have been neglected in most of the North. Leeds/Bradford airport got approval for a new much greener and more efficient airport and then it was blocked because apparently would not fit with the green agenda even though it was going to be a modern and greener airport. Projects like that are needed up north for any kind of levelling up. It's just all lip service and electioneering rhetoric rarely ever amounting to anything. The idea that the capital gets too much attention and investment is absolutely not unique to England. Try speaking to someone from cork about Dublin for example. Or Glasgow / Edinburgh. French people will happily tell you that paris is unlike the rest of France. Etc etc etc Rural areas and smaller cities very often have a chip in tier shoulder about the big city. Doesn’t even have to be the capital … Auckland is a good example " Absolutely no chip here at all to be honest. In fact I welcome the spending in the capital but object at the neglect of other areas of the country. | |||
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". Guys, I take your point about spending it's a valid one, but my point still remains. London is not your cultural enemy.we don't get a say in any of this shit. If that is really true then I guess all Londoners would vote for a Mayor who campaigned on not fighting for London and actively pushed jobs and investment to other regions. Some how I don’t think that is going to happen." I’d rather not have a mayor of London, just another level of taxes. If he didn’t exist my council tax would have gone down this year not up thanks to his extra ‘I need money for London’ ! To your point though that would make them Mayor of UK, that job is already taken but under another name and resides in Westminster | |||
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"Even your mass transportation system isn't that great. I can't use most of it and your pavements are shite "Sad that see such antagonism. Sounds very bitter. I take it that where you live is a place of unrivalled beauty, with lovely pavements | |||
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"Even your mass transportation system isn't that great. I can't use most of it and your pavements are shite
Sad that see such antagonism. Sounds very bitter. I take it that where you live is a place of unrivalled beauty, with lovely pavements "Nah, it's shite too Unfortunately, my facial expression didn't translate well into the post, which was intended to be a light hearted dig. | |||
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"Impoverished North East is better than London in every single way." I love the parts of the North East I've seen. The people are wonderful. That wasn't my point. My point was that large swathes of where I grew up are impoverished too. | |||
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"Even your mass transportation system isn't that great. I can't use most of it and your pavements are shite
Sad that see such antagonism. Sounds very bitter. I take it that where you live is a place of unrivalled beauty, with lovely pavements "Also, I'm a wheelchair user so yes, I'm very bitter about the fact I can't use mass transportation in London and many other places. In many other places, I can use it with assistance ramps, but in London, I can't even get down to the underground train in the vast majority of places. | |||
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"Impoverished North East is better than London in every single way." That’s the attitude I can never figure out. I lived in London, enjoyed it hugely. I then moved away from London and now live a very different life and enjoy that too. It would never even occur to me to try ti say that one as better than the other. They both suit me on different ways. And if you can’t find one single thing that is good about London … | |||
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"Impoverished North East is better than London in every single way. I love the parts of the North East I've seen. The people are wonderful. That wasn't my point. My point was that large swathes of where I grew up are impoverished too." I think more of it comes from people visiting London as tourists. It’s not the most welcoming place and like most major cities, Newcastle included, outside of the town centre is a shit hole. | |||
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"Impoverished North East is better than London in every single way. That’s the attitude I can never figure out. I lived in London, enjoyed it hugely. I then moved away from London and now live a very different life and enjoy that too. It would never even occur to me to try ti say that one as better than the other. They both suit me on different ways. And if you can’t find one single thing that is good about London … " And that is your opinion. Fortunately I’m capable of forming my own. | |||
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"Investment in London is important to bring up because it’s a clear issue compared to how much is invested around the rest of the country. Transport is an interesting one. I think transport should be invested in and improved across the entire country. Even things like free travel for us and regular transport services until 18 is a benefit. Free travel isn’t until 18 except for buses only. All other transport needs to be paid for from 5 upwards. Although they tried to get rid of the free bus not long ago and it got shot down, as for some it would mean a choice between a kid going to school and being able to feed them. " Of course you’re right. But in terms of schooling, though not ideal, it provides reliable transport to and from compulsory education. My point is that it’s something that should be extended across the country. Young people around the country need access to free reliable regular buses to access compulsory education. | |||
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"Even your mass transportation system isn't that great. I can't use most of it and your pavements are shite
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Also, I'm a wheelchair user so yes, I'm very bitter about the fact I can't use mass transportation in London and many other places. In many other places, I can use it with assistance ramps, but in London, I can't even get down to the underground train in the vast majority of places."True the tube would take some navigating by chair, but lifts are going in at a fast pace. They're everywhere now. I promise it will get better. | |||
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"Ummm, I'm from Hounslow too. "I'm from Borough of Hounslow too! (laughing emoji) Now in West Sussex. I see in different towns many wannabe Londoners it makes me cringe. | |||
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"I've nothing against London, I think it's a wonderful city. But as others have said, investment in the country is heavily weighted towards London. And as someone who lives in the North East, it is somewhat galling how London-centric the news and media are." This is true but I think the OP still stands in the way ordinary Londoners are presented as some kind of metropolitan elite. But the reality is most of us can barely afford to survive here. | |||
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"Impoverished North East is better than London in every single way. I love the parts of the North East I've seen. The people are wonderful. That wasn't my point. My point was that large swathes of where I grew up are impoverished too. I think more of it comes from people visiting London as tourists. It’s not the most welcoming place and like most major cities, Newcastle included, outside of the town centre is a shit hole." I'll show anyone around who wants to come. The tourist traps are vile. We hate those bits too. I just want everyone outside of London to know that most of this city is really struggling. We're not some elite. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 07/05/22 14:06:59] You took it away but your first sentence about salary vs cost difference per month is highlighted in this document. Most won’t earn this level either. Search - Revealed: The richest and poorest cities in the UK" Thanks for sharing this. It’s absolutely absurd. I was talking to my partner about it last week. About how if we moved out of London we’d actually have money for a life for us and our daughter . But obviously we’d have like… no family or friends or any of that stuff. | |||
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"Impoverished North East is better than London in every single way. I love the parts of the North East I've seen. The people are wonderful. That wasn't my point. My point was that large swathes of where I grew up are impoverished too. I think more of it comes from people visiting London as tourists. It’s not the most welcoming place and like most major cities, Newcastle included, outside of the town centre is a shit hole. I'll show anyone around who wants to come. The tourist traps are vile. We hate those bits too. I just want everyone outside of London to know that most of this city is really struggling. We're not some elite. " I’ve not really heard that view. Everyone has heard the stories of box rooms being rented out for more than a 4 bed house in other parts of the UK. I have a couple of friends who work in London but live miles away because rent is so high so I hear of the struggles of the average person living/working in London. | |||
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"London is a great place to visit but I'd hate to live there. I'm not sure why so many people want to. " Personally, it was a mixture of career opportunities, culture, convenience, diversity and a number of other factors. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 07/05/22 14:06:59] You took it away but your first sentence about salary vs cost difference per month is highlighted in this document. Most won’t earn this level either. Search - Revealed: The richest and poorest cities in the UK Thanks for sharing this. It’s absolutely absurd. I was talking to my partner about it last week. About how if we moved out of London we’d actually have money for a life for us and our daughter . But obviously we’d have like… no family or friends or any of that stuff. "It is madness. I’m here until my lad finishes school then I’m moving out. No idea where but I’m not paying these prices after that. | |||
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"Most of our friends emigrated to London and the surrounding areas after uni. Every single one of them changed radically and not for the better. I don't know if it's the industries they work in, the areas they lived or if it would have happened had they chosen to remain in the north, but that's our experience. Maybe it's us that's missed out on something amazing?" Ouch! Who said anything about amazing? I didn't say we were anything special. I just said we weren't your enemy. | |||
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"Most of our friends emigrated to London and the surrounding areas after uni. Every single one of them changed radically and not for the better. I don't know if it's the industries they work in, the areas they lived or if it would have happened had they chosen to remain in the north, but that's our experience. Maybe it's us that's missed out on something amazing? Ouch! Who said anything about amazing? I didn't say we were anything special. I just said we weren't your enemy. " I mean it genuinely. We've often wondered if we've missed out by staying in the same general area we've lived in for most (or all) of our lives. We've travelled a fair bit but never to study, live or work (unless you count Mr KC on oil rigs?!) There might be some exciting opportunity or experience we've missed out on by remaining up here. I've never thought anyone from a different area of the country was my enemy either. I'm not originally from this area I'm in now, I'm actually from a completely different place originally and have moved around the NW of England and N Wales a lot. I'm from nowhere really. | |||
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"Most of our friends emigrated to London and the surrounding areas after uni. Every single one of them changed radically and not for the better. I don't know if it's the industries they work in, the areas they lived or if it would have happened had they chosen to remain in the north, but that's our experience. Maybe it's us that's missed out on something amazing? Ouch! Who said anything about amazing? I didn't say we were anything special. I just said we weren't your enemy. I mean it genuinely. We've often wondered if we've missed out by staying in the same general area we've lived in for most (or all) of our lives. We've travelled a fair bit but never to study, live or work (unless you count Mr KC on oil rigs?!) There might be some exciting opportunity or experience we've missed out on by remaining up here. I've never thought anyone from a different area of the country was my enemy either. I'm not originally from this area I'm in now, I'm actually from a completely different place originally and have moved around the NW of England and N Wales a lot. I'm from nowhere really." Clearly sensitive today KC, sorry. I should get more sleep. I suppose there is more opportunity just from the sheer size of the place, but the beautiful bits of culture and history that I love most about this city are strewn all across this land so I don't think you're missing out in any way. | |||
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"Most of our friends emigrated to London and the surrounding areas after uni. Every single one of them changed radically and not for the better. I don't know if it's the industries they work in, the areas they lived or if it would have happened had they chosen to remain in the north, but that's our experience. Maybe it's us that's missed out on something amazing? Ouch! Who said anything about amazing? I didn't say we were anything special. I just said we weren't your enemy. I mean it genuinely. We've often wondered if we've missed out by staying in the same general area we've lived in for most (or all) of our lives. We've travelled a fair bit but never to study, live or work (unless you count Mr KC on oil rigs?!) There might be some exciting opportunity or experience we've missed out on by remaining up here. I've never thought anyone from a different area of the country was my enemy either. I'm not originally from this area I'm in now, I'm actually from a completely different place originally and have moved around the NW of England and N Wales a lot. I'm from nowhere really. Clearly sensitive today KC, sorry. I should get more sleep. I suppose there is more opportunity just from the sheer size of the place, but the beautiful bits of culture and history that I love most about this city are strewn all across this land so I don't think you're missing out in any way." By having my son at 16, with him being in school etc, we chose to stay here. I'm pretty sure our career development is worse because of our lack of geographical movement (not just to the south/London but in general). I suppose we picked family life over everything else  | |||
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"Most of our friends emigrated to London and the surrounding areas after uni. Every single one of them changed radically and not for the better. I don't know if it's the industries they work in, the areas they lived or if it would have happened had they chosen to remain in the north, but that's our experience. Maybe it's us that's missed out on something amazing? Ouch! Who said anything about amazing? I didn't say we were anything special. I just said we weren't your enemy. I mean it genuinely. We've often wondered if we've missed out by staying in the same general area we've lived in for most (or all) of our lives. We've travelled a fair bit but never to study, live or work (unless you count Mr KC on oil rigs?!) There might be some exciting opportunity or experience we've missed out on by remaining up here. I've never thought anyone from a different area of the country was my enemy either. I'm not originally from this area I'm in now, I'm actually from a completely different place originally and have moved around the NW of England and N Wales a lot. I'm from nowhere really. Clearly sensitive today KC, sorry. I should get more sleep. I suppose there is more opportunity just from the sheer size of the place, but the beautiful bits of culture and history that I love most about this city are strewn all across this land so I don't think you're missing out in any way. By having my son at 16, with him being in school etc, we chose to stay here. I'm pretty sure our career development is worse because of our lack of geographical movement (not just to the south/London but in general). I suppose we picked family life over everything else "So you should. Correct priorities. | |||
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"I imagine that London is fairly empty now as most of population have moved to Lincolnshire and sit in the pub most evenings telling everyone how much money they made selling their house and how far said money goes here before wheel spinning out of the car park in their BMW X5 " Well they sound like cunts. City boys. By which I mean the square mile. Awful place | |||
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"Yeah London has an awful lot of rich wankers.... " This, coming from someone who took exception to the term "the loutish left". The irony. | |||
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