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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire

Many will agree the court case so far is a joke. There is no evidence Johnny was a problem in their relationship (and he had no history prior to meeting her) yet Amber clearly had serious psychological, mental and behaviour issues. We now have today a psychologist PAID BY AMBER who has NOT analysed Johnny face to face therefore mostly HERESAY and BS by Amber. Clear and utter bias that should not have been allowed to waste courts time nor tire and confuse the jury. Yet on the other hand the psycologist details Ambers psychological issues and abuse she suffered when Amber was a vulnerable child forming her character and values, abuse that becomes their 'norm' and often carries into adult relationships AS AMBER CLEARLY HAS.

Hopefully men and women watching this case take indicators of Amber's behaviour and traits and STEER WELL CLEAR of similar potential partners. I Tony have been there myself and it can be so difficult as these kind of people are VERY good at being on their best behaviour till their hooks are well and truly in you. VERY good at hiding past and present mental and psychological issues, childishness, narcissism, disrespect, dishonesty and violent tendencies. Be careful, take your time, let them prove themselves over time... if they are genuine, 'normal' and truly have natural, uncorrupted feelings for you, they will be happy taking things slowly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah, the person who punches you in the face and then laments that they just want to be friends as soon as someone else walks in - gotta love 'em

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've found the court videos on YouTube to be hilarious. Her defence team being utterly destroyed by witnesses and Depp himself is a sight to behold. Pure class

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"Ah, the person who punches you in the face and then laments that they just want to be friends as soon as someone else walks in - gotta love 'em"

I was assaulted on many occasions, police called by myself on several. No evidence of any kind of abuse by myself upon her and a psychology report detailing her serious issues and violent tendencies, none attributed to myself.

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By *ormorantMan
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

I care neither way, the judgement in The UK libel trial which JD lost make for interesting reading…

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"I've found the court videos on YouTube to be hilarious. Her defence team being utterly destroyed by witnesses and Depp himself is a sight to behold. Pure class"

Yes her team is a complete joke, I believe she's on her THIRD !?. The current one seems a little better...On the other hand they have nothing of 'real evidence' to work with, it is all against HER. Just money to them...

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"I care neither way, the judgement in The UK libel trial which JD lost make for interesting reading… "

The point of this post is identifying such abusive people (often incredibly difficult by their nature) and not getting into a relationship with them.

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By *ormorantMan
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"I care neither way, the judgement in The UK libel trial which JD lost make for interesting reading…

The point of this post is identifying such abusive people (often incredibly difficult by their nature) and not getting into a relationship with them."

But he was identified as an abuser in that ruling..

The point of my post was balance.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Without making light of genuine experiences that people have had it is so much easier these days for people to pull a card out of their back pocket that suits a particular narrative.

I have experience of someone using the MH card to avoid dismissal following inappropriate behaviour towards a female colleague and then assaulting their line manager(me).

I've seen many comments on here where people are quick to whip out the victim card to cover their own misogyny or misandry.

How many times have we seen people tell us that they are a bitch or a cunt but that's just who they are and people need to accept that?

Or that they don't give a fuck what others think of them which also translates as they don't give a fuck what they say to others.

The plight of real victims is diminished by the professional victims or the band wagon hijackers.

This court case is a circus and trial by media but unfortunately the majority of victims do not have access to this court and often do not have a voice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The value of talking about MH is that you can get the support you need, it's never an excuse... there's too much risk that you play into the dynamic causing your MH problems.

People with MH issues want to get better and will go to great lengths to avoid it impacting their lives.

When that Olympic athlete withdrew from the games to focus on her MH, I felt that she would look back and regret that. The spirit of the games is overcoming your limitations and showing what humans are capable of.

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"The plight of real victims is diminished by the professional victims or the band wagon hijackers.

This court case is a circus and trial by media but unfortunately the majority of victims do not have access to this court and often do not have a voice. "

Here here. My children and I were the victims, the evidence was utterly clear and backed up unwittingly by a court psycologist but still took a decade of utterly corrupt and deeply gender biased 'family' court hearings to completely clear my name. Too late for the now damaged children, sickening.

'This court' is televised so under pressure to do things 'properly' and legally for a change. We shall see to what extent....

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"But he was identified as an abuser in that ruling..

The point of my post was balance."

'Identified' by a UK judge that did not want to get involved in 'American' squabbles, a judge alone relying upon the mountain of unsubstantiated 'hearsay' by Amber, without a jury too...

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By *ormorantMan
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"But he was identified as an abuser in that ruling..

The point of my post was balance.

'Identified' by a UK judge that did not want to get involved in 'American' squabbles, a judge alone relying upon the mountain of unsubstantiated 'hearsay' by Amber, without a jury too..."

He found he assaulted her 12 times and put her in fear of her life 3 times…

You believe what you need to believe.

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"He found he assaulted her 12 times and put her in fear of her life 3 times…

You believe what you need to believe.

"

We believe evidence, real history (such as his prior relationship with Vanessa). Not hearsay in a set-up court case Johnny was not prepared for as was away for 6 months with his band prior to it (and Amber was well aware of that). You believe everything all judges say ??, tut tut. We look at the real evidence and bigger picture and have plenty experience of real abuse and court judges, including those who don't follow their own bench directives or basic human and child rights.

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By *ormorantMan
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"He found he assaulted her 12 times and put her in fear of her life 3 times…

You believe what you need to believe.

We believe evidence, real history (such as his prior relationship with Vanessa). Not hearsay in a set-up court case Johnny was not prepared for as was away for 6 months with his band prior to it (and Amber was well aware of that). You believe everything all judges say ??, tut tut. We look at the real evidence and bigger picture and have plenty experience of real abuse and court judges, including those who don't follow their own bench directives or basic human and child rights."

I refer you to my previous answer.

You also need to understand the legal definitions of hearsay evidence and unsubstantiated evidence. I recommend “ Butterworths”

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace


"But he was identified as an abuser in that ruling..

The point of my post was balance.

'Identified' by a UK judge that did not want to get involved in 'American' squabbles, a judge alone relying upon the mountain of unsubstantiated 'hearsay' by Amber, without a jury too...

He found he assaulted her 12 times and put her in fear of her life 3 times…

You believe what you need to believe.

"

And she was far from innocent as seen by the evidence being presented now, yet who's career has been the only one ruined, she went on to star in a hit movie, he was canned from his (several in fact).

He knows that it is going to stick with him for the rest of his days, he's said as much in testimony, his career is over, he wants her to take accountability for her actions and the defamation case is just that, his way of telling his story.

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By *ormorantMan
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"But he was identified as an abuser in that ruling..

The point of my post was balance.

'Identified' by a UK judge that did not want to get involved in 'American' squabbles, a judge alone relying upon the mountain of unsubstantiated 'hearsay' by Amber, without a jury too...

He found he assaulted her 12 times and put her in fear of her life 3 times…

You believe what you need to believe.

And she was far from innocent as seen by the evidence being presented now, yet who's career has been the only one ruined, she went on to star in a hit movie, he was canned from his (several in fact).

He knows that it is going to stick with him for the rest of his days, he's said as much in testimony, his career is over, he wants her to take accountability for her actions and the defamation case is just that, his way of telling his story."

I agree,

As I said I wasn’t/ don’t take sides.

I was adding balance.

I think both are unsavoury and repugnant.

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"And she was far from innocent as seen by the evidence being presented now, yet who's career has been the only one ruined, she went on to star in a hit movie, he was canned from his (several in fact).

He knows that it is going to stick with him for the rest of his days, he's said as much in testimony, his career is over, he wants her to take accountability for her actions and the defamation case is just that, his way of telling his story."

Absolutely, and again displaying her corruption and lack of 'real' evidence

Time to get back to the real reason for this thread, identifying similar abusive people and avoiding relationships with them at all cost...

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast


"And she was far from innocent as seen by the evidence being presented now, yet who's career has been the only one ruined, she went on to star in a hit movie, he was canned from his (several in fact).

He knows that it is going to stick with him for the rest of his days, he's said as much in testimony, his career is over, he wants her to take accountability for her actions and the defamation case is just that, his way of telling his story.

Absolutely, and again displaying her corruption and lack of 'real' evidence

Time to get back to the real reason for this thread, identifying similar abusive people and avoiding relationships with them at all cost..."

I used to know someone who talked non stop about her ex and how he was a narcissist. Virtually every conversation dragged him in at some point and she blamed him for every bad thing that ever happened to her.

Two years after they broke up she was still stalking his social media, commenting on some of his posts and making derogatory comments directly to any other woman he was friendly with and told others these women were a step down after being with her.

He never responded to any of her nasty comments and just ignored her.

She always claimed she was open and honest and others needed to be like her. When a mutual friend challenged her on this she made her life a misery and threatened to out her life on fab to her family.

I told her she was toxic and that we could no longer be friends and she spent the next 6 months stalking my social media and commenting on anything I posted.

She follows at least 100 different FB pages about relationships and narcissists and constantly quotes from them on other peoples pages.

She was and still is from what I know, a vampire, sucking the life out of every conversation and is completely deluded.

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace


"And she was far from innocent as seen by the evidence being presented now, yet who's career has been the only one ruined, she went on to star in a hit movie, he was canned from his (several in fact).

He knows that it is going to stick with him for the rest of his days, he's said as much in testimony, his career is over, he wants her to take accountability for her actions and the defamation case is just that, his way of telling his story.

Absolutely, and again displaying her corruption and lack of 'real' evidence

Time to get back to the real reason for this thread, identifying similar abusive people and avoiding relationships with them at all cost..."

I spent 10 years in one and the one prior to that, I avoided relationships full stop until I knew for sure I wasn't repeating the same mistake

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"I spent 10 years in one and the one prior to that, I avoided relationships full stop until I knew for sure I wasn't repeating the same mistake "

Similar here, we learnt. Many others fall into the trap and destruction that follows, worsened when children are involved and not supported at all by the system. I Tony have now found someone who is the total opposite... Cherry. Fingers crossed and best wishes to you Tindergirl xx

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By *entlemanFoxMan
over a year ago

North East / London

Interesting thread

Cherry could you pm so I can ask something off thread?

Thanks

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By *entlemanFoxMan
over a year ago

North East / London

Sorry just to be clear it is Tony I mean

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

The problem here is that men having to out up with abuse from a partner is ridiculed.

Wome are always believed. Even if proved they get off scot free or have a reduced sentence.

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"But he was identified as an abuser in that ruling..

The point of my post was balance.

'Identified' by a UK judge that did not want to get involved in 'American' squabbles, a judge alone relying upon the mountain of unsubstantiated 'hearsay' by Amber, without a jury too...

He found he assaulted her 12 times and put her in fear of her life 3 times…

You believe what you need to believe.

"

Whatever you may think of Depp. He diddnt try and hack her finger off. Heard did do that and has never tried to deny it. Or attribute it to fearing for her life. Details from her team have been murky. An act of physical violence of that degree says to me someone has problems.

This alone woukd indicate that

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"The plight of real victims is diminished by the professional victims or the band wagon hijackers.

This court case is a circus and trial by media but unfortunately the majority of victims do not have access to this court and often do not have a voice.

Here here. My children and I were the victims, the evidence was utterly clear and backed up unwittingly by a court psycologist but still took a decade of utterly corrupt and deeply gender biased 'family' court hearings to completely clear my name. Too late for the now damaged children, sickening.

'This court' is televised so under pressure to do things 'properly' and legally for a change. We shall see to what extent...."

The problem with these people is that they are manipulative and can always make themselves the victim.

They get others to feel sorry for them and turn people against the other party.

They always have an excuse and are very difficult to work out before they get their hooks into you.

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"Interesting thread

Cherry could you pm so I can ask something off thread?

Thanks"

Tony yes, wink sent to override blocks yet not a lot of time to chat...

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By *ormorantMan
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"But he was identified as an abuser in that ruling..

The point of my post was balance.

'Identified' by a UK judge that did not want to get involved in 'American' squabbles, a judge alone relying upon the mountain of unsubstantiated 'hearsay' by Amber, without a jury too...

He found he assaulted her 12 times and put her in fear of her life 3 times…

You believe what you need to believe.

Whatever you may think of Depp. He diddnt try and hack her finger off. Heard did do that and has never tried to deny it. Or attribute it to fearing for her life. Details from her team have been murky. An act of physical violence of that degree says to me someone has problems.

This alone woukd indicate that "

Don’t misunderstand me, I take no sides.

The post was about identifying abusers.

The OP identified Herd.

As balance I identified Depp.

No more, no less.

What will be interesting is if the US court finds in Depps favour, will it form basis for an appeal in the UK courts..

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By *herryEaters OP   Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire


"The problem here is that men having to out up with abuse from a partner is ridiculed.

Wome are always believed. Even if proved they get off scot free or have a reduced sentence.

"

Yes on many occasions when reporting to police they would form prior gender biased opinions or speak to my ex before me even though I myself had called them out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the problem with mental health is anybody can use it at anytime they wish the youth today are doing this daily .. with alot of mental health its words to act on as and when you need it ... its a game for many to get what they want meaning those who have real mental health problems suffer because of wasted resorce's .. so its easy for the rich they just buy it ..

disclaimer ... not all ...

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