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"A subject close to my heart - as it can be a devastating yet silent illness, sometimes undiagnosed, sometimes misread as moodiness and often people who do suffer are being looked upon as if only they tried hard enough they could snap out of it. Sadly that is not the case and unlike having a "visible" dignosis of say diabetes or a broken limb depression can be kept well hidden by the sufferer for a host of reaons, embarrassment just being one of those. I have friends who have suffered from it for years and as an outsider you would never know they were suffering. What is sad though that it takes the sufferer so much energy to keep up the "happy" mask - and this would not be necessary if there was not so much stugma attached still today." *stigma | |||
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"A subject close to my heart - as it can be a devastating yet silent illness, sometimes undiagnosed, sometimes misread as moodiness and often people who do suffer are being looked upon as if only they tried hard enough they could snap out of it. Sadly that is not the case and unlike having a "visible" dignosis of say diabetes or a broken limb depression can be kept well hidden by the sufferer for a host of reaons, embarrassment just being one of those. I have friends who have suffered from it for years and as an outsider you would never know they were suffering. What is sad though that it takes the sufferer so much energy to keep up the "happy" mask - and this would not be necessary if there was not so much stugma attached still today." Sums it up perfectly | |||
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"Also I think it is very important that you insist to your GP that you are referred to a psychiatrist in order for the correct diagnosis to be made. GP's simply do not know enough about it, and can often misdiagnose Bipolar, and the varying types of depression, they don't always put you on the correct medication or quantity which can be damaging to the suffer." *sufferer. | |||
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"Also I think it is very important that you insist to your GP that you are referred to a psychiatrist in order for the correct diagnosis to be made. GP's simply do not know enough about it, and can often misdiagnose Bipolar, and the varying types of depression, they don't always put you on the correct medication or quantity which can be damaging to the suffer." | |||
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" And quite frankly depression seems a normal and healthy response to the state of the world " I would agree with you in some cases. | |||
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"I did a few years back anxiety,panic attacks depression was on anti d's which did the job.. Over last few months starting to get it back again,been trying to deal with it myself as don't want to take pills again. Mrs keeps telling me though i should go see the doctor ... What can i say stubborn male !! " i suffer with mild agorophobia and panic attacks i read a good book called coping successfully with panic attacks by shirley trickett. which i found very helpful. | |||
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"How can people tell if thay have this ? maybe thay just think if feeling low its normal ?" Lots do. I did until I had a very public breakdown 23 years ago. | |||
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"Also I think it is very important that you insist to your GP that you are referred to a psychiatrist in order for the correct diagnosis to be made. GP's simply do not know enough about it, and can often misdiagnose Bipolar, and the varying types of depression, they don't always put you on the correct medication or quantity which can be damaging to the suffer." Unfortunately a GP referral can take months, and in the meantime the sufferer struggles on. I know someone who was diagnosed with depression and given some happy pills, basically just a lollipops n plasters treatment. This person went from being very mild mannered and loving, to a moody, aggressive, foul mouthed individual - and directed it all at family. Simply because the GP gave the bog standard drug for depression, which obviously didn't agree with the person I personally have never suffered with depression - I've had low times due to life events, but I've been fortunate enough to have the same outlook as Julie and never ended up in such a dark place | |||
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"How can people tell if thay have this ? maybe thay just think if feeling low its normal ?" I dont know about others, but it's a bit more than just feeling low. I have had periods of my life where months have gone by and I didn't really want to see or speak to anyone, hated everything about myself and everything about the world, and couldn't find joy in anything, and felt totally devoid of energy. You learn a lot about yourself and how to recognise when its coming, but you sometimes still can't stop it. One of the best natural things you can do is regular exercise | |||
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"How can people tell if thay have this ? maybe thay just think if feeling low its normal ?" Hi Jo, well yes everyone has times in their life when the things get them down, and you feel like things are getting on top of you. A lot of people at this time of year suffer from seasonal depression. People who have depression will feel different from the blues, and often not recognise the feeling of being down, and basically it will be a prolonged period where everything and nothing is right and you can not seem to find the energy to do anything. Your eating & sleeping patterns will always change. It is important, no matter if you think, you are just feeling a little down, to approach your GP, and then they can ascertain, through a "tested" scoring test whether you are depressed or not. However they do not then delve further, they will put you on anti depressants, and there are many about, mainly GP's stick to the newer SRI's. These are not suitable as with other drugs for all sufferers and GP's rarely go further and distinguish between the types of depression or indeed mania. Hence I said it is imperative to ensure your GP refers you to a psychiatrist. They will not normally refer you until between 4-8 weeks, where they will try to establish if the drugs they have prescribed are having an effect or not. Commonly though a bipolar sufferer will suffer more mania on just anti depressants, as they also need to take mood stabilisers and as the anti depressants work, the mania can then get out of control. A psychiatrist will diagnose, and control the medicines you take, doses etc | |||
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"How can people tell if thay have this ? maybe thay just think if feeling low its normal ?" most dont realise they have it, for a lot it takes someone else who notice the change in them to point out something is wrong When you get the help you need tho and look back at how you was you think....god how did i not know, but i guess thats just part of the illness i never realised i had it and to be honest my ex wasnt a believer is such things he thought postnatal depression was just a excuse for fat women to sit about feeling sorry for themsleves and using having a kid as an exuse for putting weight on and then moaning about it, he used to tell me to just pull myself together and get a grip, which didnt help me really, so mine went unnoticed for ages, it was my health visitor that got me onto the doctors | |||
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"Also I think it is very important that you insist to your GP that you are referred to a psychiatrist in order for the correct diagnosis to be made. GP's simply do not know enough about it, and can often misdiagnose Bipolar, and the varying types of depression, they don't always put you on the correct medication or quantity which can be damaging to the suffer. Unfortunately a GP referral can take months, and in the meantime the sufferer struggles on. I know someone who was diagnosed with depression and given some happy pills, basically just a lollipops n plasters treatment. This person went from being very mild mannered and loving, to a moody, aggressive, foul mouthed individual - and directed it all at family. Simply because the GP gave the bog standard drug for depression, which obviously didn't agree with the person I personally have never suffered with depression - I've had low times due to life events, but I've been fortunate enough to have the same outlook as Julie and never ended up in such a dark place " Oh I did end up in a dark place for a number of years, and yes as per my latest post, GP's are not specialists and can often do harm. If you are not happy with a GP, or their diagnosis, ask to see another at your surgery. Also it is very important to have a supportive family member/partner/friend, who you trust who can go to the doctors with you, and they can push the doctor for your referral or perhaps voice what you feel you can not to a psychiatrist, it is also helpful for a psychiatrist if you can keep a diary of your thoughts/feelings, and a loved one to do the same. I have read some brilliant books, self help techniques included, and support for loved ones, happy to recommend them. | |||
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"Not me, and I have had all the life's big events thrown at me at various times in the past few years. Having good resilience and positive mental attitude helped me bounced back when I was low. I kept myself busy to keep me going. I cannot change the past, however I can influence the future, and shall enjoy the present the best I can. " Not really sure what you are saying in this post ? Depression isnt always connected to difficult or traumatic life events. Neither is it defeated by risiliance or a positive mental attitude or by keeping busy. I also think you are mistaken if you think you can influence the future, although you are right about not being able to change the past, you can change how you think about the past. Please carry on enjoying the present though. In reality this second right here is the only place we ever really have any influence. | |||
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"Not me, and I have had all the life's big events thrown at me at various times in the past few years. Having good resilience and positive mental attitude helped me bounced back when I was low. I kept myself busy to keep me going. I cannot change the past, however I can influence the future, and shall enjoy the present the best I can. Not really sure what you are saying in this post ? Depression isnt always connected to difficult or traumatic life events. Neither is it defeated by risiliance or a positive mental attitude or by keeping busy. I also think you are mistaken if you think you can influence the future, although you are right about not being able to change the past, you can change how you think about the past. Please carry on enjoying the present though. In reality this second right here is the only place we ever really have any influence. " Have you been reading 'the power of now'? | |||
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"Not me, and I have had all the life's big events thrown at me at various times in the past few years. Having good resilience and positive mental attitude helped me bounced back when I was low. I kept myself busy to keep me going. I cannot change the past, however I can influence the future, and shall enjoy the present the best I can. Not really sure what you are saying in this post ? Depression isnt always connected to difficult or traumatic life events. Neither is it defeated by risiliance or a positive mental attitude or by keeping busy. I also think you are mistaken if you think you can influence the future, although you are right about not being able to change the past, you can change how you think about the past. Please carry on enjoying the present though. In reality this second right here is the only place we ever really have any influence. " Cheers cliff , peolpe see it as weak mindedness , and cheer up be positive lol .... I just hope they never ever have to visit this god awful place !!!!! ?? | |||
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"I do worry at times about people sharing too much about their depression on an internet site. I think it can be a great way of sharing experience and really help.... but I also believe, you risk putting yourself out there for the exploiters of others, those who befriend the vulnerable for their own good . and they exist " They do, I don't deny that. I have spent so long advocating for openness about mental health issues that I cannot see a thread like this without saying 'me too - you are not alone'. It part of my failings but I know this approach has helped at least 8 people. Someone helped me in this way 23 years ago when I had a breakdown and I have felt a duty to pay that forward ever since. | |||
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" Someone helped me in this way 23 years ago when I had a breakdown and I have felt a duty to pay that forward ever since." | |||
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"I do worry at times about people sharing too much about their depression on an internet site. I think it can be a great way of sharing experience and really help.... but I also believe, you risk putting yourself out there for the exploiters of others, those who befriend the vulnerable for their own good . and they exist They do, I don't deny that. I have spent so long advocating for openness about mental health issues that I cannot see a thread like this without saying 'me too - you are not alone'. It part of my failings but I know this approach has helped at least 8 people. Someone helped me in this way 23 years ago when I had a breakdown and I have felt a duty to pay that forward ever since." Well done you . If the idiots wish to pray on peolpe then I hope there genitals get infected with crabs and there arms aren't long enough to itch them !!!! Self abusing tossers!!!!! | |||
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"Not me, and I have had all the life's big events thrown at me at various times in the past few years. Having good resilience and positive mental attitude helped me bounced back when I was low. I kept myself busy to keep me going. I cannot change the past, however I can influence the future, and shall enjoy the present the best I can. Not really sure what you are saying in this post ? Depression isnt always connected to difficult or traumatic life events. Neither is it defeated by risiliance or a positive mental attitude or by keeping busy. I also think you are mistaken if you think you can influence the future, although you are right about not being able to change the past, you can change how you think about the past. Please carry on enjoying the present though. In reality this second right here is the only place we ever really have any influence. Cheers cliff , peolpe see it as weak mindedness , and cheer up be positive lol .... I just hope they never ever have to visit this god awful place !!!!! ??" | |||
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"Not me, and I have had all the life's big events thrown at me at various times in the past few years. Having good resilience and positive mental attitude helped me bounced back when I was low. I kept myself busy to keep me going. I cannot change the past, however I can influence the future, and shall enjoy the present the best I can. Not really sure what you are saying in this post ? Depression isnt always connected to difficult or traumatic life events. Neither is it defeated by risiliance or a positive mental attitude or by keeping busy. I also think you are mistaken if you think you can influence the future, although you are right about not being able to change the past, you can change how you think about the past. Please carry on enjoying the present though. In reality this second right here is the only place we ever really have any influence. Have you been reading 'the power of now'? " Not sure how you made that connection I was a practising Buddhist for a good few years and the meditation and philosophy , especially on the self helped me enormously. However i have read "the power of now " which basically seems a mish mash of Buddhism, philosophy and other religions. It got a bit to airy fairy for me in many places although i wouldnt dismiss the book as a useful tool. | |||
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"Not me, and I have had all the life's big events thrown at me at various times in the past few years. Having good resilience and positive mental attitude helped me bounced back when I was low. I kept myself busy to keep me going. I cannot change the past, however I can influence the future, and shall enjoy the present the best I can. Not really sure what you are saying in this post ? Depression isnt always connected to difficult or traumatic life events. Neither is it defeated by risiliance or a positive mental attitude or by keeping busy. I also think you are mistaken if you think you can influence the future, although you are right about not being able to change the past, you can change how you think about the past. Please carry on enjoying the present though. In reality this second right here is the only place we ever really have any influence. Cheers cliff , peolpe see it as weak mindedness , and cheer up be positive lol .... I just hope they never ever have to visit this god awful place !!!!! ??" My pleasure m8, someone had to say something and that person is usually me It has always helped me to remember that all conditions pass, they are temporary and impermanent no matter if it joy or sadness | |||
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"i had depression a few yrs ago after suffering a miscarriage, was an awful time, i was prescribed citalapram which helped alot, i dont believe there is a cure for depression maybe a stablizer i have my ups and down's but im doing much better now. " I took citalapram for a time , made me feel like I had a cold so changed to sertraline xxx good luck to you | |||
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"i had depression a few yrs ago after suffering a miscarriage, was an awful time, i was prescribed citalapram which helped alot, i dont believe there is a cure for depression maybe a stablizer i have my ups and down's but im doing much better now. I took citalapram for a time , made me feel like I had a cold so changed to sertraline xxx good luck to you " thanks, tried amatriptaline first but that just made me itchy! all over! not a good look walking down the street scratching myself lol. trial and error really friend of mine tried 3 different meds till one worked for her | |||
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"Ive had it on and off since I was 18. was sectioned for 9 months and had to take 15 tablets a day and lots of counselling, now not on anything first time in years and find it hard at time but dont want to go back to doctor. Im quite chuffed I dont take anything now, I just try to keep myself occupied when im feeling low " ah well done x | |||
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"I'm on Citalopram (sp?), have been for years. Sometimes I feel better, so the doc takes me off it, then it creeps back up on you again (I rarely notice it myself, much as I rarely notice the meds making me better but Mrs JFL can spot the symptoms easily) I'm now on a 12 month repeat prescription." thats what I got off doc | |||
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"I've suffered really bad from it for past 4 years I'd say,when good things are happening I cry if ppl around me are happy I cry,me& my partner went thru a break up this time last ur which went on for few months my family plotted in my head to leave him so I did after months of torture from them I then meet someone else even tho I knew deep down I didn't want it I done it to kinda plz my family my partner then got in with a lass from work and I was deverstated he said he never slept with her etc but it still gets me rock bottom now!ill never know apparently she's left his work my biggest worry now is will she some how contact him I'm so worried all time I had a break down just cple months ago went to doc he give me medication but I was scared to take it having two young children one with autism I needed to be strong but it still all hits me every day and he keeps sayin for me not to worry etc don't know if its just me worrying or if I have a right to worry ((( just so frightened don't want anyone to ever come between my little family again and so confused do I wait and risk it happening " I think they call it flight or flight.... Medication is there to produce a bigger chemical reaction in your brain with the neurons . These help you cope with everyday life . Your fear of losing your family, is something that I don't think everyone thinks about. It can happen in a moment and , as I found out , your whole perception on life can change overnight . I now believe that things do happen for a reason , although at the time you think just leave me alone. Don't be scared or embarrassed to take tablets or seek help. This illness is encompassed with huge stigma attached to it , and slowly but surely the world us getting used to it as a general not taboo illness. Tablets will help and it will take a few weeks for you to feel the benefit , but keep at it, all will come good . As fir your family . Too much worry and possible jealousy will also put a strain on the rekationship..... Good luck to you and all my love | |||
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"I've suffered really bad from it for past 4 years I'd say,when good things are happening I cry if ppl around me are happy I cry,me& my partner went thru a break up this time last ur which went on for few months my family plotted in my head to leave him so I did after months of torture from them I then meet someone else even tho I knew deep down I didn't want it I done it to kinda plz my family my partner then got in with a lass from work and I was deverstated he said he never slept with her etc but it still gets me rock bottom now!ill never know apparently she's left his work my biggest worry now is will she some how contact him I'm so worried all time I had a break down just cple months ago went to doc he give me medication but I was scared to take it having two young children one with autism I needed to be strong but it still all hits me every day and he keeps sayin for me not to worry etc don't know if its just me worrying or if I have a right to worry ((( just so frightened don't want anyone to ever come between my little family again and so confused do I wait and risk it happening " Take your time. Let the citalopram do it's work and keep talking to your partner. Trust takes time to rebuild but sometimes you just have to make the decision to trust again. | |||
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"I'm on Citalopram (sp?), have been for years. Sometimes I feel better, so the doc takes me off it, then it creeps back up on you again (I rarely notice it myself, much as I rarely notice the meds making me better but Mrs JFL can spot the symptoms easily) I'm now on a 12 month repeat prescription.thats what I got off doc " Seems to do the job of levelling me out without any side effects whatsoever, apart from feeling tired for the first few days after I start taking them...which obviously isn't an issue anymore. I now just constantly feel tired because a) I'm an old fart and b) I keep agreeing to do airport runs for friends at stupid O'Clock in the morning | |||
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"I have severe bipolar type 1 rapid cycle syndrome. Rapid cycle syndrome means my moods can literally change by the hour or by days. So depression is a symptom of my illness. I was diagnosed at 15 with depression, i was terrible as a teenager, it wasnt until i was in my twenties that i was diagnosed as having manic depression(thats what they called it then) so id been running round for 5 years with it undiagnosed, no wonder i was so out of control. Ive been sectioned 9 times and i take about 18 tablets a day, some are anti depressants, some are mood stabilizers and some are anti psycotic. I also take one which is supposed to get rid of side affects. Its flaming hard work getting through the days and as someone said earlier you cant see the illness so you wouldnt know they had it. Good news is i havent been in hospital for 6 years now and im generally more stable than i have ever been. Its a vile illness and i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. But i dont know life any differently." Sounds just like my mum was | |||
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" They do, I don't deny that. I have spent so long advocating for openness about mental health issues that I cannot see a thread like this without saying 'me too - you are not alone'. It part of my failings but I know this approach has helped at least 8 people. Someone helped me in this way 23 years ago when I had a breakdown and I have felt a duty to pay that forward ever since." | |||
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"I did a few years back anxiety,panic attacks depression was on anti d's which did the job.. Over last few months starting to get it back again,been trying to deal with it myself as don't want to take pills again. Mrs keeps telling me though i should go see the doctor ... What can i say stubborn male !! " They say that 1 in 4 people suffer from some form of mental illness throughout their lives. I'm surrounded by it in its most severest form, luckily I've only suffered a mental breakdown once... But it really is a common illness. The most interesting is manic depression as sometimes the actual high mood swings are more occurrant than the lows. This is when we tend to look for more excitement and take risks in order to relieve boredom in our lives. So, long and short of it is... I think attitudes towards mental illness are rapidly changing and people are more accepting and understanding than they used to be. Just call me Doctor Ali xxx | |||
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"This is what I love about this forum. Some threads silly, some shouty... but then there are threads like this that are helpful kind and informative. I take my hat off to those who have come forward to tell their story" I completely agree with you here. It still takes courage to come forward and also I think that "using" other people as one of several resources is a good thing. | |||
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"Kinky.. My heart goes out to you, reading that has got me in tears!! Your very brave for sharing Xx" +1 | |||
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"Kinky.. My heart goes out to you, reading that has got me in tears!! Your very brave for sharing Xx" +2 its shocking when you are at your lowest of your low they treat you like that. | |||
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"Kinky.. My heart goes out to you, reading that has got me in tears!! Your very brave for sharing Xx" Sorry it was so long. It's been a Hell of a ride. It kills me to be called a benefit scrounger when I've put in so much effort to try and get back to work. Maybe I should write a book. I could certainly write one about the problems with the welfare system in this country, why the "getting people back to work" policies won't work and how "the system" is failing a huge number of people. | |||
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"Kinky.. My heart goes out to you, reading that has got me in tears!! Your very brave for sharing Xx Sorry it was so long. It's been a Hell of a ride. It kills me to be called a benefit scrounger when I've put in so much effort to try and get back to work. Maybe I should write a book. I could certainly write one about the problems with the welfare system in this country, why the "getting people back to work" policies won't work and how "the system" is failing a huge number of people." It sounds it and i completely understand where your coming from. Putting pen to paper would certainly shock the ignorant people of the world!! X | |||
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"Kinky.. My heart goes out to you, reading that has got me in tears!! Your very brave for sharing Xx Sorry it was so long. It's been a Hell of a ride. It kills me to be called a benefit scrounger when I've put in so much effort to try and get back to work. Maybe I should write a book. I could certainly write one about the problems with the welfare system in this country, why the "getting people back to work" policies won't work and how "the system" is failing a huge number of people." Kinky - 1. DO NOT call yourself a benefit scrounger. They are people who have never paid a penny into the system, have taken it for all it's worth and have no intention of ever contributing to it - and that is NOT you!!! 2. Personally, I think you have hit the nail on the head about writing. You clearly have a talent for it. Why don't you use it as a form of therapy? A lot of people do. Your threads and contributions on here tell me you have a creative mind and can transfer it to paper. GO FOR IT!!! I KNOW you can do it. Hugs Pork xxxx | |||
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"Kinky.. My heart goes out to you, reading that has got me in tears!! Your very brave for sharing Xx Sorry it was so long. It's been a Hell of a ride. It kills me to be called a benefit scrounger when I've put in so much effort to try and get back to work. Maybe I should write a book. I could certainly write one about the problems with the welfare system in this country, why the "getting people back to work" policies won't work and how "the system" is failing a huge number of people. Kinky - 1. DO NOT call yourself a benefit scrounger. They are people who have never paid a penny into the system, have taken it for all it's worth and have no intention of ever contributing to it - and that is NOT you!!! 2. Personally, I think you have hit the nail on the head about writing. You clearly have a talent for it. Why don't you use it as a form of therapy? A lot of people do. Your threads and contributions on here tell me you have a creative mind and can transfer it to paper. GO FOR IT!!! I KNOW you can do it. Hugs Pork xxxx Or maybe when your up to it train as a councilor I think you would be excellent at it. And for all those judgemental fuckers just put two fingers up to them you are worth a million of them x" | |||
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"A HUGE THANKYOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS SHARED AND AIRED THEIR INNERMOST DETAILS...... My heart goes out to all of you. And thankyou for all of you who have supported those of us who live with this horrible illness on a daily basis . Take care to all of you , and I hope your lives get better, I really don't think mine can fall any further to be honest xxx You can either get kicked down and stay down or get up dust yourself off and come back fighting stronger x Fully understand what you are saying but sadly it's easier said than done. That's the problem with this it keeps rearing its ugly head. No matter how many times you brush yourself your ability to actually do something about it is very much impaired by depression. Sorry but it's hard to put in words but I am sure peolpe understand where I am coming from. Xx" My choir has the strapline 'because singing makes you happy'. It certainly helps. | |||
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"I have suffered depression for many years, but many of them in silence. I have been through physical and mental abuse since the age of 8 at the hands of the people that are supposed to love you move than anything in the world. I thought i was getting on top of it but then i had my lovely daughter whom is disabled and it is only the last 12yrs that i have sought help counselors etc. My medication is still on the high side and i have manged to lay a lot to rest by facing certain demons. It's not something that goes away and i ADMIRE anyone that puts their hands up and says "Hey i have a problem help me"... Common or not i am not ashamed to have a good cry in the face of it all.... Just pleased to be here still for my lovely children when things could have gone so horribly wrong !!! (Perky)" "More not move" | |||
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"Another aspect is anxiety which is a big thing can be masked with depression. But anxiety is a huge thing x" Suffered for yrs with anxiety too, i couldn't go to the shops, pubs or any social event with more than 5-10 people , tried many different forms of medication and cognital behaviour therapies but nothing helped, a very good friend recomended a hypnotist in southampton, and i have to say that i had just 3 sessions with her and i was like a new person, she totally turned my life around for the better, i can never thank her enough x | |||
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"Looks like the thread is still live ..... Well another day another dollar. Took the 150mg of sertraline this morning again!!!! It's what's stops the Main depression kicking in fully . Can't go anywhere tax run out on car and no money to travel lol, oh well still breathing . Feel a little down today , and am trying to rise above it all by finding something to do to take my mind off it. Family seem to have noticed me going backwards right now, but as we all know its sometimes hard to talk/upset peolpe with your down times. Everyday right now just seems to be the same as the last and can't but feel I am on an infuriating roundabout that continues to spin. I had everything 19 months back beautiful wife , great job, lovely home, family around me , happiness..... Now I Have my health ish , which is better than some..... Today's going to be one if those days but hey , you get used to it, sorry that's wrong, you simply live with it !!!! Thanks for your time, and for listening As one person said earlier, the chance of me actually meeting now is probably non existent but I needed to share this xxx ??" **** 10 months ago not 19 | |||
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"Another aspect is anxiety which is a big thing can be masked with depression. But anxiety is a huge thing x" Your so right my dad died last week and its like my world has come apart. we was so close .. the love of my life my dad. I know time helps and graving is normal. | |||
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"Hi there , very personal question but how many peolpe on here suffer from depression. I have had it for years and was curious as to what percentage of peolpe have . Please don't leave any stupid answers, it's not funny and it takes a lot to admit to, and no , I am not embarrassed about it, it's made me exactly who I am and I am proud to be me xxxx So proud you have to shout about it and let everyone know you have it? Posting a thread about it says exactly the opposite, that you are struggling with it and need to know you're not isolated. I don't understand depression at all. We all have off days but you only have to look at the world around you to realise there is always someone somewhere else who's worse off. Whenever I hear people with 'depression' talking about it it always comes back to whenever something bad happens to them that it's a case of 'I have depression and need concessions to allow for it'. These people need to stop relying on an emotional crutch and grow some balls and get on with life." Sorry but are you saying that peolpe with diagnosed depression need to grow balls and get on with it or the peolpe who are just feeling down?? Because these are two totally different things | |||
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"Wishy, depression is an illness. As for the "need to tell people about it", this attitude that it's something to be ashamed of and kept hidden is part of the problem. Telling depressed people to pull their socks up, or grow some balls, is ignorance and a total lack of compassion at the most extreme end of the scale. You're right, you clearly don't understand it." Maybe she's right, maybe I am weak and pathetic. Pretty much how I feel anyway ......... She's probably hit the nail on the head, waste of space and useless x | |||
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"Hi there , very personal question but how many peolpe on here suffer from depression. I have had it for years and was curious as to what percentage of peolpe have . Please don't leave any stupid answers, it's not funny and it takes a lot to admit to, and no , I am not embarrassed about it, it's made me exactly who I am and I am proud to be me xxxx So proud you have to shout about it and let everyone know you have it? Posting a thread about it says exactly the opposite, that you are struggling with it and need to know you're not isolated. I don't understand depression at all. We all have off days but you only have to look at the world around you to realise there is always someone somewhere else who's worse off. Whenever I hear people with 'depression' talking about it it always comes back to whenever something bad happens to them that it's a case of 'I have depression and need concessions to allow for it'. These people need to stop relying on an emotional crutch and grow some balls and get on with life." I like to think this site is not just about sex ... its about caring for others too even if you dont know them only from reading a post here. And getting a insight into others lifes .. and we all know life its not always a bed of roses .Most posts here you look at think oooo no again or a look at me post ... this is a post a man is being open about feeling and his life and its not bad its a good thing as others see they are not alone. | |||
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"Wishy, depression is an illness. As for the "need to tell people about it", this attitude that it's something to be ashamed of and kept hidden is part of the problem. Telling depressed people to pull their socks up, or grow some balls, is ignorance and a total lack of compassion at the most extreme end of the scale. You're right, you clearly don't understand it. Maybe she's right, maybe I am weak and pathetic. Pretty much how I feel anyway ......... She's probably hit the nail on the head, waste of space and useless x " Your not your a man who just come to a place in life ... that need a little help and understanding . Your not alone here .. as you see from others who post .. some think showing yourself it makes you vulnerable well i could not care as long as your letting it out and off your chest and it help and it will help others too , | |||
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"I recently went to my GP, after denying for years, that I might have drepression (and have symtoms of social anxiety too). I was asked the usual questions and asked to fill in the questionnaire, which turned out to be high. I was asked what I wanted to do. I said no medication, just want someone to talk to. Was given a referal form to see a psychiatrist and don't know how long that will take. If a member of my family did not have depression, I doubt I would have realised that I have and just wonder why I'm feeling the way I'm feeling. " Can't be more help apart from its a chemical inbalance in the brain, that's why the tablets help/combat it. There is no answer for the way you feel. Your life could be 100% perfect yet you will always have something that could be causing you to have depression, it's not something that can be turned on and off . The slightest thing can set it off, I remember standing in the kitchen and dropping a mug. Floods of tears next stating I don't know why ... My heart goes out to you but to pinpoint why you feel this way...... Sometimes you will never know , it's an illness that's causing it , nothing to do with what or how your doing things xxxx | |||
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"Wishy, I think in your opening line which says, "I don't understand depression at all" it basically sums you up in one phrase.... you don't know what it is all about!!!! The problem is that in today's modern male thinking, the tendency is that guys bottle up their emotions; it's like saying real guys don't need to see their GP or experts, they sort out their own problems! I went through this years ago; I'd been unemployed for over a year, had immense money worries and so on, and was ill every week with something or other. I lived alone, had no one to turn to and I was at an all time low. Then I saw an article in a paper; it actually was about how constant illness and trips to the GP could actually have an underlying cause. I completed a questionnaire completing every question with a Yes, it made me think. I saw my GP; he agreed I should see someone and within a fortnight, I was seeing preofessional counsellors. They diagnosed depression and anxiety; they got me the help I needed, but the one main factor they described was... getting to admit to my GP I needed help, instead of following the Macho theme of "real men don't need to see someone, they sort out their own problems!" So, Wishy, live in your own little world but don't pontificate on something you obviously don't have a clue about - after all, you admitted it in your first few words! " BLOODY WELL SAID !!!!!! | |||
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" So proud you have to shout about it and let everyone know you have it? Posting a thread about it says exactly the opposite, that you are struggling with it and need to know you're not isolated. I don't understand depression at all. We all have off days but you only have to look at the world around you to realise there is always someone somewhere else who's worse off. Whenever I hear people with 'depression' talking about it it always comes back to whenever something bad happens to them that it's a case of 'I have depression and need concessions to allow for it'. These people need to stop relying on an emotional crutch and grow some balls and get on with life." Even for you Wishy that is low and so lacking in any sort of empathy for others who are suffering an illness.. i dont have it personally but i know people who do, and they have bigger bollocks than i or you will ever have.. its an ILLNESS same as cancer is an ILLNESS and sadly it can have the same dire consequenses.. yes agree we all have bad days etc, but what gives you the right to tell someone to 'grow a set'.. 'heaven' forbid one of your loved ones suffers from it, they clearly could'nt speak to you could they? a disgusting and ignorant post Wishy, well out of order.. | |||
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"Hi there , very personal question but how many peolpe on here suffer from depression. I have had it for years and was curious as to what percentage of peolpe have . Please don't leave any stupid answers, it's not funny and it takes a lot to admit to, and no , I am not embarrassed about it, it's made me exactly who I am and I am proud to be me xxxx So proud you have to shout about it and let everyone know you have it? Posting a thread about it says exactly the opposite, that you are struggling with it and need to know you're not isolated. I don't understand depression at all. We all have off days but you only have to look at the world around you to realise there is always someone somewhere else who's worse off. Whenever I hear people with 'depression' talking about it it always comes back to whenever something bad happens to them that it's a case of 'I have depression and need concessions to allow for it'. These people need to stop relying on an emotional crutch and grow some balls and get on with life." If I had to make a stab in the dark, I would think someone is in a bit of denial... | |||
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"Also I think it is very important that you insist to your GP that you are referred to a psychiatrist in order for the correct diagnosis to be made. GP's simply do not know enough about it, and can often misdiagnose Bipolar, and the varying types of depression, they don't always put you on the correct medication or quantity which can be damaging to the suffer." I can relate to that fully, I was put on anti d's, but instead of helping me they made my moods worse, which then resulted in me seeing a psychiatrist to rule out Bi polar. Was refered to a brilliant organisation in Manchester, Mood swings, who have helped me out no end, as well as a psychologist. | |||
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"Lets just agree with all the negativity, We are all useless sad bastards who can't do anything with our lives , we are making the whole thing up, making a mountain out if a molehill, and the three physicians and specialists I have seen need to go back to university tj get there act together ....... The "black dog" that sir winston Churchill had following him never existed .... Good that's cleared that up . I am not ill and praise be its a miracle I am cured !!!!! " Deep breath in and let it out slowly. He has tapped into your insecurities and your mood today. You know, as I do, that you can't control what other people think and do. The only control you have is your response to them. Depression makes it difficult to control the response but try not to make it one that leaves you more upset. Read the supportive comments again. See how many people have shared their stories. Take a break from the forum. Feel better soon. | |||
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"just because wishy's _iew is different to other peoples, doesnt mean he should be slated for it. I agree with what he put across, everyone has shit in their life to deal with. But not everyone wallows in it, some folk just do have it in them to get on with everything life throws at them." I agree and Wishy's post hasn't offended me or yours for that matter. The phrase "ignorance is bliss" rings true here. Wishy has stated he doesn't understand depression, I assume that you are the same. The stigma that society still attaches to this illness is shocking. For people who do not understand what depression feels like, it is because you take for granted the ability that your brain will function as "normal". There is no one cause for depression and many, many types, it is hereditary, people with other illnesses that are inherited are not told to pull themselves together, it is after all not their fault they have been born with a condition. It can be caused by chemical imbalances in your brain, it is not fully understood why such imbalances occur, again cancer strikes many people in this country, they are not told to get over it as to why they were chosen to have the disease. It can be caused by trauma, not necessarily a physical trauma, but someone who has been in a car accident and is paralysed is not told to just get on with life. Post natal depression is very high, which is caused by extra hormones produced and therefore different chemicals in your brain are released creating an imbalance. Like a case in the news this week, of a mother who kills her own children while suffering from post natal depression, experts can prove this was due to the fact she did not have a fully functioning brain due to illness and did not have the capacity to perform a normal life. The brain is still not fully understood by scientists or medical staff, so for laymen/women to judge an illness that does affect your brain, without their _iew being based on fact is out of their mind. | |||
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" The brain is still not fully understood by scientists or medical staff, so for laymen/women to judge an illness that does affect your brain, without their _iew being based on fact is out of their mind. " You are exactly right with your final paragraph. Many people seem to think that, given a few pills, depression will just go away. That couldn't be more wrong. It takes years to treat and it is far from an exact science, often medications need to be changed and dosages altered, not to mention hours of counciling and therapy. I'm lucky, in that, when I suffered with PTSD it was fairly short term and not something that rears its head, but it has given me a massive insight into depression (and other mental illnesses) and I hope it makes me better and more understanding in my job. | |||
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"Kinky.. My heart goes out to you, reading that has got me in tears!! Your very brave for sharing Xx Sorry it was so long. It's been a Hell of a ride. It kills me to be called a benefit scrounger when I've put in so much effort to try and get back to work. Maybe I should write a book. I could certainly write one about the problems with the welfare system in this country, why the "getting people back to work" policies won't work and how "the system" is failing a huge number of people. Kinky - 1. DO NOT call yourself a benefit scrounger. They are people who have never paid a penny into the system, have taken it for all it's worth and have no intention of ever contributing to it - and that is NOT you!!! 2. Personally, I think you have hit the nail on the head about writing. You clearly have a talent for it. Why don't you use it as a form of therapy? A lot of people do. Your threads and contributions on here tell me you have a creatgive mind and can transfer it to paper. GO FOR IT!!! I KNOW you can do it. Hugs Pork xxxx" Kinky, you must write that book!!! Will save many lives and by bravely telling your story, you are encouraging others who suffer in silence... Read a book by Eckhart Tolle A New Earth who was homeless on a park bench before writing his book... People express themselves in many ways and this is one of them being on a swinging site... I have had bouts of depression through experiencing childhood illnesses and bereavements of so many close ones from a young age. Yet I use dance therapy such as 5 rhythmns and herbal medicine such as ginkgo and chamomile as well music to heal when feeling low. Good supportive friends and family so helps. Worked in mental health service for several years and it is tough to make your voice heard. People's recovery journeys need to be heard to inspire. To the OP thanks for starting this thread again as well as the other people for sharing their stories as they are an inspiration to so many. Ebony b) | |||
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"after reading wishes profile i think they have a few underlined problems going on them selfs lol " I have noticed wishy doing a similar thing on other threads. Being provocative and attacking the poster.Its a bit sad really, attention seeking and troll like. Then of course people attack wishy back. And then we get the defenders in. Then the post is highjacked. Seeing as this thread was popular and supportive can i suggest that we try to completely ignore wishy's ignorant and offensive post and his defenders and carry on like they dont exist. I would also appeal to anyone who doesnt understand depression and wants to rubbish it or be provocative in this thread to go play somewhere else and try and enjoy life rather than spreading misery | |||
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"after reading wishes profile i think they have a few underlined problems going on them selfs lol I have noticed wishy doing a similar thing on other threads. Being provocative and attacking the poster.Its a bit sad really, attention seeking and troll like. Then of course people attack wishy back. And then we get the defenders in. Then the post is highjacked. Seeing as this thread was popular and supportive can i suggest that we try to completely ignore wishy's ignorant and offensive post and his defenders and carry on like they dont exist. I would also appeal to anyone who doesnt understand depression and wants to rubbish it or be provocative in this thread to go play somewhere else and try and enjoy life rather than spreading misery " I would suggest then, that you stop highlighting said post, and it is an open forum where people will post what they choose to do so. You are waving a red rag at a bull, for no reason, if there is something posted you do not like, just post around it and ignore it. Making it a big issue will not help | |||
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"The truth is I am actually a write-off." Only because you think you are You’ve successfully beaten many of your challenges in life, and lived to tell the tale. Each challenge you now face, have the courage, dedication, and enthusiasm to beat it. Life itself is a challenge; we either succumb and accept defeat, or tackle the challenges head on. For those that are suffering with some form of “chaotic” lifestyles / issues, break the issues down, prioritise the issues between those that require immediate attention and those that don’t. Prioritising issues, into an a) b) c) list will assist those finding it difficult to unscramble their mind. | |||
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"My depression is a symptom of a more serious MH diagnosis that is life long and cant really be treated. They say that depression is anger turned in on itself. i recognise that about me. But also i recognise that sometimes i kid myself im better because i manage to turn that anger outward onto the world. Just wondered if anyone has a similar experience ?" Yes, I recognise that. I try and use the outward anger in as positive a way as possible. Social injustice keeps me busy. | |||
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"My depression is a symptom of a more serious MH diagnosis that is life long and cant really be treated. They say that depression is anger turned in on itself. i recognise that about me. But also i recognise that sometimes i kid myself im better because i manage to turn that anger outward onto the world. Just wondered if anyone has a similar experience ? Yes, I recognise that. I try and use the outward anger in as positive a way as possible. Social injustice keeps me busy." Thanks. Im similar in that social injustice keeps me busy to. Praps the present govt needs a few of us I find myself in a spiral sometimes tho. Putting anger outside of myself often upsets people and then of course i self loathe because i hurt people. Thankfully i try to keep my humour even in the darkest times. | |||
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"The truth is I am actually a write-off. Only because you think you are You’ve successfully beaten many of your challenges in life, and lived to tell the tale. Each challenge you now face, have the courage, dedication, and enthusiasm to beat it. Life itself is a challenge; we either succumb and accept defeat, or tackle the challenges head on. For those that are suffering with some form of “chaotic” lifestyles / issues, break the issues down, prioritise the issues between those that require immediate attention and those that don’t. Prioritising issues, into an a) b) c) list will assist those finding it difficult to unscramble their mind. " Thank you for this. I should clarify my statement which was very unclear. What I meant is that I'm seen, too often, as a write-off. I don't consider myself to be a write-off at all. I continue to fight my corner with everything available to me. When I am settled there may be an additional thread discussing what it took to get the help I needed. I also have plans to campaign for some changes. I need to be housed and in a stable environment before I start that but I am absolutely determined that good will come of what I've been through. If I can make things that bit easier for other people in my situation, I can't say it will have been worth it but it will help somewhat with the bitter taste in my mouth. When it isn't making me furiously indignant, people claiming those with mental health issues are weak make me laugh. If I'm weak, Ryan's a vegetarian. | |||
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"cant be doing with people sticking up for "wishy's" ignorant provocative post." If that is to me I didn't stick up for Wishy's _iews. I did however say that EVERYONE has a right to air their _iews within the forum rules. | |||
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" Thats when i shut myself away and the reason i spend so long on the computer as quite a lot of the time i am not able to leave the house on my own except locally. Im ok with someone with me most of the time." I get like this too, sometimes for weeks at a time. The worst phase lasted 3 months. I couldn't even go into the garden. Some people just did not/do not understand. What do you mean you can't leave the house? You're physically able, stand up, put one foot in front of the other, open the door and step through it. It sounds so simple yet sometimes wild horses couldn't drag me through that door. There's no specific fear there just a total mental block about doing it. There may as well be an actually force field preventing me. | |||
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" Thats when i shut myself away and the reason i spend so long on the computer as quite a lot of the time i am not able to leave the house on my own except locally. Im ok with someone with me most of the time. I get like this too, sometimes for weeks at a time. The worst phase lasted 3 months. I couldn't even go into the garden. Some people just did not/do not understand. What do you mean you can't leave the house? You're physically able, stand up, put one foot in front of the other, open the door and step through it. It sounds so simple yet sometimes wild horses couldn't drag me through that door. There's no specific fear there just a total mental block about doing it. There may as well be an actually force field preventing me." I call it my magic wall, as i cant get through it, the worst is when i cant get in the bath or shower(thankfully that doesnt happen often now) my mum has to come round and make me a sandwich as i pysically cant make one. Took me three years to put the christmas tree up, as for two years on the trot i just couldnt do it. I dont blame people for being ignorant, if someone doesnt know about mental illness. But it would be nice if such people listened to what people who suffer have to say | |||
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"Diamond, you could be describing me. It's uncannily similar to my own experiences." Did you watch the programme stephen fry did? I have the dvd and one of the ladies that was speaking could of been me speaking it was so just like me | |||
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