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"Growing up in Samoa. It bored me rigid." Sure it wasn't New Guinea? | |||
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"Anything by Shakespeare. Why does the literary world suck his ass? It's soooooo boring. Even the dummies versions" Macbeth was alright | |||
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"What spoiled a lot of books for me was the lengthy disection and critical appreciation. Fine if you can do it over the course of a week but half a term a few chapters at a time was tedious" ^^^This! Absolutely hated "To Kill A Mockingbird" for this reason and also the reason I don't particularly care for poetry. | |||
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"What spoiled a lot of books for me was the lengthy disection and critical appreciation. Fine if you can do it over the course of a week but half a term a few chapters at a time was tedious ^^^This! Absolutely hated "To Kill A Mockingbird" for this reason and also the reason I don't particularly care for poetry." I've still got my Tennyson from school, with notes in the margins. It's interesting to look back on but my god couldn't we have done it in a tenth of the time? | |||
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"Middlemarch was utterly turgid" If I ever finish my novel, I'll let posterity decide if it is better. | |||
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"Kes" The Film is called Kes, the Book is called Kestrel for a knave. We did it at my first high school, whenI was 13. The film was bloody good and set me up for other Brit flicks and kitchen dramas. As for the worst book, it had to be the bible. There! I said it! Dickens along with Billy the Brummie bard/soap opera writer is far too overated. | |||
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"Middlemarch was utterly turgid If I ever finish my novel, I'll let posterity decide if it is better." Middlemarch is a fantastic book. | |||
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" ^^^This! Absolutely hated "To Kill A Mockingbird" for this reason and also the reason I don't particularly care for poetry." I've always been slightly amused by the number of young people who, when asked what is their favourite book reply "To Kill A Mockingbird". If the truth be known, it is probably the only book they know, because it was the GCSE set book. What else would the be likely to have read? | |||
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" ^^^This! Absolutely hated "To Kill A Mockingbird" for this reason and also the reason I don't particularly care for poetry. I've always been slightly amused by the number of young people who, when asked what is their favourite book reply "To Kill A Mockingbird". If the truth be known, it is probably the only book they know, because it was the GCSE set book. What else would the be likely to have read?" What tosh. Children read plenty of books (then and now). It just so happens TKAMB has been on the GCSE curriculum for decades and so it can either be a source of great wonder (for some), or deep dislike (in my case). We studied The Merchant of Venice too, but I don't mind that. The poetry anthology did scupper what bit of interest I had in poetry though. I've always been scientifically minded anyway. I was the child who ran out of school reading books and had books specially brought in for me by teachers. I was the child who read under the covers with a little torch purchased from the Ellesmere Port Boat Museum and can probably tell you the total cover to cover content of anything written by Roald Dahl, Enid Blyton and various other. Our house is so full of books that we have nowhere to put them, so not sure what you are trying to imply, in all honesty. | |||
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"Great Expectations by Charles Dickens. Such unnecessary and complicated sentence structures that I just found it tough to grasp the full story and subtext in any a lot of the writing. Probably says more about my intelligence and ability but it was hard to read nevertheless " I HATED that book and won't ever read it again. Urgh. | |||
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" ... What tosh. Children read plenty of books (then and now). It just so happens TKAMB has been on the GCSE curriculum for decades and so it can either be a source of great wonder (for some), or deep dislike (in my case). We studied The Merchant of Venice too, but I don't mind that. The poetry anthology did scupper what bit of interest I had in poetry though. I've always been scientifically minded anyway. I was the child who ran out of school reading books and had books specially brought in for me by teachers. I was the child who read under the covers with a little torch purchased from the Ellesmere Port Boat Museum and can probably tell you the total cover to cover content of anything written by Roald Dahl, Enid Blyton and various other. Our house is so full of books that we have nowhere to put them, so not sure what you are trying to imply, in all honesty. " I was TIC to an extent. Like you I was an avid reader in a book laden environment. The point I was making is that that environment is becoming a thing of the past and that compulsory reading could comprise the lion's share. As an aside, there was probably very little Shakespeare which didn't come my way, including productions over 30 or so years. So much so that an ex girl friend once said to me "Just because you've read all Shakespeare's books...". To which I replied "He only wrote one and it is in my bookcase over there. The Complete Works". | |||
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"A book called Fahrenheit 451 Absolute trash & really sinister (futuristic setting where firemen burned books, paper burns at 451°) I just wish schools could move on, the poor kids are still reading the same literature." 'The temperature at which paper burns!' - that's always stuck with me! I'm with you; I hated this in school, but I hate sci-fi so maybe that's why. But considering it was written in the 1950s (I think!) it is quite amazing how close to the mark some of the stuff about just wanting a massive TV has proved! | |||
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"A book called Fahrenheit 451 Absolute trash & really sinister (futuristic setting where firemen burned books, paper burns at 451°) I just wish schools could move on, the poor kids are still reading the same literature. 'The temperature at which paper burns!' - that's always stuck with me! I'm with you; I hated this in school, but I hate sci-fi so maybe that's why. But considering it was written in the 1950s (I think!) it is quite amazing how close to the mark some of the stuff about just wanting a massive TV has proved!" And I'm sure there was more to it than the massive TVs, but that's also pretty much all that stuck! | |||
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"1984 was a class read for English Lit. Typical George Orwell, - depressing as anything " Think that was the point of the novel! | |||
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"A book called Fahrenheit 451 Absolute trash & really sinister (futuristic setting where firemen burned books, paper burns at 451°) I just wish schools could move on, the poor kids are still reading the same literature. 'The temperature at which paper burns!' - that's always stuck with me! I'm with you; I hated this in school, but I hate sci-fi so maybe that's why. But considering it was written in the 1950s (I think!) it is quite amazing how close to the mark some of the stuff about just wanting a massive TV has proved!" You are the only other living human who remembers this we had to watch the film too!! | |||
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"A book called Fahrenheit 451 Absolute trash & really sinister (futuristic setting where firemen burned books, paper burns at 451°) I just wish schools could move on, the poor kids are still reading the same literature. 'The temperature at which paper burns!' - that's always stuck with me! I'm with you; I hated this in school, but I hate sci-fi so maybe that's why. But considering it was written in the 1950s (I think!) it is quite amazing how close to the mark some of the stuff about just wanting a massive TV has proved! You are the only other living human who remembers this we had to watch the film too!! " Oh god, I'm sure we did too! And that felt weird as the film itself was about 30 years old by the time we watched it! How they thought it was the right stuff to engage teenagers I don't know! | |||
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"Best: Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson. Excellent story and characters. Worst: Stupid White Men and Other Sorry Excuses For The State Of The Nation. Race baiting Liberal apologetics." You read SWM at school?? | |||
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"Best: Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson. Excellent story and characters. Worst: Stupid White Men and Other Sorry Excuses For The State Of The Nation. Race baiting Liberal apologetics. You read SWM at school?? " Ahh at school. Missed that part, haha. No didn't read that at school. Wasn't that long after though. | |||
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"A book called Fahrenheit 451 Absolute trash & really sinister (futuristic setting where firemen burned books, paper burns at 451°) I just wish schools could move on, the poor kids are still reading the same literature. 'The temperature at which paper burns!' - that's always stuck with me! I'm with you; I hated this in school, but I hate sci-fi so maybe that's why. But considering it was written in the 1950s (I think!) it is quite amazing how close to the mark some of the stuff about just wanting a massive TV has proved! You are the only other living human who remembers this we had to watch the film too!! " I remember it, it's from the same generation that brought us A clockwork orannge and the like. | |||
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"A book called Fahrenheit 451 Absolute trash & really sinister (futuristic setting where firemen burned books, paper burns at 451°) I just wish schools could move on, the poor kids are still reading the same literature." I wish schools would move on and ban books that promote hatred, sexism, child gentialia mutiliation, war and sexual guilt. quick fetch me the Qoran, the torah and the bible, to name a few, then some petrol and a box of swan vestas | |||
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"A book called Fahrenheit 451 Absolute trash & really sinister (futuristic setting where firemen burned books, paper burns at 451°) " Fahrenheit 451 was my first venture into Ray Bradbury. It was by no means his best. The various short story compilations were far better. I think I read all his stuff as a teenager. From the school library of course. Head of English was also the librarian and steered me on a literature based career course. However, like kinky Couple2020, I was really a scientist at heart and when I was at college, right in the middle of studying 'Middlemarch' (which did absolutely nothing for me), I changed from being a student of English literature to doing development work at the college in the pioneering ETV faculty. Never looked back. New technology came to schools and I was in the vanguard of it and retired aged 52 just as PC grade and then Windows computers got established. Arts by education, scientist by inclination and with a good grounding in many subjects. For the last 25 years I have lazed in the sun and have not read a single novel. I just read the reviewers' résumés. Much less time consuming! All my accrued works of literature and poetry are boxed up and all visible and reachable books in my house are reference works of one sort or another, mainly technical. I never read 'To Kill a Mocking Bird'. It wasn't a set book in my day but I do remember Having to Read Le Père Goriot (in French) for French A level. Any kids having to do that now? | |||
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"Anything by Shakespeare. Why does the literary world suck his ass? It's soooooo boring. Even the dummies versions" Couldn't agree more! | |||
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"Anything by Shakespeare. Why does the literary world suck his ass? It's soooooo boring. Even the dummies versions Macbeth was alright" Machiavellian critique | |||
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"Of mice and men for English Lit... Steinbeck shouldn't be inflicted on those who enjoy reading. Talk about dry reading. Even the Film was better." I was just about to type, of mice and men | |||
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"In primary school we read The secret garden and goodnight mr Tom. Either of those is my worst. Loved all the stuff we did in secondary. Particularly Shakespeare. Actually as I’m typing I realise that although not a book, I hated A Miller’s Tale by Chaucer and actually wasn’t a huge fan of Regeneration by Pat Barker. " Ooh, i loved the secret garden. Didnt dislike any of the books i read in school. Have struggled with some that ive read since, anna karenina and crime and punishment come to mind, but i do preservere and always finish a book i start. Many older books are very hard to get into and not easy to read, but they do generally have a good story amd i have found it worth my while. X | |||
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"In primary school we read The secret garden and goodnight mr Tom. Either of those is my worst. Loved all the stuff we did in secondary. Particularly Shakespeare. Actually as I’m typing I realise that although not a book, I hated A Miller’s Tale by Chaucer and actually wasn’t a huge fan of Regeneration by Pat Barker. Ooh, i loved the secret garden. Didnt dislike any of the books i read in school. Have struggled with some that ive read since, anna karenina and crime and punishment come to mind, but i do preservere and always finish a book i start. Many older books are very hard to get into and not easy to read, but they do generally have a good story amd i have found it worth my while. X " AK I’ve heard is tough. I think the secret garden was also to do with the teacher we had and his attitudes surrounding teaching it. Maybe I should reread | |||
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"Plays often don't work as class readings. I did jumpers for A level and that just didn't work." True I agree but I think Shakespeare does. We also did street car named desire and that worked at A level but we had a small class to be fair | |||
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"Just remembered reading Gregory’s Girl in year 8 (or 2nd year as it was known then) the teacher making us read it out loud, taking it in turns. How to humiliate kids! " Not alf, Imagine if the teacher spotted who had a crush on a fewllow class member and got them to read aloud. That would be excruciatingly painful. | |||
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"Catch-22 by Joseph Heller. Bored me rigid and I really did not appreciate his literary style, nor the concept at all. Enjoyed all the others we studied however. 1984, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 454, The Go-Between, Cider With Rosie, the Hobbit, Shane, plus all the Shakespeare we did as well. But Catch-22...no thank you. " Catch-22 is my favourite book. I feel personally attacked | |||
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"Catch-22 is my favourite book. I feel personally attacked " I really liked it too, didnt do it at school though, we did lord of the flies, loved that one too. X | |||
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"In primary school we read The secret garden and goodnight mr Tom. Either of those is my worst. Loved all the stuff we did in secondary. Particularly Shakespeare. Actually as I’m typing I realise that although not a book, I hated A Miller’s Tale by Chaucer and actually wasn’t a huge fan of Regeneration by Pat Barker. Ooh, i loved the secret garden. Didnt dislike any of the books i read in school. Have struggled with some that ive read since, anna karenina and crime and punishment come to mind, but i do preservere and always finish a book i start. Many older books are very hard to get into and not easy to read, but they do generally have a good story amd i have found it worth my while. X AK I’ve heard is tough. I think the secret garden was also to do with the teacher we had and his attitudes surrounding teaching it. Maybe I should reread " I feel that I haven't read the secret garden. I was just being daft with my location! | |||
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" The dictionary.... "Catch-22 by Joseph Heller." Catch-22 is my favourite book. I feel personally attacked " I feel the same about the Dictionary! | |||
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"and tell me could you write better?" The best book I read in school was Schoolgirl frolics. Of course it wasn't on the curriculum and we only had one copy between 30 of us but it did the rounds! | |||
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"I can't remember what books I read at school, but non of the previously mentioned ring any bells with me. The only book I do remember reading I still have in my bookcase, as I "forgot" to return it when I left school. It is a technical book - The Fundamentals of Motor Vehicle Technology. " The librarian probably ordered several spare copies of that! | |||
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"Plays often don't work as class readings. I did jumpers for A level and that just didn't work." No love for jumpers? | |||
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"Plays often don't work as class readings...." Why not? If there are enough in the cast and roles can be rotated from time to time it keeps the little blighters awake so they don't miss a cue. | |||
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"and tell me could you write better?" I had the displeasure of reading "the consumer" by M Gira I used to think I have a dark mind, jut this book blows my imagination out of the water | |||
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"Far From The Madding Crowd. A turgid block of tedium and moral rectitude." Oh my word...I had mind-bleached that one, but we did a whole term on it. Another poster earlier mentioned "Lord of the Flies". That was another favourite which I found superb and essential reading. | |||
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"Of mice and men for English Lit... Steinbeck shouldn't be inflicted on those who enjoy reading. Talk about dry reading. Even the Film was better. I was just about to type, of mice and men " I lived Of Mice and Men, that whole era of history really interested me as well as the different themes the book presented | |||
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"Of mice and men for English Lit... Steinbeck shouldn't be inflicted on those who enjoy reading. Talk about dry reading. Even the Film was better. I was just about to type, of mice and men I lived Of Mice and Men, that whole era of history really interested me as well as the different themes the book presented " To this day I’ll make references to keeping my hand in a glove of Vaseline. Along with my curly hair I thought people might get the reference. None yet | |||
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"Of mice and men for English Lit... Steinbeck shouldn't be inflicted on those who enjoy reading. Talk about dry reading. Even the Film was better. I was just about to type, of mice and men I lived Of Mice and Men, that whole era of history really interested me as well as the different themes the book presented " Memories were admitted forced because we were forced to do 2 years of English Lit in less than 8 months. I just could never get into it, if I had an excuse to avoid it... The history behind the era is/was interesting just the book wasn't. | |||
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"Kes. Not a book to read if you’re feeling a bit down in the mouth." -At least you could watch the film though. Brian Glover on the football pitch was always funny to watch. | |||
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"My end of year report " You must have been a bad boy if it came in pages binded together. I'm hoping it was just the one volume. | |||
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" ^^^This! Absolutely hated "To Kill A Mockingbird" for this reason and also the reason I don't particularly care for poetry. I've always been slightly amused by the number of young people who, when asked what is their favourite book reply "To Kill A Mockingbird". If the truth be known, it is probably the only book they know, because it was the GCSE set book. What else would the be likely to have read?" For my sins it is about one of only a small handful of literature books I’ve ever read. I’m probably a philistine, but have alwas preferred factual books that convey knowledge or something hateful (skill that can be an earner) than something fictional - however enjoyable - serves little practical purpose. For the entertainment value would rather the TLDR medium of film. For the thought provocation would rather debate or something in more primary (philosophy textbook). English Lit was one of the most pointless GCSEs. Why it was mandatory J have no idea. Time would be better spent teaching another language or actually teaching the English language rules properly! Maths far easier and useful | |||
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" ... For my sins it is about one of only a small handful of literature books I’ve ever read. I’m probably a philistine, but have alwas preferred factual books that convey knowledge or something hateful (skill that can be an earner) than something fictional - however enjoyable - serves little practical purpose. For the entertainment value would rather the TLDR medium of film. For the thought provocation would rather debate or something in more primary (philosophy textbook). English Lit was one of the most pointless GCSEs. Why it was mandatory J have no idea. Time would be better spent teaching another language or actually teaching the English language rules properly! Maths far easier and useful " Not come across TLDR before but good to make its acquaintance. It was standard practice in the school where I worked to obtain the film for every set book, so many didn't need to trudge through the text if they weren't of the reading persuasion (to name another non favourite). | |||
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"The Canterbury Tales - some cracking, funny and sometimes rather saucy stories, but our teacher insisted we chant it in a ridiculous approximation of Middle English that made us sound like the policeman from Allo Allo. I think old Geoff Chaucer must be laughing his ass off beyond the grave every time he sees a new group of teenagers forced to read this aloud. " God Chaucer was ruined for me when I studied it at A level | |||
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"Another vote for Far from the Madding Crowd. Plus The Glass Menagerie. My teenage brain wasn't built for them nor Shakespeare. Later I found a BBC tv version of Macbeth set in a sinkhole estate outside Glasgow. It was exciting, violent and modern tho the script was the same 16th century language. Suddenly I got it. I went on to read Othello and went back to Romeo and Juliet and loved them. I just needed to be shown the relevance. Then I could understand the beauty of it. The vulgarity of some Shakespeare is hilarious, why did nobody translate it into something we could understand as kids?" --His plays have actually always have been translated in various ways, often cut for the times and more-recently modernised for the times. Currently we still teach the real thing though (thank god imo). I am happy with modern settings though, which I'm sure worked especially well with Macbeth. I fancy checking that out.. Those three plays (Mac, Oth and R&J) along with Julius Caesar may be his 3 easiest-to-follow plays imo, maybe I'd add As You Like It too. They are all absolute masterpieces. It's adding Midsummer Night's Dream to curriculums that I don't understand - it's definitely too hard for kids as it's just too complex and almost pure high poetry at times. It put me and Shakespeare back a few years I think. I'm sure they feel that the 'fantasy' theme will more likely work than not, but kids just aren't that fickle imo.--- | |||
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" ... For my sins it is about one of only a small handful of literature books I’ve ever read. I’m probably a philistine, but have alwas preferred factual books that convey knowledge or something hateful (skill that can be an earner) than something fictional - however enjoyable - serves little practical purpose. For the entertainment value would rather the TLDR medium of film. For the thought provocation would rather debate or something in more primary (philosophy textbook). English Lit was one of the most pointless GCSEs. Why it was mandatory J have no idea. Time would be better spent teaching another language or actually teaching the English language rules properly! Maths far easier and useful Not come across TLDR before but good to make its acquaintance. It was standard practice in the school where I worked to obtain the film for every set book, so many didn't need to trudge through the text if they weren't of the reading persuasion (to name another non favourite)." Persuasion isn't long you big wus lol | |||
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"Canterbury Tales was quite difficult and often boring. Our English teacher read some of it to us in the accent of the era which made it slightly more interesting. It was only when I read a version translated into modern day English that I appreciated it" I wonder if the accent of the era was passed down the generations by English Literature teachers? Chaucer's time was long before the advent even of wax cylinder recordings being made for posterity! | |||
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"Canterbury Tales was quite difficult and often boring. Our English teacher read some of it to us in the accent of the era which made it slightly more interesting. It was only when I read a version translated into modern day English that I appreciated it I wonder if the accent of the era was passed down the generations by English Literature teachers? Chaucer's time was long before the advent even of wax cylinder recordings being made for posterity!" Ok the presumed accent of the era. | |||
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"Of mice and men for English Lit... Steinbeck shouldn't be inflicted on those who enjoy reading. Talk about dry reading. Even the Film was better." Me too. Disturbing and dull at the same time. | |||
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