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"I've just seen an advert for the orange airline claiming all their flights are "carbon offset"... How does that work? What does it mean? Is it even meaningful? Does it stop their contribution to global pollution? Or is it just a token virtue signal? Where are all these carbon offsets stored? " It’s a financial transaction. You pay and someone may plant a tree or buy carbon offset allowances that are traded like shares. | |||
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"In my local area, it means big corporations buying farms and out pricing farmers. To then plants trees on the land. Which inevitably forces people out of work, will increase food prices and the UK having to import more food from abroad. How the heck does it all work really? " Well... That's my question. I mean seems to me if there are 115000 flights a day... And the principle is they plant fully grown trees or even saplings that in what? 50 years time will grow into trees to process the carbon dioxide... I mean where are all the trees being planted? If everything is carbon neutral how come we still have a problem? Or is it just a "fee" companies pay that has zero positive effect.? I mean if I get on a plane today and its "carbon offset"... Exactly what happens and when that "offsets" (whatever that means) the carbon from loading, flying, unloading, transferring me on that flight? | |||
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"In my local area, it means big corporations buying farms and out pricing farmers. To then plants trees on the land. Which inevitably forces people out of work, will increase food prices and the UK having to import more food from abroad. How the heck does it all work really? Well... That's my question. I mean seems to me if there are 115000 flights a day... And the principle is they plant fully grown trees or even saplings that in what? 50 years time will grow into trees to process the carbon dioxide... I mean where are all the trees being planted? If everything is carbon neutral how come we still have a problem? Or is it just a "fee" companies pay that has zero positive effect.? I mean if I get on a plane today and its "carbon offset"... Exactly what happens and when that "offsets" (whatever that means) the carbon from loading, flying, unloading, transferring me on that flight? " Nothing. It’s not possible, if it were there wouldn’t be a crisis | |||
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"In my local area, it means big corporations buying farms and out pricing farmers. To then plants trees on the land. Which inevitably forces people out of work, will increase food prices and the UK having to import more food from abroad. How the heck does it all work really? " OK but how do those "shares" benefit the enfironment or offset anything? Something has to be happening somewhere to reduce someone's carbon dioxide / monoxide being produced doesn't it? But we are flying more and more so where is the magic happening? | |||
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"In my local area, it means big corporations buying farms and out pricing farmers. To then plants trees on the land. Which inevitably forces people out of work, will increase food prices and the UK having to import more food from abroad. How the heck does it all work really? Well... That's my question. I mean seems to me if there are 115000 flights a day... And the principle is they plant fully grown trees or even saplings that in what? 50 years time will grow into trees to process the carbon dioxide... I mean where are all the trees being planted? If everything is carbon neutral how come we still have a problem? Or is it just a "fee" companies pay that has zero positive effect.? I mean if I get on a plane today and its "carbon offset"... Exactly what happens and when that "offsets" (whatever that means) the carbon from loading, flying, unloading, transferring me on that flight? " But it's big corporations not giving a shit about small family run business. And the general public think they're amazing that they are offsetting their carbon emissions. Young farmers are being forced out of the jobs they want to do. People are complaining about the price of milk etc going up now. Wait until all the farms are taken up for people who want to go on their holidays. Again it's going to the poorest who are hardest hit. Yes we need to increase biodiversity in the county. Make all these new build developments grow hedges instead of crappy fence panels that don't last 10 years. | |||
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"Governments and industry need to make the huge changes today, to give us a fighting chance of potentially preventing the catastrophic global heating and its effects on the world. There's apparently insufficient motivation to do this, so they prefer the status quo and pretence of schemes like Carbon offsetting, that tries to make their continuation of the old ways to seem acceptable. As pointed out here, initiation of tree planting etc, takes time for the Carbon to be offset, which will mean that the trees are maintained and actively grow well. Some climates will support a faster uptake of Carbon, where the trees grow faster. The planting may involve more CO2 production, if they are intensively 'farmed'. There's been pressure loaded onto the public to make changes, when the bulk of the changes should be made by governments and industry. The public could have been helped to insulate our homes in the recent changes that largely pushed far nuclear power. We would have helped to reduce CO2 output, as our energy use would have been reduced immediately. As the IPCC insists, we have an immediate opportunity to make changes that could mitigate the severe consequences. That can only be done with wholesale substantial changes. " Thanks for the explanation.it was a genuine question. So is it accurate to say that when people advertise carbon offset. Basically they are hoping that somebody somewhere plants a sapling or two that actually right now has zero effect on anything? But that in 50 years when it grows to be a bigger tree, and as long as it isn't diseased or cut down, that it will process carbon by photosynthesis..? Do you know if the "offset" algorithm uses a sapling or a fully mature tree to establish how many trees are needed to offset an individual flight? I mean I get the schoolchild biology but has the world seriously been sold the notion that this will actually do something to effect carbon emissions today? | |||
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