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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. " My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts " But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some." Sexless, depends, I guess you could work through it. Cheating, if you think that being cheated on makes your relationship stronger you've never been cheated on by someone you love. | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some." Not harsh at all ,l simply said if both are in good health and it turns sexless they shouldn't be together because if they truly loved each other then it would never be sexless.im my opinion , and it's only an opinion , cheating & sexless are a simple no on both counts for me.If a female has fucked another person behind your back let them off, not on a high horse here but you're obviously not enough for her if she did that.As regards the sexless part no one should hold you over a barrell sex wise simply because they can , l have said that if both are in good health , it's important simply because you may be with somebody who takes ill and that is a whole different ball game but each to their own , l totally respect your point of view but am only giving mine . | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. " I think the reason that some relationships are stronger after a rough patch is the necessity to be more open and honest. Open, honest relationships are strong. Doesn't mean they'll last forever, life happens sometimes! But if a relationship is open and honest, it'll cause far less hurt and damage if it does end. | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. " Personally, I think that trust is a huge part of being in a strong relationship. I struggle to see that it is ever possible to completely trust someone again if they've treated on you. Other trials and tribulations of a long term relationship though certainly CAN have the effects of strengthening the bond. Especially if those difficult times are met with support and understanding and not frustration or anger. Cal | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Sexless, depends, I guess you could work through it. Cheating, if you think that being cheated on makes your relationship stronger you've never been cheated on by someone you love. " Tbf I was the one doing the cheating , we got through it and now definitely stronger than ever before and I mean both of us whole heartedly , and no more need for me to cheat. We both have profiles on here and to be even more honest, the fact I don't need to cheat any more the urge or the excitement has gone from meeting others too. Its quite strange being in a position now that meeting other women has lost almost all excitement and I'm happy where I am. | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Sexless, depends, I guess you could work through it. Cheating, if you think that being cheated on makes your relationship stronger you've never been cheated on by someone you love. Tbf I was the one doing the cheating , we got through it and now definitely stronger than ever before and I mean both of us whole heartedly , and no more need for me to cheat. We both have profiles on here and to be even more honest, the fact I don't need to cheat any more the urge or the excitement has gone from meeting others too. Its quite strange being in a position now that meeting other women has lost almost all excitement and I'm happy where I am. " I'm sure it's easy to get over when you're the one cheating. | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Sexless, depends, I guess you could work through it. Cheating, if you think that being cheated on makes your relationship stronger you've never been cheated on by someone you love. Tbf I was the one doing the cheating , we got through it and now definitely stronger than ever before and I mean both of us whole heartedly , and no more need for me to cheat. We both have profiles on here and to be even more honest, the fact I don't need to cheat any more the urge or the excitement has gone from meeting others too. Its quite strange being in a position now that meeting other women has lost almost all excitement and I'm happy where I am. " Many years ago my cousin went to work for a well known confectioner based in Slough. One of the first things they told him was,help yourself to as much chocolate as you want. After the initial novelty wore off he never touched it and found that the fact that it was on offer and available whenever he wanted completely took away the thrill of snagging a sneaky bite when no one is looking. Basically as we have discovered after a few years swinging for many people it's not the actual act of sex that people get a thrill from. The thrill is in the chase and all the skullduggery that goes along with it. | |||
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"You know some people actually love each other it's not all about sex. I'd be more concerned about being in a loveless relationship than a sexless one. Good communication and honesty are far more important than sex. Once you get those things right the sex takes care of itself and comes naturally and certainly shouldn't be forced or done out of obligation just because you are in a relationship doesn't give you a right to demand sex. Anyone who puts the importance of them having sex above love, responsibility, respect and honesty and demands that their partners comply probably doesn't understand how a relationship works. Strength in a relationship isn't about 1 person it's strength of two people devoted to each other and willing to accept the ups and downs that are a natural part of life." | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Sexless, depends, I guess you could work through it. Cheating, if you think that being cheated on makes your relationship stronger you've never been cheated on by someone you love. Tbf I was the one doing the cheating , we got through it and now definitely stronger than ever before and I mean both of us whole heartedly , and no more need for me to cheat. We both have profiles on here and to be even more honest, the fact I don't need to cheat any more the urge or the excitement has gone from meeting others too. Its quite strange being in a position now that meeting other women has lost almost all excitement and I'm happy where I am. Many years ago my cousin went to work for a well known confectioner based in Slough. One of the first things they told him was,help yourself to as much chocolate as you want. After the initial novelty wore off he never touched it and found that the fact that it was on offer and available whenever he wanted completely took away the thrill of snagging a sneaky bite when no one is looking. Basically as we have discovered after a few years swinging for many people it's not the actual act of sex that people get a thrill from. The thrill is in the chase and all the skullduggery that goes along with it." A modern day aesops fable.... Sponsored by mars | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Sexless, depends, I guess you could work through it. Cheating, if you think that being cheated on makes your relationship stronger you've never been cheated on by someone you love. Tbf I was the one doing the cheating , we got through it and now definitely stronger than ever before and I mean both of us whole heartedly , and no more need for me to cheat. We both have profiles on here and to be even more honest, the fact I don't need to cheat any more the urge or the excitement has gone from meeting others too. Its quite strange being in a position now that meeting other women has lost almost all excitement and I'm happy where I am. Many years ago my cousin went to work for a well known confectioner based in Slough. One of the first things they told him was,help yourself to as much chocolate as you want. After the initial novelty wore off he never touched it and found that the fact that it was on offer and available whenever he wanted completely took away the thrill of snagging a sneaky bite when no one is looking. Basically as we have discovered after a few years swinging for many people it's not the actual act of sex that people get a thrill from. The thrill is in the chase and all the skullduggery that goes along with it. A modern day aesops fable.... Sponsored by mars" Helps you work rest and swing. | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Sexless, depends, I guess you could work through it. Cheating, if you think that being cheated on makes your relationship stronger you've never been cheated on by someone you love. Tbf I was the one doing the cheating , we got through it and now definitely stronger than ever before and I mean both of us whole heartedly , and no more need for me to cheat. We both have profiles on here and to be even more honest, the fact I don't need to cheat any more the urge or the excitement has gone from meeting others too. Its quite strange being in a position now that meeting other women has lost almost all excitement and I'm happy where I am. Many years ago my cousin went to work for a well known confectioner based in Slough. One of the first things they told him was,help yourself to as much chocolate as you want. After the initial novelty wore off he never touched it and found that the fact that it was on offer and available whenever he wanted completely took away the thrill of snagging a sneaky bite when no one is looking. Basically as we have discovered after a few years swinging for many people it's not the actual act of sex that people get a thrill from. The thrill is in the chase and all the skullduggery that goes along with it. A modern day aesops fable.... Sponsored by mars Helps you work rest and swing. " I'm so glad you changed it from 'play' | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Sexless, depends, I guess you could work through it. Cheating, if you think that being cheated on makes your relationship stronger you've never been cheated on by someone you love. Tbf I was the one doing the cheating , we got through it and now definitely stronger than ever before and I mean both of us whole heartedly , and no more need for me to cheat. We both have profiles on here and to be even more honest, the fact I don't need to cheat any more the urge or the excitement has gone from meeting others too. Its quite strange being in a position now that meeting other women has lost almost all excitement and I'm happy where I am. I'm sure it's easy to get over when you're the one cheating. " Well she had her chance for payback or to help get over the breakup, I was tired of cheating , moved out the family home and rented a flat , was gone for 14 weeks , although she could afford the house and bills on her own I helped out substantial while gone. I offered her the house and all that went with it including my car as I knew I was the one in the wrong and no squabble it would all be signed over to her. After 14 weeks of chatting I moved back home and absolutely we are stronger now more than ever before. That was 6 years ago. I know I'm a very lucky man but those that say you can't forgive someone they love are hurting themselves probably as much as what the partner did I think. | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. " It can be, as long as any mistakes that were made have been learned from and the behaviours that brought them about aren’t repeated. It does take the right attitude to acknowledge and accept everything necessary to move on as a couple; not everyone is wired that way, so it could be a bad thing if one is not ‘on the same page’. I’m still dumbfounded by the amount of comments in the forums from people that would sack off a significant relationship based solely on sex (or lack thereof). | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Sexless, depends, I guess you could work through it. Cheating, if you think that being cheated on makes your relationship stronger you've never been cheated on by someone you love. Tbf I was the one doing the cheating , we got through it and now definitely stronger than ever before and I mean both of us whole heartedly , and no more need for me to cheat. We both have profiles on here and to be even more honest, the fact I don't need to cheat any more the urge or the excitement has gone from meeting others too. Its quite strange being in a position now that meeting other women has lost almost all excitement and I'm happy where I am. I'm sure it's easy to get over when you're the one cheating. Well she had her chance for payback or to help get over the breakup, I was tired of cheating , moved out the family home and rented a flat , was gone for 14 weeks , although she could afford the house and bills on her own I helped out substantial while gone. I offered her the house and all that went with it including my car as I knew I was the one in the wrong and no squabble it would all be signed over to her. After 14 weeks of chatting I moved back home and absolutely we are stronger now more than ever before. That was 6 years ago. I know I'm a very lucky man but those that say you can't forgive someone they love are hurting themselves probably as much as what the partner did I think. " I think each relationship is unique though. So whilst some can and will forgive and forget (and it's the right decision for them) others won't. I wouldn't stop loving Mr, but I know that I would end up making both our lives a misery as I'd never trust him again. So better to move on. | |||
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"Hardships yes. I think people can form stronger bonds through adversity, whether that be financial problems, health issues or other life shit. Cheating, no. Hard to form a stronger relationship when he'd be 6ft under my patio." | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Not harsh at all ,l simply said if both are in good health and it turns sexless they shouldn't be together because if they truly loved each other then it would never be sexless.im my opinion , and it's only an opinion , cheating & sexless are a simple no on both counts for me.If a female has fucked another person behind your back let them off, not on a high horse here but you're obviously not enough for her if she did that.As regards the sexless part no one should hold you over a barrell sex wise simply because they can , l have said that if both are in good health , it's important simply because you may be with somebody who takes ill and that is a whole different ball game but each to their own , l totally respect your point of view but am only giving mine ." There is more to a relationship than sex. Some couples actually love each other. If one party is only concerned about sex then they are thinking about themselves and dont truly love the other. Some people go off sex so it ends up sexless but thats life and you just have to accept it, if not finish the relationship if sex bothers you that much. | |||
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"Are there any relationships that have never faced a rough patch?" I suppose that's very true , but some people portray as having the perfect relationship but I guess we never really know what goes on behind closed doors | |||
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"Are there any relationships that have never faced a rough patch? I suppose that's very true , but some people portray as having the perfect relationship but I guess we never really know what goes on behind closed doors" No we don't. There must be couples who have very smooth sailing relationships, I don't know any though. | |||
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"On the back of various threads about cheating ect Do you think a relationship that's had some hardships like a cheating partner or sexless for a period of time in the past and now back on track stronger, is a stronger relationship than one that's ticked over for years and never had to face a rough patch or two in the past. ? Not interested in the rights or wrongs of cheating folks , there's plenty other threads to discuss that. Thx. My tuppence worth , no , simply because if one cheats it's the end , and if it's sexless , (by sexless l mean both are in good health ) well then they are with the wrong person . So no from me on both counts But relationships can and do get past cheating and being sexless for a period of time could simply be down to tiredness of perhaps a new parent, your point of view is they shouldn't be together. That's pretty harsh and nothing like a true expectation of a real relationship with ups and downs , I do concede the cheating part could be the end though for some. Not harsh at all ,l simply said if both are in good health and it turns sexless they shouldn't be together because if they truly loved each other then it would never be sexless.im my opinion , and it's only an opinion , cheating & sexless are a simple no on both counts for me.If a female has fucked another person behind your back let them off, not on a high horse here but you're obviously not enough for her if she did that.As regards the sexless part no one should hold you over a barrell sex wise simply because they can , l have said that if both are in good health , it's important simply because you may be with somebody who takes ill and that is a whole different ball game but each to their own , l totally respect your point of view but am only giving mine . There is more to a relationship than sex. Some couples actually love each other. If one party is only concerned about sex then they are thinking about themselves and dont truly love the other. Some people go off sex so it ends up sexless but thats life and you just have to accept it, if not finish the relationship if sex bothers you that much." I'm speaking if both are healthy and one can " hold " the other over a barrell sex wise , if you read my post if a person becomes ill for some reason or another then it's a completely different ball game , lm only answering the question asked nothing more, if both are healthy and truly love each other well then sexless it doesn't become , im fully aware as you get older sex may not be a top priority , absolutely , but lm talking about when both are healthy . | |||
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"People are disposable. No sex? Dump it and get a new fuck. " Not sure what this has to do with the topic but each to their own I guess. You could use this as a tag line on your profile. | |||
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"Are there any relationships that have never faced a rough patch? I suppose that's very true , but some people portray as having the perfect relationship but I guess we never really know what goes on behind closed doors" Mine isn't perfect. Just prefer to try and sort shit out myself rather than portray something different or spill my heart out to all and sundry. | |||
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"Is their such a thing as a relationship that’s never gone through a rough patch ? ..I would never forgive cheating it’s not about the sex it’s the lying and sneaking and selfishness that goes with it ." I actually think your only thinking of one side of cheating, the sneaking side , because for me it was all about the chase and the sex . Now I'm definitely not condoning what I did or trying to make any sort of excuse either but your on a swinger site possibly having sex with other people , sex is sex there's no 2 ways about it that's all I did too . My partner never knew I cheated so she was never hurt by it. Couples on here that swing are saying they'd throw away the love of their lives over a partners meaningless sex I find surprising, understandable but also surprising. It took time before she could understand that you can have sex with another person that is virtually meaningless like it is for most cheaters , yet most females in couples relationships on Fab know this already and still say they'd throw away their partners over the same act. I do get the point it's about the lying ect but still ... | |||
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"Is their such a thing as a relationship that’s never gone through a rough patch ? ..I would never forgive cheating it’s not about the sex it’s the lying and sneaking and selfishness that goes with it . I actually think your only thinking of one side of cheating, the sneaking side , because for me it was all about the chase and the sex . Now I'm definitely not condoning what I did or trying to make any sort of excuse either but your on a swinger site possibly having sex with other people , sex is sex there's no 2 ways about it that's all I did too . My partner never knew I cheated so she was never hurt by it. Couples on here that swing are saying they'd throw away the love of their lives over a partners meaningless sex I find surprising, understandable but also surprising. It took time before she could understand that you can have sex with another person that is virtually meaningless like it is for most cheaters , yet most females in couples relationships on Fab know this already and still say they'd throw away their partners over the same act. I do get the point it's about the lying ect but still ..." They said it's not about the sex so they already understand that it was meaningless. Lying is what they say they couldn't forgive, that is what they'd end their relationship over. If someone you love lies to you over something they claim is meaningless to them they already know their actions would be hurtful but they still do it. That's what makes them end the relationship not the physical act of sex. | |||
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