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"Yea I agree that divorce is/was way too complicated" . | |||
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"About bloody time. I had to go with: "Adultery after separation with an unnamed correspondent" for mine (essentially a 1 night stand after you break up) My top tip (if possible) is to sort out any financial stuff in a clean break order then just download the divorce form off the interweb, sign it and pay at the court. If both parties agree you don't actually need a solicitor." If both parties agree: we need more joined up thinking and less "I'm gonna screw you for every penny and as for the kids..." This obnoxious and poisonous behaviour needs to be stopped. So anything like this is a shot in the arm. Marriage needs to be made harder and prenups should be agreed upon. You wouldn't buy a house, take out a large loan or start a new job without wanting to see a contract first would you. So why should sex, and romance cloud your judgement? Time for change was years ago, still: better late than never. | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years " I've never married, as I knew all of this from day one. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, if it's someone else's, it's gold dust. | |||
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"Society nowadays exploits the man, and encourages women to do things like this for their financial gain. (I'm not talking about individual women on here before you get all up in arms) " That's a bit of a generalisation. I've divorced twice. Never used a solicitor, never paid anything more than the divorce application fee and never been asked to pay anything additional by either ex. Just because some have acrimonious divorces doesn't mean everyone does. A | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct. "Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to' That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence. A | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years " | |||
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"Easiest fix would be not getting married in the first place." | |||
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"Society nowadays exploits the man, and encourages women to do things like this for their financial gain. (I'm not talking about individual women on here before you get all up in arms) " It does seem to be tipping the scales in someone’s favour doesn’t it Basically, whoever has the most stuff is stuck in the divorce unless they are willing to pay. The other person is free to end it whenever they want, no whatever reason and collect their winnings Divorce should be made easier, getting married should be made harder, and some form of legal contract (kinda like a prenup) needs to be drawn up for every marriage. Otherwise I can’t see why anyone with something to lose would risk getting married | |||
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"Uk divorce rate has been 40-42%, scary statistic when your starting out. " And yet people spend stupid money on their wedding day.  £00,000's | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct.
Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to'
That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence.
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"Thankyou for your kind words. Of course everyone's opinion and experience may differ however you tend to see a lot of men worse off after the divorce then females. | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct.
Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to'
That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence.
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Thankyou for your kind words. Of course everyone's opinion and experience may differ however you tend to see a lot of men worse off after the divorce then females. "I can see the future. Here goes. Thanks to gay rights, this imbalance of "give the kids to the mother and get the hubby to pay alimony maintenance" will look and sound a bit pathetic, With gay marriage, comes gay separation, then gay divorce. Not if, but when. I give it 5 years or so, before the first one will happen. This way, the whole sexist stereotypes will be kicked out of court, along with the outdated judges who still haven't got round to living in the 21st Century. There will be huge tidal change in the family courts too. I think glacial might be a better description. | |||
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"Uk divorce rate has been 40-42%, scary statistic when your starting out. And yet people spend stupid money on their wedding day. £00,000's"Pathetic, it's a cultural scam, laced with legal, religious and clan dogmatism. with added stigmatism too. I bet the CofE will say "This is the worst thing to happen to the sanctuary of marriage!" and all that bollocks. Carefully selecting to forget why they exist in the first place. Henry VIII, that's who. No papal divorce request refusal=leaving Rome's club=founding new church of this country. In other words, if it wasn't for divorce, the CofE wouldn't exist. Stop white washing your own history Archbishop! | |||
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"Brilliant, I’ll be appealing to the courts to take a look at my case again so I can recoup what should legally be mine then. This is excellent news "Good luck. | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct.
Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to'
That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence.
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Thankyou for your kind words. Of course everyone's opinion and experience may differ however you tend to see a lot of men worse off after the divorce then females.
I can see the future.
Here goes.
Thanks to gay rights, this imbalance of "give the kids to the mother and get the hubby to pay alimony maintenance" will look and sound a bit pathetic,
With gay marriage, comes gay separation, then gay divorce.
Not if, but when. I give it 5 years or so, before the first one will happen.
This way, the whole sexist stereotypes will be kicked out of court, along with the outdated judges who still haven't got round to living in the 21st Century.
There will be huge tidal change in the family courts too. I think glacial might be a better description.
"Fathers for justice is slowly fighting for change but the biggest hurdle will be politics as it’s still seen as political suicide to support anything that might benefit men in these situations But there is progress being made | |||
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"Easiest fix would be not getting married in the first place. "I never did! | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct.
Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to'
That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence.
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"Actually, there is some truth in it. Are you familiar with an obscure expression called "The bride's big day?" I have never heard of the other one "The groom's big day" Little girlies get spoon fed the Bridal/princess thing from day one, so "When my prince comes to marry me..." The brain washing starts at a very early age. | |||
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"Knew the rules were changing but didn't realise it was able to do it online. Thanks for the tip." You're welcome, just spread the word and use the Law society's page as reference. | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct.
Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to'
That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence.
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Thankyou for your kind words. Of course everyone's opinion and experience may differ however you tend to see a lot of men worse off after the divorce then females.
I can see the future.
Here goes.
Thanks to gay rights, this imbalance of "give the kids to the mother and get the hubby to pay alimony maintenance" will look and sound a bit pathetic,
With gay marriage, comes gay separation, then gay divorce.
Not if, but when. I give it 5 years or so, before the first one will happen.
This way, the whole sexist stereotypes will be kicked out of court, along with the outdated judges who still haven't got round to living in the 21st Century.
There will be huge tidal change in the family courts too. I think glacial might be a better description.
Fathers for justice is slowly fighting for change but the biggest hurdle will be politics as it’s still seen as political suicide to support anything that might benefit men in these situations
But there is progress being made "It will come male suffering needs to become male sufferage. Not all men are bad and not all women are angels. Fathers for justice need to keep trying, their day will come. | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct.
Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to'
That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence.
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Thankyou for your kind words. Of course everyone's opinion and experience may differ however you tend to see a lot of men worse off after the divorce then females. "Who tends to see? I've seen plenty of women shafted by husbands avoiding paying maintenance for their kids. I've seen women ending up in refuges having to start from scratch with nothing because of abusive husbands who had the financial power to ensure they kept the house and had the expensive solicitors helping them minimise any liabilty. I've seen ex-husbands effectively vanish off the earth to avoid supporting their families. So no. You see 'people' worse off after divorces. Not just men. Not just women. I don't dispute that there are women abusing the system and screwing partners over, or using kids as weapons during splits. But there are just as many men fucking over women on a daily basis. I've known men use the 'fathers for justice' argument to garner sympathy when they've actually shown zero interest in seeing their kids and are only interested in keeping up appearances to reduce any maintenance payments. A | |||
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"Knew the rules were changing but didn't realise it was able to do it online. Thanks for the tip." You have been able to get the forms online for years. I divorced 10 years ago. Its society that makes you think you need solicitors for it. If it can save anyone some money its a bonus. | |||
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"Uk divorce rate has been 40-42%, scary statistic when your starting out. " Does not surprise me … considering what goes on on fab … hah | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years " Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. | |||
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"Uk divorce rate has been 40-42%, scary statistic when your starting out. And yet people spend stupid money on their wedding day. £00,000's"and the money pit known as the becakamites, only let their spawn marry billionaire heirs. 15 million should be about right. That's gonna be one hell of a future divorce battle. Bet the Bel air vultures (divorce lawyers) are placing bets now... | |||
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"Society nowadays exploits the man, and encourages women to do things like this for their financial gain. (I'm not talking about individual women on here before you get all up in arms) " Interesting view. I've never wanted to get married and despite being very open about this, it's been a source of conflict in a few previous relationships. They all thought that I would change my mind or that they could buy the right for me to be "legally theirs" with a diamond. Men often think its all about money but I'm not for sale. | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff." That’s scary to think, and it kinda links into the thread recently about cheating. Funny those that say there’s no excuse for it. Imagine knowing through no fault of your own the courts were gonna fuck your over for divorcing. You’d be stupid not to cheat first | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct.
Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to'
That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence.
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Thankyou for your kind words. Of course everyone's opinion and experience may differ however you tend to see a lot of men worse off after the divorce then females.
Who tends to see?
I've seen plenty of women shafted by husbands avoiding paying maintenance for their kids. I've seen women ending up in refuges having to start from scratch with nothing because of abusive husbands who had the financial power to ensure they kept the house and had the expensive solicitors helping them minimise any liabilty. I've seen ex-husbands effectively vanish off the earth to avoid supporting their families.
So no. You see 'people' worse off after divorces. Not just men. Not just women.
I don't dispute that there are women abusing the system and screwing partners over, or using kids as weapons during splits.
But there are just as many men fucking over women on a daily basis. I've known men use the 'fathers for justice' argument to garner sympathy when they've actually shown zero interest in seeing their kids and are only interested in keeping up appearances to reduce any maintenance payments.
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"I personally struggle to see how anyone is going to be financially better off after divorce than they were when together. Surely one household and shared finances is always going to be the financially better option? People accept the impact on their finances from splitting up though if they're miserable together. | |||
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"Is anyone going to get married knowing that you can get divorced that bit quicker ? Imo if you create an interdependent relationship, you should take responsibility in untangling in a fair way. And that doesn't need a cake or a contract. " I could be reading this entirely wrong but it makes it sound like a motivator for getting married is making it harder for someone to leave. | |||
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"Is anyone going to get married knowing that you can get divorced that bit quicker ? Imo if you create an interdependent relationship, you should take responsibility in untangling in a fair way. And that doesn't need a cake or a contract. I could be reading this entirely wrong but it makes it sound like a motivator for getting married is making it harder for someone to leave. " The easier it is to leave the more incentive it is for the person with less to get married. Because they get the pay out If your a millionaire why would you get married knowing someone could just walk for no reason and get half your stuff? I think they should focus on making it harder to get married along with making getting divorced easier | |||
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"Is anyone going to get married knowing that you can get divorced that bit quicker ? Imo if you create an interdependent relationship, you should take responsibility in untangling in a fair way. And that doesn't need a cake or a contract. I could be reading this entirely wrong but it makes it sound like a motivator for getting married is making it harder for someone to leave. The easier it is to leave the more incentive it is for the person with less to get married. Because they get the pay out If your a millionaire why would you get married knowing someone could just walk for no reason and get half your stuff? I think they should focus on making it harder to get married along with making getting divorced easier " They would get far more financial benefit from staying married though? Assuming they live together. Nobody should be trying to keep someone married to them against their will though. | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff." How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. " If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system " Kin’ hell I wish I married Dr Dre  | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system " 300K a month ??? What fucking judge said that ?..that's totally wrong...300 k a month. | |||
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"Have been through 2 divorces. First was simple affair and very fair for both of us. Second was a living hell for around 4 years. The levels of vindictiveness and spite were unbelievable. If she had been amicable she would have had more after the settlement. She wasted legal money trying to get more to end up getting less. Mentally, I barely coped, so an easier process would’ve been great. J" Would you get married a third time? X | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system " The average divorce does not involve multi million pound payouts. With Dr Dre's net worth he can afford to pay her that for 222 years before he runs out of money if he never made another penny in his life. | |||
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"Have been through 2 divorces. First was simple affair and very fair for both of us. Second was a living hell for around 4 years. The levels of vindictiveness and spite were unbelievable. If she had been amicable she would have had more after the settlement. She wasted legal money trying to get more to end up getting less. Mentally, I barely coped, so an easier process would’ve been great. J" You are better off now | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system The average divorce does not involve multi million pound payouts. With Dr Dre's net worth he can afford to pay her that for 222 years before he runs out of money if he never made another penny in his life. " Not the point , whatever he is on it's totally scandalous what he has to pay ,330K a month is unreal ,and no kids ..the Judge who awarded that must have been getting his cock sucked by her , if he wasn't before it he certainly was afterwards. | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system " Well I couldn’t comment on Dre as I had no idea he was married or divorced. My husband works really long hours, I don’t work as many as him but I work full time and then I sort the house and kids because he will be shattered, there is definitely no popping pepper pig on to browse fab. And I’ll be honest how would we sort the money and house was something we at no point considered when getting married as we are aiming not to split up ha. | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system The average divorce does not involve multi million pound payouts. With Dr Dre's net worth he can afford to pay her that for 222 years before he runs out of money if he never made another penny in his life. " I still don’t think it makes it right | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system The average divorce does not involve multi million pound payouts. With Dr Dre's net worth he can afford to pay her that for 222 years before he runs out of money if he never made another penny in his life. I still don’t think it makes it right " I'm sure Dre isn't losing any sleep over it | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system The average divorce does not involve multi million pound payouts. With Dr Dre's net worth he can afford to pay her that for 222 years before he runs out of money if he never made another penny in his life. I still don’t think it makes it right I'm sure Dre isn't losing any sleep over it "I’m sure a similar situation would absolutely ruin some people though. Funnily enough I bet she’s got the same opinion as you do. I wonder why, maybe getting 300k a month for doing nothing can shape your opinion | |||
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"Have been through 2 divorces. First was simple affair and very fair for both of us. Second was a living hell for around 4 years. The levels of vindictiveness and spite were unbelievable. If she had been amicable she would have had more after the settlement. She wasted legal money trying to get more to end up getting less. Mentally, I barely coped, so an easier process would’ve been great. J" I had a similar experience with divorce solicitors seem to think "give us all your money them you will have nothing left to argue about" | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system The average divorce does not involve multi million pound payouts. With Dr Dre's net worth he can afford to pay her that for 222 years before he runs out of money if he never made another penny in his life. I still don’t think it makes it right I'm sure Dre isn't losing any sleep over it
I’m sure a similar situation would absolutely ruin some people though. Funnily enough I bet she’s got the same opinion as you do. I wonder why, maybe getting 300k a month for doing nothing can shape your opinion "Of course 300k a month would ruin someone without Dr Dre's wealth but that isn't the case. The settlement is that high because of his wealth. So she has the same opinion as me because she's getting 300k a month? Where do you think I'm getting 300k a month from in that case? | |||
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"Have been through 2 divorces. First was simple affair and very fair for both of us. Second was a living hell for around 4 years. The levels of vindictiveness and spite were unbelievable. If she had been amicable she would have had more after the settlement. She wasted legal money trying to get more to end up getting less. Mentally, I barely coped, so an easier process would’ve been great. J Would you get married a third time? X " I’m not ruling it out Kylie. 
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"Dr Dre is also American so not really sure what he has to do with British divorce laws. " That is the country that sets silly divorce settelments that eventually migrate over here. Once pound signs infect the vultures' vision, the battle for money begins. | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct.
Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to'
That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence.
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Thankyou for your kind words. Of course everyone's opinion and experience may differ however you tend to see a lot of men worse off after the divorce then females.
Who tends to see?
I've seen plenty of women shafted by husbands avoiding paying maintenance for their kids. I've seen women ending up in refuges having to start from scratch with nothing because of abusive husbands who had the financial power to ensure they kept the house and had the expensive solicitors helping them minimise any liabilty. I've seen ex-husbands effectively vanish off the earth to avoid supporting their families.
So no. You see 'people' worse off after divorces. Not just men. Not just women.
I don't dispute that there are women abusing the system and screwing partners over, or using kids as weapons during splits.
But there are just as many men fucking over women on a daily basis. I've known men use the 'fathers for justice' argument to garner sympathy when they've actually shown zero interest in seeing their kids and are only interested in keeping up appearances to reduce any maintenance payments.
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I personally struggle to see how anyone is going to be financially better off after divorce than they were when together. Surely one household and shared finances is always going to be the financially better option? People accept the impact on their finances from splitting up though if they're miserable together. "I was better off after getting divorced, despite being left with 30k+ in debt. Took me 7 years of struggling but I was in the black with my current account every month. My ex had me maxing out my overdraft for over 10 years. Finally got everything paid off and now it's all good. | |||
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"Honestly, marriage is just dead these days anyways Who in their right mind would get married? What’s the benefit? It’s basically like having a girlfriend except if something goes wrong you have to give them half your stuff I can see marriage slowly phasing out of society in the next 10 or so years Even unmarried you can end up giving them half your stuff. How is it half of your stuff though? If you are married isn’t everything shared? If I do the food shop, that’s not my food, it’s the house’s food, for everyone. If someone busts their ass for 60 hours a week to provide the funds for a house, cars, food etc etc And someone else puts peppa pig dvds into dvds players so they can sit back and browse the fab forums I wouldn’t say that stuff is equally everyone’s. That’s just my opinion I’m not saying people should get nothing. But when you see people getting multi million pound pay outs + the house + monthly payments for essentially doing what lots of people do for free, I don’t call that a fair split and it’s the reason many people in the future will avoid marriage Dr Dre is currently paying his ex wife 300k a month in spousal support. They don’t even have kids. That’s why I think Marriage is dead. It’s a rigged system " if that's your relationship dynamic, that's on you. The flip side of the Dre situation is Mrs Dre can be coerced in staying in an abusive marriage because the alternative is destitution (no idea of circumstances, it's a hypothetical). | |||
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"As I said it's not everyone as I don't know everyone's situation but I'm sure if you looked at stats it is correct.
Actually you said 'Society exploits the man and encourages women to'
That's definitely a bloody great generalisation and a comment that appears to speak from personal opinion and experience than any statistical evidence.
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Thankyou for your kind words. Of course everyone's opinion and experience may differ however you tend to see a lot of men worse off after the divorce then females.
Who tends to see?
I've seen plenty of women shafted by husbands avoiding paying maintenance for their kids. I've seen women ending up in refuges having to start from scratch with nothing because of abusive husbands who had the financial power to ensure they kept the house and had the expensive solicitors helping them minimise any liabilty. I've seen ex-husbands effectively vanish off the earth to avoid supporting their families.
So no. You see 'people' worse off after divorces. Not just men. Not just women.
I don't dispute that there are women abusing the system and screwing partners over, or using kids as weapons during splits.
But there are just as many men fucking over women on a daily basis. I've known men use the 'fathers for justice' argument to garner sympathy when they've actually shown zero interest in seeing their kids and are only interested in keeping up appearances to reduce any maintenance payments.
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I personally struggle to see how anyone is going to be financially better off after divorce than they were when together. Surely one household and shared finances is always going to be the financially better option? People accept the impact on their finances from splitting up though if they're miserable together.
I was better off after getting divorced, despite being left with 30k+ in debt. Took me 7 years of struggling but I was in the black with my current account every month. My ex had me maxing out my overdraft for over 10 years. Finally got everything paid off and now it's all good. "I really am sorry to hear that. I did however mean I don't understand how someone will be richer following a divorce as some others seem to be suggesting. Obviously for you, getting divorced enabled you to get your finances under control again. You didn't have more money as a result of the divorce settlement itself however as they're talking about. If that makes sense. | |||
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