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"The thing with the afterlife and graves is it is not for the dead, it's for the living. Once close living relatives are gone, and the family connection all forgotten about, what does it matter?" I suspect it depends on the culture remaining. I don't know enough about the descendants (potential) of the Pharaohs to comment, but there are some cultures where this would be wildly disrespectful. It's a balance to find, studying ancient cultures, between respecting the wishes of cultures past and present, and developing knowledge. | |||
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"What actual tangible benefit is there in finding, opening and removing items from an ancient Egyptian tomb? What benefit to today’s society is derived from this?" I think that depends on how much value you put on knowledge. | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. " Baghdad batteries * | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * " Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid" I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. " Nobody is scoffing at archaeology. | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. " I wasn't claiming I could. The fact you don't know how it's done doesn't mean that your hypothesis has any validity. As someone whose related qualifications did not come from a Cornflakes box, there are almost infinite hypotheses as to how it happened that are more plausible than yours. | |||
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"What actual tangible benefit is there in finding, opening and removing items from an ancient Egyptian tomb? What benefit to today’s society is derived from this? I think that depends on how much value you put on knowledge. " . Just because we have knowledge of something it doesn’t follow that it is necessarily beneficial. | |||
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"What actual tangible benefit is there in finding, opening and removing items from an ancient Egyptian tomb? What benefit to today’s society is derived from this? I think that depends on how much value you put on knowledge. . Just because we have knowledge of something it doesn’t follow that it is necessarily beneficial. " No it doesn't I agree. | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia." Looking around the world at structures that have lasted for millennia, the main criteria seems to be to build it out of bloody great lumps of the right types of stone. Then preferably cover them up with sand for a few thousand years so that no bugger uses them as convenient raw material for turning into newer structures. Mythical energy batteries are not included, and not required. | |||
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"What actual tangible benefit is there in finding, opening and removing items from an ancient Egyptian tomb? What benefit to today’s society is derived from this? I think that depends on how much value you put on knowledge. . Just because we have knowledge of something it doesn’t follow that it is necessarily beneficial. " Beneficial in what way? Knowledge for knowledge's sake alone is not enough? | |||
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"What actual tangible benefit is there in finding, opening and removing items from an ancient Egyptian tomb? What benefit to today’s society is derived from this? I think that depends on how much value you put on knowledge. . Just because we have knowledge of something it doesn’t follow that it is necessarily beneficial. Beneficial in what way? Knowledge for knowledge's sake alone is not enough?" That's another difficult question. I know some things that are definitely not beneficial "to me" but probably are to other people. In a time when there are so many people struggling is it beneficial to spend money acquiring knowledge of the past? | |||
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"What actual tangible benefit is there in finding, opening and removing items from an ancient Egyptian tomb? What benefit to today’s society is derived from this? I think that depends on how much value you put on knowledge. . Just because we have knowledge of something it doesn’t follow that it is necessarily beneficial. Beneficial in what way? Knowledge for knowledge's sake alone is not enough?" Critical thinking, source analysis - transferrable skills in a time of flux and the creation of new jobs that we can't even imagine yet. Cultural awareness and flexibility in an interconnected world. (Even if we assume that the international Egyptology budget and the national cost of living crisis are related, which I'd dispute) | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. Looking around the world at structures that have lasted for millennia, the main criteria seems to be to build it out of bloody great lumps of the right types of stone. Then preferably cover them up with sand for a few thousand years so that no bugger uses them as convenient raw material for turning into newer structures. Mythical energy batteries are not included, and not required. " Yep. Very few council house equivalents survive from prehistory  | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. I wasn't claiming I could. The fact you don't know how it's done doesn't mean that your hypothesis has any validity. As someone whose related qualifications did not come from a Cornflakes box, there are almost infinite hypotheses as to how it happened that are more plausible than yours." Oh how marvellous you have a degree from the open university in archaeology? ..I have a BA in European and world history so, do please tell me again how irrelevant my qualifications are .. I wrote my thesis on historical methods of design and you sit atop a high horse judging my opinion . What is your qualification which makes you such a high ranking authority on this subject ? | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. Looking around the world at structures that have lasted for millennia, the main criteria seems to be to build it out of bloody great lumps of the right types of stone. Then preferably cover them up with sand for a few thousand years so that no bugger uses them as convenient raw material for turning into newer structures. Mythical energy batteries are not included, and not required. " Mythical energy batteries ? Add uric acid to the copper nodes and they produce electric current they are over 3 thousand years old and very much real. But hey, feel free to dismiss whatever disagrees with your thesis like a true theologian would . | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. I wasn't claiming I could. The fact you don't know how it's done doesn't mean that your hypothesis has any validity. As someone whose related qualifications did not come from a Cornflakes box, there are almost infinite hypotheses as to how it happened that are more plausible than yours. Oh how marvellous you have a degree from the open university in archaeology? ..I have a BA in European and world history so, do please tell me again how irrelevant my qualifications are .. I wrote my thesis on historical methods of design and you sit atop a high horse judging my opinion . What is your qualification which makes you such a high ranking authority on this subject ?" I have a postgraduate qualification in an historical period closer in both space and time than what you've claimed. As someone who has studied history, you will then know the way in which historical inferences are drawn. Plausibility, surrounding evidence, etc. That absence of evidence (sarcophagi) does not mean evidence of absence (tomb robbing of valuables being well known in the period). Etc. Given your qualification you know exactly why I view your claims with the derision I do, and the sheer weight of evidence that would be required to make such a claim plausible. | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. I wasn't claiming I could. The fact you don't know how it's done doesn't mean that your hypothesis has any validity. As someone whose related qualifications did not come from a Cornflakes box, there are almost infinite hypotheses as to how it happened that are more plausible than yours. Oh how marvellous you have a degree from the open university in archaeology? ..I have a BA in European and world history so, do please tell me again how irrelevant my qualifications are .. I wrote my thesis on historical methods of design and you sit atop a high horse judging my opinion . What is your qualification which makes you such a high ranking authority on this subject ? I have a postgraduate qualification in an historical period closer in both space and time than what you've claimed. As someone who has studied history, you will then know the way in which historical inferences are drawn. Plausibility, surrounding evidence, etc. That absence of evidence (sarcophagi) does not mean evidence of absence (tomb robbing of valuables being well known in the period). Etc. Given your qualification you know exactly why I view your claims with the derision I do, and the sheer weight of evidence that would be required to make such a claim plausible." Sheer weight of evidence ? The honous is on Egyptologists to provide the evidence that the pyramids where tombs ..before spewing that narrative try providing some evidence and not blaming mythical Lara croft-esque grave robbers..absence of logic Is what your clearly demonstarting ...imagine being so egotistical that you'd willingly cause the destruction of your nation in order to provide one's self with such a grandiose resting place ... Regardless of your chronologically more relevant degree just spewing the accepted theories and never hypothesising your own shows me what sort of amateur you are . I don't hold qualifications in just one field ...try using the etymology of the word pyramid . It derives from Latin ...from a time period much closer to the Egyptians than the English language you were taught in. | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. I wasn't claiming I could. The fact you don't know how it's done doesn't mean that your hypothesis has any validity. As someone whose related qualifications did not come from a Cornflakes box, there are almost infinite hypotheses as to how it happened that are more plausible than yours. Oh how marvellous you have a degree from the open university in archaeology? ..I have a BA in European and world history so, do please tell me again how irrelevant my qualifications are .. I wrote my thesis on historical methods of design and you sit atop a high horse judging my opinion . What is your qualification which makes you such a high ranking authority on this subject ? I have a postgraduate qualification in an historical period closer in both space and time than what you've claimed. As someone who has studied history, you will then know the way in which historical inferences are drawn. Plausibility, surrounding evidence, etc. That absence of evidence (sarcophagi) does not mean evidence of absence (tomb robbing of valuables being well known in the period). Etc. Given your qualification you know exactly why I view your claims with the derision I do, and the sheer weight of evidence that would be required to make such a claim plausible. Sheer weight of evidence ? The honous is on Egyptologists to provide the evidence that the pyramids where tombs ..before spewing that narrative try providing some evidence and not blaming mythical Lara croft-esque grave robbers..absence of logic Is what your clearly demonstarting ...imagine being so egotistical that you'd willingly cause the destruction of your nation in order to provide one's self with such a grandiose resting place ... Regardless of your chronologically more relevant degree just spewing the accepted theories and never hypothesising your own shows me what sort of amateur you are . I don't hold qualifications in just one field ...try using the etymology of the word pyramid . It derives from Latin ...from a time period much closer to the Egyptians than the English language you were taught in. " I answered your etymology question hours ago. Including the idea that relying on etymology as a main line of evidence is weak. And no, the onus is not on the Egyptians to disprove anything. If you're going to come up with a wild theory with no contemporaneous evidence backing it up (either what happened or the technological capability) - the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. Looting sacred sites for precious materials is not an invention of the 20th century, it's well known that this happened throughout the ancient world. Your argument does not bear any of the hallmarks of historical reasoning, I'm afraid. | |||
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"Watching a program called tomb hunters. Egyptian people looking for tombs from back in the days of the pharaohs. Is it essential research or a legal way of disturbing graves and sort of robbing the artefacts from them. Not for profit but disturbing a final resting place " Well a hundred years ago, it's practically what we were doing to the pyramids. We just dressed it up to seem better than what it actually was | |||
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"Watching a program called tomb hunters. Egyptian people looking for tombs from back in the days of the pharaohs. Is it essential research or a legal way of disturbing graves and sort of robbing the artefacts from them. Not for profit but disturbing a final resting place Well a hundred years ago, it's practically what we were doing to the pyramids. We just dressed it up to seem better than what it actually was" Archaeological techniques have definitely improved. | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. Looking around the world at structures that have lasted for millennia, the main criteria seems to be to build it out of bloody great lumps of the right types of stone. Then preferably cover them up with sand for a few thousand years so that no bugger uses them as convenient raw material for turning into newer structures. Mythical energy batteries are not included, and not required. Mythical energy batteries ? Add uric acid to the copper nodes and they produce electric current they are over 3 thousand years old and very much real. But hey, feel free to dismiss whatever disagrees with your thesis like a true theologian would . " Absolutely true that any artifact that contains dissimilar metals can produce small electric currents when an electrolyte solution is added. It is even possible that the so-called Baghdad Battery was intended as a device to deliberately produce electricity (although this suggestion is given very little credence by most knowledgeable archeologists). Whatever, this device could only even produce tiny amounts of electricity that would be of very little use - it ain't gonna power electric lights or spaceship engines. In particular, the pyramids are nothing to do with the "battery" and are certainly not gigantic generators for the gods. They are bloody big piles of stones, not cosmic energy machines! | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man " I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. Looking around the world at structures that have lasted for millennia, the main criteria seems to be to build it out of bloody great lumps of the right types of stone. Then preferably cover them up with sand for a few thousand years so that no bugger uses them as convenient raw material for turning into newer structures. Mythical energy batteries are not included, and not required. Mythical energy batteries ? Add uric acid to the copper nodes and they produce electric current they are over 3 thousand years old and very much real. But hey, feel free to dismiss whatever disagrees with your thesis like a true theologian would . Absolutely true that any artifact that contains dissimilar metals can produce small electric currents when an electrolyte solution is added. It is even possible that the so-called Baghdad Battery was intended as a device to deliberately produce electricity (although this suggestion is given very little credence by most knowledgeable archeologists). Whatever, this device could only even produce tiny amounts of electricity that would be of very little use - it ain't gonna power electric lights or spaceship engines. In particular, the pyramids are nothing to do with the "battery" and are certainly not gigantic generators for the gods. They are bloody big piles of stones, not cosmic energy machines!" So your admitting that 1st century Baghdad had knowledge of electrolysis ...but refuse to believe a civilization which predated Babylon by several thousand years could have developed generators .. ok that's your belief and you're entitled to it . But we have found an ancient technology which can be demonstrably shown to produce electricity (a technology which we believed them incapable of possessing the knowledge of)... I for one believe that humans are at the lowest level of intelligence we have ever been . | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion." Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. " I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies. | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies." .the given narrative is that they are graves .. show me the evidence .. .show me one fossilised bone .. one tomb . One mummy .. one anything ...show me any piece of evidence which confirms your thesis. | |||
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"Watching a program called tomb hunters. Egyptian people looking for tombs from back in the days of the pharaohs. Is it essential research or a legal way of disturbing graves and sort of robbing the artefacts from them. Not for profit but disturbing a final resting place Well a hundred years ago, it's practically what we were doing to the pyramids. We just dressed it up to seem better than what it actually was Archaeological techniques have definitely improved." Aye, it amazes me when they do extremely accurate depictions of what people from ancient history looked like. Though it has proven that Cleopatra was nowhere near as attractive as Joan Collins | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies." Fuck me. I only asked a question. Don’t think I’ll another if this is what happens. And I’m still no wiser lol | |||
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"..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... " I could be (probably am) but isn't longitude a construct based on the location of where the person calculating their prime meridian is located? If I decide my prime meridian is "here" then the longitudinal line I extend will always precisely bisect the planet. I need no astronomical precision to achieve that. Hence the prime meridien had been set at Alexandria, Greenwich, The Canaries at various stages in history. Given the earth is (roughly) spherical, won't any point on it be precisely located tp perfect divide the earth longitudinally? | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies. .the given narrative is that they are graves .. show me the evidence .. .show me one fossilised bone .. one tomb . One mummy .. one anything ...show me any piece of evidence which confirms your thesis. " You claim derision at my theory because of lack of evidence whilst your perpetuating the myth that they are graves .. be honest you have no evidence supporting your claims and that in turn validates my theory more than anything else ....the onous is on Egyptologists .not me ...if it is a grave or q tomb ...show us th evidence ..if not ...don't stifle the theories of those who are hypothesising the pyramids uses. .. we can agree the pyramid exists ? Therefore it follows logically that there is a reason for its construction ... You say it's a grave . I say it's a generator ... Neither of us can provide hard evidence ....but what you can provide is contemporaneous majority claims that it is a gravesite ... Without a single shred of evidence. I can't provide majority opinions supporting my claim ...but logic would dictate that no pharoah or leader or king would risk the destruction of their nation to create such a monumental mausoleum . | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies. .the given narrative is that they are graves .. show me the evidence .. .show me one fossilised bone .. one tomb . One mummy .. one anything ...show me any piece of evidence which confirms your thesis. " The given narrative. Oh. Right. Ok. That tells me all I need to know 
Is this one of those ones where if I say it was under a pyramid or near a pyramid, you get to say see? Therefore aliens!
Ok. I cede defeat. I've been a sheeple all my life, I bow down to contrarianism over scholarship and shall be contacting my universities to demand a refund on my education.
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies. .the given narrative is that they are graves .. show me the evidence .. .show me one fossilised bone .. one tomb . One mummy .. one anything ...show me any piece of evidence which confirms your thesis. The given narrative. Oh. Right. Ok. That tells me all I need to know
Is this one of those ones where if I say it was under a pyramid or near a pyramid, you get to say see? Therefore aliens!
Ok. I cede defeat. I've been a sheeple all my life, I bow down to contrarianism over scholarship and shall be contacting my universities to demand a refund on my education.
Everything in my life has been a lie. It was the aliens! "Was it the little green ones though, or the tall grey ones with big eyes? Did they have tentacles? Got to be about the anal probes. It's always the anal probes... | |||
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Was it the little green ones though, or the tall grey ones with big eyes? Did they have tentacles? Got to be about the anal probes. It's always the anal probes..."Where's your proof? | |||
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Was it the little green ones though, or the tall grey ones with big eyes? Did they have tentacles? Got to be about the anal probes. It's always the anal probes...
Where's your proof?
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies. .the given narrative is that they are graves .. show me the evidence .. .show me one fossilised bone .. one tomb . One mummy .. one anything ...show me any piece of evidence which confirms your thesis. The given narrative. Oh. Right. Ok. That tells me all I need to know
Is this one of those ones where if I say it was under a pyramid or near a pyramid, you get to say see? Therefore aliens!
Ok. I cede defeat. I've been a sheeple all my life, I bow down to contrarianism over scholarship and shall be contacting my universities to demand a refund on my education.
Everything in my life has been a lie. It was the aliens! "So your evidence for them being graves is what ? Sarcastic comments ? ...you have the entire world of historians on your side ...you have all the academic voices on your side ...you have the Egyptian government on your side ....tell me ..what archaeologicalevidence do you have that the great pyramid is a tomb ???? | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies. .the given narrative is that they are graves .. show me the evidence .. .show me one fossilised bone .. one tomb . One mummy .. one anything ...show me any piece of evidence which confirms your thesis. The given narrative. Oh. Right. Ok. That tells me all I need to know
Is this one of those ones where if I say it was under a pyramid or near a pyramid, you get to say see? Therefore aliens!
Ok. I cede defeat. I've been a sheeple all my life, I bow down to contrarianism over scholarship and shall be contacting my universities to demand a refund on my education.
Everything in my life has been a lie. It was the aliens!
So your evidence for them being graves is what ? Sarcastic comments ? ...you have the entire world of historians on your side ...you have all the academic voices on your side ...you have the Egyptian government on your side ....tell me ..what archaeologicalevidence do you have that the great pyramid is a tomb ???? "Bit late mate, she gone | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies. .the given narrative is that they are graves .. show me the evidence .. .show me one fossilised bone .. one tomb . One mummy .. one anything ...show me any piece of evidence which confirms your thesis. The given narrative. Oh. Right. Ok. That tells me all I need to know
Is this one of those ones where if I say it was under a pyramid or near a pyramid, you get to say see? Therefore aliens!
Ok. I cede defeat. I've been a sheeple all my life, I bow down to contrarianism over scholarship and shall be contacting my universities to demand a refund on my education.
Everything in my life has been a lie. It was the aliens!
So your evidence for them being graves is what ? Sarcastic comments ? ...you have the entire world of historians on your side ...you have all the academic voices on your side ...you have the Egyptian government on your side ....tell me ..what archaeologicalevidence do you have that the great pyramid is a tomb ????
Bit late mate, she gone"No drama . I can wait . Iv been waiting all my life since discovering they were "tombs" for some corroborating evidence. .. | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies. .the given narrative is that they are graves .. show me the evidence .. .show me one fossilised bone .. one tomb . One mummy .. one anything ...show me any piece of evidence which confirms your thesis. The given narrative. Oh. Right. Ok. That tells me all I need to know
Is this one of those ones where if I say it was under a pyramid or near a pyramid, you get to say see? Therefore aliens!
Ok. I cede defeat. I've been a sheeple all my life, I bow down to contrarianism over scholarship and shall be contacting my universities to demand a refund on my education.
Everything in my life has been a lie. It was the aliens!
So your evidence for them being graves is what ? Sarcastic comments ? ...you have the entire world of historians on your side ...you have all the academic voices on your side ...you have the Egyptian government on your side ....tell me ..what archaeologicalevidence do you have that the great pyramid is a tomb ????
Bit late mate, she gone
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"..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... I could be (probably am) but isn't longitude a construct based on the location of where the person calculating their prime meridian is located? If I decide my prime meridian is "here" then the longitudinal line I extend will always precisely bisect the planet. I need no astronomical precision to achieve that. Hence the prime meridien had been set at Alexandria, Greenwich, The Canaries at various stages in history. Given the earth is (roughly) spherical, won't any point on it be precisely located tp perfect divide the earth longitudinally? " Correct ..but as I'm sure you were and are aware .. the Egyptians were not aware that they lived on a sphere .. and luck would have it they chose to base their prime meridian with the earth being a disc not a sphere ...and lo an behold it's still ...the centre of the earth . | |||
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"..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... I could be (probably am) but isn't longitude a construct based on the location of where the person calculating their prime meridian is located? If I decide my prime meridian is "here" then the longitudinal line I extend will always precisely bisect the planet. I need no astronomical precision to achieve that. Hence the prime meridien had been set at Alexandria, Greenwich, The Canaries at various stages in history. Given the earth is (roughly) spherical, won't any point on it be precisely located tp perfect divide the earth longitudinally? Correct ..but as I'm sure you were and are aware .. the Egyptians were not aware that they lived on a sphere .. and luck would have it they chose to base their prime meridian with the earth being a disc not a sphere ...and lo an behold it's still ...the centre of the earth . " Unless of course you're willing to admit that maybe the Egyptians considered the earth to be a sphere . Long before modern day astronomers ... In which case . Is it so much of a stretch to believe that they had other technologies and informations that we deem them incapable of possessing the knowledge of | |||
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"..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... I could be (probably am) but isn't longitude a construct based on the location of where the person calculating their prime meridian is located? If I decide my prime meridian is "here" then the longitudinal line I extend will always precisely bisect the planet. I need no astronomical precision to achieve that. Hence the prime meridien had been set at Alexandria, Greenwich, The Canaries at various stages in history. Given the earth is (roughly) spherical, won't any point on it be precisely located tp perfect divide the earth longitudinally? Correct ..but as I'm sure you were and are aware .. the Egyptians were not aware that they lived on a sphere .. and luck would have it they chose to base their prime meridian with the earth being a disc not a sphere ...and lo an behold it's still ...the centre of the earth . Unless of course you're willing to admit that maybe the Egyptians considered the earth to be a sphere . Long before modern day astronomers ... In which case . Is it so much of a stretch to believe that they had other technologies and informations that we deem them incapable of possessing the knowledge of " Perhaps I am not qualified to say, but not convinced. Spherical Earth as a theory was known to have been documented as early as 200 bc. Who knows how much earlier these theories extended. | |||
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"..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... I could be (probably am) but isn't longitude a construct based on the location of where the person calculating their prime meridian is located? If I decide my prime meridian is "here" then the longitudinal line I extend will always precisely bisect the planet. I need no astronomical precision to achieve that. Hence the prime meridien had been set at Alexandria, Greenwich, The Canaries at various stages in history. Given the earth is (roughly) spherical, won't any point on it be precisely located tp perfect divide the earth longitudinally? Correct ..but as I'm sure you were and are aware .. the Egyptians were not aware that they lived on a sphere .. and luck would have it they chose to base their prime meridian with the earth being a disc not a sphere ...and lo an behold it's still ...the centre of the earth . Unless of course you're willing to admit that maybe the Egyptians considered the earth to be a sphere . Long before modern day astronomers ... In which case . Is it so much of a stretch to believe that they had other technologies and informations that we deem them incapable of possessing the knowledge of Perhaps I am not qualified to say, but not convinced. Spherical Earth as a theory was known to have been documented as early as 200 bc. Who knows how much earlier these theories extended." 200 BC is still 3 thousand years short of early Egyptian times.. But I disagree .disregard her statements .... Qualifications does not a historian maketh. You are just as qualified as anybody else to speak of your theories...especially if neither of us can provide any evidence for them.. but...if you can accept that egyptians might have had knowledge we don't give them credit for .. then that is enough for me . Too many "historians" can only read an regurgitate pre established facts... Few seldom ever hypothesise their own theories ...and when they do, it causes allsorts of clamour ...if interested .. look at what happened recently when a doctor ran tests and found living dinosaur tissue in a fossilised bone... She's been discredited sacked and is in disrepute now because of the " majority narrative"... It still doesn't make her evidence any less authentic or compelling . | |||
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"Just typed about two thousand words in response .. refreshed page and lost them ...to cut along story short ...no pharoah emperor king deity or other historical leader would ever risk bankrupting their entire nation to provide financing for such a lavish death monument .if they did ...they certainly wouldn't be allowed to repeat the feat thrice ..and you say employ logic.. show me the logic and the evidence . Not a single skeleton ,bone , or tooth has been found in any of the pyramids ...what they have found is geometric data encompassed in the design .. design methods that surpass our current abilities , resourcing of materials and division of labour which surpasses anything we can do today, and a harmonic resonance which isn't reproduced anywhere on earth ..also the pyramid of Khufu is geometrically aligned to the centre of the earth .. it splits the lines of longitude an latitude more precisely than our measuring instruments could until last century ... You're talking complete and utter pish if you think this was designed as the grave for one man I mean, ok, I'm glad you think I'm talking pish. Your idea has about as much plausibility as Boris dying in a ditch in 2019, as he promised he would do, and an alien in a skin suit ruling over us since then. It also has a similar evidence base. You'll be aware, given your qualification, that there are severe limitations on a) the amount of historical evidence that can be readily linked to online without a paywall. Fab rules also prohibit most of the links that would facilitate this discussion. Strawman arguement using irrelavant examples . If you're going to debate me .insult me and accuse me of lacking your knowledge on a certain subject...then please stick to the said subject. I haven't insulted you. I've shown your idea derision. In order for an idea to be taken seriously historically, as you know, it needs to be consistent with the evidence we have of the period. Your idea does not. There is no evidence that overcomes that hurdle, and, given the norms of historical inference, the hurdle you face is remarkably high. But then you know that given your studies. .the given narrative is that they are graves .. show me the evidence .. .show me one fossilised bone .. one tomb . One mummy .. one anything ...show me any piece of evidence which confirms your thesis. You claim derision at my theory because of lack of evidence whilst your perpetuating the myth that they are graves .. be honest you have no evidence supporting your claims and that in turn validates my theory more than anything else ....the onous is on Egyptologists .not me ...if it is a grave or q tomb ...show us th evidence ..if not ...don't stifle the theories of those who are hypothesising the pyramids uses. .. we can agree the pyramid exists ? Therefore it follows logically that there is a reason for its construction ... You say it's a grave . I say it's a generator ... Neither of us can provide hard evidence ....but what you can provide is contemporaneous majority claims that it is a gravesite ... Without a single shred of evidence. I can't provide majority opinions supporting my claim ...but logic would dictate that no pharoah or leader or king would risk the destruction of their nation to create such a monumental mausoleum . " Ever heard of the Mausoleum at Halicarnassus or Taj Mahal? They're both pretty expensive graves for a leader to have built and in both cases were intended for someone else so the ruler would have to live with the consequences of the cost of construction. Also don't the pyramids have hieroglyphics inside similar to those found in other smaller tombs? Testing of the soul kind of thing? | |||
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"Pyramids are the triangles like Toblerone right? Yes but less chocolatey " Aww  | |||
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"Things like the antikythera mechanism and the baghdad could be archaeological, but also groundbreaking technology .the pyramids were certainly some form of power generator.. although they're passed off as graves for the Pharaohs . Not a single sarcophagus or mummy has ever been found inside a pyramid . They've lasted 5 thousand years plus . Now we can't even build council houses to withstand 20 winters.. don't be so quick to scoff at archaeology ... The ancients certainly outranked us at design and manufacture. Baghdad batteries * Whoever taught you that should return their qualifications to their box of Cornflakes, I'm afraid I'd love to see you replicate a structure like Khufu .and for it to survive for 5 millennia. Looking around the world at structures that have lasted for millennia, the main criteria seems to be to build it out of bloody great lumps of the right types of stone. Then preferably cover them up with sand for a few thousand years so that no bugger uses them as convenient raw material for turning into newer structures. Mythical energy batteries are not included, and not required. " | |||
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"So what about the fellas who built Stonehenge? What were they up to? " The Egyptians needed help, as has been established. Obviously the clever chaps who built Stonehenge had plucky Blitz Spirit, which overrides any technological challenges. | |||
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"So what about the fellas who built Stonehenge? What were they up to? " About 13ft | |||
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"So what about the fellas who built Stonehenge? What were they up to? About 13ft" Druids pre season rugby tour. Got a bit messy after a few meads | |||
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