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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .." If you're talking about Boris Johnson, the Politics forum is that way. | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .." Thank goodness you're here to put the world's wrongs to right | |||
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"Ok going a bit far there OP bringing out the stakes soon? I have cheated on some of my partner’s I will admit what should be done to me? Been with cheating women what would you have done to them?" I'm Not sure of the severity of the punishment ..but it should be punishable .. all good character and good references should be withdrawn and they shouldn't be able to hold positions of authority or power as they're clearly immoral and untrustworthy people.. just take someone like Matt Hancock for example .. should he be allowed to get away with his actions Scot free and then still be in a position to lord it over others ??? Nobody is forced to be together in this life ... And if you can't be honest and decent enough to tell your partner how you feel . Then you certainly shouldn't be responsible for decisions that affect others | |||
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"And yet on your profile you offer to fuck women in their marital bed and send pics to the husband. Does your moral law extend to hypocrisy? " damn i was going to vote him the new morality judge too | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x" Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . | |||
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"And yet on your profile you offer to fuck women in their marital bed and send pics to the husband. Does your moral law extend to hypocrisy? " It does indeed.. because if you read the quote which you are reffering to it describes a non existant woman.. how immoral of me to have fantasies hey. | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . " yet you clearly state your willingness to do the same in black n white if the right woman to come along | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .." You’ll be asking for the noose next | |||
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"I cheated once. But it was an open book exam anyway. A victimless crime." Did you pass..?! | |||
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"Who governs morality? Twitter Or Mumsnet" and where do theres come from? | |||
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"And yet on your profile you offer to fuck women in their marital bed and send pics to the husband. Does your moral law extend to hypocrisy? It does indeed.. because if you read the quote which you are reffering to it describes a non existant woman.. how immoral of me to have fantasies hey. " Can excuse anything by calling it a fantasy but that doesn’t change it. You can’t (rightly I’d add) point the finger at cheating but fantasise about it that just means you don’t like it being done to you but would be ok to go it to another. | |||
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"Who governs morality? Twitter Or Mumsnetand where do theres come from?" Friends Reunited | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .." i always used to cheat,,, if she was not paying attention i would move my ludo counters a few extra squares,,, and as for monopoly i had more money than the bank | |||
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"And yet on your profile you offer to fuck women in their marital bed and send pics to the husband. Does your moral law extend to hypocrisy? " ‘KaPowwww!!!’ | |||
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"Who governs morality? Twitter Or Mumsnetand where do theres come from? Friends Reunited " | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .." You have very strong opinions both in here and on your profile. Of course, you're entitled to them, but one thing you shouldn't forget is that you're on a swingers' website, not one for dating and marrying. Swinging always has been multiple people for sex, sharing your partner with others, swapping partners for separate or same room sex. If you don't like what goes on here, then leave. It's your choice, but if you stay, I suggest you stop trying to play God and condemn people to hell for doing what people have done for centuries and having a great time. | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . yet you clearly state your willingness to do the same in black n white if the right woman to come along " I see your sentiment but I disagree ...I'm not the cheat in that scenario .. I'm not the one with a partner ..although I could be seen as encouraging it I guess .. maybe I should backtrack on the encouraging part ... However I'm talking from the stand point of the person in the relationship . | |||
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"I cheated once. But it was an open book exam anyway. A victimless crime. Did you pass..?! " Unsurprisingly top marks. | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. You have very strong opinions both in here and on your profile. Of course, you're entitled to them, but one thing you shouldn't forget is that you're on a swingers' website, not one for dating and marrying. Swinging always has been multiple people for sex, sharing your partner with others, swapping partners for separate or same room sex. If you don't like what goes on here, then leave. It's your choice, but if you stay, I suggest you stop trying to play God and condemn people to hell for doing what people have done for centuries and having a great time." .wow .I am very inexperienced as a swinger ..as far as I'm aware what swingers do is mutually agreed upon and in no way does it constitute cheating ... Your arguing a straw man here | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .." Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up. | |||
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"Who governs morality? Twitter Or Mumsnet" Oh fuck mumsnet Thsts a hotbed of toxicity echo chamber at its finest | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . yet you clearly state your willingness to do the same in black n white if the right woman to come along I see your sentiment but I disagree ...I'm not the cheat in that scenario .. I'm not the one with a partner ..although I could be seen as encouraging it I guess .. maybe I should backtrack on the encouraging part ... However I'm talking from the stand point of the person in the relationship . " as they say takes 2 to tango | |||
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"I cheated once. But it was an open book exam anyway. A victimless crime. Did you pass..?! Unsurprisingly top marks." Top revision skills | |||
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"I don't think this is getting you the attention you hoped it would, OP. FYI, I'd definitely cheat on you. " | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . " And what is the common denominator here? | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up." If you lie under oath you can be punished by law and you will have your " good character status" taken away from you..there's a legal term for it but I can't recall it .. the same should be applicable to proven cheats. If somebody can go to bed with you lookm you in the eyes tell you they love you and still cheat on you ...then they're the sort of immoral people the world can do without | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up. If you lie under oath you can be punished by law and you will have your " good character status" taken away from you..there's a legal term for it but I can't recall it .. the same should be applicable to proven cheats. If somebody can go to bed with you lookm you in the eyes tell you they love you and still cheat on you ...then they're the sort of immoral people the world can do without " Stay off the glue | |||
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"I don't think this is getting you the attention you hoped it would, OP. FYI, I'd definitely cheat on you. " You wouldn't be lucky enough to get in a relationship with me.. but I thank you for your opinion | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up. If you lie under oath you can be punished by law and you will have your " good character status" taken away from you..there's a legal term for it but I can't recall it .. the same should be applicable to proven cheats. If somebody can go to bed with you lookm you in the eyes tell you they love you and still cheat on you ...then they're the sort of immoral people the world can do without " Have you ever lied to anyone OP? | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . yet you clearly state your willingness to do the same in black n white if the right woman to come along I see your sentiment but I disagree ...I'm not the cheat in that scenario .. I'm not the one with a partner ..although I could be seen as encouraging it I guess .. maybe I should backtrack on the encouraging part ... However I'm talking from the stand point of the person in the relationship . as they say takes 2 to tango" It does Takes two to tango ..however if one person is single and the other is in a relationship then in my opinion it's down to the person in the relationship not to proceed . They're the cheat . The other person would be complicit but less guilty...like an accesory to murder ..still a cunt . But not the ultimate cunt | |||
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"Ok going a bit far there OP bringing out the stakes soon? I have cheated on some of my partner’s I will admit what should be done to me? Been with cheating women what would you have done to them? I'm Not sure of the severity of the punishment ..but it should be punishable .. all good character and good references should be withdrawn and they shouldn't be able to hold positions of authority or power as they're clearly immoral and untrustworthy people.. just take someone like Matt Hancock for example .. should he be allowed to get away with his actions Scot free and then still be in a position to lord it over others ??? Nobody is forced to be together in this life ... And if you can't be honest and decent enough to tell your partner how you feel . Then you certainly shouldn't be responsible for decisions that affect others " What would be my punishment,Explain to me clearly and concisely? In fact tell me what you think of me while you’re at it please? Have you met politicians? cause I have trust me even your squeaky clean party will be affected by your proposed thing. How do you know I didn’t tell my partners how I felt were you there? | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up. If you lie under oath you can be punished by law and you will have your " good character status" taken away from you..there's a legal term for it but I can't recall it .. the same should be applicable to proven cheats. If somebody can go to bed with you lookm you in the eyes tell you they love you and still cheat on you ...then they're the sort of immoral people the world can do without Have you ever lied to anyone OP?" Big difference between lying and cheating . There's some Similarities aswell but lying is always detrimental, even if you can lie for a good reason ...there's never a good reason to cheat. Or none that I'm aware of ...just end the relationship .. much easier | |||
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"Who governs morality? Twitter Or Mumsnet" Ha ha ..Definitely MN. | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up." This. Also, I get the OPs sentiment, but just imagine if there were myriad reasons why it’s best to stay in a relationship for both partners, even if as a result one strays from the path of righteousness. Just imagine that eh. Simplification of such a potentially complex subject is at best misguided. Shall we kill all murders? Shall we rid ourselves of all thieves? Let’s incarcerate everyone who causes harm to any other human being. Or, let’s just have a little think about why? Oooooh. Sounds grown up doesn’t it? | |||
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"We're you cheated on 6 times by 6 different people, or the same person? If its different people maybe you need to think about why you chose those people and why you keep repeating the same patterns. " It could be that he is only interested in his own sexual gratification and not that of his partners?! | |||
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"Ok going a bit far there OP bringing out the stakes soon? I have cheated on some of my partner’s I will admit what should be done to me? Been with cheating women what would you have done to them? I'm Not sure of the severity of the punishment ..but it should be punishable .. all good character and good references should be withdrawn and they shouldn't be able to hold positions of authority or power as they're clearly immoral and untrustworthy people.. just take someone like Matt Hancock for example .. should he be allowed to get away with his actions Scot free and then still be in a position to lord it over others ??? Nobody is forced to be together in this life ... And if you can't be honest and decent enough to tell your partner how you feel . Then you certainly shouldn't be responsible for decisions that affect others What would be my punishment,Explain to me clearly and concisely? In fact tell me what you think of me while you’re at it please? Have you met politicians? cause I have trust me even your squeaky clean party will be affected by your proposed thing. How do you know I didn’t tell my partners how I felt were you there?" Well firstly. I'd never believe a word you said from then on ... Secondly politicians are just as sleazy as cheats I guess I'm not using politicians as moral guidance but I'd trust the word of a non cheat over a cheat . How do I know you didn't tell them how you feel ??? I don't know you didn't tell them ..but if you told them honestly that you wanted to fuck somebody else ..and if she said she wasn't comfortable with it and you proceeded anyway then you're a heartless evil selfish cunt . If she accepted it. You're not a cheat .. and if she rejected it and finished you then your not in a relationship and you're not a cheat for proceeding with it . | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . " So you're the common denominator? | |||
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"Popcorn anyone..?! What flavour we talking? Toffee seems to be a popular choice amongst peeps" One does not like toffee but favours the salted popcorn I’ll bring my own Got some whisky if anyone would like to join us? | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up. If you lie under oath you can be punished by law and you will have your " good character status" taken away from you..there's a legal term for it but I can't recall it .. the same should be applicable to proven cheats. If somebody can go to bed with you lookm you in the eyes tell you they love you and still cheat on you ...then they're the sort of immoral people the world can do without Have you ever lied to anyone OP? Big difference between lying and cheating . There's some Similarities aswell but lying is always detrimental, even if you can lie for a good reason ...there's never a good reason to cheat. Or none that I'm aware of ...just end the relationship .. much easier " But surely you would want liars to face the courts as well, its a matter of character after all? | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up. This. Also, I get the OPs sentiment, but just imagine if there were myriad reasons why it’s best to stay in a relationship for both partners, even if as a result one strays from the path of righteousness. Just imagine that eh. Simplification of such a potentially complex subject is at best misguided. Shall we kill all murders? Shall we rid ourselves of all thieves? Let’s incarcerate everyone who causes harm to any other human being. Or, let’s just have a little think about why? Oooooh. Sounds grown up doesn’t it? " Do we give convicted criminals positions of power ? Yes .Do we give known liars and cheats authority? yes. do we live in a fucked up country where everyone complains about the lack of morality ..yes . Should something change .yes. | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .." Have a wank | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . So you're the common denominator?" Possibly. Still doesn't make cheating acceptable does it ? If you don't like a partner ..end it . Don't cheat | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Have a wank " You're only cheating yourself. | |||
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"Popcorn anyone..?! What flavour we talking? Toffee seems to be a popular choice amongst peeps One does not like toffee but favours the salted popcorn I’ll bring my own Got some whisky if anyone would like to join us?" Whisky is the one drink I can’t quite stomach, I’ll bring the voddie | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . " Today wouldn't happen to be one of those occasions, by any chance? If so, probably not a good time to discuss it rationally in an environment full of various levels of cheating.. | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Have a wank You're only cheating yourself. " Singles often cheat themselves as easier. | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . yet you clearly state your willingness to do the same in black n white if the right woman to come along I see your sentiment but I disagree ...I'm not the cheat in that scenario .. I'm not the one with a partner ..although I could be seen as encouraging it I guess .. maybe I should backtrack on the encouraging part ... However I'm talking from the stand point of the person in the relationship . " You should backtrack then. Cheating is ok if you get laid ? | |||
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"Popcorn anyone..?! What flavour we talking? Toffee seems to be a popular choice amongst peeps One does not like toffee but favours the salted popcorn I’ll bring my own Got some whisky if anyone would like to join us? Whisky is the one drink I can’t quite stomach, I’ll bring the voddie " Max and I enjoy rum I'll bring the ice!! | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . So you're the common denominator? Possibly. Still doesn't make cheating acceptable does it ? If you don't like a partner ..end it . Don't cheat " I don't think people tend to cheat because they don't like their partner. Unless they're in a relationship they can't leave. | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . yet you clearly state your willingness to do the same in black n white if the right woman to come along I see your sentiment but I disagree ...I'm not the cheat in that scenario .. I'm not the one with a partner ..although I could be seen as encouraging it I guess .. maybe I should backtrack on the encouraging part ... However I'm talking from the stand point of the person in the relationship . as they say takes 2 to tango It does Takes two to tango ..however if one person is single and the other is in a relationship then in my opinion it's down to the person in the relationship not to proceed . They're the cheat . The other person would be complicit but less guilty...like an accesory to murder ..still a cunt . But not the ultimate cunt " accessory to murder carries a maximum life sentence same as the murderer themselves so if you were to get your way and have this as law you would be equally guilty think they call it joint enterprise sorry to break that news to you | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . " Have you ever asked yourself why 8t keeps happening to you? | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up. If you lie under oath you can be punished by law and you will have your " good character status" taken away from you..there's a legal term for it but I can't recall it .. the same should be applicable to proven cheats. If somebody can go to bed with you lookm you in the eyes tell you they love you and still cheat on you ...then they're the sort of immoral people the world can do without Have you ever lied to anyone OP? Big difference between lying and cheating . There's some Similarities aswell but lying is always detrimental, even if you can lie for a good reason ...there's never a good reason to cheat. Or none that I'm aware of ...just end the relationship .. much easier But surely you would want liars to face the courts as well, its a matter of character after all?" Liars should get punished more severely in court.. in fact they do ...you get time reduced for an early plea ...this is showing your good character to the court and your rewarded accordingly ..equally if you're found to be lying in court your held in contempt and can be punished .. if you've been convicted and you appear in court again having lied previously to the courts . Your character and your word is tarniahed. This should be the same for all cheats .how it would be implemented I don't know .. but iv had friends commit suicide over cheating girlfriends ..iv seen friends lose their children and their home from cheating partners . It's fuckin disgusting .you're all entitled to your opinion . .and your opinions in my opinion...but it doesn't justify cheating an nothing you say ever will | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . Today wouldn't happen to be one of those occasions, by any chance? If so, probably not a good time to discuss it rationally in an environment full of various levels of cheating.." Not very recently no .. but maybe it's not the right site to discuss it on...some people clearly can't differentiate between cheating and swinging | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. Punishable by law? Get a fucking grip. In an ideal world, everyone would find themselves in a loving, supportive relationship where they weren't cheated on or felt the need to cheat. But we don't live in an ideal world. People are flawed and they fuck up. This. Also, I get the OPs sentiment, but just imagine if there were myriad reasons why it’s best to stay in a relationship for both partners, even if as a result one strays from the path of righteousness. Just imagine that eh. Simplification of such a potentially complex subject is at best misguided. Shall we kill all murders? Shall we rid ourselves of all thieves? Let’s incarcerate everyone who causes harm to any other human being. Or, let’s just have a little think about why? Oooooh. Sounds grown up doesn’t it? Do we give convicted criminals positions of power ? Yes .Do we give known liars and cheats authority? yes. do we live in a fucked up country where everyone complains about the lack of morality ..yes . Should something change .yes. " Sorry. I thought your thread was on the morality of cheating and over simplification. My mistake. | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. " Cause then you’ve got free shoes and a mile head start | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . Today wouldn't happen to be one of those occasions, by any chance? If so, probably not a good time to discuss it rationally in an environment full of various levels of cheating.. Not very recently no .. but maybe it's not the right site to discuss it on...some people clearly can't differentiate between cheating and swinging " Well your profile seems to struggle with the difference as well | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. " Walk a mile in the shoes of the cheater ? I don't ever want to cheat . I don't ever want to be in the situation where it's even a possibility . How can I show empathy towards something which is morally despicable to me ? I'm not arguing I'm just asking . | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. " Empathy all round, as it’s a basic human requirement in my opinion. And.......... I’m out.......... | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . Today wouldn't happen to be one of those occasions, by any chance? If so, probably not a good time to discuss it rationally in an environment full of various levels of cheating.. Not very recently no .. but maybe it's not the right site to discuss it on...some people clearly can't differentiate between cheating and swinging Well your profile seems to struggle with the difference as well" How so ? I don't claim to be a swinger . | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. Empathy all round, as it’s a basic human requirement in my opinion. And.......... I’m out.......... " Empathy is a basic moral human requirement .. but loyalty should be too . | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . Today wouldn't happen to be one of those occasions, by any chance? If so, probably not a good time to discuss it rationally in an environment full of various levels of cheating.. Not very recently no .. but maybe it's not the right site to discuss it on...some people clearly can't differentiate between cheating and swinging Well your profile seems to struggle with the difference as well How so ? I don't claim to be a swinger . " Then why are you on a swingers site? Just curious | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . So you're the common denominator? Possibly. Still doesn't make cheating acceptable does it ? If you don't like a partner ..end it . Don't cheat " Maybe if they were getting what they needed, they wouldn't have cheated? | |||
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"I think I might know why you were cheated on OP. Because your partners were not allowed there own opinions? I think you may be on to something …" How much virtue signalling goes on here hahaha .. first of all people say walk a mile in their shoes ... But they never try walking in the shoes of the OP.. I value all opinions and your all entitled to one .some make sense to me. some don't . I guess that's how humans differ. But don't try and judge my relationships based solely on what you see here. Just because its happened multiple times to me does it still doesn't make cheating right ??? | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. Walk a mile in the shoes of the cheater ? I don't ever want to cheat . I don't ever want to be in the situation where it's even a possibility . How can I show empathy towards something which is morally despicable to me ? I'm not arguing I'm just asking ." Can I ask op if you was out met this lovely attractive lady, got on very well, chemistry was through the roof but half way through she tells You she’s married would you still pursue? | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. Empathy all round, as it’s a basic human requirement in my opinion. And.......... I’m out.......... Empathy is a basic moral human requirement .. but loyalty should be too . " I beg to differ. A sizeable chunk of the population of this planet have zero empathy. Should they be reported to the police? It sounds very much like it's you who has zero empathy, as you cannot or will not understand people's reasons for their behavior. | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . So you're the common denominator? Possibly. Still doesn't make cheating acceptable does it ? If you don't like a partner ..end it . Don't cheat Maybe if they were getting what they needed, they wouldn't have cheated?" That might be the case .. and if that's the case I could accept them finishing me and moving on .. not cheating tho ... Nobody's ever been forced to be with me ...it only takes a " I don't want you anymore text" to end a relationship . | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. Walk a mile in the shoes of the cheater ? I don't ever want to cheat . I don't ever want to be in the situation where it's even a possibility . How can I show empathy towards something which is morally despicable to me ? I'm not arguing I'm just asking . Can I ask op if you was out met this lovely attractive lady, got on very well, chemistry was through the roof but half way through she tells You she’s married would you still pursue? " Currently going through it right now on here mate ...if I could show you my inbox you might believe me ... I wouldn't pursue . Not now .. maybe when I was much younger and hadn't experienced what cheating can do to someone ... But not now | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . So you're the common denominator? Possibly. Still doesn't make cheating acceptable does it ? If you don't like a partner ..end it . Don't cheat Maybe if they were getting what they needed, they wouldn't have cheated? That might be the case .. and if that's the case I could accept them finishing me and moving on .. not cheating tho ... Nobody's ever been forced to be with me ...it only takes a " I don't want you anymore text" to end a relationship . " It wouldn't take a txt to end a twenty five year marriage, ten years left on the mortgage, credit card debts, kids still part way through education, job insecurity, health issues ... | |||
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"OP you have very strong opinions on this which is your choice but you also have to come from a place of curiosity of why people behave in the way that they do. I have asked several questions on this thread and each time you have chosen to ignore me so I’m going to bow out gracefully. Fingers crossed that not everyone ends up blocking you for your aggressive nature " Haven't meant to ignore you . So many posts to reply too I'll find your question | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. Empathy all round, as it’s a basic human requirement in my opinion. And.......... I’m out.......... Empathy is a basic moral human requirement .. but loyalty should be too . I beg to differ. A sizeable chunk of the population of this planet have zero empathy. Should they be reported to the police? It sounds very much like it's you who has zero empathy, as you cannot or will not understand people's reasons for their behavior. " In all seriousness, not that you will agree, I think you should try talking to someone like a Counsellor. You seem to have a lot of anger,& mistrust,though you have your reasons. All this angst & stress will not do your mental health any good. Talking to someone will help you get things in prospective. | |||
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"No. I am not here to convince you to change your mind on anything. Its your mindset and you control that. But I would be prepared to hear your explanation as to why you feel so strongly about this topic. NBVN x Personal experience .. possibly the fifth or sixth time it's happened to me . So you're the common denominator? Possibly. Still doesn't make cheating acceptable does it ? If you don't like a partner ..end it . Don't cheat Maybe if they were getting what they needed, they wouldn't have cheated? That might be the case .. and if that's the case I could accept them finishing me and moving on .. not cheating tho ... Nobody's ever been forced to be with me ...it only takes a " I don't want you anymore text" to end a relationship . It wouldn't take a txt to end a twenty five year marriage, ten years left on the mortgage, credit card debts, kids still part way through education, job insecurity, health issues ..." I can totally accept this .. but after such a long period of time together you should be comfortable enough to discuss how you feel .. yes it could cause untold heartache .. but it's nothing compared to finding out you've been cheated on ... Eventually it's the lesser of two evils to just admit you want something else .. it's the moral thing to do | |||
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"Blimey, I was bored watching Moonraker… this is much more entertaining (though Moonraker’s on pause) Well done to the OP though. Whatever the opinions, he’s sticking around to argue his case. Usually these posts lead to the dreaded ‘user no longer on site’" _erverseintentions will return | |||
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"Ok going a bit far there OP bringing out the stakes soon? I have cheated on some of my partner’s I will admit what should be done to me? Been with cheating women what would you have done to them? I'm Not sure of the severity of the punishment ..but it should be punishable .. all good character and good references should be withdrawn and they shouldn't be able to hold positions of authority or power as they're clearly immoral and untrustworthy people.. just take someone like Matt Hancock for example .. should he be allowed to get away with his actions Scot free and then still be in a position to lord it over others ??? Nobody is forced to be together in this life ... And if you can't be honest and decent enough to tell your partner how you feel . Then you certainly shouldn't be responsible for decisions that affect others What would be my punishment,Explain to me clearly and concisely? In fact tell me what you think of me while you’re at it please? Have you met politicians? cause I have trust me even your squeaky clean party will be affected by your proposed thing. How do you know I didn’t tell my partners how I felt were you there? Well firstly. I'd never believe a word you said from then on ... Secondly politicians are just as sleazy as cheats I guess I'm not using politicians as moral guidance but I'd trust the word of a non cheat over a cheat . How do I know you didn't tell them how you feel ??? I don't know you didn't tell them ..but if you told them honestly that you wanted to fuck somebody else ..and if she said she wasn't comfortable with it and you proceeded anyway then you're a heartless evil selfish cunt . If she accepted it. You're not a cheat .. and if she rejected it and finished you then your not in a relationship and you're not a cheat for proceeding with it ." Ok fair enough,Who’s this sainted non cheat here? What do you think happened with me then? Not judging your conclusion just curious. Tell me what charges should be brought. | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .." I won't try to convince you because at this point in your life, your experiences have made you intense & obviously pretty angry. You have a very black & white opinion on this, yet, you quote morality while being on a swinger's site which would to very many be immoral too...as is drug use, so which morality do you condone & which do you condemn?? For what it's worth, I have been cheated on & after 20 years of tolerating it, I was driven to make a similar choice. I don't believe I was right or justified, but I'm not evil or cruel either- neither do I believe that either my cheating husband or me deserve punishment over & above what our actions caused to ourselves. You can choose not to meet a married person playing without permission- I avoid that situation too, but unless you know everyone's circumstances, I think you're being a bit hypocritical having such a stark attitude. 8f you're going to enjoy Fab, you may need to adopt more of a live & let live attitude because you don't have the right to judge others. | |||
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"Ok going a bit far there OP bringing out the stakes soon? I have cheated on some of my partner’s I will admit what should be done to me? Been with cheating women what would you have done to them? I'm Not sure of the severity of the punishment ..but it should be punishable .. all good character and good references should be withdrawn and they shouldn't be able to hold positions of authority or power as they're clearly immoral and untrustworthy people.. just take someone like Matt Hancock for example .. should he be allowed to get away with his actions Scot free and then still be in a position to lord it over others ??? Nobody is forced to be together in this life ... And if you can't be honest and decent enough to tell your partner how you feel . Then you certainly shouldn't be responsible for decisions that affect others What would be my punishment,Explain to me clearly and concisely? In fact tell me what you think of me while you’re at it please? Have you met politicians? cause I have trust me even your squeaky clean party will be affected by your proposed thing. How do you know I didn’t tell my partners how I felt were you there? Well firstly. I'd never believe a word you said from then on ... Secondly politicians are just as sleazy as cheats I guess I'm not using politicians as moral guidance but I'd trust the word of a non cheat over a cheat . How do I know you didn't tell them how you feel ??? I don't know you didn't tell them ..but if you told them honestly that you wanted to fuck somebody else ..and if she said she wasn't comfortable with it and you proceeded anyway then you're a heartless evil selfish cunt . If she accepted it. You're not a cheat .. and if she rejected it and finished you then your not in a relationship and you're not a cheat for proceeding with it . Ok fair enough,Who’s this sainted non cheat here? What do you think happened with me then? Not judging your conclusion just curious. Tell me what charges should be brought." Something akin to the punishment for bigamy I guess .. I'm not talking imprisonment or fines or anything ...but a drop in character .. social score . Something .. let's be honest here . Would you trsut the word of a confirmed cheat over the word of a confirmed non cheat ???? | |||
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"I think I might know why you were cheated on OP. Because your partners were not allowed there own opinions? I think you may be on to something … How much virtue signalling goes on here hahaha .. first of all people say walk a mile in their shoes ... But they never try walking in the shoes of the OP.. I value all opinions and your all entitled to one .some make sense to me. some don't . I guess that's how humans differ. But don't try and judge my relationships based solely on what you see here. Just because its happened multiple times to me does it still doesn't make cheating right ???" It's not about it being right. More understanding why bad things happen. Take terrorism for example. I never agree with it but I understand why there is animosity towards the west in the middle east and how vulnerable people can be groomed by terrorist organisations. Sometimes just "this thing is bad and people who do it should be punished" doesn't really address the route cause of the problem. | |||
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"I think I might know why you were cheated on OP. Because your partners were not allowed there own opinions? I think you may be on to something … How much virtue signalling goes on here hahaha .. first of all people say walk a mile in their shoes ... But they never try walking in the shoes of the OP.. I value all opinions and your all entitled to one .some make sense to me. some don't . I guess that's how humans differ. But don't try and judge my relationships based solely on what you see here. Just because its happened multiple times to me does it still doesn't make cheating right ???" I mean your relationships can’t be that great if they all end up cheating on you. If it’s happened multiple times too.. 6 I think you said and in all of those relationships the only common denominator is you. Then it’s easy to come to the conclusion that it’s your behaviour that just might be the real issue. You come across as opinionated and aggressive. People cheat for all different reasons but sometimes it’s their partners behaviour that drives them to it. Specially if they feel trapped in that relationship. It’s life, it happens. Move on and get some counselling as you clearly need it. | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. I won't try to convince you because at this point in your life, your experiences have made you intense & obviously pretty angry. You have a very black & white opinion on this, yet, you quote morality while being on a swinger's site which would to very many be immoral too...as is drug use, so which morality do you condone & which do you condemn?? For what it's worth, I have been cheated on & after 20 years of tolerating it, I was driven to make a similar choice. I don't believe I was right or justified, but I'm not evil or cruel either- neither do I believe that either my cheating husband or me deserve punishment over & above what our actions caused to ourselves. You can choose not to meet a married person playing without permission- I avoid that situation too, but unless you know everyone's circumstances, I think you're being a bit hypocritical having such a stark attitude. 8f you're going to enjoy Fab, you may need to adopt more of a live & let live attitude because you don't have the right to judge others." After twenty years of tolerating it .... Sorry but your point is moot . If you " tolerate" something your clearly not happy with it ... And no matter how you want to portray it, it eats you up inside and I can see from your wording that " you were driven to retaliation" ... So this proves my point ..cheating leads to more cheating and then a vicious circle of lies and mistrust ensues.im sorry you've been treated like that . I truely am | |||
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"Ok going a bit far there OP bringing out the stakes soon? I have cheated on some of my partner’s I will admit what should be done to me? Been with cheating women what would you have done to them? I'm Not sure of the severity of the punishment ..but it should be punishable .. all good character and good references should be withdrawn and they shouldn't be able to hold positions of authority or power as they're clearly immoral and untrustworthy people.. just take someone like Matt Hancock for example .. should he be allowed to get away with his actions Scot free and then still be in a position to lord it over others ??? Nobody is forced to be together in this life ... And if you can't be honest and decent enough to tell your partner how you feel . Then you certainly shouldn't be responsible for decisions that affect others What would be my punishment,Explain to me clearly and concisely? In fact tell me what you think of me while you’re at it please? Have you met politicians? cause I have trust me even your squeaky clean party will be affected by your proposed thing. How do you know I didn’t tell my partners how I felt were you there? Well firstly. I'd never believe a word you said from then on ... Secondly politicians are just as sleazy as cheats I guess I'm not using politicians as moral guidance but I'd trust the word of a non cheat over a cheat . How do I know you didn't tell them how you feel ??? I don't know you didn't tell them ..but if you told them honestly that you wanted to fuck somebody else ..and if she said she wasn't comfortable with it and you proceeded anyway then you're a heartless evil selfish cunt . If she accepted it. You're not a cheat .. and if she rejected it and finished you then your not in a relationship and you're not a cheat for proceeding with it . Ok fair enough,Who’s this sainted non cheat here? What do you think happened with me then? Not judging your conclusion just curious. Tell me what charges should be brought. Something akin to the punishment for bigamy I guess .. I'm not talking imprisonment or fines or anything ...but a drop in character .. social score . Something .. let's be honest here . Would you trsut the word of a confirmed cheat over the word of a confirmed non cheat ???? " I would not trust the word you are correct.Who confirms the non-cheat though? But what do you think happened with mine? | |||
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"I think I might know why you were cheated on OP. Because your partners were not allowed there own opinions? I think you may be on to something … How much virtue signalling goes on here hahaha .. first of all people say walk a mile in their shoes ... But they never try walking in the shoes of the OP.. I value all opinions and your all entitled to one .some make sense to me. some don't . I guess that's how humans differ. But don't try and judge my relationships based solely on what you see here. Just because its happened multiple times to me does it still doesn't make cheating right ??? I mean your relationships can’t be that great if they all end up cheating on you. If it’s happened multiple times too.. 6 I think you said and in all of those relationships the only common denominator is you. Then it’s easy to come to the conclusion that it’s your behaviour that just might be the real issue. You come across as opinionated and aggressive. People cheat for all different reasons but sometimes it’s their partners behaviour that drives them to it. Specially if they feel trapped in that relationship. It’s life, it happens. Move on and get some counselling as you clearly need it. " People murder for many reasons too it doesn't make murder right ..justified or moral. | |||
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"Ok going a bit far there OP bringing out the stakes soon? I have cheated on some of my partner’s I will admit what should be done to me? Been with cheating women what would you have done to them? I'm Not sure of the severity of the punishment ..but it should be punishable .. all good character and good references should be withdrawn and they shouldn't be able to hold positions of authority or power as they're clearly immoral and untrustworthy people.. just take someone like Matt Hancock for example .. should he be allowed to get away with his actions Scot free and then still be in a position to lord it over others ??? Nobody is forced to be together in this life ... And if you can't be honest and decent enough to tell your partner how you feel . Then you certainly shouldn't be responsible for decisions that affect others What would be my punishment,Explain to me clearly and concisely? In fact tell me what you think of me while you’re at it please? Have you met politicians? cause I have trust me even your squeaky clean party will be affected by your proposed thing. How do you know I didn’t tell my partners how I felt were you there? Well firstly. I'd never believe a word you said from then on ... Secondly politicians are just as sleazy as cheats I guess I'm not using politicians as moral guidance but I'd trust the word of a non cheat over a cheat . How do I know you didn't tell them how you feel ??? I don't know you didn't tell them ..but if you told them honestly that you wanted to fuck somebody else ..and if she said she wasn't comfortable with it and you proceeded anyway then you're a heartless evil selfish cunt . If she accepted it. You're not a cheat .. and if she rejected it and finished you then your not in a relationship and you're not a cheat for proceeding with it . Ok fair enough,Who’s this sainted non cheat here? What do you think happened with me then? Not judging your conclusion just curious. Tell me what charges should be brought. Something akin to the punishment for bigamy I guess .. I'm not talking imprisonment or fines or anything ...but a drop in character .. social score . Something .. let's be honest here . Would you trsut the word of a confirmed cheat over the word of a confirmed non cheat ???? " Bigamy is punishable by jail. | |||
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"Op I admire how much you have stuck to your guns here and are extremely passionate about it, only thing I can’t get my head around is if ithe woman was 32dd 5”1 and size 10 it would be ok " This!! | |||
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"Op I admire how much you have stuck to your guns here and are extremely passionate about it, only thing I can’t get my head around is if ithe woman was 32dd 5”1 and size 10 it would be ok " This is why I can’t take this thread seriously | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .." This is perverse and extremist in nature. Moralistic speaking, you should never be near a position of power as you're clearly a tyrant with no sense of moderation. There is no such thing as black and white in situations like this. I won't convince you otherwise as I don't deal with extremists. C | |||
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"Ok going a bit far there OP bringing out the stakes soon? I have cheated on some of my partner’s I will admit what should be done to me? Been with cheating women what would you have done to them? I'm Not sure of the severity of the punishment ..but it should be punishable .. all good character and good references should be withdrawn and they shouldn't be able to hold positions of authority or power as they're clearly immoral and untrustworthy people.. just take someone like Matt Hancock for example .. should he be allowed to get away with his actions Scot free and then still be in a position to lord it over others ??? Nobody is forced to be together in this life ... And if you can't be honest and decent enough to tell your partner how you feel . Then you certainly shouldn't be responsible for decisions that affect others What would be my punishment,Explain to me clearly and concisely? In fact tell me what you think of me while you’re at it please? Have you met politicians? cause I have trust me even your squeaky clean party will be affected by your proposed thing. How do you know I didn’t tell my partners how I felt were you there? Well firstly. I'd never believe a word you said from then on ... Secondly politicians are just as sleazy as cheats I guess I'm not using politicians as moral guidance but I'd trust the word of a non cheat over a cheat . How do I know you didn't tell them how you feel ??? I don't know you didn't tell them ..but if you told them honestly that you wanted to fuck somebody else ..and if she said she wasn't comfortable with it and you proceeded anyway then you're a heartless evil selfish cunt . If she accepted it. You're not a cheat .. and if she rejected it and finished you then your not in a relationship and you're not a cheat for proceeding with it . Ok fair enough,Who’s this sainted non cheat here? What do you think happened with me then? Not judging your conclusion just curious. Tell me what charges should be brought. Something akin to the punishment for bigamy I guess .. I'm not talking imprisonment or fines or anything ...but a drop in character .. social score . Something .. let's be honest here . Would you trsut the word of a confirmed cheat over the word of a confirmed non cheat ???? I would not trust the word you are correct.Who confirms the non-cheat though? But what do you think happened with mine?" I don't know what happened with yours .. the judiciary who are meant to be honest and unbiased should be the judges same as how they are the judges in criminal and civil matters. We elect people of a high moral standing into positions of power .. if we tolerate cheating then we might aswell tolerate biased racist sexist homophobic judges ..because cheats can be elected to those positions of power | |||
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"Op I admire how much you have stuck to your guns here and are extremely passionate about it, only thing I can’t get my head around is if ithe woman was 32dd 5”1 and size 10 it would be ok This is why I can’t take this thread seriously " Find me a 5"1 32 DD woman.. | |||
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" I'm Not sure of the severity of the punishment ..but it should be punishable .. all good character and good references should be withdrawn and they shouldn't be able to hold positions of authority or power as they're clearly immoral and untrustworthy people.. just take someone like Matt Hancock for example .. should he be allowed to get away with his actions Scot free and then still be in a position to lord it over others ??? Nobody is forced to be together in this life ... And if you can't be honest and decent enough to tell your partner how you feel . Then you certainly shouldn't be responsible for decisions that affect others " Fun fact; Matt Hancock didn't cheat. He had already called it off with his wife. | |||
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"Op I admire how much you have stuck to your guns here and are extremely passionate about it, only thing I can’t get my head around is if ithe woman was 32dd 5”1 and size 10 it would be ok This is why I can’t take this thread seriously " Typical male (yes yes I know not all men!!) Kicks off when gets cheated on but will happily take part in the cheating when offered. Shocking. | |||
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"Sorry to hear you've had crappy experiences which have made you feel so strongly. A good percentage of fab users are likely here without their spouses knowledge it seems so you're unlikely to get feedback in agreement all round. Equally can imagine Fab can be quite triggering while healing from cheating, time away is probably wise IMO, as is talking to a counsellor as suggested above. Better to face & work through your trauma experiences/ yourself esteem, than project onto future situations. Hope you can work through your feelings & get into a better place " Thanks . | |||
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"We don't quite understand why you are on here if you think swinging is cheating, and you hate cheating so much? And you'd fuck a size 10 woman and send pictures to her husband yet you hate cheats. You are sending out very mixed messages." You clearly don't understand anything if you think that I think that swinging is cheating ..can you even read ? If so ..show me where iv said swinging is cheating | |||
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"We don't quite understand why you are on here if you think swinging is cheating, and you hate cheating so much? And you'd fuck a size 10 woman and send pictures to her husband yet you hate cheats. You are sending out very mixed messages." Are you the woman in this couple ??? If so please find me a woman that meets my description ... When you find her I'll cheat with her just to confirm your point ok ..until then your point is irrelevant . And just a hypothesis | |||
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"Blimey, I was bored watching Moonraker… this is much more entertaining (though Moonraker’s on pause) Well done to the OP though. Whatever the opinions, he’s sticking around to argue his case. Usually these posts lead to the dreaded ‘user no longer on site’ _erverseintentions will return" Haha, I see what you did there | |||
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"Op I admire how much you have stuck to your guns here and are extremely passionate about it, only thing I can’t get my head around is if ithe woman was 32dd 5”1 and size 10 it would be ok This is why I can’t take this thread seriously Find me a 5"1 32 DD woman.. " no there all mine get your own | |||
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"We don't quite understand why you are on here if you think swinging is cheating, and you hate cheating so much? And you'd fuck a size 10 woman and send pictures to her husband yet you hate cheats. You are sending out very mixed messages. You clearly don't understand anything if you think that I think that swinging is cheating ..can you even read ? If so ..show me where iv said swinging is cheating " The part where you say in your profile about a man sharing his bird etc. | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. Empathy all round, as it’s a basic human requirement in my opinion. And.......... I’m out.......... Empathy is a basic moral human requirement .. but loyalty should be too . I beg to differ. A sizeable chunk of the population of this planet have zero empathy. Should they be reported to the police? It sounds very much like it's you who has zero empathy, as you cannot or will not understand people's reasons for their behavior. In all seriousness, not that you will agree, I think you should try talking to someone like a Counsellor. You seem to have a lot of anger,& mistrust,though you have your reasons. All this angst & stress will not do your mental health any good. Talking to someone will help you get things in prospective. I'm trying to talk here . It's not my fault there's so many judgemental people ready to attack instead of advise " You haven’t asked for advice, you asked for people to prove you wrong | |||
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"We don't quite understand why you are on here if you think swinging is cheating, and you hate cheating so much? And you'd fuck a size 10 woman and send pictures to her husband yet you hate cheats. You are sending out very mixed messages. You clearly don't understand anything if you think that I think that swinging is cheating ..can you even read ? If so ..show me where iv said swinging is cheating The part where you say in your profile about a man sharing his bird etc. " Please quote it entirely and then I'll reply | |||
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"We don't quite understand why you are on here if you think swinging is cheating, and you hate cheating so much? And you'd fuck a size 10 woman and send pictures to her husband yet you hate cheats. You are sending out very mixed messages. Are you the woman in this couple ??? If so please find me a woman that meets my description ... When you find her I'll cheat with her just to confirm your point ok ..until then your point is irrelevant . And just a hypothesis " My point is very relevant thank you. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that. | |||
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"Don't judge anyone walk a mile in their shoes. Empathy all round, as it’s a basic human requirement in my opinion. And.......... I’m out.......... Empathy is a basic moral human requirement .. but loyalty should be too . I beg to differ. A sizeable chunk of the population of this planet have zero empathy. Should they be reported to the police? It sounds very much like it's you who has zero empathy, as you cannot or will not understand people's reasons for their behavior. In all seriousness, not that you will agree, I think you should try talking to someone like a Counsellor. You seem to have a lot of anger,& mistrust,though you have your reasons. All this angst & stress will not do your mental health any good. Talking to someone will help you get things in prospective. I'm trying to talk here . It's not my fault there's so many judgemental people ready to attack instead of advise " To be fair you asked for people's views. In all seriousness a Professional Counsellor is your best option, no disrespect to other posters, though as they have valid points. This is just going to keep eating away at you mentally. And ultimately could destroy any chance of you finding the kind of lady you desire.. | |||
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"Cheating on your partner is disgusting , cruel , evil and displays a complete lack of morals. Anyone who condones cheating or encourages it is a vile piece of shit .. betrayal is fucking disgusting and if we lived in a moral society it would be punishable by law Convince me I'm wrong .. I won't try to convince you because at this point in your life, your experiences have made you intense & obviously pretty angry. You have a very black & white opinion on this, yet, you quote morality while being on a swinger's site which would to very many be immoral too...as is drug use, so which morality do you condone & which do you condemn?? For what it's worth, I have been cheated on & after 20 years of tolerating it, I was driven to make a similar choice. I don't believe I was right or justified, but I'm not evil or cruel either- neither do I believe that either my cheating husband or me deserve punishment over & above what our actions caused to ourselves. You can choose not to meet a married person playing without permission- I avoid that situation too, but unless you know everyone's circumstances, I think you're being a bit hypocritical having such a stark attitude. 8f you're going to enjoy Fab, you may need to adopt more of a live & let live attitude because you don't have the right to judge others. After twenty years of tolerating it .... Sorry but your point is moot . If you " tolerate" something your clearly not happy with it ... And no matter how you want to portray it, it eats you up inside and I can see from your wording that " you were driven to retaliation" ... So this proves my point ..cheating leads to more cheating and then a vicious circle of lies and mistrust ensues.im sorry you've been treated like that . I truely am " You are quick to make assumptions. I don't think anyone here could say something to sooth your anger & venom. I really don't believe that Fab is the place for you at this point in your life. If you have the opportunity for counselling, please take it. At some point, I hope you can do some self reflection to try & unpick what actually went wrong with your 5 or 6 failed relationships because cheating is often a symptom of other problems. | |||
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