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"Does anyone use them, are they any good, and are they safe? Keep getting emails and stuff about them and I see they’re available on the big A. " No, they are not safe and there have been a number of fatalities reported in mainstream media. Your GP can recommend over-the-counter slimming aids that are scientifically proven and deemed safe to assist weight loss. | |||
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"The only ones that actually work are illegal. They are illegal for a reason." This, they can cause hyperthermia and death very quickly if you get a particular type. Moat of the ones sold are just useless herbal concoctions that empty your wallet and dont help. | |||
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"Does anyone use them, are they any good, and are they safe? Keep getting emails and stuff about them and I see they’re available on the big A. " I was very obese for years & looked at everything on the market- sadly these are all crap- preying on the need for people to change their lives. As far as medical help, look into Saxenda. It's expensive & you can't get it on the NHS but if you answer the questions honestly & make sure to read all contra indications, it can help. Then there's bariatric surgery- I was fortunate enough to qualify on the NHS about 16 years ago but it's difficult to get it now. I have cosmetic surgeries in Poland to get rid of my excess skin but they also have weightloss surgery for around 4k. Otherwise, it's boring old calorie deficit...work out your bmr to establish how many cals you need to live, then eat 10-15% less. It's hard living with excess weight- most of it comes down to people's mental/emotional state. Unless that's in a good place, losing weight is fucking tough. Good luck with whatever you decide, op x | |||
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"Eat less and exercise more.Its the only safe way,and just as it took you time to get bigger,it will take time to get smaller. There's no miracle pills,no magic lotions,just sheer willpower and determination." All well & good, but you're not taking into account the reason why people eat. Without dealing with that, your statement is exactly the same as the heartless majority of GPs who underestimate the need to deal with this first. I was lucky to find one who didn't make dismissive statements like this, which can actually be very damaging x | |||
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"Unless they are DNP they won’t work If they are DNP your too clueless to use them without killing your self There’s no thing as a biological free lunch Eat less " I wasn't going name them but yeah, do not buy | |||
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"Unless they are DNP they won’t work If they are DNP your too clueless to use them without killing your self There’s no thing as a biological free lunch Eat less I wasn't going name them but yeah, do not buy " For anyone tempted It’s very easy to take too much DNP and the result is your body literally cooking itself from the inside our. In the event of taking too much, there is almost nothing a hospital can do except make your death less painful As I said. No such thing as a biological free lunch Eat less. Move more. | |||
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"Unless they are DNP they won’t work If they are DNP your too clueless to use them without killing your self There’s no thing as a biological free lunch Eat less I wasn't going name them but yeah, do not buy " Off to google DNP | |||
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"Unless they are DNP they won’t work If they are DNP your too clueless to use them without killing your self There’s no thing as a biological free lunch Eat less I wasn't going name them but yeah, do not buy " That was one of the ones I was talking about. I read an article where a man’s muscles basically melted off his bones from taking too much. | |||
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"Unless they are DNP they won’t work If they are DNP your too clueless to use them without killing your self There’s no thing as a biological free lunch Eat less " Ahh yes, dinitrophenol. High explosives for those who want to cook in their own skins | |||
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"Does anyone use them, are they any good, and are they safe? Keep getting emails and stuff about them and I see they’re available on the big A. " Eat well and exercise is where it’s at Mr C | |||
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"Unless they are DNP they won’t work If they are DNP your too clueless to use them without killing your self There’s no thing as a biological free lunch Eat less I wasn't going name them but yeah, do not buy That was one of the ones I was talking about. I read an article where a man’s muscles basically melted off his bones from taking too much." Was a story in the news a few years ago. Some young girl bought some diet pills not knowing they were DNP, popping them like smarties and she was dead in a matter of days. I know a few bodybuilders who use them as they too lazy to diet properly, not worth it | |||
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"Unless they are DNP they won’t work If they are DNP your too clueless to use them without killing your self There’s no thing as a biological free lunch Eat less I wasn't going name them but yeah, do not buy That was one of the ones I was talking about. I read an article where a man’s muscles basically melted off his bones from taking too much. Was a story in the news a few years ago. Some young girl bought some diet pills not knowing they were DNP, popping them like smarties and she was dead in a matter of days. I know a few bodybuilders who use them as they too lazy to diet properly, not worth it" Dangerous stuff. I know a few others that definitely work but none of them are worth the side effects. | |||
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"Unfortunately there’s no substitute for god diet and hard work. " This Don’t use them. Clean up your diet and you’ll see results | |||
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"Unless they are DNP they won’t work If they are DNP your too clueless to use them without killing your self There’s no thing as a biological free lunch Eat less I wasn't going name them but yeah, do not buy That was one of the ones I was talking about. I read an article where a man’s muscles basically melted off his bones from taking too much. Was a story in the news a few years ago. Some young girl bought some diet pills not knowing they were DNP, popping them like smarties and she was dead in a matter of days. I know a few bodybuilders who use them as they too lazy to diet properly, not worth it Dangerous stuff. I know a few others that definitely work but none of them are worth the side effects." Even more dangerous when packed into a shell | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat " If you eat fatty foods they will come out faster than you eat them… they only work as part of a better diet which is why my slimming world bible was a god send! | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat If you eat fatty foods they will come out faster than you eat them… they only work as part of a better diet which is why my slimming world bible was a god send! " Is that the alli diet pills? My friend is taking them at the moment and has complained about the liquid fat | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat If you eat fatty foods they will come out faster than you eat them… they only work as part of a better diet which is why my slimming world bible was a god send! Is that the alli diet pills? My friend is taking them at the moment and has complained about the liquid fat " Can't remember. Tried for a week. I hated it. I didn't feel well either x | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat " Dinitrophenol doesn't. You literally metabolise the fat uncontrollably, and that heat has to go somewhere | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat Dinitrophenol doesn't. You literally metabolise the fat uncontrollably, and that heat has to go somewhere" Although a high calcium diet would help shit out fat, but it would have to be fat that you consume. | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat Dinitrophenol doesn't. You literally metabolise the fat uncontrollably, and that heat has to go somewhere" How does that work? How does it come out? | |||
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"Eat less and exercise more.Its the only safe way,and just as it took you time to get bigger,it will take time to get smaller. There's no miracle pills,no magic lotions,just sheer willpower and determination. All well & good, but you're not taking into account the reason why people eat. Without dealing with that, your statement is exactly the same as the heartless majority of GPs who underestimate the need to deal with this first. I was lucky to find one who didn't make dismissive statements like this, which can actually be very damaging x " Lucky you,finding one that didn't make dismissive statements, but then I didn't have psychological problems,just bad habits,which over a (long) period of time I was able to change and have maintained for 5 years. | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat Dinitrophenol doesn't. You literally metabolise the fat uncontrollably, and that heat has to go somewhere How does that work? How does it come out?" You breathe it out as carbon dioxide | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat Dinitrophenol doesn't. You literally metabolise the fat uncontrollably, and that heat has to go somewhere How does that work? How does it come out? You breathe it out as carbon dioxide" Really? I've also tried the red ones, that are supposed to make you feel fuller, by blowing up inside you. I just felt bloated and constantly wanted a shit | |||
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"Eat less and exercise more.Its the only safe way,and just as it took you time to get bigger,it will take time to get smaller. There's no miracle pills,no magic lotions,just sheer willpower and determination. All well & good, but you're not taking into account the reason why people eat. Without dealing with that, your statement is exactly the same as the heartless majority of GPs who underestimate the need to deal with this first. I was lucky to find one who didn't make dismissive statements like this, which can actually be very damaging x Lucky you,finding one that didn't make dismissive statements, but then I didn't have psychological problems,just bad habits,which over a (long) period of time I was able to change and have maintained for 5 years." Luckily, more progressive attitudes understand that very often, overeating isn't the problem, it's a symptom. Telling someone to eat less & move more, whilst logically true, is as helpful as telling someone with depression to pull themselves together & cheer up | |||
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"Unfortunately there’s no substitute for god diet and hard work. " What about only eating cake and biscuits on a treadmill? | |||
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"Eat less and exercise more.Its the only safe way,and just as it took you time to get bigger,it will take time to get smaller. There's no miracle pills,no magic lotions,just sheer willpower and determination. All well & good, but you're not taking into account the reason why people eat. Without dealing with that, your statement is exactly the same as the heartless majority of GPs who underestimate the need to deal with this first. I was lucky to find one who didn't make dismissive statements like this, which can actually be very damaging x Lucky you,finding one that didn't make dismissive statements, but then I didn't have psychological problems,just bad habits,which over a (long) period of time I was able to change and have maintained for 5 years. Luckily, more progressive attitudes understand that very often, overeating isn't the problem, it's a symptom. Telling someone to eat less & move more, whilst logically true, is as helpful as telling someone with depression to pull themselves together & cheer up " I comfort ate after my wife went ga ga. Went to gym, got injured, low metabolism. Basically, I'm doooooomed | |||
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"Eat less and exercise more.Its the only safe way,and just as it took you time to get bigger,it will take time to get smaller. There's no miracle pills,no magic lotions,just sheer willpower and determination. All well & good, but you're not taking into account the reason why people eat. Without dealing with that, your statement is exactly the same as the heartless majority of GPs who underestimate the need to deal with this first. I was lucky to find one who didn't make dismissive statements like this, which can actually be very damaging x Lucky you,finding one that didn't make dismissive statements, but then I didn't have psychological problems,just bad habits,which over a (long) period of time I was able to change and have maintained for 5 years. Luckily, more progressive attitudes understand that very often, overeating isn't the problem, it's a symptom. Telling someone to eat less & move more, whilst logically true, is as helpful as telling someone with depression to pull themselves together & cheer up " I would disagree. There’s a huge lack of understanding in how weight loss works and before you start the process you have to make it very clear how it works. That means being very blunt in your beginner responses Once it’s realised and accepted, then you can move onto methods to make it happen But you’d be very surprised how many people think weight gain/loss is some magical process that science doesn’t understand. They think they can eat endless “x” but even a small portion of “y” will make them gain 10lbs Before you start the process you have to make sure it’s methods are understood otherwise they won’t be able to lose the weight, keep it off and do it with independently | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat Dinitrophenol doesn't. You literally metabolise the fat uncontrollably, and that heat has to go somewhere How does that work? How does it come out? You breathe it out as carbon dioxide Really? I've also tried the red ones, that are supposed to make you feel fuller, by blowing up inside you. I just felt bloated and constantly wanted a shit " That's where all of the fat you burn goes. I wouldnt know about that. I only know about dinitrophenol because the women making the munitions were discovering that the high explosives they were handling were making them lose weight. | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat Dinitrophenol doesn't. You literally metabolise the fat uncontrollably, and that heat has to go somewhere How does that work? How does it come out? You breathe it out as carbon dioxide Really? I've also tried the red ones, that are supposed to make you feel fuller, by blowing up inside you. I just felt bloated and constantly wanted a shit That's where all of the fat you burn goes. I wouldnt know about that. I only know about dinitrophenol because the women making the munitions were discovering that the high explosives they were handling were making them lose weight." Not quite, it’s literally impossible to breath it out as carbon dioxide It messes with the way food is used to create energy. Instead it creates heat. So you literally burn off food and fat as extra heat instead of storing it or using it effectively for energy Users of DNP will sweat like crazy and feel like death because of it | |||
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"I've been prescribed some new medication think it might b injections not sure as not collected them yet buy apparantly it suppresses appetite and so loose weight! I really don't want to loose weight if I'm honest! X" Is it Saxenda? Why have they prescribed it if you don’t want to loose weight? | |||
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"I've been prescribed some new medication think it might b injections not sure as not collected them yet buy apparantly it suppresses appetite and so loose weight! I really don't want to loose weight if I'm honest! X Is it Saxenda? Why have they prescribed it if you don’t want to loose weight? " I'm diabetic x | |||
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"Does anyone use them, are they any good, and are they safe? Keep getting emails and stuff about them and I see they’re available on the big A. " As long as you like sitting on the toilet all day. | |||
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"Oh, no. They make you shit liquid fat Dinitrophenol doesn't. You literally metabolise the fat uncontrollably, and that heat has to go somewhere How does that work? How does it come out? You breathe it out as carbon dioxide Really? I've also tried the red ones, that are supposed to make you feel fuller, by blowing up inside you. I just felt bloated and constantly wanted a shit That's where all of the fat you burn goes. I wouldnt know about that. I only know about dinitrophenol because the women making the munitions were discovering that the high explosives they were handling were making them lose weight. Not quite, it’s literally impossible to breath it out as carbon dioxide It messes with the way food is used to create energy. Instead it creates heat. So you literally burn off food and fat as extra heat instead of storing it or using it effectively for energy Users of DNP will sweat like crazy and feel like death because of it " Yeah, but as with any chemical reaction, there are always chemical products left over from the exothermic reaction. Sure it gets burned and output as heat, but those waste chemicals still need to be removed from the body, the carbon is breathed out as carbon dioxide and the other elements through urine. | |||
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"I've been prescribed some new medication think it might b injections not sure as not collected them yet buy apparantly it suppresses appetite and so loose weight! I really don't want to loose weight if I'm honest! X Is it Saxenda? Why have they prescribed it if you don’t want to loose weight? I'm diabetic x" Saxenda was originally a diabetic medication. It does suppress your appetite by mimicking a hunger suppressing hormone, which helps prevent overeating. It's introduced at a low dose & increased over a few weeks. | |||
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"Phentermine, it works and is prescription only. It’s an appetite suppressant. Tricky bit is finding it but there are a couple of private clinics that you can register with & health is closely monitored. " I take this ever now and again. Iv never had any trouble finding it though | |||
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"Phentermine, it works and is prescription only. It’s an appetite suppressant. Tricky bit is finding it but there are a couple of private clinics that you can register with & health is closely monitored. " Out of curiosity … how much do you pay for a week? | |||
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"I've been prescribed some new medication think it might b injections not sure as not collected them yet buy apparantly it suppresses appetite and so loose weight! I really don't want to loose weight if I'm honest! X Is it Saxenda? Why have they prescribed it if you don’t want to loose weight? I'm diabetic x Saxenda was originally a diabetic medication. It does suppress your appetite by mimicking a hunger suppressing hormone, which helps prevent overeating. It's introduced at a low dose & increased over a few weeks. " All very depressing x | |||
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"Phentermine, it works and is prescription only. It’s an appetite suppressant. Tricky bit is finding it but there are a couple of private clinics that you can register with & health is closely monitored. Out of curiosity … how much do you pay for a week? " I don’t know - been many years since I had some. A couple of friends have recently paid £100 for 28 pills!! I’m sure this is considerably more than I paid about 10 years ago x | |||
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"Thanks for all comments and advice. Definitely a no no then. I’m not particularly overweight but wondered about them " Glad you have decided to stay clear of them. I'm off to Cap D'Agde in 10 weeks and need to get around a stone off to look good naked on the beach and around the village. This works for me. Empty kitchen of crisps, biscuits and and snacks, if the're not in the cupboard you can't get to them. No booze, none at all. No bread or potatoes, replace the potatoes with another vegetable. Lean meat and fish. Last night was turkey steak, cabbage, carrots and cauliflower. Salad taken to work for lunch, no dressing or at least a few sprays of the low calorie balsamic vinegar stuff. Breakfast cornflakes and milk. Lots of assorted fruit in the fruit bowl at home. When you feel really shit and think you are starving, you're not, you're bored. Imagine some poor starving man standing in front of you, would he refuse an apple or pear, no he wouldn't. Buy online if possible saves having all those hobnobs in the supermarket aisle shouting eat me, eat me. When the weight is off, it will be, guarantee it, then its nice to feel a bit smug and I'll get lots of sex on holiday too. Win win I'd say. Give it a whirl. | |||
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