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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. " Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. " Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful." Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. "  | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. " I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny  . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them? | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them? "How is it funny? You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel. | |||
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"Unsolicited dick pictures on social media, dating sites and data sharing services to become a criminal offence. Thoughts?" Good! I just delete them but many people find it upsetting. No doubt it will be misused against some in revenge. (If for example consent was in a telephone call, a screenshot could seem to show unsolicited) | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel. "The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening. I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time. I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either. "I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that. But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
"The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen. Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen.
Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing. "So what's the alternative we don't try and legislate against something that is causing lots of people to feel harassed and alarmed simply because they dare to have a social media presence or an online dating account? | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen.
Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing.
So what's the alternative we don't try and legislate against something that is causing lots of people to feel harassed and alarmed simply because they dare to have a social media presence or an online dating account?"They said "legislation alone isn't enough" not don't legislate. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen.
Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing.
So what's the alternative we don't try and legislate against something that is causing lots of people to feel harassed and alarmed simply because they dare to have a social media presence or an online dating account?
They said "legislation alone isn't enough" not don't legislate. "And we come full circle because if you read the legislation you would see the measures that are being put in place as this is part of a much bigger bill. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen.
Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing.
So what's the alternative we don't try and legislate against something that is causing lots of people to feel harassed and alarmed simply because they dare to have a social media presence or an online dating account?
They said "legislation alone isn't enough" not don't legislate.
And we come full circle because if you read the legislation you would see the measures that are being put in place as this is part of a much bigger bill. "Yes it is. They have also covered pile-on harassment and deepfake pornography. However, it is still just legislation. There is still the issue of lack of resources as with others laws that already exist. I don't think anyone thinks its a bad thing, just somewhat unhelpful in addressing the actual root cause of the problem which is a cultural and societal issue. Its like with mobile phone use while driving. The harsher punishments have done very little to reduce the problem. | |||
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"Well it looks like countless members of our own Police Service will be investigating each other. I’ve lost count of the number of unsolicited dick photos I’ve received from officers - not just on here but through my employment which involved working with police " No fucking way  thats so wrong especially at a workplace | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen.
Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing.
So what's the alternative we don't try and legislate against something that is causing lots of people to feel harassed and alarmed simply because they dare to have a social media presence or an online dating account?
They said "legislation alone isn't enough" not don't legislate.
And we come full circle because if you read the legislation you would see the measures that are being put in place as this is part of a much bigger bill.
Yes it is. They have also covered pile-on harassment and deepfake pornography. However, it is still just legislation. There is still the issue of lack of resources as with others laws that already exist.
I don't think anyone thinks its a bad thing, just somewhat unhelpful in addressing the actual root cause of the problem which is a cultural and societal issue. Its like with mobile phone use while driving. The harsher punishments have done very little to reduce the problem. "I mentioned the root cause of the problem but you thought it was funny. This will not solve the problem however by making it criminal it will deter some people and this has to be a good thing so I stand by every statement I've made. We need to make it socially unacceptable and this is a really good step in that direction. | |||
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"Sites such as these will change their t’s & c’s. “By clicking to accept this you agree that you may receive unsolicited material ……….blah blah blah legal get out speak “ " I think sites like this are going to be a grey area. If it's the law then you can't opt out of the law with a disclaimer. | |||
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"Well it looks like countless members of our own Police Service will be investigating each other. I’ve lost count of the number of unsolicited dick photos I’ve received from officers - not just on here but through my employment which involved working with police " I'm sorry to hear this  . I guess this ties into a previous conversation on here the other day about difficulties reporting domestic abuse incidences when there's a significant incidence of domestic abuse perpetrated by police officers. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen.
Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing.
So what's the alternative we don't try and legislate against something that is causing lots of people to feel harassed and alarmed simply because they dare to have a social media presence or an online dating account?
They said "legislation alone isn't enough" not don't legislate.
And we come full circle because if you read the legislation you would see the measures that are being put in place as this is part of a much bigger bill.
Yes it is. They have also covered pile-on harassment and deepfake pornography. However, it is still just legislation. There is still the issue of lack of resources as with others laws that already exist.
I don't think anyone thinks its a bad thing, just somewhat unhelpful in addressing the actual root cause of the problem which is a cultural and societal issue. Its like with mobile phone use while driving. The harsher punishments have done very little to reduce the problem.
I mentioned the root cause of the problem but you thought it was funny.
This will not solve the problem however by making it criminal it will deter some people and this has to be a good thing so I stand by every statement I've made.
We need to make it socially unacceptable and this is a really good step in that direction. "Like I said, from my interpretation of the comments, I don't feel anyone suggested it's a bad thing. I think the root cause is more complicated than responsibility or whether it's illegal or not. The key issue is the unsolicited part and just as with sexual assault, the issue is down to our cultural attitudes to consent. More specifically that we tend to heavily communicate via implied consent over explicit consent. I genuinely believe that a lot of men send dick pictures because they think the person they are sending it to wants to see it. They may interpret matching on a dating site or flirting as consent. I think some see simply being a member of sites like this as consent. So therefore they don't believe that their message is unsolicited. Those things aren't consent though. To go even further into grey areas, I had one once from a guy from a dating site who in the middle of a perfectly pleasant, normal, vanilla conversation asked if he could show me something I might like and I responded "sure" only to unexpectedly receive a dick picture. From his perspective, I agreed to be sent something. I on the other hand don't tend to feel the need to check if it's a dick picture if the conversation prior has given no indication that that is at all likely. I think the idea of explicitly stating your intentions to send sexual images seems jarring to some people as they're used to a culture of hints and suggestion. | |||
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"Well it looks like countless members of our own Police Service will be investigating each other. I’ve lost count of the number of unsolicited dick photos I’ve received from officers - not just on here but through my employment which involved working with police " What the fuck?!  | |||
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"Unsolicited dick pictures on social media, dating sites and data sharing services to become a criminal offence. Thoughts?" Good...I think its offensive  | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either. "Not true, the Police have specialist units to deal with online sexual harassment an cyber crime, when I was having stalker issues with a guy all I had to do was give profile details and username and he was found. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
Not true, the Police have specialist units to deal with online sexual harassment an cyber crime, when I was having stalker issues with a guy all I had to do was give profile details and username and he was found."I've been stalked for 6 years by an ex partner. Going to the police has never got me anywhere. | |||
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"Unsolicited dick pictures on social media, dating sites and data sharing services to become a criminal offence. Thoughts?" Can I still photo copy my arse at the office party ? | |||
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"Unsolicited dick pictures on social media, dating sites and data sharing services to become a criminal offence. Thoughts? Good! I just delete them but many people find it upsetting. No doubt it will be misused against some in revenge. (If for example consent was in a telephone call, a screenshot could seem to show unsolicited)" I was just thinking that. I’m now never going to send a fanny pic to anyone ever again because in a few years when I’ve forgotten about Fab, it could come back to haunt me! And all emails etc getting consent would have long gone. | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen.
Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing. "Stupid thing so is dogging illegal if there is a chance it may offend people. So is flashing outside if others can see but at least 80% on this site will still do this. | |||
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"Sites such as these will change their t’s & c’s. “By clicking to accept this you agree that you may receive unsolicited material ……….blah blah blah legal get out speak “ I think sites like this are going to be a grey area. If it's the law then you can't opt out of the law with a disclaimer. " You can, by ticking a box saying you understand you might receive these things your basically giving consent. Sites like this might do that to avoid any legal problems that would result in their site becoming a target You chose from your own free will to join a site that told you that you will probably receive that kinda stuff and you checked a box saying that’s ok. You d effectively given consent Very different to someone emailing you a dick pic on something like Facebook or a private email address I think it’ll be kinda like how your not meant to give porn to children but the only barrier to a porn site is a check box asking if you are of age. | |||
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I hope it does lead to prosecutions and deter people from sending minging and unwanted dick pics both here and on social media.
I have a clear request on my profile “do not send dick pics” but they send them anyway.
The same on my insta yet my inbox there is full of them! And why is it always the rotten looking dicks that get sent? | |||
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I hope it does lead to prosecutions and deter people from sending minging and unwanted dick pics both here and on social media.
I have a clear request on my profile “do not send dick pics” but they send them anyway.
The same on my insta yet my inbox there is full of them! And why is it always the rotten looking dicks that get sent? "The social media thing always baffles me. You'd think in this day and age that an AI program could screen messages for likely dick pics etc... LvM | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen.
Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing.
So what's the alternative we don't try and legislate against something that is causing lots of people to feel harassed and alarmed simply because they dare to have a social media presence or an online dating account?
They said "legislation alone isn't enough" not don't legislate.
And we come full circle because if you read the legislation you would see the measures that are being put in place as this is part of a much bigger bill.
Yes it is. They have also covered pile-on harassment and deepfake pornography. However, it is still just legislation. There is still the issue of lack of resources as with others laws that already exist.
I don't think anyone thinks its a bad thing, just somewhat unhelpful in addressing the actual root cause of the problem which is a cultural and societal issue. Its like with mobile phone use while driving. The harsher punishments have done very little to reduce the problem.
I mentioned the root cause of the problem but you thought it was funny.
This will not solve the problem however by making it criminal it will deter some people and this has to be a good thing so I stand by every statement I've made.
We need to make it socially unacceptable and this is a really good step in that direction.
Like I said, from my interpretation of the comments, I don't feel anyone suggested it's a bad thing.
I think the root cause is more complicated than responsibility or whether it's illegal or not. The key issue is the unsolicited part and just as with sexual assault, the issue is down to our cultural attitudes to consent. More specifically that we tend to heavily communicate via implied consent over explicit consent. I genuinely believe that a lot of men send dick pictures because they think the person they are sending it to wants to see it. They may interpret matching on a dating site or flirting as consent. I think some see simply being a member of sites like this as consent. So therefore they don't believe that their message is unsolicited. Those things aren't consent though. To go even further into grey areas, I had one once from a guy from a dating site who in the middle of a perfectly pleasant, normal, vanilla conversation asked if he could show me something I might like and I responded "sure" only to unexpectedly receive a dick picture. From his perspective, I agreed to be sent something. I on the other hand don't tend to feel the need to check if it's a dick picture if the conversation prior has given no indication that that is at all likely. I think the idea of explicitly stating your intentions to send sexual images seems jarring to some people as they're used to a culture of hints and suggestion. "I see it as a positive. If a man is really so thick that he thinks "do you want to see something you might like" is consent to a cock pic then I don't want anything to do with him. Time saved. I think people on here assume everyone is constantly thinking about and wanting sex. They can't comprehend that some people don't want to hear about their sex lives or receive pics of their genitals. The uncomfortable truth is they are a fine line away from being a sex offender. | |||
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"So many people with sticks up there arses in this world Do they send you the pics?" yes the splinters are a horror show | |||
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I hope it does lead to prosecutions and deter people from sending minging and unwanted dick pics both here and on social media.
I have a clear request on my profile “do not send dick pics” but they send them anyway.
The same on my insta yet my inbox there is full of them! And why is it always the rotten looking dicks that get sent?
The social media thing always baffles me. You'd think in this day and age that an AI program could screen messages for likely dick pics etc...
LvM"Yeah that's what I was thinking, with a blur, and this make contain explicit material, click if you want to see it etc message. | |||
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"So many people with sticks up there arses in this world I’m curious as to why? " i assume because they like it up there | |||
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I hope it does lead to prosecutions and deter people from sending minging and unwanted dick pics both here and on social media.
I have a clear request on my profile “do not send dick pics” but they send them anyway.
The same on my insta yet my inbox there is full of them! And why is it always the rotten looking dicks that get sent?
The social media thing always baffles me. You'd think in this day and age that an AI program could screen messages for likely dick pics etc...
LvM
Yeah that's what I was thinking, with a blur, and this make contain explicit material, click if you want to see it etc message. "Lots of dating apps are already doing that. I’ve had girls send me nice pics and no blurr, then rude pics and they get blurred with a disclaimer that it might be gross The tech is there | |||
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"I wonder why dicks are so offensive and does it include boobs and fannys or if its just dicks" Yep, the law applies to anyone regardless of gender sending unsolicited pictures of their genitalia. | |||
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"So many people with sticks up there arses in this world I’m curious as to why? " Anal's fun? 
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"I wonder why dicks are so offensive and does it include boobs and fannys or if its just dicks Yep, the law applies to anyone regardless of gender sending unsolicited pictures of their genitalia. " soo boobies are ok then cool im good with that then | |||
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"I wonder why dicks are so offensive and does it include boobs and fannys or if its just dicks Yep, the law applies to anyone regardless of gender sending unsolicited pictures of their genitalia. soo boobies are ok then cool im good with that then "I guess so....as you've said you don't mind boobicle pics | |||
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"My general thoughts are it’s good in theory but hard to police. If your stupid enough to make an account somewhere you can be verified and identified and do it, the police might come knocking But there’s plenty of ways to send dick pics without it being traceable We’ve had a war on drugs going for decades that have basically been beaten by burner phones, Snapchat and end to end encryption messaging platforms I don’t think we’re going to suddenly crackdown on dick pics " This is my thoughts to unfortunately. All kinds of abhorrent crimes happen virtually | |||
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"I predict the law will only be sporadically enforced due to lack of police resources. Actually know anybody can report and it has to be investigated according to the new law. Legislation alone isn't enough. The fact that the law requires the police to investigate doesn't magically create the resources for them to do it. All it does is allow the government to say "look, we did a thing!" and the fob the blame off onto the police when hardly anyone actually gets charged. Remember, legislation is like prayer - a cheap and easy alternative to doing something useful. Actually I think you'll find the responsibility comes down to the individual not to commit a crime. I'm sorry Lorna but this is kinda funny . What are we going to do with all these prisons now we no longer need them?
How is it funny?
You started a thread that's actually not accurate and it's actually going to carry a sentence of upto 2 years. This is serious and will have a lot of implications for people using sites like this I feel.
The idea that the responsibility of the individual not to comit a crime alone is enough to stop a crime from happening.
I've reported a crime that carrys a sentence of up to 6 months. They didn't serve any time.
I think it's going to be a hard thing to prove that it was unsolicited. Especially if you've ever met someone in person or had a phone conversation. If it's a random interaction online you're unlikely to know any identifying details like surname or date of birth. Most websites don't require ID to use them either.
I didn't say it was enough to stop it happening I just stated it is on the individual and what is funny about that.
But I don't think you've read the legislation properly, In cases where somebody is found guilty they will have to sign the sex offenders register, this has serious consequences even if no prison sentence. I don't know whether it will apply to sites like this or not but it's all part of the online safety bill which will Also makes it a requirement for site owners to monitor content more vigorously and make it harder for people to be anonymous.
The point is they need to be found guilty. Even if they did it, it doesn't mean that will happen.
Death threats are already illegal but people still received them on social media and reporting it often results in nothing.
Stupid thing so is dogging illegal if there is a chance it may offend people. So is flashing outside if others can see but at least 80% on this site will still do this."I don't think you will find 80% of the people on this site go out flashing. | |||
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"I wonder why dicks are so offensive and does it include boobs and fannys or if its just dicks" It is any genitals. However, I decided to focus on dick pics because they're both the more widely discussed issue on here and the only one I have experience of personally. | |||
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"Dam it, I've just taken a load of new pics aswell. " You can display them on your profile as by using a site like this you know your going to see intimate images. You just can't send images of yourself That show parts of your genitalia to anybody that you don't have permission from. | |||
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"I wonder why dicks are so offensive and does it include boobs and fannys or if its just dicks It is any genitals. However, I decided to focus on dick pics because they're both the more widely discussed issue on here and the only one I have experience of personally. " Sorry I missed the boobs part. It says sexual images so I imagine it depends on the context of the image. For example I can't imagine a breastfeeding picture would count though I doubt they're being sent unsolicited. Though you never know. | |||
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"Dam it, I've just taken a load of new pics aswell. You can display them on your profile as by using a site like this you know your going to see intimate images. You just can't send images of yourself That show parts of your genitalia to anybody that you don't have permission from. " I'll get the permission forms drafted up. | |||
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"Dam it, I've just taken a load of new pics aswell. You can display them on your profile as by using a site like this you know your going to see intimate images. You just can't send images of yourself That show parts of your genitalia to anybody that you don't have permission from. I'll get the permission forms drafted up. " I’ll see you in court. | |||
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"I wonder why dicks are so offensive and does it include boobs and fannys or if its just dicks It is any genitals. However, I decided to focus on dick pics because they're both the more widely discussed issue on here and the only one I have experience of personally. Sorry I missed the boobs part. It says sexual images so I imagine it depends on the context of the image. For example I can't imagine a breastfeeding picture would count though I doubt they're being sent unsolicited. Though you never know. " I guess that's where it becomes tricky because Facebook for example has removed breastfeeding photos in the past as explicit images so I guess the legislation will need to be clear. | |||
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"Dam it, I've just taken a load of new pics aswell. You can display them on your profile as by using a site like this you know your going to see intimate images. You just can't send images of yourself That show parts of your genitalia to anybody that you don't have permission from. I'll get the permission forms drafted up. I’ll see you in court." Kinky | |||
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"Dam it, I've just taken a load of new pics aswell. You can display them on your profile as by using a site like this you know your going to see intimate images. You just can't send images of yourself That show parts of your genitalia to anybody that you don't have permission from. I'll get the permission forms drafted up. I’ll see you in court. Kinky" In!!!! Not round the back of. That’s after. | |||
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"I wonder why dicks are so offensive and does it include boobs and fannys or if its just dicks It is any genitals. However, I decided to focus on dick pics because they're both the more widely discussed issue on here and the only one I have experience of personally. Sorry I missed the boobs part. It says sexual images so I imagine it depends on the context of the image. For example I can't imagine a breastfeeding picture would count though I doubt they're being sent unsolicited. Though you never know. I guess that's where it becomes tricky because Facebook for example has removed breastfeeding photos in the past as explicit images so I guess the legislation will need to be clear. " Facebook is a strange one. I've had pictures removed because you could make out the outline of a nipple through a latex catsuit if you squinted really hard. They also regularly remove comments that mention the book 'The Ethical Slut'. However, hate speech, death threats and r*pe threats often "don't violate their community standards". Strange place | |||
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"I wonder why dicks are so offensive and does it include boobs and fannys or if its just dicks Yep, the law applies to anyone regardless of gender sending unsolicited pictures of their genitalia. soo boobies are ok then cool im good with that then
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