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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet" Absolutely agreed. But in the meantime... I turned off my heating two months ago and am just cold. | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet" Do you speak from experience of knowing many Tories and millionaires or is this a throw grenade rant at something you know nothing about? | |||
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"“I don’t have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It’s a depression. Everybody’s out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel’s worth. Banks are going bust. Shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there’s nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there’s no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that’s the way it’s supposed to be. We know things are bad – worse than bad. They’re crazy. It’s like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don’t go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is: ‘Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won’t say anything. Just leave us alone.’ Well, I’m not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get MAD! I don’t want you to protest. I don’t want you to riot – I don’t want you to write to your congressman, because I wouldn’t know what to tell you to write. I don’t know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you’ve got to get mad. (shouting) You’ve got to say: ‘I’m a human being, god-dammit! My life has value!’ " What film script is this from? | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet" While a vent is often great, when put in context of energy price rises globally, and certainly in Europe, I don’t think we can point the to get at a Tory government wholesale for this given every country is getting it bad and some worse to come (eg Europe relies on 30% Russian gas, we are 3%). Sure they’re shit, but they don’t control the worldwide energy trading markets | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet" I'm assuming you've done some actual research into this and not just spouting unsubstantiated drivel? | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet" Yup it's disgusting but unless you can come up with a better idea how to heat my house for free? I do agree that the energy companies should be made to take a hit in profit and the government should definitely step in to put a cap on bills NOW. Not next year or year after. It's greed that's pushing up price's same as petrol price. Demand is no different it's greed pure and simple. | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet Yup it's disgusting but unless you can come up with a better idea how to heat my house for free? I do agree that the energy companies should be made to take a hit in profit and the government should definitely step in to put a cap on bills NOW. Not next year or year after. It's greed that's pushing up price's same as petrol price. Demand is no different it's greed pure and simple. " I think that profits should be limited to a certain percent and no more. I've shut off most of my flat, turned the heating off, wash everything on cold and eco, wash the bed sheets less often, and only cook (batch cook only) with the slow cooker and microwave. If it helps. | |||
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"Perhaps Jeff Bezos could offer to pay the counties energy bills for a year to make up for all the taxes Amazon has dodged. "If there were less tax dodging we might be in a better position. Lol In the meantime... I also have tips. (Don't use a dryer. Use a drying rack) | |||
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"The OP asked for some specific practical bits of advise but yet again that is ignored and turning the thread into a party political debate. Whilst a good debate about these things is always great, does not have to constantly highjack every thread someone is looking for a bit of practical advise to deal with their day to day problems as it feels they are ignored. Just my opinion of course and I am certainly not someone who thinks I am always right." Well said Tip only boil what you need in the kettle | |||
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"Perhaps we can share nuggets of wisdom on how to save money on heating and electricity without forking out on other things preparing for the up and coming billageddon. Bathe with your partner or have an alarm set to say 5 mins for shower's. Change lightbulbs to low energy efficient one's. We have two spare quilts that we keep behind the sofa and wrap up in when watching the tellybox." I'm never going to complain about my hot flushes again because they mean that I don't need to put the heating on. My kids always did call me 'the radiator' 
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"Perhaps we can share nuggets of wisdom on how to save money on heating and electricity without forking out on other things preparing for the up and coming billageddon. Bathe with your partner or have an alarm set to say 5 mins for shower's. Change lightbulbs to low energy efficient one's. We have two spare quilts that we keep behind the sofa and wrap up in when watching the tellybox. I'm never going to complain about my hot flushes again because they mean that I don't need to put the heating on. My kids always did call me 'the radiator'
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet Yup it's disgusting but unless you can come up with a better idea how to heat my house for free? I do agree that the energy companies should be made to take a hit in profit and the government should definitely step in to put a cap on bills NOW. Not next year or year after. It's greed that's pushing up price's same as petrol price. Demand is no different it's greed pure and simple. " There is already a price cap in place, that limits what energy suppliers can charge customers. They are all selling energy at a loss because of it - that's why so many of them have gone out of business in the last few months | |||
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"What's batch cooking?" Essentially cooking to create leftovers | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet Do you speak from experience of knowing many Tories and millionaires or is this a throw grenade rant at something you know nothing about?" Most likely the latter | |||
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"What's batch cooking?" I always cook enough for 2-3 days , chilli,,curry etc and a huge pan of rice or pasta. It rarely makes it to fridge or the freezer as there’s always people here eating so just stays on the cooker , but when I do get the place to myself I freeze portions. It’s so cheap , I spend around £100 - £150 a month of food for 2-4 people. I’ve noticed oils and fruit rising in price but the amount of disposable income spent on food is so small that inflation isn’t really felt | |||
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"The government should be helping the voters/..... Energy firms raking high profits in - I bet they are not cutting their energy use to the absolute minimum. Wearing fleece indoors and going to bed to keep warm. Petrol and diesel prices through the roof and the government allowing the price caps to be set beyond reasonable. Stop Foreign Aid to other countries when we need the help too. Cut Royal family budget Make everyone pay Council Tax since we all use the services Stop taxing on pensions when people retire" How about them paying a decent pension they broke their promise to keep the triple lock .we pay in more and get less than most other countries in Europe | |||
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"“I don’t have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It’s a depression. Everybody’s out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel’s worth. Banks are going bust. Shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there’s nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there’s no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that’s the way it’s supposed to be. We know things are bad – worse than bad. They’re crazy. It’s like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don’t go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is: ‘Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won’t say anything. Just leave us alone.’ Well, I’m not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get MAD! I don’t want you to protest. I don’t want you to riot – I don’t want you to write to your congressman, because I wouldn’t know what to tell you to write. I don’t know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you’ve got to get mad. (shouting) You’ve got to say: ‘I’m a human being, god-dammit! My life has value!’ What film script is this from?" It does seem a bit C and V doesnt it | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet Yup it's disgusting but unless you can come up with a better idea how to heat my house for free? I do agree that the energy companies should be made to take a hit in profit and the government should definitely step in to put a cap on bills NOW. Not next year or year after. It's greed that's pushing up price's same as petrol price. Demand is no different it's greed pure and simple. " Demand is different. Last year was a harsh winter combined with more people at home during the day. That meant more usage. That meant prices went up As more was used last winter there is less reserves so prices have gone up. The UK no longer has masses of gas storage facilities, we can't buy cheap and sell at a later date. | |||
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" Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? " Of course they are, seeing investments drop by 6% in the last few weeks and inflation running at over 5 % has a huge impact on decisions . I have more than enough disposable income but am very careful, can live comfortable on around 10% of my income but this week have cancelled PT sessions at £140 a month and massively reducing things like Uber, eating out and buying clothes. It makes sense to limit spending. "Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? " Yes in part. People who need less and give more are generally much happier and successful. I’ve always encouraged my kids to live on around 70-80% max , save for emergencies, enjoy the things that are free and give a good chunk of income away | |||
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"I think this "throw away" society mentality that many under 35s have gotten used to in recent years really hasn't helped. People have just got used to throw away rather than repair, replace what's in perfect condition. I'm not saying that it's the reason for high energy bills but it must add with transportation costs of goods and so on. Obviously if you can buy something newer that's more energy efficient and can save you money then go for it." Make do and mend as they say. We know it’s tough for everyone but in comparison it’s not like we’re living in the 1930’s when people we’re truly poor. The younger generation overlook how tough it was for generations gone by. | |||
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"Not specifically gas or electric but money saving for sure. Not sure people are ready for it though.... it is a real left field idea that could help 1000's of people... walk more, drive less. "No car. On it  | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet" wow did life not work out for you then | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet wow did life not work out for you then" Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok I’m just wondering how many years of stagnant wages and rising living costs people will put up with By all means, if your happy turning your heating off and buying cheaper foods while people at the top do nothing to help, then sure, crack on | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies" As an electrician, no it doesn’t | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t " Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert  | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet wow did life not work out for you then Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok I’m just wondering how many years of stagnant wages and rising living costs people will put up with By all means, if your happy turning your heating off and buying cheaper foods while people at the top do nothing to help, then sure, crack on " how do you know your in the top 2%, are you in the sunday times rich list, stop talking rubish your a sparky by your own admision, you may do ok, but please | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert "It was always about £1 per month per device based on 1/2-3watt standby consumption but with unit rates around 30p imagine it’s higher now. | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert "Leaving things on standby uses more energy than switching them off. They simply can't use more power in standby, it's illogical. You have the right idea but the wrong reasoning | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet wow did life not work out for you then Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok I’m just wondering how many years of stagnant wages and rising living costs people will put up with By all means, if your happy turning your heating off and buying cheaper foods while people at the top do nothing to help, then sure, crack on " People will put up with it , they choose to earn low wages because it’s easier to do that, complain, look for life hacks, follow Martin Lewis”s shit advice , dream of winning lotto than to sort out their income. Anyone can get to six figure salary it just takes 5-10 years of hard work | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet wow did life not work out for you then Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok I’m just wondering how many years of stagnant wages and rising living costs people will put up with By all means, if your happy turning your heating off and buying cheaper foods while people at the top do nothing to help, then sure, crack on how do you know your in the top 2%, are you in the sunday times rich list, stop talking rubish your a sparky by your own admision, you may do ok, but please" There’s resolves online, it’s not hard to put your wages in and see where you fall When the average income in the UK is around 30k it’s no surprise | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert "Just get yourself a tester with an amp clamp on it. Test the amps running through a device when it’s on vs when it’s off | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert
It was always about £1 per month per device based on 1/2-3watt standby consumption but with unit rates around 30p imagine it’s higher now. "Thanks and each appliance would use different amounts... | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert
Just get yourself a tester with an amp clamp on it. Test the amps running through a device when it’s on vs when it’s off "But we're discussing how to save money and buying one of those I wouldn't be it's easier listening to Martin Lewis as he is a expert and neither of us are | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet wow did life not work out for you then Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok I’m just wondering how many years of stagnant wages and rising living costs people will put up with By all means, if your happy turning your heating off and buying cheaper foods while people at the top do nothing to help, then sure, crack on People will put up with it , they choose to earn low wages because it’s easier to do that, complain, look for life hacks, follow Martin Lewis”s shit advice , dream of winning lotto than to sort out their income. Anyone can get to six figure salary it just takes 5-10 years of hard work " That's a simply insane claim.  | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert
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"The OP asked for some specific practical bits of advise but yet again that is ignored and turning the thread into a party political debate. Whilst a good debate about these things is always great, does not have to constantly highjack every thread someone is looking for a bit of practical advise to deal with their day to day problems as it feels they are ignored. Just my opinion of course and I am certainly not someone who thinks I am always right."  | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet wow did life not work out for you then Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok I’m just wondering how many years of stagnant wages and rising living costs people will put up with By all means, if your happy turning your heating off and buying cheaper foods while people at the top do nothing to help, then sure, crack on People will put up with it , they choose to earn low wages because it’s easier to do that, complain, look for life hacks, follow Martin Lewis”s shit advice , dream of winning lotto than to sort out their income. Anyone can get to six figure salary it just takes 5-10 years of hard work Doesn’t appeal to us. There is more to life than that. We do choose to be where we are as what we are happy and comfortable in life. We don’t even do the lottery. If you wish to work that hard fair play! If that’s what works for you. There has always been pressure from society to earn big work hard ! No thank you! The finer things in life is more appealing to us like looking after your health and family doing the things that we want to do. I often wonder why so many millionaires and business owners are stressed and look fed up. You wouldn’t think they would with all that money surely. We do know a few. " The real workers are those on the ground not the fat cats in their ivory towers | |||
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" Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok " A sparky on over £100k a year? | |||
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" Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok A sparky on over £100k a year?" Absolutely, it’s not hard for a solo sparky to break 60-70k a year. That’s still top 4% earnings A small business can easily break 100. | |||
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"I brought a Hive smart energy system including smart TRV’s, now I only heat the rooms that I need to and control it via an app. My energy consumption has dropped but obviously the energy price increases have hit me like everyone else." No offence, but you've spent money on kit to do something that you can easily do manually for no cost. You've spent more money than you will save and unfortunately that will be the same for a lot of people. | |||
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"I brought a Hive smart energy system including smart TRV’s, now I only heat the rooms that I need to and control it via an app. My energy consumption has dropped but obviously the energy price increases have hit me like everyone else. No offence, but you've spent money on kit to do something that you can easily do manually for no cost. You've spent more money than you will save and unfortunately that will be the same for a lot of people." With respect you’re wrong. I can now control all rads including inaccessible ones via an app. My energy consumption has reduced by around 20% so over a couple of years the system will have paid for itself. | |||
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" Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok A sparky on over £100k a year? Absolutely, it’s not hard for a solo sparky to break 60-70k a year. That’s still top 4% earnings A small business can easily break 100. The £60k+ I can't argue with but that is only just top 10% Maybe we are looking at different resources? Mine puts 80k/year at the top 2% I'm looking at government stats on a few different websites, 60k and a smidgen is 10%. 80k is top 5, just." We all know stats can be comprised anyone that’s worked in a business | |||
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" Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok A sparky on over £100k a year? Absolutely, it’s not hard for a solo sparky to break 60-70k a year. That’s still top 4% earnings A small business can easily break 100. The £60k+ I can't argue with but that is only just top 10% Maybe we are looking at different resources? Mine puts 80k/year at the top 2% I'm looking at government stats on a few different websites, 60k and a smidgen is 10%. 80k is top 5, just." Guess there’s not 1 size fits all answer depending how you push the numbers, but it always shocks me how high up the ladder a simple tradesman can be 30k average income in the UK. Wages aren’t going up, inflation is going up, living cost is going up, house prices are through the roof. Services like the NHS and our roads area crumbling And people are more concerned with only boiling half a kettle or putting towels under their door than asking why. | |||
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"I brought a Hive smart energy system including smart TRV’s, now I only heat the rooms that I need to and control it via an app. My energy consumption has dropped but obviously the energy price increases have hit me like everyone else. No offence, but you've spent money on kit to do something that you can easily do manually for no cost. You've spent more money than you will save and unfortunately that will be the same for a lot of people. With respect you’re wrong. I can now control all rads including inaccessible ones via an app. My energy consumption has reduced by around 20% so over a couple of years the system will have paid for itself." Well no, I'm not. You've paid money to make things easier. Congrats that it's worked for you but you could have manually turned them down. | |||
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"I brought a Hive smart energy system including smart TRV’s, now I only heat the rooms that I need to and control it via an app. My energy consumption has dropped but obviously the energy price increases have hit me like everyone else. No offence, but you've spent money on kit to do something that you can easily do manually for no cost. You've spent more money than you will save and unfortunately that will be the same for a lot of people. With respect you’re wrong. I can now control all rads including inaccessible ones via an app. My energy consumption has reduced by around 20% so over a couple of years the system will have paid for itself. Well no, I'm not. You've paid money to make things easier. Congrats that it's worked for you but you could have manually turned them down." He’s not wrong It would be like buying a device that turns your sockets off when you go out. It lowers energy usage, but you could have done that without the device | |||
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"I brought a Hive smart energy system including smart TRV’s, now I only heat the rooms that I need to and control it via an app. My energy consumption has dropped but obviously the energy price increases have hit me like everyone else. No offence, but you've spent money on kit to do something that you can easily do manually for no cost. You've spent more money than you will save and unfortunately that will be the same for a lot of people. With respect you’re wrong. I can now control all rads including inaccessible ones via an app. My energy consumption has reduced by around 20% so over a couple of years the system will have paid for itself. Well no, I'm not. You've paid money to make things easier. Congrats that it's worked for you but you could have manually turned them down." In your opinion, you don’t know anything about my house and how inaccessible some of the rads are. It’s a pain to get to them! A small investment is reaping rewards via lower consumption whether that’s via technology or via your hands. | |||
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"Get a bycicle sell the car x Light candles, turn off the lights. read a book turn the tv off. " Instead of vegetables just buy a multivitamin | |||
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" Being in the top 2% of earners in the UK it’s actually turned out ok A sparky on over £100k a year? Absolutely, it’s not hard for a solo sparky to break 60-70k a year. That’s still top 4% earnings A small business can easily break 100. The £60k+ I can't argue with but that is only just top 10% Maybe we are looking at different resources? Mine puts 80k/year at the top 2% I'm looking at government stats on a few different websites, 60k and a smidgen is 10%. 80k is top 5, just. Guess there’s not 1 size fits all answer depending how you push the numbers, but it always shocks me how high up the ladder a simple tradesman can be 30k average income in the UK. Wages aren’t going up, inflation is going up, living cost is going up, house prices are through the roof. Services like the NHS and our roads area crumbling And people are more concerned with only boiling half a kettle or putting towels under their door than asking why." You're assuming that anyone interested in energy tips isn't so concerned with what's happening in the UK. And the world. But when people are just trying to keep their homes warm and their kids fed - that's not what is critical for them. It's just staying afloat. | |||
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"Just received letter today saying the rent going up £20 per month what with energy/food Council tax Internet think the total increase is £150 per month have 2 daughters living home so their rent will go up £50 each and I'm getting a 50p per hour pay rise which will b my £50 so shd break even hopefully x" Just a tip, not saying it will work, but shoot them an email saying your happy with the rent you currently pay and would like to keep it there I’ve heard stories of it being accepted and there’s no harm in trying Sometimes they just wanna see if they can put the price up without much of a fight I haggled £50 a month off the rent of my last plane just by asking. You never know! | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert
Just get yourself a tester with an amp clamp on it. Test the amps running through a device when it’s on vs when it’s off
But we're discussing how to save money and buying one of those I wouldn't be it's easier listening to Martin Lewis as he is a expert and neither of us are
Well I’ve done it for you and can confirm, electronic devices don’t use more power when they are off. That’s what “off” means
However it is true you can save money by turning stuff off at the plug instead of leaving on standby
I’d imagine it’s almost unaccountable though but I guess every bit helps "Pal I never said off but left on standby as their is still a electric current passing through a appliance which isn't in use by a human | |||
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert
Just get yourself a tester with an amp clamp on it. Test the amps running through a device when it’s on vs when it’s off
But we're discussing how to save money and buying one of those I wouldn't be it's easier listening to Martin Lewis as he is a expert and neither of us are
Well I’ve done it for you and can confirm, electronic devices don’t use more power when they are off. That’s what “off” means
However it is true you can save money by turning stuff off at the plug instead of leaving on standby
I’d imagine it’s almost unaccountable though but I guess every bit helps
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert
Just get yourself a tester with an amp clamp on it. Test the amps running through a device when it’s on vs when it’s off
But we're discussing how to save money and buying one of those I wouldn't be it's easier listening to Martin Lewis as he is a expert and neither of us are
Well I’ve done it for you and can confirm, electronic devices don’t use more power when they are off. That’s what “off” means
However it is true you can save money by turning stuff off at the plug instead of leaving on standby
I’d imagine it’s almost unaccountable though but I guess every bit helps
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"Not many realize that leaving appliances on standby use more electricity than actually using them which also adds to further damage even worse could lead to fire. So unplug besides the obvious fridge at night is your saving hours but if you're not in the house same applies As an electrician, no it doesn’t Would you care to demonstrate I'm not a electrician but was advised by Martin Lewis money saving expert
Just get yourself a tester with an amp clamp on it. Test the amps running through a device when it’s on vs when it’s off
But we're discussing how to save money and buying one of those I wouldn't be it's easier listening to Martin Lewis as he is a expert and neither of us are
Well I’ve done it for you and can confirm, electronic devices don’t use more power when they are off. That’s what “off” means
However it is true you can save money by turning stuff off at the plug instead of leaving on standby
I’d imagine it’s almost unaccountable though but I guess every bit helps
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It really is negligible. If you have a smart meter you can check it for yourself. But every penny doesn't count"The whole "turn it off" thing is made to seem much bigger than it is. Yes, something on standby uses power, it would be idiotic to assume otherwise. It would also be idiotic to think that turning it off uses more power in standby than when it's in active mode. In what universe does that even make sense except maybe for a very few small number of niche items, and even then questionable. Will turning off instead of standby save you money? Yes it would, you very likely won't notice how much overall though. You would also save more money by not using it at all or not using the device in active mode ever but keeping it in standby. That would be very noticeable. Standby vs off you will be saving in the areas of 60p per device (different for every device, some more some less) by switching off a year. So ~60p x number of devices. | |||
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"Just received letter today saying the rent going up £20 per month what with energy/food Council tax Internet think the total increase is £150 per month have 2 daughters living home so their rent will go up £50 each and I'm getting a 50p per hour pay rise which will b my £50 so shd break even hopefully x Just a tip, not saying it will work, but shoot them an email saying your happy with the rent you currently pay and would like to keep it there I’ve heard stories of it being accepted and there’s no harm in trying Sometimes they just wanna see if they can put the price up without much of a fight I haggled £50 a month off the rent of my last plane just by asking. You never know! " It's council so they wouldn't that said it's reasonable rent compared to private rent x | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet" Agreed. Nice to see MPs getting a £2000 payrise | |||
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"We use a little fan heater to warm whatever room we’re in. I walk to the shops much more than I used to. Cold wash all out laundry, and air it outdoors whenever weather allows. I try to drive more economically, and a quieter times in the day to encounter less congestion. I batch cook using slow cookers. And heat with microwave. Rarely cook on a gas hob now. Heating has been replaced with clothing layers. Shower temp’ turned right down. Total savings may not amount to much, but it might mean we all get to eat instead of me having to skip eating so I can ensure the women of my house do. " Use an oil filled radiator instead of the fan heater. It's more economical because it retains warmth, continuing to heat the room after you have turned it off. | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet Agreed. Nice to see MPs getting a £2000 payrise "It's been recommended. Nothing to do with the MPs and I expect they will turn it down. | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet Agreed. Nice to see MPs getting a £2000 payrise "Indeed  | |||
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"For the slow cooker people, are these çheaper to cook with than giving everything a quick boil up on the (gas) stove. I do lots of batch cooking anyway just wondering the best way to do it. " Slow cookers are much more economical because more heat is used instead of wasted. Especially on a gas hob | |||
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"For the slow cooker people, are these çheaper to cook with than giving everything a quick boil up on the (gas) stove. I do lots of batch cooking anyway just wondering the best way to do it. " Yes and no depending on what you are cooking. Example I could put a joint in a slow cooker for 6/8!hours and I’d save a lot more energy than putting it in my fan oven for 4 hours. Apparently an average slow cooker uses 135-160w, where as a standard oven is 2500w. So simply put, apparently ‘ You'd need to use your 160W slow cooker for around 15 hours and 42 minutes to match just one hour with your electric oven’ Even an air fryer oven that I have may use the same energy as an oven but, I don’t need to warm it up, it’s smaller than an oven, it cooks food quicker, so saving energy costs that way. I tend to steam / cook veg in a microwave as again quicker and more cost effective than on the hob. | |||
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"I'm buying a load of rechargeable batteries, and ten hamster wheels, 1000 hamsters and get them at work constantly charging batteries. You know reading all this stuff on here makes me think perhaps the TV show "The Good Life" was way ahead of it's time. Also I think perhaps even the most hardened Tory fan might be thinking it's time for a change?" Evidently not | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet" That'll definitely help. It's a well k own fact that nothing helps those in trouble or sticks it to 'the man' like impotent ranting. | |||
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"I suggest body heat to save on the heating. Orgies are probably the best." This is some sensible, practical advice. Get your lifestyle friends over and keep warm the best way | |||
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"Would have thought microwaves would always be the cheapest cooking method, though who knows." They’re about 50% efficient Although that’s not always a straight forward answer because portion size matters. Air fryers are pretty great. They’re just very small fan ovens | |||
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"Personally I think it’s disgusting that we are all coming up with tips and trucks to survive in this world that was created by years of Tory scum hollowing out this country for every penny it has Do you think those at the top are pinching pennies? Do you sometimes wonder if this stiff upper lip attitude the brits have has somehow landed us in the situation we’re in now? Do you think saving harder and harder, and learning how to be happy with less and less is going to lead to a world you want to see your kids grow up in? “Take your bread, turn off your tv, lower your heating, shut up and be happy” - some millionaire banker on his private jet Agreed. Nice to see MPs getting a £2000 payrise "I’d actually be ok with the rise if they did a decent job | |||
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"Perhaps we can share nuggets of wisdom on how to save money on heating and electricity without forking out on other things preparing for the up and coming billageddon. Bathe with your partner or have an alarm set to say 5 mins for shower's. Change lightbulbs to low energy efficient one's. We have two spare quilts that we keep behind the sofa and wrap up in when watching the tellybox. I'm never going to complain about my hot flushes again because they mean that I don't need to put the heating on. My kids always did call me 'the radiator'
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"Would have thought microwaves would always be the cheapest cooking method, though who knows. They’re about 50% efficient Although that’s not always a straight forward answer because portion size matters. Air fryers are pretty great. They’re just very small fan ovens " So if you had teenagers who are always cooking some chips etc in the oven - would this be a good alternative? I've never looked at air fryers but my kids are constantly turning the oven on. | |||
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"I brought a Hive smart energy system including smart TRV’s, now I only heat the rooms that I need to and control it via an app. My energy consumption has dropped but obviously the energy price increases have hit me like everyone else. No offence, but you've spent money on kit to do something that you can easily do manually for no cost. You've spent more money than you will save and unfortunately that will be the same for a lot of people. With respect you’re wrong. I can now control all rads including inaccessible ones via an app. My energy consumption has reduced by around 20% so over a couple of years the system will have paid for itself. Well no, I'm not. You've paid money to make things easier. Congrats that it's worked for you but you could have manually turned them down. In your opinion, you don’t know anything about my house and how inaccessible some of the rads are. It’s a pain to get to them! A small investment is reaping rewards via lower consumption whether that’s via technology or via your hands." When does turning radiators off become efficient? If I have 10 rads, is turning 1 rad off going to make any difference? The boiler still needs to heat to the same level for 1 radiator or 10? I guess it could take a shorter amount of time to heat 1 but would it be better to heat all radiators and have the heating on less time, so it is warm all over the house? I've confused myself... | |||
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"I brought a Hive smart energy system including smart TRV’s, now I only heat the rooms that I need to and control it via an app. My energy consumption has dropped but obviously the energy price increases have hit me like everyone else. No offence, but you've spent money on kit to do something that you can easily do manually for no cost. You've spent more money than you will save and unfortunately that will be the same for a lot of people. With respect you’re wrong. I can now control all rads including inaccessible ones via an app. My energy consumption has reduced by around 20% so over a couple of years the system will have paid for itself. Well no, I'm not. You've paid money to make things easier. Congrats that it's worked for you but you could have manually turned them down. In your opinion, you don’t know anything about my house and how inaccessible some of the rads are. It’s a pain to get to them! A small investment is reaping rewards via lower consumption whether that’s via technology or via your hands. When does turning radiators off become efficient? If I have 10 rads, is turning 1 rad off going to make any difference? The boiler still needs to heat to the same level for 1 radiator or 10? I guess it could take a shorter amount of time to heat 1 but would it be better to heat all radiators and have the heating on less time, so it is warm all over the house? I've confused myself... "Why warm a room you are not in or using? 1 rad off out of 10 is 10% less. It won't be as simple as that, rad size and efficiency and temp will all play a part but it's a good enough ball park. | |||
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"Would have thought microwaves would always be the cheapest cooking method, though who knows. They’re about 50% efficient Although that’s not always a straight forward answer because portion size matters. Air fryers are pretty great. They’re just very small fan ovens So if you had teenagers who are always cooking some chips etc in the oven - would this be a good alternative? I've never looked at air fryers but my kids are constantly turning the oven on. Absolutely!! Huge difference Love my air fryer Same, I haven’t used my oven since I got mine " Wow. I must admit I have never looked at one. Hadn't thought about them for that purpose. Off to Google! | |||
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1 rad off out of 10 is 10% less. It won't be as simple as that, rad size and efficiency and temp will all play a part but it's a good enough ball park."That is what I'm thinking, it isn't as simple as turning off 1 radiator out of 10 and saving 10% on energy bills. As you said, radiator efficiency, size etc will all play a part. If you open a door to a room that isn't being heated, how does that impact the heat of the house and how long the boiler needs to stay on. I think the idea of turning a thing off like a radiator is automatically going to save you x, may not really be the case all the time. | |||
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"Would have thought microwaves would always be the cheapest cooking method, though who knows. They’re about 50% efficient Although that’s not always a straight forward answer because portion size matters. Air fryers are pretty great. They’re just very small fan ovens So if you had teenagers who are always cooking some chips etc in the oven - would this be a good alternative? I've never looked at air fryers but my kids are constantly turning the oven on. Absolutely!! Huge difference Love my air fryer Same, I haven’t used my oven since I got mine Going to sound simple now, but what kind of things except chips can you cook in it? " It depends which one you get but you can cook chicken, steaks, etc. I’ve one with shelves and a rotisserie spit, so literally anything I used to put in the oven I can put in the air fryer. I’ve even boiled an egg in it, without needing water. | |||
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"“I don’t have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It’s a depression. Everybody’s out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel’s worth. Banks are going bust. Shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there’s nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there’s no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that’s the way it’s supposed to be. We know things are bad – worse than bad. They’re crazy. It’s like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don’t go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is: ‘Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won’t say anything. Just leave us alone.’ Well, I’m not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get MAD! I don’t want you to protest. I don’t want you to riot – I don’t want you to write to your congressman, because I wouldn’t know what to tell you to write. I don’t know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you’ve got to get mad. (shouting) You’ve got to say: ‘I’m a human being, god-dammit! My life has value!’ You've been watching too many American films bud! " Well it’s a quote from an American film so | |||
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"Would have thought microwaves would always be the cheapest cooking method, though who knows. They’re about 50% efficient Although that’s not always a straight forward answer because portion size matters. Air fryers are pretty great. They’re just very small fan ovens So if you had teenagers who are always cooking some chips etc in the oven - would this be a good alternative? I've never looked at air fryers but my kids are constantly turning the oven on. Absolutely!! Huge difference Love my air fryer Same, I haven’t used my oven since I got mine Going to sound simple now, but what kind of things except chips can you cook in it? Anything you can cook in an oven It’s just a case of will it fit. If it fits, I use my air fryer If it doesn’t, I use the oven So I cook frozen stuff, chips, chicken, burgers, I reheat pizza, loads of stuff Just think of it as a mini oven thaf preheats in like 2 minutes " And they use a lot less energy than a standard fan oven? I only just decluttered and got rid of the bread maker and the slow cooker as I never used them. | |||
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"Would have thought microwaves would always be the cheapest cooking method, though who knows. They’re about 50% efficient Although that’s not always a straight forward answer because portion size matters. Air fryers are pretty great. They’re just very small fan ovens So if you had teenagers who are always cooking some chips etc in the oven - would this be a good alternative? I've never looked at air fryers but my kids are constantly turning the oven on. Absolutely!! Huge difference Love my air fryer Same, I haven’t used my oven since I got mine Going to sound simple now, but what kind of things except chips can you cook in it? Anything you can cook in an oven It’s just a case of will it fit. If it fits, I use my air fryer If it doesn’t, I use the oven So I cook frozen stuff, chips, chicken, burgers, I reheat pizza, loads of stuff Just think of it as a mini oven thaf preheats in like 2 minutes And they use a lot less energy than a standard fan oven? I only just decluttered and got rid of the bread maker and the slow cooker as I never used them. " It’s not that they use less, it’s that by being so small and fast you use less energy To cook in the oven you have to heat the entire oven. That’s why they normally saying 5-10 mins pre heating Air fryers are 1/10 the size. So it’s much less preheating Even though an oven and a good air fryer will run around 2-3kW - the air fryer is more efficient | |||
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"Would have thought microwaves would always be the cheapest cooking method, though who knows. They’re about 50% efficient Although that’s not always a straight forward answer because portion size matters. Air fryers are pretty great. They’re just very small fan ovens So if you had teenagers who are always cooking some chips etc in the oven - would this be a good alternative? I've never looked at air fryers but my kids are constantly turning the oven on. Absolutely!! Huge difference Love my air fryer Same, I haven’t used my oven since I got mine Going to sound simple now, but what kind of things except chips can you cook in it? It depends which one you get but you can cook chicken, steaks, etc. I’ve one with shelves and a rotisserie spit, so literally anything I used to put in the oven I can put in the air fryer. I’ve even boiled an egg in it, without needing water. " Ok that's interesting, going to look into it now. | |||
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"Would have thought microwaves would always be the cheapest cooking method, though who knows. They’re about 50% efficient Although that’s not always a straight forward answer because portion size matters. Air fryers are pretty great. They’re just very small fan ovens So if you had teenagers who are always cooking some chips etc in the oven - would this be a good alternative? I've never looked at air fryers but my kids are constantly turning the oven on. Absolutely!! Huge difference Love my air fryer Same, I haven’t used my oven since I got mine Going to sound simple now, but what kind of things except chips can you cook in it? Anything you can cook in an oven It’s just a case of will it fit. If it fits, I use my air fryer If it doesn’t, I use the oven So I cook frozen stuff, chips, chicken, burgers, I reheat pizza, loads of stuff Just think of it as a mini oven thaf preheats in like 2 minutes " I'm now convinced, thank you | |||
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"I suggest body heat to save on the heating. Orgies are probably the best." This works for me. Can host! | |||
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"Cycle, don't drive. Ditch the gym membership and work out at home. Read a book rather than use an electronic medium. Play chess/backgammon/cards/ etc. Definitely drop the Sky subscription! Share books rather than buy them. Ditch the takeaways and cook at home. Cook as much as you need, not more. (Unless batch cooking, which is a good idea too). Cook fresh meals rather than ready mades. Take a packed lunch rather than eat in the works canteen. Go to the pub less, invite friends around to drink at home. Make your own beer/wine. Don't upgrade to the latest phone, keep your old one on a cheap contract. Use more blankets, turn the thermostat down a notch. Use a hot water bottle on the settee and in bed. Buy quality second hand clothes. Only boil enough water for what you need. Don't buy coffee out, make your own. (See above for 'filling the kettle just enough' tip). Ensure you claim all the tax benefits you are entitled to. Get elected as a Tory MP and receive thousands in donations from the Russians. (You might also get a few lucrative contracts in an industry in which you have no experience. You don't even need to own the fucking ferry!). There are lots you can do to reduce your bills. Gbat " If you cook more than you need you can freeze it it's an easy solution | |||
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"Cycle, don't drive. Ditch the gym membership and work out at home. Read a book rather than use an electronic medium. Play chess/backgammon/cards/ etc. Definitely drop the Sky subscription! Share books rather than buy them. Ditch the takeaways and cook at home. Cook as much as you need, not more. (Unless batch cooking, which is a good idea too). Cook fresh meals rather than ready mades. Take a packed lunch rather than eat in the works canteen. Go to the pub less, invite friends around to drink at home. Make your own beer/wine. Don't upgrade to the latest phone, keep your old one on a cheap contract. Use more blankets, turn the thermostat down a notch. Use a hot water bottle on the settee and in bed. Buy quality second hand clothes. Only boil enough water for what you need. Don't buy coffee out, make your own. (See above for 'filling the kettle just enough' tip). Ensure you claim all the tax benefits you are entitled to. Get elected as a Tory MP and receive thousands in donations from the Russians. (You might also get a few lucrative contracts in an industry in which you have no experience. You don't even need to own the fucking ferry!). There are lots you can do to reduce your bills. Gbat " Apart from the tory mp bit I already do all of that, there is not a lot left to shave off sometimes. 
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"If you cook more than you need you can freeze it it's an easy solution" See above re batch cooking. Deliberately cooking more and freezing it is good, but cooking too much so that odd bits are left over is less sensible. Gbat | |||
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"Apart from the tory mp bit I already do all of that, there is not a lot left to shave off sometimes. How does one go about becoming an mp....." Either join a political party and work your way up the pecking order, or get famous and stand as an independent. You'll need to say a lot more than you have in your profile though! (Although your profile pics would do an excellent job as your publicity pics!). Seriously though, I hope you're doing okay? Gbat | |||
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"Apart from the tory mp bit I already do all of that, there is not a lot left to shave off sometimes. How does one go about becoming an mp..... Either join a political party and work your way up the pecking order, or get famous and stand as an independent. You'll need to say a lot more than you have in your profile though! (Although your profile pics would do an excellent job as your publicity pics!). Seriously though, I hope you're doing okay? Gbat " I could do excellent waffling and never answering a question straight im sure | |||
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"A better example Cooking chips in the oven is like boiling the whole kettle for a cup of tea. It’s a lot of wasted energy The air fryer is like boiling only what you need, 1 mugs worth " Yes! AF is much more economical, especially if you're on your own. | |||
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"I just got a 250 refund from my energy supplier because I was massively in credit after they kept putting my DD up. I have a new boiler with a thermostat, so I think that's helping keeping the cost of heating down. Also a smart meter, I've started going to bed when it gets pasta certain amount. Check and see if you qualify for the warm home scheme, that's 140 quid towards your energy bill. I scan all my receipts to apps to earn money/Amazon vouchers. I buy cat food in bulk, usually from zooplus as it works out cheaper. " Mimi is now officially the Martin Lewis of fab | |||
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"A better example Cooking chips in the oven is like boiling the whole kettle for a cup of tea. It’s a lot of wasted energy The air fryer is like boiling only what you need, 1 mugs worth Yes! AF is much more economical, especially if you're on your own." I have four teens. I'm looking at 6 litre air fryers. | |||
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"I just got a 250 refund from my energy supplier because I was massively in credit after they kept putting my DD up. I have a new boiler with a thermostat, so I think that's helping keeping the cost of heating down. Also a smart meter, I've started going to bed when it gets pasta certain amount. Check and see if you qualify for the warm home scheme, that's 140 quid towards your energy bill. I scan all my receipts to apps to earn money/Amazon vouchers. I buy cat food in bulk, usually from zooplus as it works out cheaper. Mimi is now officially the Martin Lewis of fab " Money Saving Mimi | |||
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"Check how much money you waste in unnecessary subscriptions & kill as many as possible. Compared to 20 years ago do we really need Spotify, Amazon Prime, Netflix, Disney Plus, Peloton & can you cut down your Sky package to more basic. We never used to pay out on ANY of the above & each one has sneaked up monthly outgoings because we think we must have them for our fake lifestyles" I don't have any of them. I doubt anyone on a thread like this is going to be spending £100 a month on that stuff. | |||
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"Check how much money you waste in unnecessary subscriptions & kill as many as possible. Compared to 20 years ago do we really need Spotify, Amazon Prime, Netflix, Disney Plus, Peloton & can you cut down your Sky package to more basic. We never used to pay out on ANY of the above & each one has sneaked up monthly outgoings because we think we must have them for our fake lifestyles I don't have any of them. I doubt anyone on a thread like this is going to be spending £100 a month on that stuff. " Apart from Sky on a basic package neither do I, but I suspect many people consider these essential & they will have crept up by stealth. Dumping all or just one is a saving that can be put towards other bills. As a single dad looking after 2 kids 75% of the time I have to be very keen on keeping my bills low & trimmed outgoings heavily after my divorce to keep my house & drag the bank balance up. It's now worrying after 3 years how long my efforts will last before the savings I made are back up to previous levels cos of that bastard Putin. | |||
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"Check how much money you waste in unnecessary subscriptions & kill as many as possible. Compared to 20 years ago do we really need Spotify, Amazon Prime, Netflix, Disney Plus, Peloton & can you cut down your Sky package to more basic. We never used to pay out on ANY of the above & each one has sneaked up monthly outgoings because we think we must have them for our fake lifestyles" Don't have it or have a sky subscription my sky expired back in 2007 I watch my movies via YouTube or download free apps | |||
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"Buy a wood burner and add a small chimney. Wood is cheaper than gas again. Lots of people have done this now, they only use heating at morning get up and to warm bedrooms before bedtime." How much money would that cost to do?  | |||
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"Buy a wood burner and add a small chimney. Wood is cheaper than gas again. Lots of people have done this now, they only use heating at morning get up and to warm bedrooms before bedtime. How much money would that cost to do? "Burner, installation, flue? Not "cheap", 4 figures at least | |||
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"Buy a wood burner and add a small chimney. Wood is cheaper than gas again. Lots of people have done this now, they only use heating at morning get up and to warm bedrooms before bedtime. How much money would that cost to do? "Depends on the house lay out but trust me, it’s not as expensive as you think to install one The problem is the extras if you want to sell. Got to have a carbon monoxide monitor in the room to comply with electrical regs and there might be other regs I’m unaware of for burners | |||
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"Buy a wood burner and add a small chimney. Wood is cheaper than gas again. Lots of people have done this now, they only use heating at morning get up and to warm bedrooms before bedtime." I bought a place that has this plus a wood burning aga that also does the central heating and hot water. Obviously it came with the cottage so I don’t know the purchase and installation costs, but £80 worth of wood and £50 of coal will see me through the winter. Get used to getting up to add wood to the fire all evening though, you use up your own energy doing that | |||
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"Buy a wood burner and add a small chimney. Wood is cheaper than gas again. Lots of people have done this now, they only use heating at morning get up and to warm bedrooms before bedtime. How much money would that cost to do?
Burner, installation, flue? Not "cheap", 4 figures at least"But adds to the value of the house, and gives you another source of energy for heating your house? ...maybe a bonus depending what future holds | |||
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"Buy a wood burner and add a small chimney. Wood is cheaper than gas again. Lots of people have done this now, they only use heating at morning get up and to warm bedrooms before bedtime. How much money would that cost to do?
Burner, installation, flue? Not "cheap", 4 figures at least
But adds to the value of the house, and gives you another source of energy for heating your house? ...maybe a bonus depending what future holds "Wouldn't have thought it would add value to the house. | |||
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"Buy a wood burner and add a small chimney. Wood is cheaper than gas again. Lots of people have done this now, they only use heating at morning get up and to warm bedrooms before bedtime. How much money would that cost to do?
Burner, installation, flue? Not "cheap", 4 figures at least
But adds to the value of the house, and gives you another source of energy for heating your house? ...maybe a bonus depending what future holds "Depends if people are in a position to fund it. For many savings have been depleted during two years of covid. It's not an option for me, I don't have the space to store the wood. | |||
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