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By *arlo82 OP Couple
over a year ago

the gym and random places

Russian president Vladimir Putin has authorised a "special military operation" in eastern Ukraine

Boris Johnson has released the following statement:

I am appalled by the horrific events in Ukraine and I have spoken to President Zelenskyy to discuss next steps.

President Putin has chosen a path of bloodshed and destruction by launching this unprovoked attack on Ukraine.

Was this mornings press release.... thoughts? Queries? How will this change the world?

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

We didn't really do much over Crimea.

Plus, I don't trust NATO any more than I trust Putin. Western expansionism is a genuine concern.

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By *reyja78TV/TS
over a year ago

Northampton

"We didn't really do much over Crimea.

Plus, I don't trust NATO any more than I trust Putin. Western expansionism is a genuine concern. "

This is very true

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By *arlo82 OP Couple
over a year ago

the gym and random places

"We didn't really do much over Crimea.

Plus, I don't trust NATO any more than I trust Putin. Western expansionism is a genuine concern. "

No in 2014 we didn't, however 8 years on is this something that needs revisited? He has broken peace accords, Ukraine yes was once part of the Soviet Republic but it has as a country done so for years.

I'm sure the last time there were something like 14,000 deaths... do we really need to see more bloodshed?

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By *arlo82 OP Couple
over a year ago

the gym and random places

"We didn't really do much over Crimea.

Plus, I don't trust NATO any more than I trust Putin. Western expansionism is a genuine concern. "

Plus I can't see the Ukraine joining NATO for quite some time....if ever

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By *x cplCouple
over a year ago

North of Oxford

Russia is fully invading ukraine, he has launched missile strikes on airfields and military bases through out ukraine including the capitol kiev, odessa, Sumi, khakis, Maruiopol, nikoleav he needs to be stopped. Russia needs to be shown that the world won't tolerate such aggression.

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By *tophateMan
over a year ago

ireland

And nato and USA promised not to move east to Russia borders and it has

But everyone blames Russia

So USA who has 145 bases around the world and Russian only one in Syria

Who invading the world ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And nato and USA promised not to move east to Russia borders and it has

But everyone blames Russia

So USA who has 145 bases around the world and Russian only one in Syria

Who invading the world ??? "

Agreed. Most of the issues in the world can be traced back to the Wests involvement in foreign politics; especially in the Middle East, with Iran being one such example

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

And they don't kick up a fuss when Israel 'invades' more of Palestine.

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By *WDomMan
over a year ago

Taunton

"And nato and USA promised not to move east to Russia borders "

No it didn’t. This is just factually incorrect.

There are no agreements to this.

Even Gorbachev says such a promise was never made.

And sovereign countries choosing to join a defensive pact primarily because they are scared of Russian interference and it is the only way to secure their independence. That is hardly invading.

The consequences of not joining Nato are being made clear to all those former Warsaw pact nations by the events in Ukraine today.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

This may make me really ignorant but I haven't taken in anything so far about what's going on.

I suppose now may be the time to pay attention.

All it makes me feel is depressed and powerless. And really very sad for those displaced and those who will die and those come into harms way.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Thats it. Its all over.

Good luck all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never know if hes name is said as p-you-tin or poo-tin based on how he acts id go with poo why people cant just do war like in the beginning of troy il never know would save a lot of lives maybe an arm wrestle between leaders

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Thoughts with the people of Ukraine.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

"Thoughts with the people of Ukraine.

Yep, they must be bloody terrified

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

Having been to Kiev I feel so sorry for those people there now

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Thoughts with the people of Ukraine.

Yep, they must be bloody terrified

They really must. I can’t even imagine going through that. My kids, family, friends at risk. Makes me feel physically sick. I hope we never have that feeling.

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By *ingdangTV/TS
over a year ago

manchester

People self hating and self loathing. Without the US and nato, there will be many wars started by countries like Russia and China. Yet the Americans and English hate themselves like some of the people in this post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He'll go into Ukraine, take the bits he wants under the guise of "denazification" you know for the good of the world. While at the same time showing off his might.

Tens of thousands will die for this show of strength.

We'll sanction all the Russian goods we all buy.....you know.....all that caviar and vodka (how will they cope). Then we'll twig that they have a huge amount of gas and oil that we need. We'll say "Vlad, you're a very very naughty boy. We don't condone what you've done in the Ukraine. But can we have some oil please......ooooh yes you do look manly riding that horse....anyway, about that oil"

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By *eachcplCouple
over a year ago

blackpool/preston/normandy france

The consequences of this invasion are potentially catastrophic. If the other world leaders who have been condemning Putin decide to react with military force, then this is world war 3. We should all be very concerned as Putin appears to have become unhinged. He will deploy nuclear weapons against anyone who attacks Russia without a second thought. This is a repeat of what started ww2. Invasion of a sovereign state. The world must do something very quickly to remove Putin.

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Wish we had normal people in charge around the world. Would be a much better place.

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

"The consequences of this invasion are potentially catastrophic. If the other world leaders who have been condemning Putin decide to react with military force, then this is world war 3. We should all be very concerned as Putin appears to have become unhinged. He will deploy nuclear weapons against anyone who attacks Russia without a second thought. This is a repeat of what started ww2. Invasion of a sovereign state. The world must do something very quickly to remove Putin. "

He has seriously lost the plot

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted. "

Not funny

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By *eachcplCouple
over a year ago

blackpool/preston/normandy france

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny"

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wish we had normal people in charge around the world. Would be a much better place."

That's exactly the problem, we DO have normal people in charge. People really are not nice by default, and rarely by choice.

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By *arlo82 OP Couple
over a year ago

the gym and random places

"Thoughts with the people of Ukraine.

Most definitely

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening "

While I can't and won't say what the intent behind his joke is, dark humour and jokes are a coping mechanism, to make a joke out of war is not frightening, it is a valid human response and no less than being appalled by war is.

There is an actual (fairly common) reaction of laughing at death. It is almost involuntary that when death is talked about the response is to laugh. It's not malicious or anything like that but the mind needing to release the tension and stress of the subject.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He has seriously lost the plot"

Agreed. He's obsessed with rebuilding the Soviet Union and lost any measure of self control he might have had previously.

Don't forget about China, they can use this distraction to push their own agenda, particularly against the US. Or ally with Russia if NATO get serious about military retaliation. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening "

To be fair we don't know he's not worried. A bit of dark humour is no bad thing. I laughed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Russian president Vladimir Putin has authorised a "special military operation" in eastern Ukraine

Boris Johnson has released the following statement:

I am appalled by the horrific events in Ukraine and I have spoken to President Zelenskyy to discuss next steps.

President Putin has chosen a path of bloodshed and destruction by launching this unprovoked attack on Ukraine.

Was this mornings press release.... thoughts? Queries? How will this change the world?"

How do you deal with a gangster armed with nukes? I haven't got the first clue how this will unfold, I just know how I hope it doesn't.

Our thoughts are with the poor Ukrainian citizens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny"

You’re also worried about the production of chicken Kiev’s slowing?

Agreed, it wouldn’t be amusing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening "

We’ll talk more about this once you have been to war.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening

To be fair we don't know he's not worried. A bit of dark humour is no bad thing. I laughed. "

I laughed too and it was my joke.

I often forget that this is a very serious humourless site and not a sex site.

How silly of me.

Also, considering I am the most likely to be deployed should full scale war break out from everybody commenting on this thread, I’ll most likely continue to make jokes while they hide in their bath tubs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening

To be fair we don't know he's not worried. A bit of dark humour is no bad thing. I laughed.

I laughed too and it was my joke.

I often forget that this is a very serious humourless site and not a sex site.

How silly of me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just like in football there should be a fit and proper owners check before people can try run a country this guy gets on my last nerv thinking hes ronnie rockhard notice he waited until trump had gone before doing this the one president as nuts as he is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I genuinely feel sorry for them I Ukrain to be honest. Unprovoked !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening

To be fair we don't know he's not worried. A bit of dark humour is no bad thing. I laughed.

I laughed too and it was my joke.

I often forget that this is a very serious humourless site and not a sex site.

How silly of me.

That only worked when the tubs were metal. This plastic and fibreglass stuff won't be much use!

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening

To be fair we don't know he's not worried. A bit of dark humour is no bad thing. I laughed.

I laughed too and it was my joke.

I often forget that this is a very serious humourless site and not a sex site.

How silly of me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening

To be fair we don't know he's not worried. A bit of dark humour is no bad thing. I laughed.

I laughed too and it was my joke.

I often forget that this is a very serious humourless site and not a sex site.

How silly of me.

That only worked when the tubs were metal. This plastic and fibreglass stuff won't be much use!"

Solid point.

Guess they’ll all die.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just like in football there should be a fit and proper owners check before people can try run a country this guy gets on my last nerv thinking hes ronnie rockhard notice he waited until trump had gone before doing this the one president as nuts as he is "

That wouldn’t be much use either.

The FA can’t even get that right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He has seriously lost the plot

Agreed. He's obsessed with rebuilding the Soviet Union and lost any measure of self control he might have had previously.

Don't forget about China, they can use this distraction to push their own agenda, particularly against the US. Or ally with Russia if NATO get serious about military retaliation. Xx "

I am sure China are thinking 'would this be a good time to take Taiwan?'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening

To be fair we don't know he's not worried. A bit of dark humour is no bad thing. I laughed.

I laughed too and it was my joke.

I often forget that this is a very serious humourless site and not a sex site.

How silly of me.

That only worked when the tubs were metal. This plastic and fibreglass stuff won't be much use!

Solid point.

Guess they’ll all die."

Makes you feel part of a team, doesn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He has seriously lost the plot

Agreed. He's obsessed with rebuilding the Soviet Union and lost any measure of self control he might have had previously.

Don't forget about China, they can use this distraction to push their own agenda, particularly against the US. Or ally with Russia if NATO get serious about military retaliation. Xx

I am sure China are thinking 'would this be a good time to take Taiwan?'"

Yep xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I said it on another thread, Ukraine already has a lot of street children who are addicted to glue and vulnerable to sexual exploitation. I hate to think many more will end up the same. If the whole country erupts in a war zone then they are genuine refugees I would happy for us to take in, not economic migrants travelling halfway across the world to leech off us

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Boris is going to give an address later, God help us all !

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By *haggydogMan
over a year ago

Brooklands/London

"We didn't really do much over Crimea.

Plus, I don't trust NATO any more than I trust Putin. Western expansionism is a genuine concern. "

This.

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe

Need to take action now take putin out cut head off the snake the snake dies one laser guided bomb up his arse should do it!

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

It's always puzzled me how dictators always seem to want to have a veil of an excuse. In this case it's de-Nazification. In Hitler's case it was a false-flag attack on a German radio station that meant he just had to invade Poland. They never seem to say "we just want to invade and take over". That's what everybody else thinks. Why don't they just say that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's always puzzled me how dictators always seem to want to have a veil of an excuse. In this case it's de-Nazification. In Hitler's case it was a false-flag attack on a German radio station that meant he just had to invade Poland. They never seem to say "we just want to invade and take over". That's what everybody else thinks. Why don't they just say that? "

He's not likely to say 'I want to recreate the Soviet Union' out loud as every other former member would know they are a target.

I think he sees that as his endgame

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope the production of chicken Kiev's isn’t heavily impacted.

Not funny

Have to agree. Anyone not worried by what Putin is doing is delusional. Making a joke of war is frightening

To be fair we don't know he's not worried. A bit of dark humour is no bad thing. I laughed.

I laughed too and it was my joke.

I often forget that this is a very serious humourless site and not a sex site.

How silly of me.

That only worked when the tubs were metal. This plastic and fibreglass stuff won't be much use!

Solid point.

Guess they’ll all die.

Makes you feel part of a team, doesn't it?"

Separate teams.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

He has seriously lost the plot

Agreed. He's obsessed with rebuilding the Soviet Union and lost any measure of self control he might have had previously.

Don't forget about China, they can use this distraction to push their own agenda, particularly against the US. Or ally with Russia if NATO get serious about military retaliation. Xx

I am sure China are thinking 'would this be a good time to take Taiwan?'"

Chinas real goal here is to buy half of Russia when their economy tanks.

They can’t make a move on Taiwan, it’s far too risky and China doesn’t want a war, they want an economical win.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

He's not likely to say 'I want to recreate the Soviet Union' out loud as every other former member would know they are a target.

I think he sees that as his endgame "

I agree, his motivation is reunification which is driven by his ego and with no deterrent in the West the ego is strong.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

I wonder if the well publicised modernisation of Russia nuclear delivery capability and changes in nuclear doctrine is all part of this wider game? Has implying that he has less qualms over the use of nuclear weapons and that Russia is far more capable been a tool of this longer land grab game? Simply because he knows everyone is fearful (rightfully so) of coming to direct blows with Russia and it escalating into a nuclear war. I suspect Putin is of the mind we will avoid direct conflict at all cost and thus will keep testing the waters of what he can get away with bit by bit. I doubt Russia will have problems flogging it's fosil fuels to other states and could emerge stronger with new customer and infrastructure to supply them in time. I don't think there's a lot we can do about it. I would probably aim my efforts in undermining his popular support at home. Although regime change (especially in a nuclear state) carries risks too.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

There have already been reported that civilians have been killed in air strikes and shelling, also bombings on the eastern ukrainian town of chuguiv.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's awful...poor, innocent people being killed...

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"Need to take action now take putin out cut head off the snake the snake dies one laser guided bomb up his arse should do it!"

Assassinating world leaders we don't happen to like has worked out well in about 0% of cases.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Everyone wants to think they're the good guys, even the psycho tyrants

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

I think he’s mentally unstable. Where will he stop

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe

"I think he’s mentally unstable. Where will he stop "

Hes mentally unwell due to him overdoing drugs as he never had covid jabs so ethier that will get him or his own generals will take him out if he gets too desperate

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"I think he’s mentally unstable. Where will he stop "

Even the KGB thought that he was dangerous, all those years ago. You know that feeling you get when, "this is bad I don't think this is a good idea, it might be a tad risky"? Well, that voice in his head is very quiet indeed.

aka no sense of danger. How else do you explain shooting at a nuke powerplant?

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe

Well apparently he has cancer so thats explains his stance plus there's now a massive bounty on his head so only a matter of time till hes taken out if not by someone in his government. And if that happens it might be a wake up call for china and north korea to buck there ideas up or suffer the same fate. Its about time we rid world of these communist regimes enough is enough.

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