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"He's not been sacked, he's been removed as race director and is being given another position within the FIA. Right decision as his position was untenable given the fiasco at the last race. " He has been demoted then. | |||
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"He's not been sacked, he's been removed as race director and is being given another position within the FIA. " Masi himself is said to be waiting for Red Bull to tell him the news. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. " Considering Hamilton was making a second every lap So if there was not a crash would of only been one winner and had nothing to do with tyres | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Considering Hamilton was making a second every lap So if there was not a crash would of only been one winner and had nothing to do with tyres" Correct but there was a crash and red bull where on the correct tyres lol | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Considering Hamilton was making a second every lap So if there was not a crash would of only been one winner and had nothing to do with tyres Correct but there was a crash and red bull where on the correct tyres lol" Man, the Merc call to not come in was not the reason Hamilton lost.   | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport " I’ll bite. Explain? | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Considering Hamilton was making a second every lap So if there was not a crash would of only been one winner and had nothing to do with tyres Correct but there was a crash and red bull where on the correct tyres lol Man, the Merc call to not come in was not the reason Hamilton lost. "yes that was a bad decision not to come in but he just had to stay out to win as was lapping quicker till the crash and would of been over the line by then.Never mind Massi out  | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet." I’d happily still watch it if he wasn’t in it. I enjoy watching Norris, Gasly, Leclerc and lastly George Russel……these guys are the future  | |||
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"Did any of you watch the rest of the season? Admittedly there was faults in the last race but no one can deny that Max deserved to win the championship from his season long performance. Over 50% of laps led through the season etc. He totally deserved it!! Nice to see someone give Mercedes a run for their money too "Yes I did but Lewis was just giving him a head start to see if he could catch him later on.The last race was a farce and had 4 goes to win it | |||
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"Did any of you watch the rest of the season? Admittedly there was faults in the last race but no one can deny that Max deserved to win the championship from his season long performance. Over 50% of laps led through the season etc. He totally deserved it!! Nice to see someone give Mercedes a run for their money too "I mean, points were made here, I can’t lie. But despite of all the laps led and all the consistent performances, in the last few races, specifically the last, Hamilton was better and he actually deserved to win the title decider. Doesn’t matter anyway. What is done cannot be undone. | |||
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"Did any of you watch the rest of the season? Admittedly there was faults in the last race but no one can deny that Max deserved to win the championship from his season long performance. Over 50% of laps led through the season etc. He totally deserved it!! Nice to see someone give Mercedes a run for their money too
Yes I did but Lewis was just giving him a head start to see if he could catch him later on.The last race was a farce and had 4 goes to win it "The right man won the championship the wrong way. Max should of had it wrapped up long before but Silverstone, Baku etc happened | |||
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"Did any of you watch the rest of the season? Admittedly there was faults in the last race but no one can deny that Max deserved to win the championship from his season long performance. Over 50% of laps led through the season etc. He totally deserved it!! Nice to see someone give Mercedes a run for their money too
I mean, points were made here, I can’t lie. But despite of all the laps led and all the consistent performances, in the last few races, specifically the last, Hamilton was better and he actually deserved to win the title decider.
Doesn’t matter anyway. What is done cannot be undone. "Hamilton was brilliant in the last 4 races no one can deny that but it was too late. I agree he deserved to win the decider but he didn’t deserve the championship on his season long performance. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Considering Hamilton was making a second every lap So if there was not a crash would of only been one winner and had nothing to do with tyres Correct but there was a crash and red bull where on the correct tyres lol Man, the Merc call to not come in was not the reason Hamilton lost. "As I see it Merc didn’t change tyres as if the safety car had been managed as per the accepted procedure they would of lost Road position and maybe had back markers between Max and Lewis. But the way the organisers handled it it dropped in Max’s lap and it’s Red bulls good fortune they were in the position to take advantage of it. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. " Not really… if he has applied the rules correctly, he would still have the same job… | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. " Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD." No Merc made the wrong choice on tyres twice. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD. No Merc made the wrong choice on tyres twice. " Would've, could've, should've - if Masi had made the correct decision, as per the rules, Lewis would have won and he would still be RD. It really is that simple. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD. No Merc made the wrong choice on tyres twice. Would've, could've, should've - if Masi had made the correct decision, as per the rules, Lewis would have won and he would still be RD. It really is that simple. " Exactly | |||
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"Mr Masi should of been sacked not just given a change of job. What he did was ruin the race totally. I just hope he got a very large brown envelope from Red Bull "I heard that Masi's new job is Tea Boy - if he actually turns up for his job (whatever that may be) he has absolutely no shame - I really do believe he will walk away quietly. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD. No Merc made the wrong choice on tyres twice. Would've, could've, should've - if Masi had made the correct decision, as per the rules, Lewis would have won and he would still be RD. It really is that simple. " He got the race going again it’s really that simple. That was the best result for F1 The silverstone accident should have been a ban for causing a big crash but he got away with it | |||
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"There was only 3 outcomes to that race after the accident, finish understeer safety car "nobody wanted that" continue the race without moving the back markers.. would have just made it 2 more corners before max took Hamilton as all the cars between them would have been blue flagged, or remove those back markers from the equation to prevent a possible incident... give or take the cars in the way we all wanted a race finish and the only outcome for a race finish would be max leading at that point as red bull took the new tires... 75% of the race fans where happy with the outcome... the rest where shamilton fans" If he had gone with option two which would have been the right decision, not to let the any lapped cars past, Lewis would have kept the lead, because Lewis can leave a big gap between him and safety car then he could have floored it away, remember Max can't overtake the lapped cars before the safety car line so would have been too far away by then to catch Lewis. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD. No Merc made the wrong choice on tyres twice. Would've, could've, should've - if Masi had made the correct decision, as per the rules, Lewis would have won and he would still be RD. It really is that simple. He got the race going again it’s really that simple. That was the best result for F1 The silverstone accident should have been a ban for causing a big crash but he got away with it " You mean ban Max for turning in to Lewis that's a bit harsh I think | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet." Only reason I don't watch it | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it "What is it about his driving you don't like? | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD. No Merc made the wrong choice on tyres twice. Would've, could've, should've - if Masi had made the correct decision, as per the rules, Lewis would have won and he would still be RD. It really is that simple. He got the race going again it’s really that simple. That was the best result for F1 The silverstone accident should have been a ban for causing a big crash but he got away with it You mean ban Max for turning in to Lewis that's a bit harsh I think" He left enough room if lewis was driving at the correct speed to make the corner with the room avl. Sadly he overdrove the corner and would never have made it. It’s the speed involved that’s the problem there is a point where you don’t do stupid stuff. | |||
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"He's not been sacked, he's been removed as race director and is being given another position within the FIA. Right decision as his position was untenable given the fiasco at the last race. He has been demoted then." Has he? I don’t know much about his new role, and whether it is a demotion or not. I can ask a mate if mine who is an f1 engineer, he might be able to explain. Hasn’t been sacked then, like you originally said though? | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. " Totally agree with this | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD. No Merc made the wrong choice on tyres twice. Would've, could've, should've - if Masi had made the correct decision, as per the rules, Lewis would have won and he would still be RD. It really is that simple. He got the race going again it’s really that simple. That was the best result for F1 The silverstone accident should have been a ban for causing a big crash but he got away with it You mean ban Max for turning in to Lewis that's a bit harsh I think He left enough room if lewis was driving at the correct speed to make the corner with the room avl. Sadly he overdrove the corner and would never have made it. It’s the speed involved that’s the problem there is a point where you don’t do stupid stuff. " But Lewis and Leclerc got though the corner together because Leclerc gave the guy on the inside room, Max didn't | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet." Not really true though, is it. F1 is shown all over the world, drivers retire, new drivers emerge. Somehow, people arch the sport despite no longer having Schumacher, Prost, Senna and others. Plenty of exciting drivers coming through, and more likely that that will generate more interest than seeing the same bloke won every year. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Totally agree with this "totally wrong, Tyre choice is based on strategy which is based on the rules | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?"Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning. | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport " I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning. "but that's got nothing to do with Lewis, blame the other teams for designing shit cars. | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning. "Yes I agree I got fed up always watching Hamilton win, always making a scene. Every race Hamilton show. Because he is British people are behind him. So if he was a German driver or a Spanish driver would people be the same. Let’s look at silverstone. The way he celebrated was not called for, for all he knew he could of destroyed someone’s career or caused serious damage. Instead he celebrated as if he had won another championship. I use to respect him but I feel he has just got to big for his boots. | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion "lol loads of normal folk lost their jobs because of Covid what makes Masi special | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion
lol loads of normal folk lost their jobs because of Covid what makes Masi special"That’s my point we shouldn’t be so eager to do this to people in this day an age or try and avoid it if possible. My point is like others he shouldn’t of been fired. I would say this about anyone but because Masi is in the spotlight I’m more vocal about it. | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion
lol loads of normal folk lost their jobs because of Covid what makes Masi special
That’s my point we shouldn’t be so eager to do this to people in this day an age or try and avoid it if possible. My point is like others he shouldn’t of been fired. I would say this about anyone but because Masi is in the spotlight I’m more vocal about it. "His position as race director was untenable, not only because of the last race but numerous decisions over the season that were wrong or questionable. He has shown he is open to influence as well instead of being impartial. 100% right decision he has been removed, Covid or not. | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
but that's got nothing to do with Lewis, blame the other teams for designing shit cars.
"Where did I blame Lewis? Seriously? Show me. I said that the same person or team winning all the time kills interest outside of the supporters of the serial winner. Snooker got boring when Davis won every year. It stayed boring when Hendry won every year. I loved snooker at the time but couldn’t be arsed watching the world final when Hendry was running away with it. F1 was boring when Schumacher was utterly dominant. Tour de France got boring when Indurain won every year and when Armstrong won every year. I thing to do with the winners, or their style, just the sporting spectacle/ interest. Takes way the uncertainty of who is going to win, turn it into a procession, and it gets boring | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
Yes I agree I got fed up always watching Hamilton win, always making a scene. Every race Hamilton show. Because he is British people are behind him. So if he was a German driver or a Spanish driver would people be the same. Let’s look at silverstone. The way he celebrated was not called for, for all he knew he could of destroyed someone’s career or caused serious damage. Instead he celebrated as if he had won another championship. I use to respect him but I feel he has just got to big for his boots. "But the team told him he got out the car he walked away from the crash with bruising, did you want Lewis to send Max flowers | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion
lol loads of normal folk lost their jobs because of Covid what makes Masi special
That’s my point we shouldn’t be so eager to do this to people in this day an age or try and avoid it if possible. My point is like others he shouldn’t of been fired. I would say this about anyone but because Masi is in the spotlight I’m more vocal about it.
His position as race director was untenable, not only because of the last race but numerous decisions over the season that were wrong or questionable. He has shown he is open to influence as well instead of being impartial.
100% right decision he has been removed, Covid or not."Ok but was the right decision in this pandemic era to publicly do what they did. Maybe they should of given him extra help or even moved him across to a different role. When the shoe was in Mercedes favour no one complained. We are in a time when life is precious and we must look after each other. | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
but that's got nothing to do with Lewis, blame the other teams for designing shit cars.
Where did I blame Lewis? Seriously? Show me.
I said that the same person or team winning all the time kills interest outside of the supporters of the serial winner.
Snooker got boring when Davis won every year. It stayed boring when Hendry won every year. I loved snooker at the time but couldn’t be arsed watching the world final when Hendry was running away with it.
F1 was boring when Schumacher was utterly dominant. Tour de France got boring when Indurain won every year and when Armstrong won every year.
I thing to do with the winners, or their style, just the sporting spectacle/ interest. Takes way the uncertainty of who is going to win, turn it into a procession, and it gets boring "Totally like every year from 2014 Mercedes ran away with the competition. It literally got to a point were you knew even before the race started that if a Mercedes was leading come first corner they would win especially if it was Hamilton. | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
but that's got nothing to do with Lewis, blame the other teams for designing shit cars.
Where did I blame Lewis? Seriously? Show me.
I said that the same person or team winning all the time kills interest outside of the supporters of the serial winner.
Snooker got boring when Davis won every year. It stayed boring when Hendry won every year. I loved snooker at the time but couldn’t be arsed watching the world final when Hendry was running away with it.
F1 was boring when Schumacher was utterly dominant. Tour de France got boring when Indurain won every year and when Armstrong won every year.
I thing to do with the winners, or their style, just the sporting spectacle/ interest. Takes way the uncertainty of who is going to win, turn it into a procession, and it gets boring
Totally like every year from 2014 Mercedes ran away with the competition. It literally got to a point were you knew even before the race started that if a Mercedes was leading come first corner they would win especially if it was Hamilton."Several seasons I tuned in to watch the first race of the year, it was a procession so I didn’t waste any more time watching further “races”. | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
Yes I agree I got fed up always watching Hamilton win, always making a scene. Every race Hamilton show. Because he is British people are behind him. So if he was a German driver or a Spanish driver would people be the same. Let’s look at silverstone. The way he celebrated was not called for, for all he knew he could of destroyed someone’s career or caused serious damage. Instead he celebrated as if he had won another championship. I use to respect him but I feel he has just got to big for his boots.
But the team told him he got out the car he walked away from the crash with bruising, did you want Lewis to send Max flowers"But as a person you could of thought maybe it’s best if I check on that driver personally. Look at when niki Lauda car was on fire and guy edwards stopped his car and pulled him from it, forgetting about the race he was in. I’m sure if the roles were reversed and Hamilton had crashed you would have a difference of opinion | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
but that's got nothing to do with Lewis, blame the other teams for designing shit cars.
Where did I blame Lewis? Seriously? Show me.
I said that the same person or team winning all the time kills interest outside of the supporters of the serial winner.
Snooker got boring when Davis won every year. It stayed boring when Hendry won every year. I loved snooker at the time but couldn’t be arsed watching the world final when Hendry was running away with it.
F1 was boring when Schumacher was utterly dominant. Tour de France got boring when Indurain won every year and when Armstrong won every year.
I thing to do with the winners, or their style, just the sporting spectacle/ interest. Takes way the uncertainty of who is going to win, turn it into a procession, and it gets boring
Totally like every year from 2014 Mercedes ran away with the competition. It literally got to a point were you knew even before the race started that if a Mercedes was leading come first corner they would win especially if it was Hamilton.
Several seasons I tuned in to watch the first race of the year, it was a procession so I didn’t waste any more time watching further “races”.
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
but that's got nothing to do with Lewis, blame the other teams for designing shit cars.
Where did I blame Lewis? Seriously? Show me.
I said that the same person or team winning all the time kills interest outside of the supporters of the serial winner.
Snooker got boring when Davis won every year. It stayed boring when Hendry won every year. I loved snooker at the time but couldn’t be arsed watching the world final when Hendry was running away with it.
F1 was boring when Schumacher was utterly dominant. Tour de France got boring when Indurain won every year and when Armstrong won every year.
I thing to do with the winners, or their style, just the sporting spectacle/ interest. Takes way the uncertainty of who is going to win, turn it into a procession, and it gets boring
Totally like every year from 2014 Mercedes ran away with the competition. It literally got to a point were you knew even before the race started that if a Mercedes was leading come first corner they would win especially if it was Hamilton.
Several seasons I tuned in to watch the first race of the year, it was a procession so I didn’t waste any more time watching further “races”.
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
but that's got nothing to do with Lewis, blame the other teams for designing shit cars.
Where did I blame Lewis? Seriously? Show me.
I said that the same person or team winning all the time kills interest outside of the supporters of the serial winner.
Snooker got boring when Davis won every year. It stayed boring when Hendry won every year. I loved snooker at the time but couldn’t be arsed watching the world final when Hendry was running away with it.
F1 was boring when Schumacher was utterly dominant. Tour de France got boring when Indurain won every year and when Armstrong won every year.
I thing to do with the winners, or their style, just the sporting spectacle/ interest. Takes way the uncertainty of who is going to win, turn it into a procession, and it gets boring "I didn't! say you did i said blame the other teams for designing shit cars | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion
lol loads of normal folk lost their jobs because of Covid what makes Masi special
That’s my point we shouldn’t be so eager to do this to people in this day an age or try and avoid it if possible. My point is like others he shouldn’t of been fired. I would say this about anyone but because Masi is in the spotlight I’m more vocal about it.
His position as race director was untenable, not only because of the last race but numerous decisions over the season that were wrong or questionable. He has shown he is open to influence as well instead of being impartial.
100% right decision he has been removed, Covid or not.
Ok but was the right decision in this pandemic era to publicly do what they did. Maybe they should of given him extra help or even moved him across to a different role. When the shoe was in Mercedes favour no one complained.
We are in a time when life is precious and we must look after each other."What does the pandemic have to do with it? He fucked up in a position of authority and very much in the public eye. | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
but that's got nothing to do with Lewis, blame the other teams for designing shit cars.
Where did I blame Lewis? Seriously? Show me.
I said that the same person or team winning all the time kills interest outside of the supporters of the serial winner.
Snooker got boring when Davis won every year. It stayed boring when Hendry won every year. I loved snooker at the time but couldn’t be arsed watching the world final when Hendry was running away with it.
F1 was boring when Schumacher was utterly dominant. Tour de France got boring when Indurain won every year and when Armstrong won every year.
I thing to do with the winners, or their style, just the sporting spectacle/ interest. Takes way the uncertainty of who is going to win, turn it into a procession, and it gets boring
I didn't! say you did i said blame the other teams for designing shit cars"I don’t care where the “blame” lies. Someone asked why Lewis winning all the time reduces interest, and I attempted to explain why. And in a sport where such extreme levels of precision are achieved, describing cars that are a fraction slower as “shit” is a bit of an overreach. The slowest cars on the grid are still phenomenal pieces of engineering, even if you think they are “shit”. | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion
lol loads of normal folk lost their jobs because of Covid what makes Masi special
That’s my point we shouldn’t be so eager to do this to people in this day an age or try and avoid it if possible. My point is like others he shouldn’t of been fired. I would say this about anyone but because Masi is in the spotlight I’m more vocal about it.
His position as race director was untenable, not only because of the last race but numerous decisions over the season that were wrong or questionable. He has shown he is open to influence as well instead of being impartial.
100% right decision he has been removed, Covid or not.
Ok but was the right decision in this pandemic era to publicly do what they did. Maybe they should of given him extra help or even moved him across to a different role. When the shoe was in Mercedes favour no one complained.
We are in a time when life is precious and we must look after each other.
What does the pandemic have to do with it?
He fucked up in a position of authority and very much in the public eye. "My point being have some care…..ie would you like to lose your job during a pandemic and then it’s broadcast to everyone to hear so we can all judge you??? | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion
lol loads of normal folk lost their jobs because of Covid what makes Masi special
That’s my point we shouldn’t be so eager to do this to people in this day an age or try and avoid it if possible. My point is like others he shouldn’t of been fired. I would say this about anyone but because Masi is in the spotlight I’m more vocal about it. "My point is people lost their jobs because of covid and nothing they did wrong, Masi made a mistake that altered the WDC so it's not really the same, also i believe he still has a job so hold back your tears | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion
lol loads of normal folk lost their jobs because of Covid what makes Masi special
That’s my point we shouldn’t be so eager to do this to people in this day an age or try and avoid it if possible. My point is like others he shouldn’t of been fired. I would say this about anyone but because Masi is in the spotlight I’m more vocal about it.
My point is people lost their jobs because of covid and nothing they did wrong, Masi made a mistake that altered the WDC so it's not really the same, also i believe he still has a job so hold back your tears"Get the feeling your a Hamilton fan lol | |||
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"Hamilton got to big for his boots.. Thinks he is bigger than the sport I agree with this too. Let’s be honest if it was the other way around Hamilton wouldn’t have said anything but instead celebrated. I do get where Hamilton fans are annoyed at Masi but the last 7 years it’s been all about Mercedes. He should of been man enough to say ok you won Max, I’ll see you next year. Instead he threw a strop, went quiet on social media throwing the im not coming back unless it’s dealt with threats and low and behold this has happened. No matter what we think I feel for Masi as if he has a family to support he has now lost his job and his name has been tarnished. In this day and age nobody deserves to lose their job specially after covid. Hamilton should of stood up and said you know what Masi doesn’t need to be fired but instead things need to change. Anyway that’s my opinion
lol loads of normal folk lost their jobs because of Covid what makes Masi special
That’s my point we shouldn’t be so eager to do this to people in this day an age or try and avoid it if possible. My point is like others he shouldn’t of been fired. I would say this about anyone but because Masi is in the spotlight I’m more vocal about it.
His position as race director was untenable, not only because of the last race but numerous decisions over the season that were wrong or questionable. He has shown he is open to influence as well instead of being impartial.
100% right decision he has been removed, Covid or not.
Ok but was the right decision in this pandemic era to publicly do what they did. Maybe they should of given him extra help or even moved him across to a different role. When the shoe was in Mercedes favour no one complained.
We are in a time when life is precious and we must look after each other.
What does the pandemic have to do with it?
He fucked up in a position of authority and very much in the public eye.
My point being have some care…..ie would you like to lose your job during a pandemic and then it’s broadcast to everyone to hear so we can all judge you???"If you take a position such as his whereby you are firmly in the public eye then you have to accept when you fuck up as he did it will be widely broadcast. I have no issue with how he was treated. He fucked up massively and deserves to be removed. | |||
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"Hamilton is the only reason many people watch F1. If he goes, the viewer ratings will plummet. Only reason I don't watch it
What is it about his driving you don't like?
Same person winning every year gets boring, in any sport, for everyone escape the fanboys of the person / team who keeps winning.
but that's got nothing to do with Lewis, blame the other teams for designing shit cars.
Where did I blame Lewis? Seriously? Show me.
I said that the same person or team winning all the time kills interest outside of the supporters of the serial winner.
Snooker got boring when Davis won every year. It stayed boring when Hendry won every year. I loved snooker at the time but couldn’t be arsed watching the world final when Hendry was running away with it.
F1 was boring when Schumacher was utterly dominant. Tour de France got boring when Indurain won every year and when Armstrong won every year.
I thing to do with the winners, or their style, just the sporting spectacle/ interest. Takes way the uncertainty of who is going to win, turn it into a procession, and it gets boring
I didn't! say you did i said blame the other teams for designing shit cars
I don’t care where the “blame” lies. Someone asked why Lewis winning all the time reduces interest, and I attempted to explain why.
And in a sport where such extreme levels of precision are achieved, describing cars that are a fraction slower as “shit” is a bit of an overreach.
The slowest cars on the grid are still phenomenal pieces of engineering, even if you think they are “shit”. "Oh i agree they are, i use to do some spark erosion for parts for the teams so i appreciate them. However if they ain't winning then they are crap, sorry but that's the reality of F1 last years cars are as good as scrap. | |||
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"I can't think of anything more boring than watch cars being driven round a track by over rated, over paid men....and as for Hamilton, well his antics over BLM was awful. He drives for Mercedes, who hitler drove about in the war while slaughtering 6million Jews, he wears a padlock and chain around his neck....the prick has never had it hard in life and he lives in a mansion and employs servents.just because he pays them it doesn't make it right" Definitely the nature of F1 and blm stuff made me not a fan of it. F1 is about being the best at what you do and there is just about every race driver. Hamilton got to F1 and stayed because he is one of the best ever. The merc domination made him the best in the numbers game but still open to who is actually the best ever. Luckily this season was probably the best ever in F1. Please let the money of merc now not be a dominant factor and the low rake car advantage has gone. Which the other should have but the bullet and gone to rather than get stuck with what they started with. | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD. True No Merc made the wrong choice on tyres twice. Would've, could've, should've - if Masi had made the correct decision, as per the rules, Lewis would have won and he would still be RD. It really is that simple. " | |||
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"I can't think of anything more boring than watch cars being driven round a track by over rated, over paid men....and as for Hamilton, well his antics over BLM was awful. He drives for Mercedes, who hitler drove about in the war while slaughtering 6million Jews, he wears a padlock and chain around his neck....the prick has never had it hard in life and he lives in a mansion and employs servents.just because he pays them it doesn't make it right" Well said couldn’t agree more about Hamilton. Thanks for those words and enlightening people | |||
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"I can't think of anything more boring than watch cars being driven round a track by over rated, over paid men....and as for Hamilton, well his antics over BLM was awful. He drives for Mercedes, who hitler drove about in the war while slaughtering 6million Jews, he wears a padlock and chain around his neck....the prick has never had it hard in life and he lives in a mansion and employs servents.just because he pays them it doesn't make it right" Nothing about go karts etc where he started off | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. " If Merc had been second on new tyres Red Bull would have complained. Yes? It was quite simply the wrong decision. It brought the sport into disrepute after it was revealed he followed the suggestion of a Red Bull executive. The new proposal looks like a good one so hopefully matters will be clearer in future. | |||
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"I can't think of anything more boring than watch cars being driven round a track by over rated, over paid men....and as for Hamilton, well his antics over BLM was awful. He drives for Mercedes, who hitler drove about in the war while slaughtering 6million Jews, he wears a padlock and chain around his neck....the prick has never had it hard in life and he lives in a mansion and employs servents.just because he pays them it doesn't make it right Nothing about go karts etc where he started off "Not sure what you’re getting at there ... was kart racing as a kid “having it hard in life”? I know he has been called out in the past for pretending he grew up in a ghetto (referred to Stevenage as “the slums”) | |||
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"He got the race going. If merc had been second and on new tyres they would not have complained. Moral of the story is be on the right tyres at the right time. Mercedes/Lewis made the right decision re tyres - Masi was the only one to make a wrong decision, that's why he's been removed as RD. No Merc made the wrong choice on tyres twice. Would've, could've, should've - if Masi had made the correct decision, as per the rules, Lewis would have won and he would still be RD. It really is that simple. He got the race going again it’s really that simple. That was the best result for F1 The silverstone accident should have been a ban for causing a big crash but he got away with it You mean ban Max for turning in to Lewis that's a bit harsh I think He left enough room if lewis was driving at the correct speed to make the corner with the room avl. Sadly he overdrove the corner and would never have made it. It’s the speed involved that’s the problem there is a point where you don’t do stupid stuff. " Now go and rewatch with Max trying to squeeze Hamilton all the way round. Also if Max had any idea then he would of done as Hamilton had done on Saturday in the sprint race and backed out as to win you first have to finish | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked " I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked " I totally agree with you | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . " I’m sure there are a whole range of different reasons why some people aren’t fans of his. It’s not compulsory for everyone to support or like the same sports teams or stars. Would be dull if they did. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked " Ditto for ..... Novak Djokovic, Christiano Ronaldo, John Higgins, Manchester United, All Blacks Rugby team, Conservative party,.... | |||
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"I can't think of anything more boring than watch cars being driven round a track by over rated, over paid men....and as for Hamilton, well his antics over BLM was awful. He drives for Mercedes, who hitler drove about in the war while slaughtering 6million Jews, he wears a padlock and chain around his neck....the prick has never had it hard in life and he lives in a mansion and employs servents.just because he pays them it doesn't make it right Nothing about go karts etc where he started off
Not sure what you’re getting at there ... was kart racing as a kid “having it hard in life”?
I know he has been called out in the past for pretending he grew up in a ghetto (referred to Stevenage as “the slums”) "He came through the ranks from go karting and not like some who just walked into the sport.I never said he had a hard life anyway that is you twisting things as usual to suit your agenda. Have you tried it apart from at butlins?Not so easy but you would know. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked Ditto for ..... Novak Djokovic, Christiano Ronaldo, John Higgins, Manchester United, All Blacks Rugby team, Conservative party,...." No Rangers  | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked Ditto for ..... Novak Djokovic, Christiano Ronaldo, John Higgins, Manchester United, All Blacks Rugby team, Conservative party,.... No Rangers "My apologies.  Rangers. | |||
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"Feel a bit sorry for Masi. He made a decision, in the heat of the moment and in the interests of finishing the race racing, which inadvertently created an advantage to one driver over another. A mistake. He has now had this role taken away and had it given to two others to share, with experienced backup members such as Herbie Blash, and a 'virtual race room' to help out with coming to the correct decisions. Feels like a lot of pressure was on Masi's shoulders and I'm surprised there hasn't been loads of other mistakes made given the circumstances of the sport and how fast-paced it is and how many technical and sporting rules there are to be aware of. He will not get to benefit from all this new-found support. He stepped in when Charlie Whiting passed away on the eve of the 2019 season and his job is not just as a race director. He plays a huge part in bringing circuits up to scratch in terms of safety and also new tracks onto the calendar (Dutch GP for example). I hope he can at least keep that element. I know that some Hamilton fans won't be happy until he's crucified, after seeing what I've encountered on social media, but I do not believe that he did it for malicious reasons and I don't get the hate for him. Or Latifi for that matter. It's a sport, mistakes/misjudgements can happen to anyone." I wouldn’t say he created a advantage for one driver. That driver’s team created the advantage by being on the right tyres at the right time. He wanted the race to start so imo he did the right thing. | |||
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"Feel a bit sorry for Masi. He made a decision, in the heat of the moment and in the interests of finishing the race racing, which inadvertently created an advantage to one driver over another. A mistake. He has now had this role taken away and had it given to two others to share, with experienced backup members such as Herbie Blash, and a 'virtual race room' to help out with coming to the correct decisions. Feels like a lot of pressure was on Masi's shoulders and I'm surprised there hasn't been loads of other mistakes made given the circumstances of the sport and how fast-paced it is and how many technical and sporting rules there are to be aware of. He will not get to benefit from all this new-found support. He stepped in when Charlie Whiting passed away on the eve of the 2019 season and his job is not just as a race director. He plays a huge part in bringing circuits up to scratch in terms of safety and also new tracks onto the calendar (Dutch GP for example). I hope he can at least keep that element. I know that some Hamilton fans won't be happy until he's crucified, after seeing what I've encountered on social media, but I do not believe that he did it for malicious reasons and I don't get the hate for him. Or Latifi for that matter. It's a sport, mistakes/misjudgements can happen to anyone. I wouldn’t say he created a advantage for one driver. That driver’s team created the advantage by being on the right tyres at the right time. He wanted the race to start so imo he did the right thing. " It was not as simple as that. The teams were told first of all that the lapped cars would not be allowed to unlap themselves. Then Verstappen came in for new tyres as, although he had been 11 seconds behind Hamilton, he had sufficient time before the 3rd car not to lose his 2nd place. Then the teams were told lapped cars would be allowed to unlap themselves. Because of the time required to do this Mercedes knew the race would finish behind the safety car with Hamilton in the lead. Hamilton could not pit for new tyres then as he would lose the lead to Verstappen if the race finished behind the safety car as had been suggested. Then Red Bull suggested to Masi only the cars between Hamilton and Verstappen need to unlap themselves as those behind would not interfere with the "shoot out". So that is what Masi ordered. This left Hamilton on cold, well worn, hard tyres with Verstappen on very warm brand new soft tyres immediately behind him. Hamilton tried to hold Verstappen off but the speed difference between the two cars was too great. Had Massi followed the normal procedure then the race would have finished behind the safety car and Hamilton would be World Champion. Verstappen, if he had won in the normal race, would be a very worthy World Champion. Unfortunately his win is for ever tainted by Masi's decision. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked " Man, You would’ve hated the other guy with 7 WDCs | |||
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"The Lewis hate in here smells.  "Yes, but when Lewis achieves what Beckham, Gerrard, Button, Redgrave, Botham, etc. achieved in international sports, he'll be revered just like them. . . . Oh wait, that doesn't work does it . . . ? | |||
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"I can't think of anything more boring than watch cars being driven round a track by over rated, over paid men....and as for Hamilton, well his antics over BLM was awful. He drives for Mercedes, who hitler drove about in the war while slaughtering 6million Jews, he wears a padlock and chain around his neck....the prick has never had it hard in life and he lives in a mansion and employs servents.just because he pays them it doesn't make it right Nothing about go karts etc where he started off
Not sure what you’re getting at there ... was kart racing as a kid “having it hard in life”?
I know he has been called out in the past for pretending he grew up in a ghetto (referred to Stevenage as “the slums”)
He came through the ranks from go karting and not like some who just walked into the sport.I never said he had a hard life anyway that is you twisting things as usual to suit your agenda.
Have you tried it apart from at butlins?Not so easy but you would know."He had been picked up by a formula 1 team before he hit 13. And doing tons of kart racing as a kid is bliss. His dad had given up his job to help develop him ... this is krona. Kid who had it hard, came up the hard way or had to fight hard to get onto a career fast track. He was nurtured and developed from the word go. And then turned in his friends and neighbours and talked about “getting out of the slums”. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either. "Why then? | |||
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"I can't think of anything more boring than watch cars being driven round a track by over rated, over paid men....and as for Hamilton, well his antics over BLM was awful. He drives for Mercedes, who hitler drove about in the war while slaughtering 6million Jews, he wears a padlock and chain around his neck....the prick has never had it hard in life and he lives in a mansion and employs servents.just because he pays them it doesn't make it right Nothing about go karts etc where he started off
Not sure what you’re getting at there ... was kart racing as a kid “having it hard in life”?
I know he has been called out in the past for pretending he grew up in a ghetto (referred to Stevenage as “the slums”)
He came through the ranks from go karting and not like some who just walked into the sport.I never said he had a hard life anyway that is you twisting things as usual to suit your agenda.
Have you tried it apart from at butlins?Not so easy but you would know."Karting background. Same as Schumacher then. Best route for kids to follow if they want to get into racing. | |||
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"So given that the FIA think he needed to be removed from that position due to his decision making for the final race, does this not indicate that the wrong champion was crowned? Thus meaning the title should be stripped and given to the person who lost out due to the incorrect decision? I know very little of the rules & regs and previous decisions from earlier races/seasons but curious to know peoples thoughts…." No. They decided to stand by the decision. Suggestions of stripping titles is just fanboys clutching at straws. Time thanks move on. Hope we get a good season this year and not a load of processions | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?"Because people who dislike him generally don’t judge him on his driving, but his personality. He’s a pretty humble guy but they’ll call him arrogant. He’s fought for what he’s got but he’s self entitled. Many (not all, sure) of these people who judge him for things that are irrelevant to what he does (drives cars) do so because they need to find something plausible to pin there criticism on because they’re aware enough not to be outright racist. Certainly they don’t bother to judge other drivers by the same standards, and never comment on the personal lives of the other drivers. It’s all very subtle but also very obvious. | |||
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"So given that the FIA think he needed to be removed from that position due to his decision making for the final race, does this not indicate that the wrong champion was crowned? Thus meaning the title should be stripped and given to the person who lost out due to the incorrect decision? I know very little of the rules & regs and previous decisions from earlier races/seasons but curious to know peoples thoughts…." Is much as I disagree with the decisions Masi made and feel Hamilton should be champion, it wouldn't be fair on Max to strip him of his title, it's not his fault they race director was incompetent either xx | |||
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"So given that the FIA think he needed to be removed from that position due to his decision making for the final race, does this not indicate that the wrong champion was crowned? Thus meaning the title should be stripped and given to the person who lost out due to the incorrect decision? I know very little of the rules & regs and previous decisions from earlier races/seasons but curious to know peoples thoughts…. Last years title is toxic damaged goods, whoever holds it holds a tainted trophy either way, I’m sure he doesn’t want it - just like Damon Hill he’s not whined once that it should be his, but been the definition of decency about the whole thing. He’s always been about the next one, hence never having number 1 on his car. " Yeah, people seem to forget he was the first to congratulate Max after the race, went up and shook his hand. | |||
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"So given that the FIA think he needed to be removed from that position due to his decision making for the final race, does this not indicate that the wrong champion was crowned? Thus meaning the title should be stripped and given to the person who lost out due to the incorrect decision? I know very little of the rules & regs and previous decisions from earlier races/seasons but curious to know peoples thoughts…. Is much as I disagree with the decisions Masi made and feel Hamilton should be champion, it wouldn't be fair on Max to strip him of his title, it's not his fault they race director was incompetent either xx" Very true, Max benefited greatly but not through his own doings. Now he holds the most controversial title ever, so hopefully one day he wins more to clean that legacy. But we can’t take it away from him, even though we know it wasn’t quite right. Sadly for him, they say history only says who won, but in this case the 2021 title will never be seen as Max’s first, it will be seen as the one the FIA royally screwed up on before anything else | |||
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"So given that the FIA think he needed to be removed from that position due to his decision making for the final race, does this not indicate that the wrong champion was crowned? Thus meaning the title should be stripped and given to the person who lost out due to the incorrect decision? I know very little of the rules & regs and previous decisions from earlier races/seasons but curious to know peoples thoughts…. Is much as I disagree with the decisions Masi made and feel Hamilton should be champion, it wouldn't be fair on Max to strip him of his title, it's not his fault they race director was incompetent either xx Very true, Max benefited greatly but not through his own doings. Now he holds the most controversial title ever, so hopefully one day he wins more to clean that legacy. But we can’t take it away from him, even though we know it wasn’t quite right. Sadly for him, they say history only says who won, but in this case the 2021 title will never be seen as Max’s first, it will be seen as the one the FIA royally screwed up on before anything else " Omg I've just seen the number of typos in my last message. Yes this will never be remembered as a clean title, but due to his dirty driving (which is his fault) and several bad decisions by the FIA throughout the season, especially the final race. He certainly has the talent of a multiple world champion, he just needs to clean up his driving and have officials not negatively influencing the racing. I hope Lewis gets at least one more to secure his legacy. He could be a 10 time champion if it wasn't for the bad tyre decision by McLaren in China, the engine blowup he had in the year rosberg won, and last year. Xx | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
Because people who dislike him generally don’t judge him on his driving, but his personality. He’s a pretty humble guy but they’ll call him arrogant. He’s fought for what he’s got but he’s self entitled. Many (not all, sure) of these people who judge him for things that are irrelevant to what he does (drives cars) do so because they need to find something plausible to pin there criticism on because they’re aware enough not to be outright racist. Certainly they don’t bother to judge other drivers by the same standards, and never comment on the personal lives of the other drivers. It’s all very subtle but also very obvious. "So if someone isn’t a fan of Hamilton, they must be racist? I like some sports stars more than others, can always explain why, but it has nothing to do with their race or the colour of their skin. I never took the Hamilton, always thought there was a hit of fakeness to the persona that he presented to the media, needless posing. Better driver than vettel, but I find vettel funny, entertaining, a good laugh, would be a good lad to spend the night down the pub with. In other sports, again I like some performers more than others. And it had nothing to do with race. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
Because people who dislike him generally don’t judge him on his driving, but his personality. He’s a pretty humble guy but they’ll call him arrogant. He’s fought for what he’s got but he’s self entitled. Many (not all, sure) of these people who judge him for things that are irrelevant to what he does (drives cars) do so because they need to find something plausible to pin there criticism on because they’re aware enough not to be outright racist. Certainly they don’t bother to judge other drivers by the same standards, and never comment on the personal lives of the other drivers. It’s all very subtle but also very obvious.
So if someone isn’t a fan of Hamilton, they must be racist?
I like some sports stars more than others, can always explain why, but it has nothing to do with their race or the colour of their skin.
I never took the Hamilton, always thought there was a hit of fakeness to the persona that he presented to the media, needless posing. Better driver than vettel, but I find vettel funny, entertaining, a good laugh, would be a good lad to spend the night down the pub with.
In other sports, again I like some performers more than others. And it had nothing to do with race. "I used to hate Vettle but now totally changed my view on him and think after his life in F1 I think he will go on to do many great things outside motorsport. | |||
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"So given that the FIA think he needed to be removed from that position due to his decision making for the final race, does this not indicate that the wrong champion was crowned? Thus meaning the title should be stripped and given to the person who lost out due to the incorrect decision? I know very little of the rules & regs and previous decisions from earlier races/seasons but curious to know peoples thoughts…. Is much as I disagree with the decisions Masi made and feel Hamilton should be champion, it wouldn't be fair on Max to strip him of his title, it's not his fault they race director was incompetent either xx Very true, Max benefited greatly but not through his own doings. Now he holds the most controversial title ever, so hopefully one day he wins more to clean that legacy. But we can’t take it away from him, even though we know it wasn’t quite right. Sadly for him, they say history only says who won, but in this case the 2021 title will never be seen as Max’s first, it will be seen as the one the FIA royally screwed up on before anything else Omg I've just seen the number of typos in my last message. Yes this will never be remembered as a clean title, but due to his dirty driving (which is his fault) and several bad decisions by the FIA throughout the season, especially the final race. He certainly has the talent of a multiple world champion, he just needs to clean up his driving and have officials not negatively influencing the racing. I hope Lewis gets at least one more to secure his legacy. He could be a 10 time champion if it wasn't for the bad tyre decision by McLaren in China, the engine blowup he had in the year rosberg won, and last year. Xx" If you’re going to rewrite history like that, then Schumacher could easily have won more titles too. Let’s just stick to facts instead | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
Because people who dislike him generally don’t judge him on his driving, but his personality. He’s a pretty humble guy but they’ll call him arrogant. He’s fought for what he’s got but he’s self entitled. Many (not all, sure) of these people who judge him for things that are irrelevant to what he does (drives cars) do so because they need to find something plausible to pin there criticism on because they’re aware enough not to be outright racist. Certainly they don’t bother to judge other drivers by the same standards, and never comment on the personal lives of the other drivers. It’s all very subtle but also very obvious.
So if someone isn’t a fan of Hamilton, they must be racist?
I like some sports stars more than others, can always explain why, but it has nothing to do with their race or the colour of their skin.
I never took the Hamilton, always thought there was a hit of fakeness to the persona that he presented to the media, needless posing. Better driver than vettel, but I find vettel funny, entertaining, a good laugh, would be a good lad to spend the night down the pub with.
In other sports, again I like some performers more than others. And it had nothing to do with race.
I used to hate Vettle but now totally changed my view on him and think after his life in F1 I think he will go on to do many great things outside motorsport. "First time I realised he was a good lad was when j saw him on top gear. Just came across as very genuine and good fun. Nothing contrived or forced, no posing and posturing | |||
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"So given that the FIA think he needed to be removed from that position due to his decision making for the final race, does this not indicate that the wrong champion was crowned? Thus meaning the title should be stripped and given to the person who lost out due to the incorrect decision? I know very little of the rules & regs and previous decisions from earlier races/seasons but curious to know peoples thoughts…. Is much as I disagree with the decisions Masi made and feel Hamilton should be champion, it wouldn't be fair on Max to strip him of his title, it's not his fault they race director was incompetent either xx Very true, Max benefited greatly but not through his own doings. Now he holds the most controversial title ever, so hopefully one day he wins more to clean that legacy. But we can’t take it away from him, even though we know it wasn’t quite right. Sadly for him, they say history only says who won, but in this case the 2021 title will never be seen as Max’s first, it will be seen as the one the FIA royally screwed up on before anything else Omg I've just seen the number of typos in my last message. Yes this will never be remembered as a clean title, but due to his dirty driving (which is his fault) and several bad decisions by the FIA throughout the season, especially the final race. He certainly has the talent of a multiple world champion, he just needs to clean up his driving and have officials not negatively influencing the racing. I hope Lewis gets at least one more to secure his legacy. He could be a 10 time champion if it wasn't for the bad tyre decision by McLaren in China, the engine blowup he had in the year rosberg won, and last year. Xx If you’re going to rewrite history like that, then Schumacher could easily have won more titles too. Let’s just stick to facts instead " Merc also had a bad tyre decision also lol. You won’t win lol | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
Because people who dislike him generally don’t judge him on his driving, but his personality. He’s a pretty humble guy but they’ll call him arrogant. He’s fought for what he’s got but he’s self entitled. Many (not all, sure) of these people who judge him for things that are irrelevant to what he does (drives cars) do so because they need to find something plausible to pin there criticism on because they’re aware enough not to be outright racist. Certainly they don’t bother to judge other drivers by the same standards, and never comment on the personal lives of the other drivers. It’s all very subtle but also very obvious.
So if someone isn’t a fan of Hamilton, they must be racist?
I like some sports stars more than others, can always explain why, but it has nothing to do with their race or the colour of their skin.
I never took the Hamilton, always thought there was a hit of fakeness to the persona that he presented to the media, needless posing. Better driver than vettel, but I find vettel funny, entertaining, a good laugh, would be a good lad to spend the night down the pub with.
In other sports, again I like some performers more than others. And it had nothing to do with race.
I used to hate Vettle but now totally changed my view on him and think after his life in F1 I think he will go on to do many great things outside motorsport.
First time I realised he was a good lad was when j saw him on top gear. Just came across as very genuine and good fun. Nothing contrived or forced, no posing and posturing "He is past his prime now sadly but definitely a interesting person to listen to. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?"What is understood doesn’t need to be said. And no this isn’t to say that everyone that dislikes Lewis is guilty of the same thing. Obviously. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
What is understood doesn’t need to be said. And no this isn’t to say that everyone that dislikes Lewis is guilty of the same thing. Obviously. "Vague insinuations instead of saying what you think? Or because you know that if you post your theory then people will say they don’t agree? Vague insinuations get us nowhere | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
What is understood doesn’t need to be said. And no this isn’t to say that everyone that dislikes Lewis is guilty of the same thing. Obviously.
Vague insinuations instead of saying what you think?
Or because you know that if you post your theory then people will say they don’t agree?
Vague insinuations get us nowhere "well Jimmy the fab Ninja, I was never one to beat about the Bush, (well if she asked nicely on a Saturday night maybe  ) and also Ias I remember sitting in a packed bar in a resort in Spain where munti nationals were watching the race,
The reason auld Lewis is/ was never liked by some is that the guy was always a shade darker than some would have liked, the more successful he got the more they hated him, I remember a few people at the bar when they saw him in the pits say ohhhh there are people in the racing elite not liking this kid being in a seat already,
His so called arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement is just a smoke screen excuse to dislike him as all F1 Champions have had the same traits down tru the decades.
And would I be right in saying the Hate towards him seemed to gather more numbers when he took a knee??
I hope I wasn't 2 Vague there.
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Why then?
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
Because people who dislike him generally don’t judge him on his driving, but his personality. He’s a pretty humble guy but they’ll call him arrogant. He’s fought for what he’s got but he’s self entitled. Many (not all, sure) of these people who judge him for things that are irrelevant to what he does (drives cars) do so because they need to find something plausible to pin there criticism on because they’re aware enough not to be outright racist. Certainly they don’t bother to judge other drivers by the same standards, and never comment on the personal lives of the other drivers. It’s all very subtle but also very obvious.
So if someone isn’t a fan of Hamilton, they must be racist?
I like some sports stars more than others, can always explain why, but it has nothing to do with their race or the colour of their skin.
I never took the Hamilton, always thought there was a hit of fakeness to the persona that he presented to the media, needless posing. Better driver than vettel, but I find vettel funny, entertaining, a good laugh, would be a good lad to spend the night down the pub with.
In other sports, again I like some performers more than others. And it had nothing to do with race.
I used to hate Vettle but now totally changed my view on him and think after his life in F1 I think he will go on to do many great things outside motorsport.
First time I realised he was a good lad was when j saw him on top gear. Just came across as very genuine and good fun. Nothing contrived or forced, no posing and posturing " | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
What is understood doesn’t need to be said. And no this isn’t to say that everyone that dislikes Lewis is guilty of the same thing. Obviously.
Vague insinuations instead of saying what you think?
Or because you know that if you post your theory then people will say they don’t agree?
Vague insinuations get us nowhere
well Jimmy the fab Ninja, I was never one to beat about the Bush, (well if she asked nicely on a Saturday night maybe ) and also Ias I remember sitting in a packed bar in a resort in Spain where munti nationals were watching the race,
The reason auld Lewis is/ was never liked by some is that the guy was always a shade darker than some would have liked, the more successful he got the more they hated him, I remember a few people at the bar when they saw him in the pits say ohhhh there are people in the racing elite not liking this kid being in a seat already,
His so called arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement is just a smoke screen excuse to dislike him as all F1 Champions have had the same traits down tru the decades.
And would I be right in saying the Hate towards him seemed to gather more numbers when he took a knee??
I hope I wasn't 2 Vague there.
"At least you were open about it this time, so thanks for that. So your theory is, as I suspected, that anyone who isn’t a fan of Lewis must be racist. Keep telling yourself that if it helps make you feel better about why not everybody is a fan of your idol. But there are a whole range of seasons that people might prefer other drivers, that have nothing to do with race. It is delusional and massively offensive to accuse all non-fans of being racist. | |||
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"Many (NOT ALL, sure) of these people So if someone isn’t a fan of Hamilton, they must be racist? Of course not, that would be ridiculous. As would ignoring context before saying such a thing “The ambassador” has just confirmed that that is exactly what he meant, that anyone who isn’t a fan of Hamilton is clearly racist I agree with you that this is ridiculous, but that is what he posted " It I was only quoting my own post to which you replied, not his | |||
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"Many (NOT ALL, sure) of these people So if someone isn’t a fan of Hamilton, they must be racist? Of course not, that would be ridiculous. As would ignoring context before saying such a thing “The ambassador” has just confirmed that that is exactly what he meant, that anyone who isn’t a fan of Hamilton is clearly racist I agree with you that this is ridiculous, but that is what he posted " no I didn't Jimmy the Ninja Nice Try though I only clarified or cleared up what you set out the bait for in the first place, So please don't try the Boris tactics on me mate,, it won't work There are plenty who dislike Hamilton for that very reason, there is no denying it (if your honest with yourself and or not a closet racist. There are also plenty who are just red bull fans, as there are plenty who just don't want Michael or Senna to be knocked off the best of all time perch,, and I'm sure in their day people disliked them for not being Hakkinen or Prost, but they or any other driver bar the nascar guy were never unliked because of their skin Colour, Or have you examples that counter this?? | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
What is understood doesn’t need to be said. And no this isn’t to say that everyone that dislikes Lewis is guilty of the same thing. Obviously.
Vague insinuations instead of saying what you think?
Or because you know that if you post your theory then people will say they don’t agree?
Vague insinuations get us nowhere
well Jimmy the fab Ninja, I was never one to beat about the Bush, (well if she asked nicely on a Saturday night maybe ) and also Ias I remember sitting in a packed bar in a resort in Spain where munti nationals were watching the race,
The reason auld Lewis is/ was never liked by some is that the guy was always a shade darker than some would have liked, the more successful he got the more they hated him, I remember a few people at the bar when they saw him in the pits say ohhhh there are people in the racing elite not liking this kid being in a seat already,
His so called arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement is just a smoke screen excuse to dislike him as all F1 Champions have had the same traits down tru the decades.
And would I be right in saying the Hate towards him seemed to gather more numbers when he took a knee??
I hope I wasn't 2 Vague there.
At least you were open about it this time, so thanks for that.
So your theory is, as I suspected, that anyone who isn’t a fan of Lewis must be racist.
Keep telling yourself that if it helps make you feel better about why not everybody is a fan of your idol. But there are a whole range of seasons that people might prefer other drivers, that have nothing to do with race.
It is delusional and massively offensive to accuse all non-fans of being racist. "my idol ???? Now now Jimmy you just played your hand here, for all to see, I never said anywhere that I was a Hamilton fan, Yes I think he is a great driver, the last race proved that, but I'm a Carlos fan myself, hoping he becomes a Ferrari great this year. and I suppose I dislike Max but not because he challenged Lewis, I just never liked his sharp elbows and I dispise Christian, so you can you use these points as ammo to come at me if you wish,, least you would have some true facts to work with,, As for my accusing,, nope I didn't do that either, as I said above I simply responded to the bait trap you set down. So in summary Jimmy the Fab ninja, Hamilton has his fans and haters as does all drivers What all drivers don't have is a % of that dislike/hate being directed at them because they are a single coco pop in a bowl rice crisps. Can't make it any simpler than that my man. | |||
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"Many (NOT ALL, sure) of these people So if someone isn’t a fan of Hamilton, they must be racist? Of course not, that would be ridiculous. As would ignoring context before saying such a thing “The ambassador” has just confirmed that that is exactly what he meant, that anyone who isn’t a fan of Hamilton is clearly racist I agree with you that this is ridiculous, but that is what he posted no I didn't Jimmy the Ninja Nice Try though I only clarified or cleared up what you set out the bait for in the first place, So please don't try the Boris tactics on me mate,, it won't work There are plenty who dislike Hamilton for that very reason, there is no denying it (if your honest with yourself and or not a closet racist. There are also plenty who are just red bull fans, as there are plenty who just don't want Michael or Senna to be knocked off the best of all time perch,, and I'm sure in their day people disliked them for not being Hakkinen or Prost, but they or any other driver bar the nascar guy were never unliked because of their skin Colour, Or have you examples that counter this?? " Yes there are lots of reasons that someone might not be a fan of a particular sports star or team, exactly as I had suggested. And there may be some sad bastards out there that don’t like Hamilton because of his race, and that is unacceptable. I don’t dispute that in any way. However, in every discussion, the suggestion is made that people know “the real reason” that people aren’t fans of Hamilton, and either make insinuations that this is due to racism, or mar outright accusations. Every time. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
What is understood doesn’t need to be said. And no this isn’t to say that everyone that dislikes Lewis is guilty of the same thing. Obviously.
Vague insinuations instead of saying what you think?
Or because you know that if you post your theory then people will say they don’t agree?
Vague insinuations get us nowhere
well Jimmy the fab Ninja, I was never one to beat about the Bush, (well if she asked nicely on a Saturday night maybe ) and also Ias I remember sitting in a packed bar in a resort in Spain where munti nationals were watching the race,
The reason auld Lewis is/ was never liked by some is that the guy was always a shade darker than some would have liked, the more successful he got the more they hated him, I remember a few people at the bar when they saw him in the pits say ohhhh there are people in the racing elite not liking this kid being in a seat already,
His so called arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement is just a smoke screen excuse to dislike him as all F1 Champions have had the same traits down tru the decades.
And would I be right in saying the Hate towards him seemed to gather more numbers when he took a knee??
I hope I wasn't 2 Vague there.
At least you were open about it this time, so thanks for that.
So your theory is, as I suspected, that anyone who isn’t a fan of Lewis must be racist.
Keep telling yourself that if it helps make you feel better about why not everybody is a fan of your idol. But there are a whole range of seasons that people might prefer other drivers, that have nothing to do with race.
It is delusional and massively offensive to accuse all non-fans of being racist. my idol
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Now now Jimmy you just played your hand here, for all to see, I never said anywhere that I was a Hamilton fan,
Yes I think he is a great driver, the last race proved that, but I'm a Carlos fan myself, hoping he becomes a Ferrari great this year. and I suppose I dislike Max but not because he challenged Lewis, I just never liked his sharp elbows and I dispise Christian, so you can you use these points as ammo to come at me if you wish,, least you would have some true facts to work with,,
As for my accusing,, nope I didn't do that either, as I said above I simply responded to the bait trap you set down. So in summary Jimmy the Fab ninja,
Hamilton has his fans and haters as does all drivers
What all drivers don't have is a % of that dislike/hate being directed at them because they are a single coco pop in a bowl rice crisps. Can't make it any simpler than that my man. "That’s fair enough, I agree with that assessment, that a small percentage of people who don’t support Hamilton are driven by his racial background. But the accusations of racism that come up every time he is mentioned vastly overplay that dynamic. No idea why you are calling me a ninja, by the way. Is that a Dublin thing? Not something I’m familiar with from when I grew up in Dublin . Perhaps you can explain that one to me when I am in Dublin next week! | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
What is understood doesn’t need to be said. And no this isn’t to say that everyone that dislikes Lewis is guilty of the same thing. Obviously.
Vague insinuations instead of saying what you think?
Or because you know that if you post your theory then people will say they don’t agree?
Vague insinuations get us nowhere
well Jimmy the fab Ninja, I was never one to beat about the Bush, (well if she asked nicely on a Saturday night maybe ) and also Ias I remember sitting in a packed bar in a resort in Spain where munti nationals were watching the race,
The reason auld Lewis is/ was never liked by some is that the guy was always a shade darker than some would have liked, the more successful he got the more they hated him, I remember a few people at the bar when they saw him in the pits say ohhhh there are people in the racing elite not liking this kid being in a seat already,
His so called arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement is just a smoke screen excuse to dislike him as all F1 Champions have had the same traits down tru the decades.
And would I be right in saying the Hate towards him seemed to gather more numbers when he took a knee??
I hope I wasn't 2 Vague there.
At least you were open about it this time, so thanks for that.
So your theory is, as I suspected, that anyone who isn’t a fan of Lewis must be racist.
Keep telling yourself that if it helps make you feel better about why not everybody is a fan of your idol. But there are a whole range of seasons that people might prefer other drivers, that have nothing to do with race.
It is delusional and massively offensive to accuse all non-fans of being racist. my idol
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Now now Jimmy you just played your hand here, for all to see, I never said anywhere that I was a Hamilton fan,
Yes I think he is a great driver, the last race proved that, but I'm a Carlos fan myself, hoping he becomes a Ferrari great this year. and I suppose I dislike Max but not because he challenged Lewis, I just never liked his sharp elbows and I dispise Christian, so you can you use these points as ammo to come at me if you wish,, least you would have some true facts to work with,,
As for my accusing,, nope I didn't do that either, as I said above I simply responded to the bait trap you set down. So in summary Jimmy the Fab ninja,
Hamilton has his fans and haters as does all drivers
What all drivers don't have is a % of that dislike/hate being directed at them because they are a single coco pop in a bowl rice crisps. Can't make it any simpler than that my man.
That’s fair enough, I agree with that assessment, that a small percentage of people who don’t support Hamilton are driven by his racial background.
But the accusations of racism that come up every time he is mentioned vastly overplay that dynamic.
No idea why you are calling me a ninja, by the way. Is that a Dublin thing? Not something I’m familiar with from when I grew up in Dublin . Perhaps you can explain that one to me when I am in Dublin next week! "1up Don't down play the numbers here, what you may think is a small % might shock you,, I have seen threads on FB over the years where its apparent many only hate the guy for that reason, and the numbers only grew after he aligned with BLM. 2nd thing, and most importantly I Am Not A Dub. Now as for being a Fab Ninja. I'll explain that to you now and save you the trip Your profile pic, Why Is that not the look you were going for,, because you sure nailed it, Infact drop into the fab bar at 19.00. Ninjas get free Saki all night. | |||
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"Good what he did was unfair and illigal and fixed the championship He did the right thing getting the race going again. Merc did the wrong thing by not keeping him of the right tyres at the right time " Lewis was leading and on a path to win his 8th. Max on the other hand was second and not catching up, in fact getting further behind, max had nothing to loose if he pitted for tyres. Lewis would loose the lead and the race and title if he pitted. Nobody could have predicted that masi would do what he did. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 If it wasn’t for his arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement he might not be so disliked I don't think that's the reason that some dislike him . . . . I don’t think so either.
Why then?
What is understood doesn’t need to be said. And no this isn’t to say that everyone that dislikes Lewis is guilty of the same thing. Obviously.
Vague insinuations instead of saying what you think?
Or because you know that if you post your theory then people will say they don’t agree?
Vague insinuations get us nowhere
well Jimmy the fab Ninja, I was never one to beat about the Bush, (well if she asked nicely on a Saturday night maybe ) and also Ias I remember sitting in a packed bar in a resort in Spain where munti nationals were watching the race,
The reason auld Lewis is/ was never liked by some is that the guy was always a shade darker than some would have liked, the more successful he got the more they hated him, I remember a few people at the bar when they saw him in the pits say ohhhh there are people in the racing elite not liking this kid being in a seat already,
His so called arrogance and his aura of self-entitlement is just a smoke screen excuse to dislike him as all F1 Champions have had the same traits down tru the decades.
And would I be right in saying the Hate towards him seemed to gather more numbers when he took a knee??
I hope I wasn't 2 Vague there.
At least you were open about it this time, so thanks for that.
So your theory is, as I suspected, that anyone who isn’t a fan of Lewis must be racist.
Keep telling yourself that if it helps make you feel better about why not everybody is a fan of your idol. But there are a whole range of seasons that people might prefer other drivers, that have nothing to do with race.
It is delusional and massively offensive to accuse all non-fans of being racist. my idol
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Now now Jimmy you just played your hand here, for all to see, I never said anywhere that I was a Hamilton fan,
Yes I think he is a great driver, the last race proved that, but I'm a Carlos fan myself, hoping he becomes a Ferrari great this year. and I suppose I dislike Max but not because he challenged Lewis, I just never liked his sharp elbows and I dispise Christian, so you can you use these points as ammo to come at me if you wish,, least you would have some true facts to work with,,
As for my accusing,, nope I didn't do that either, as I said above I simply responded to the bait trap you set down. So in summary Jimmy the Fab ninja,
Hamilton has his fans and haters as does all drivers
What all drivers don't have is a % of that dislike/hate being directed at them because they are a single coco pop in a bowl rice crisps. Can't make it any simpler than that my man.
That’s fair enough, I agree with that assessment, that a small percentage of people who don’t support Hamilton are driven by his racial background.
But the accusations of racism that come up every time he is mentioned vastly overplay that dynamic.
No idea why you are calling me a ninja, by the way. Is that a Dublin thing? Not something I’m familiar with from when I grew up in Dublin . Perhaps you can explain that one to me when I am in Dublin next week!
1up
Don't down play the numbers here, what you may think is a small % might shock you,, I have seen threads on FB over the years where its apparent many only hate the guy for that reason, and the numbers only grew after he aligned with BLM.
2nd thing, and most importantly
I Am Not A Dub.
Now as for being a Fab Ninja.
I'll explain that to you now and save you the trip
Your profile pic,
Why
Is that not the look you were going for,, because you sure nailed it,
Infact drop into the fab bar at 19.00. Ninjas get free Saki all night. "1 up? I have no idea what you’re on about. As for me saying you’re a Dub? I didn’t. You could be from anywhere, but you live in Dublin ... or at least your profile says you do. Looking forward to visiting my home town next week. I can see why you moved there! | |||
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"Good what he did was unfair and illigal and fixed the championship He did the right thing getting the race going again. Merc did the wrong thing by not keeping him of the right tyres at the right time Lewis was leading and on a path to win his 8th. Max on the other hand was second and not catching up, in fact getting further behind, max had nothing to loose if he pitted for tyres. Lewis would loose the lead and the race and title if he pitted. Nobody could have predicted that masi would do what he did. " Correct Red bull won it where Merc lost if for their drivers. If Hamilton would have given the first corner back like he should have the results could have been very different. | |||
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"Good what he did was unfair and illigal and fixed the championship He did the right thing getting the race going again. Merc did the wrong thing by not keeping him of the right tyres at the right time Lewis was leading and on a path to win his 8th. Max on the other hand was second and not catching up, in fact getting further behind, max had nothing to loose if he pitted for tyres. Lewis would loose the lead and the race and title if he pitted. Nobody could have predicted that masi would do what he did. Correct Red bull won it where Merc lost if for their drivers. If Hamilton would have given the first corner back like he should have the results could have been very different. " ¿Que? If Verstappen had retired or stuffed it into a barrier the result would have been different.
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"Good what he did was unfair and illigal and fixed the championship He did the right thing getting the race going again. Merc did the wrong thing by not keeping him of the right tyres at the right time Lewis was leading and on a path to win his 8th. Max on the other hand was second and not catching up, in fact getting further behind, max had nothing to loose if he pitted for tyres. Lewis would loose the lead and the race and title if he pitted. Nobody could have predicted that masi would do what he did. Correct Red bull won it where Merc lost if for their drivers. If Hamilton would have given the first corner back like he should have the results could have been very different. ¿Que? If Verstappen had retired or stuffed it into a barrier the result would have been different.
Can we avoid conjecture and just look at the facts please? "The facts are red bull won it and merc lost it that’s how simple it was lol | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 " That's not how sport works. Also, people complaining about LH being Arrogant - too big for his boots and so on, obviously have no idea how champions are constructed - these are the very traits of champions and GOATS. Tom Brady, Tiger Woods, Lewis Hamilton, Lionel Messi, Pele, Micheal Jordan, Lebron James, Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal, Serena Williams. All of them have a self-belief that dwarfs that of mere mortals - it is a core aspect of what propels them to victory after, victory after victory. No what people don't like about Hamilton, I suspect, is the guy took a stand on various moral issues ..refusing to instead to just 'shut up and dribble' or dance/play for the masters. The good news is, the guy is unlikely to give two fucks what people think of him. His best course of action is to keep on winning and annoying the hell out of detractors, then retiring as one of greatest drivers (if not the greatest driver) in the history of F1. | |||
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"Redbull strategy wasn't genius it was desperation and they also lambasting massi influenced his decision making by letting only the cars between Lewis and max unlap themselves which didn't happen fully, if it did then they would have finished behind safety car. can even listen to radio of a redbull person telling Massi what to do and then he does it for Christ's sake. It's like the hand of god in football we all know it wasn't right but the result still stands" I think the Red Bull convo just feeds into the narrative that it was a conspiracy. They were likely discussing how to finish the race under racing conditions, which all teams had agreed was the desired outcome. RB/Max fans could equally point to the fact that earlier in the race Wolff told Masi not to bring out the safety car (I think it was Kimi went off), and he didn't, as some sort of conspiracy theory that the teams were influencing the race director. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 That's not how sport works. Also, people complaining about LH being Arrogant - too big for his boots and so on, obviously have no idea how champions are constructed - these are the very traits of champions and GOATS. Tom Brady, Tiger Woods, Lewis Hamilton, Lionel Messi, Pele, Micheal Jordan, Lebron James, Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal, Serena Williams. All of them have a self-belief that dwarfs that of mere mortals - it is a core aspect of what propels them to victory after, victory after victory. No what people don't like about Hamilton, I suspect, is the guy took a stand on various moral issues ..refusing to instead to just 'shut up and dribble' or dance/play for the masters. The good news is, the guy is unlikely to give two fucks what people think of him. His best course of action is to keep on winning and annoying the hell out of detractors, then retiring as one of greatest drivers (if not the greatest driver) in the history of F1. " Absolutely this! Also- they love(d) Schumacher for the same things that they hate Lewis for. Hilariously predictable. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 That's not how sport works. Also, people complaining about LH being Arrogant - too big for his boots and so on, obviously have no idea how champions are constructed - these are the very traits of champions and GOATS. Tom Brady, Tiger Woods, Lewis Hamilton, Lionel Messi, Pele, Micheal Jordan, Lebron James, Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal, Serena Williams. All of them have a self-belief that dwarfs that of mere mortals - it is a core aspect of what propels them to victory after, victory after victory. No what people don't like about Hamilton, I suspect, is the guy took a stand on various moral issues ..refusing to instead to just 'shut up and dribble' or dance/play for the masters. The good news is, the guy is unlikely to give two fucks what people think of him. His best course of action is to keep on winning and annoying the hell out of detractors, then retiring as one of greatest drivers (if not the greatest driver) in the history of F1. Absolutely this! Also- they love(d) Schumacher for the same things that they hate Lewis for. Hilariously predictable. " The way I remember it, Schumacher had plenty of fans (like Hamilton does), and lots of detractors ... who thought he was arrogant, ruthless etc, and thought that it was boring that he won too much. Very similar! If problem aren’t fans of an individual or a team, they will find reasons that dislike them, or latch onto half-reasons, like a mega rich person going to great lengths to avoid paying vat in their jet. Fanboys won’t care abiit something like that, and some who is a big fan of a rival driver may get incensed by it. I was never really a fan, always thought there was too much posing going in and that he created a fake image that he liked to project, and the whole “getting out of the slums” thing fed that feeling, for example. As for the list of serial champions above, I agree that they all have immense self belief. As a sports coach myself, I find sports psychology fascinating, and the level of self belief that winners have is phenomenal. But that doesn’t always spill over ... some of them still come across as very modest and humble, despite their expectation re winning, eg federer. | |||
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"Travesty the guy made sure they could race to the line, what a flop if the season had ended behind the pace car, Mercedes fooked up big time had every opportunity to change tyres but thought they could cruise to a win with the best car lessons have been learnt " If Merc had stopped for tyres they would have given up the lead and Red Bull, being behind them on the road, would have stayed out and move into the lead behind the safety car. At that time the race was due to finish behind the safety car so even with fresh tyres Lewis could not pass Max. Masi was the referee. He knew precisely what he was doing when he broke with the rules to present Verstappen with an open goal. That is why he was removed from being Race director by the FIA. The sadest thing is Max is a brilliant driver and a well worthy champion who has had his first championship tainted by controversy. | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 That's not how sport works. Also, people complaining about LH being Arrogant - too big for his boots and so on, obviously have no idea how champions are constructed - these are the very traits of champions and GOATS. Tom Brady, Tiger Woods, Lewis Hamilton, Lionel Messi, Pele, Micheal Jordan, Lebron James, Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal, Serena Williams. All of them have a self-belief that dwarfs that of mere mortals - it is a core aspect of what propels them to victory after, victory after victory. No what people don't like about Hamilton, I suspect, is the guy took a stand on various moral issues ..refusing to instead to just 'shut up and dribble' or dance/play for the masters. The good news is, the guy is unlikely to give two fucks what people think of him. His best course of action is to keep on winning and annoying the hell out of detractors, then retiring as one of greatest drivers (if not the greatest driver) in the history of F1. Absolutely this! Also- they love(d) Schumacher for the same things that they hate Lewis for. Hilariously predictable. The way I remember it, Schumacher had plenty of fans (like Hamilton does), and lots of detractors ... who thought he was arrogant, ruthless etc, and thought that it was boring that he won too much. Very similar! If problem aren’t fans of an individual or a team, they will find reasons that dislike them, or latch onto half-reasons, like a mega rich person going to great lengths to avoid paying vat in their jet. Fanboys won’t care abiit something like that, and some who is a big fan of a rival driver may get incensed by it. I was never really a fan, always thought there was too much posing going in and that he created a fake image that he liked to project, and the whole “getting out of the slums” thing fed that feeling, for example. As for the list of serial champions above, I agree that they all have immense self belief. As a sports coach myself, I find sports psychology fascinating, and the level of self belief that winners have is phenomenal. But that doesn’t always spill over ... some of them still come across as very modest and humble, despite their expectation re winning, eg federer. " I doubt if there were many Schumacher detractors from his own country though - I bet most Germans gloried in his dominance. Brits supporting a Dutch driver of an Austrian team, I wonder why?? | |||
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"The ‘Lewis Hamilton FIA’ He has dominated the sport far too long, he’s had his day … it’s time to make way for someone else to have a go at being No1 That's not how sport works. Also, people complaining about LH being Arrogant - too big for his boots and so on, obviously have no idea how champions are constructed - these are the very traits of champions and GOATS. Tom Brady, Tiger Woods, Lewis Hamilton, Lionel Messi, Pele, Micheal Jordan, Lebron James, Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal, Serena Williams. All of them have a self-belief that dwarfs that of mere mortals - it is a core aspect of what propels them to victory after, victory after victory. No what people don't like about Hamilton, I suspect, is the guy took a stand on various moral issues ..refusing to instead to just 'shut up and dribble' or dance/play for the masters. The good news is, the guy is unlikely to give two fucks what people think of him. His best course of action is to keep on winning and annoying the hell out of detractors, then retiring as one of greatest drivers (if not the greatest driver) in the history of F1. Absolutely this! Also- they love(d) Schumacher for the same things that they hate Lewis for. Hilariously predictable. The way I remember it, Schumacher had plenty of fans (like Hamilton does), and lots of detractors ... who thought he was arrogant, ruthless etc, and thought that it was boring that he won too much. Very similar! If problem aren’t fans of an individual or a team, they will find reasons that dislike them, or latch onto half-reasons, like a mega rich person going to great lengths to avoid paying vat in their jet. Fanboys won’t care abiit something like that, and some who is a big fan of a rival driver may get incensed by it. I was never really a fan, always thought there was too much posing going in and that he created a fake image that he liked to project, and the whole “getting out of the slums” thing fed that feeling, for example. As for the list of serial champions above, I agree that they all have immense self belief. As a sports coach myself, I find sports psychology fascinating, and the level of self belief that winners have is phenomenal. But that doesn’t always spill over ... some of them still come across as very modest and humble, despite their expectation re winning, eg federer. I doubt if there were many Schumacher detractors from his own country though - I bet most Germans gloried in his dominance. Brits supporting a Dutch driver of an Austrian team, I wonder why??" Again, someone who goes for the “I wonder why”approach rather than saying what they think. Preferring the power of insinuation to stating an opinion. As for Germany uniting behind Schumacher? Not sure that happened in the way you imagine. The peak of his career was spent racing for an Italian team against German teams and other German drivers. | |||
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"Travesty the guy made sure they could race to the line, what a flop if the season had ended behind the pace car, Mercedes fooked up big time had every opportunity to change tyres but thought they could cruise to a win with the best car lessons have been learnt If Merc had stopped for tyres they would have given up the lead and Red Bull, being behind them on the road, would have stayed out and move into the lead behind the safety car. At that time the race was due to finish behind the safety car so even with fresh tyres Lewis could not pass Max. Masi was the referee. He knew precisely what he was doing when he broke with the rules to present Verstappen with an open goal. That is why he was removed from being Race director by the FIA. The sadest thing is Max is a brilliant driver and a well worthy champion who has had his first championship tainted by controversy." Merc could have stopped for tyres but they froze twice. Red bull had the upper hand in a safety car period and they chose to correct approach. If merc had come in red bull would have stayed out and the result would have been different as merc would have been saying exactly what red bull did. | |||
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