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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Tank fly boss walk jam nitty-gritty. You're listening to the boy from the big bad Salop . This is Jim hot, this is Jim hot.

Hello! Cowabunga tattva namaste. And of course, good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening. What's on your beautiful mind? What you up to? Working? Pervin'? Lurking? Whatever you're doing, share it here. Chat with other pervy night owls and pervy night flamingos. Talk about absolutely anything you want.

Newbies, thread watchers, you're very welcome here. Very, very welcome.

Don't be shy, give us a try.

Let's nocturnal. Smileyface

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Share, you and your giraffe are tonight's ²nd ¹st posters, congratulations!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Let's play round ³ of Jim's Spotify Surprise. The first person to give me the name of an act, I'll listen to the act. I'll search for the act on my Spotify, and press play.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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Can a run faster than a ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Can a run faster than a ?"

I'm not sure. I think it would depend on the distance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Share, you and your giraffe are tonight's ²nd ¹st posters, congratulations!"

Woohoo...thank you. I was rather sticking my neck out to be the second first.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Share, you and your giraffe are tonight's ²nd ¹st posters, congratulations!

Woohoo...thank you. I was rather sticking my neck out to be the second first. "

Enjoy the moment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Somebody please play Jim's Spotify Surprise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Share, you and your giraffe are tonight's ²nd ¹st posters, congratulations!

Woohoo...thank you. I was rather sticking my neck out to be the second first.

Enjoy the moment."

Thank you Jim. Sleep is calling and I shall answer her call.

Good night Jim. Have a lovely Nocturnal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Share, you and your giraffe are tonight's ²nd ¹st posters, congratulations!

Woohoo...thank you. I was rather sticking my neck out to be the second first.

Enjoy the moment.

Thank you Jim. Sleep is calling and I shall answer her call.

Good night Jim. Have a lovely Nocturnal."

Na night, sleep tight.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Can a run faster than a ?

I'm not sure. I think it would depend on the distance."

100 metres might put the ferret into second place though

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Let's play round ³ of Jim's Spotify Surprise. The first person to give me the name of an act, I'll listen to the act. I'll search for the act on my Spotify, and press play."

Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Let's play round ³ of Jim's Spotify Surprise. The first person to give me the name of an act, I'll listen to the act. I'll search for the act on my Spotify, and press play.

Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds. "

Nice one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Let's play round ³ of Jim's Spotify Surprise. The first person to give me the name of an act, I'll listen to the act. I'll search for the act on my Spotify, and press play.

Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.

Nice one. "

You're welcome.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Let's play round ³ of Jim's Spotify Surprise. The first person to give me the name of an act, I'll listen to the act. I'll search for the act on my Spotify, and press play.

Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.

Nice one.

You're welcome."

I like you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Let's play round ³ of Jim's Spotify Surprise. The first person to give me the name of an act, I'll listen to the act. I'll search for the act on my Spotify, and press play.

Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.

Nice one.

You're welcome.

I like you."

I'm an awesome guy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Can a run faster than a ?

I'm not sure. I think it would depend on the distance.

100 metres might put the ferret into second place though "

There's only one way to find out, race!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Can a run faster than a ?

I'm not sure. I think it would depend on the distance.

100 metres might put the ferret into second place though

There's only one way to find out, race!"

As long a we get a budgerigar and a cockapoodle involved as well then's all good

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

You never do what you're told

I'm coming out of the cold

We'll say a prayer for everyone that we know

And the years go by, I'll dry the tears from your eye

All we need is love and a place we call home

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Can a run faster than a ?

I'm not sure. I think it would depend on the distance.

100 metres might put the ferret into second place though

There's only one way to find out, race!

As long a we get a budgerigar and a cockapoodle involved as well then's all good "

And a butterfly. And a bee.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

A broken heart is still beating

In and out of time, hold your body next to mine, y'know, y'know

But you can't stop the bleeding

Sing to yourself and hold on

'Cos everybody's on the run,

Everybody's on the run

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 1676 Isaac Newton wrote to Robert Hooke “If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants”.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Can a run faster than a ?

I'm not sure. I think it would depend on the distance.

100 metres might put the ferret into second place though

There's only one way to find out, race!

As long a we get a budgerigar and a cockapoodle involved as well then's all good

And a butterfly. And a bee."

I used to have a pet bee, guess what his name was.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 1852 Great Ormond Street Hospital for Sick Children, London, admitted their first patient.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Can a run faster than a ?

I'm not sure. I think it would depend on the distance.

100 metres might put the ferret into second place though

There's only one way to find out, race!

As long a we get a budgerigar and a cockapoodle involved as well then's all good

And a butterfly. And a bee.

I used to have a pet bee, guess what his name was."

Sue?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 1906 the Labour Party was founded.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 1936 Adolf Hitler announced construction of the Volkswagen Beetle.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Sue?"

That's only his Sunday name

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Everybody needs someone to be there

Everybody needs to be alone

If ever you should take the time to wander

Let me be the star to guide you home

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sue?

That's only his Sunday name "

It's Friday nights for me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 1952 King George VI was buried in St. George's Chapel, Windsor Castle.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 1965 John Lennon passed his driving test.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 1989 the Soviet military occupation of Afghanistan ended.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 1996 American boxer Tommy Morrison announced that he had contracted HIV.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I'm off to bed, catch you all later

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 1998 The Angel of the North , a large-scale steel sculpture tall by Antony Gormley was installed in Gateshead.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm off to bed, catch you all later "

Na night, Ace.

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By *iCurious4WomenMan
over a year ago

Inverclyde

I'm just on here browsing looking for fun. I have recently discovered I'm bi. Always thought I was gay. So trying to explore that new side to me. I have to say though, trying to find women to have fun with on here is much more difficult than it is with guys. It's a shame.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Give you back a dream

Show you now what might have been

For the tears you cried will fade away

I'll be by your side

When they come and say goodbye

We will live to fight another day

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm just on here browsing looking for fun. I have recently discovered I'm bi. Always thought I was gay. So trying to explore that new side to me. I have to say though, trying to find women to have fun with on here is much more difficult than it is with guys. It's a shame. "

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, ScottishLadRob. Welcome to this nocturnal nonsense. Good luck with your discovery.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this day 2020 we lost Caroline Flack.

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By *iCurious4WomenMan
over a year ago

Inverclyde


"I'm just on here browsing looking for fun. I have recently discovered I'm bi. Always thought I was gay. So trying to explore that new side to me. I have to say though, trying to find women to have fun with on here is much more difficult than it is with guys. It's a shame.

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, ScottishLadRob. Welcome to this nocturnal nonsense. Good luck with your discovery. "
Thanks. Looking forward to it. Still trying to work out how to get women interested lol. It's all new to me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm just on here browsing looking for fun. I have recently discovered I'm bi. Always thought I was gay. So trying to explore that new side to me. I have to say though, trying to find women to have fun with on here is much more difficult than it is with guys. It's a shame.

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, ScottishLadRob. Welcome to this nocturnal nonsense. Good luck with your discovery. Thanks. Looking forward to it. Still trying to work out how to get women interested lol. It's all new to me. "

Have you tried Lynx Africa?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

ScottishLadRob, happy birthday.

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By *iCurious4WomenMan
over a year ago

Inverclyde


"I'm just on here browsing looking for fun. I have recently discovered I'm bi. Always thought I was gay. So trying to explore that new side to me. I have to say though, trying to find women to have fun with on here is much more difficult than it is with guys. It's a shame.

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, ScottishLadRob. Welcome to this nocturnal nonsense. Good luck with your discovery. Thanks. Looking forward to it. Still trying to work out how to get women interested lol. It's all new to me.

Have you tried Lynx Africa?"
Not bought lynx africa in a while. Will put it on my shopping list lol.

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By *iCurious4WomenMan
over a year ago

Inverclyde


"ScottishLadRob, happy birthday. "
Thanks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm just on here browsing looking for fun. I have recently discovered I'm bi. Always thought I was gay. So trying to explore that new side to me. I have to say though, trying to find women to have fun with on here is much more difficult than it is with guys. It's a shame.

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, ScottishLadRob. Welcome to this nocturnal nonsense. Good luck with your discovery. Thanks. Looking forward to it. Still trying to work out how to get women interested lol. It's all new to me.

Have you tried Lynx Africa? Not bought lynx africa in a while. Will put it on my shopping list lol."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Morning Jim

You’re up early

Or have you not been to bed yet

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Morning Jim

You’re up early

Or have you not been to bed yet "

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, Essexman. I'm up late. Are you up early or late?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Up for work early having a coffee cig before work

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Up for work early having a coffee cig before work "

I should have guessed when you said "Morning Jim". Don't spill your beans, and fill your lungs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Up for work early having a coffee cig before work

I should have guessed when you said "Morning Jim". Don't spill your beans, and fill your lungs."

Been four years since any beans have come out me lol ta Jim have good day

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Up for work early having a coffee cig before work

I should have guessed when you said "Morning Jim". Don't spill your beans, and fill your lungs.

Been four years since any beans have come out me lol ta Jim have good day "

You have a good day too, dude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Up early with the baby watching rubbish TV and scrolling the forums.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Up early with the baby watching rubbish TV and scrolling the forums.

Mrs "

Good moooooooooooooorning, Mocha. What do you watch on the telly at this time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good morning Jim et al.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Good morning Jim et al."

Good moooooooooooooorning, Share. That was a power nap.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Morning all. Pissing with rain here once again.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Morning all. Pissing with rain here once again."

Good moooooooooooooooooorning, bluebell. It's always raining in Glasgow.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Morning all. Pissing with rain here once again.

Good moooooooooooooooooorning, bluebell. It's always raining in Glasgow."

Snow is on its way according to the weatherman.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Morning all. Pissing with rain here once again.

Good moooooooooooooooooorning, bluebell. It's always raining in Glasgow.

Snow is on its way according to the weatherman."

https://youtu.be/TSffz_bl6zo

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By *nassuming_gentMan
over a year ago

Fife

It would be good to get the snow out of the way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good morning Jim et al.

Good moooooooooooooorning, Share. That was a power nap."

It was indeed. It's my sleeping pattern. I tend to sleep in short bursts. I usually awaken more tired after a sleep of more than 4 hours.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It would be good to get the snow out of the way"

Good mooooooooooooooorning, Fife. Don't you enjoy making a ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Good morning Jim et al.

Good moooooooooooooorning, Share. That was a power nap.

It was indeed. It's my sleeping pattern. I tend to sleep in short bursts. I usually awaken more tired after a sleep of more than 4 hours."

How funny.

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By *nassuming_gentMan
over a year ago

Fife

Sod’s law, I start a new job in March and I’m sat in bed wide awake at this time in the morning, but I suppose what’s a perv going to do lol

How are we all

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By *nassuming_gentMan
over a year ago

Fife

Coffee would be lovely

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By *nassuming_gentMan
over a year ago

Fife

Absolutely do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Up early with the baby watching rubbish TV and scrolling the forums.

Mrs

Good moooooooooooooorning, Mocha. What do you watch on the telly at this time?"

A super girly cougar Town, however the other little one is up and now it's frozen - send help and gin!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone seen Jack?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sod’s law, I start a new job in March and I’m sat in bed wide awake at this time in the morning, but I suppose what’s a perv going to do lol

How are we all"

You've got a couple of weeks to sleep.

I'm good. I'm in bed with the radio on.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Up early with the baby watching rubbish TV and scrolling the forums.

Mrs

Good moooooooooooooorning, Mocha. What do you watch on the telly at this time?

A super girly cougar Town, however the other little one is up and now it's frozen - send help and gin! "

This is the best I can do, .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Has anyone seen Jack?"

Good moooooooooooooooorning, VV. Jack who?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has anyone seen Jack?

Good moooooooooooooooorning, VV. Jack who?"
it's all good Mr daniels was located

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Has anyone seen Jack?

Good moooooooooooooooorning, VV. Jack who?it's all good Mr daniels was located"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Here's one I prepared earlier.

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By *hamrock 1888Man
over a year ago

on tour

Playing warzone because I'm going Nightshift and need to turn my body clock around!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh dear looks like it's just starting!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Playing warzone because I'm going Nightshift and need to turn my body clock around! "

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, Shamrock. Will you be able to switch your circadian rhythm?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Oh dear looks like it's just starting! "

What's starting?

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By *hamrock 1888Man
over a year ago

on tour


"Playing warzone because I'm going Nightshift and need to turn my body clock around!

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, Shamrock. Will you be able to switch your circadian rhythm?

"

Probably not I only hav two nights this week then off for 4 body is gonna be a mess!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Playing warzone because I'm going Nightshift and need to turn my body clock around!

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, Shamrock. Will you be able to switch your circadian rhythm?

Probably not I only hav two nights this week then off for 4 body is gonna be a mess!! "

Oh blimey. Rather you than me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh dear looks like it's just starting!

What's starting?"

Russia has just invaded Ukraine

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"I'm off to bed, catch you all later "

Who said that?

Ah I see, is it later now? I can't even remember what colour underpants are en vogue...somebody give me a nudge please, I 'll make some cheese & crackers for my imaginary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm off to bed, catch you all later

Who said that?

Ah I see, is it later now? I can't even remember what colour underpants are en vogue...somebody give me a nudge please, I 'll make some cheese & crackers for my imaginary "

Our not imaginary cat likes cheese.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Oh dear looks like it's just starting!

What's starting?

Russia has just invaded Ukraine "

Really? I've got talkRADIO on, they haven't said anything. I'll go downstairs in a bit, put the telly on.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm off to bed, catch you all later

Who said that?

Ah I see, is it later now? I can't even remember what colour underpants are en vogue...somebody give me a nudge please, I 'll make some cheese & crackers for my imaginary

Our not imaginary cat likes cheese. "

Ask your cat what colour of pants are in fashion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh dear looks like it's just starting!

What's starting?

Russia has just invaded Ukraine

Really? I've got talkRADIO on, they haven't said anything. I'll go downstairs in a bit, put the telly on."

Yeah https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60454795

Literally just started about 40 minutes ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm off to bed, catch you all later

Who said that?

Ah I see, is it later now? I can't even remember what colour underpants are en vogue...somebody give me a nudge please, I 'll make some cheese & crackers for my imaginary

Our not imaginary cat likes cheese.

Ask your cat what colour of pants are in fashion."

Her name is Tilly (matilda when she's in trouble) and she said sage green.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, Tilly. Thanks for the sage advice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am wither ro tipsy or to off the frid, i Didnt understand this for love nor money haha

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I am wither ro tipsy or to off the frid, i Didnt understand this for love nor money haha"

Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeveing, CBW. This thread can be anything you want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, Tilly. Thanks for the sage advice."

She also said to tell you that eating cheese after midnight makes you wet the bed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"I'm off to bed, catch you all later

Who said that?

Ah I see, is it later now? I can't even remember what colour underpants are en vogue...somebody give me a nudge please, I 'll make some cheese & crackers for my imaginary

Our not imaginary cat likes cheese. "

Does she like cranberry & wensleydale ?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"[Bowl of Rice Krispies Removed by cat at 24/02/22 03:45:03]"

Damn moggies

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, Tilly. Thanks for the sage advice.

She also said to tell you that eating cheese after midnight makes you wet the bed. "

But I like late night cheese and ham sandwiches.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm off to bed, catch you all later

Who said that?

Ah I see, is it later now? I can't even remember what colour underpants are en vogue...somebody give me a nudge please, I 'll make some cheese & crackers for my imaginary

Our not imaginary cat likes cheese.

Does she like cranberry & wensleydale ?"

They're my favourite music hall act.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Sing me one of their lullabies then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm off to bed, catch you all later

Who said that?

Ah I see, is it later now? I can't even remember what colour underpants are en vogue...somebody give me a nudge please, I 'll make some cheese & crackers for my imaginary

Our not imaginary cat likes cheese.

Does she like cranberry & wensleydale ?"

She goes actually as we gave her some at Christmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, Tilly. Thanks for the sage advice.

She also said to tell you that eating cheese after midnight makes you wet the bed.

But I like late night cheese and ham sandwiches."

Tilly's advice is to sleep with a bottle by the bed just in case.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Good eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevening, Tilly. Thanks for the sage advice.

She also said to tell you that eating cheese after midnight makes you wet the bed.

But I like late night cheese and ham sandwiches.

Tilly's advice is to sleep with a bottle by the bed just in case. "

I'll keep on trucking.

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over a year ago


"Sing me one of their lullabies then "

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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I've just closed the curtains, pulled the cat out of the way and everything. The stage is set....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The milkman is early.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've just closed the curtains, pulled the cat out of the way and everything. The stage is set...."

Bit scary isn't it.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Does she like cranberry & wensleydale ?

She goes actually as we gave her some at Christmas. "

In that case, you and Ash are more than welcome, but I'm having no cat stealing ma cheese in the middle of the night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does she like cranberry & wensleydale ?

She goes actually as we gave her some at Christmas.

In that case, you and Ash are more than welcome, but I'm having no cat stealing ma cheese in the middle of the night "

We come as a package! No Tilly, No Mr and Mrs Hot.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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I'll get some Dairylea Triangles in then, how many would it take to keep her occupied for a while ?

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over a year ago


"I'll get some Dairylea Triangles in then, how many would it take to keep her occupied for a while ? "

About 3 I reckon. She is currently eyeing up my Dairylee Dunkers!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'll get some Dairylea Triangles in then, how many would it take to keep her occupied for a while ?

About 3 I reckon. She is currently eyeing up my Dairylee Dunkers! "

Greedy cat!

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By *ealArtfulDodgerMan
over a year ago

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"I'll get some Dairylea Triangles in then, how many would it take to keep her occupied for a while ?

About 3 I reckon. She is currently eyeing up my Dairylee Dunkers!

Greedy cat!"

Not at all following the thread yet... Hello all the same guys n gals.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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Ma ex misuss' cat would often finish off the dog's food as well. We wondered why the dog always wanted to eat ours

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over a year ago


"I'll get some Dairylea Triangles in then, how many would it take to keep her occupied for a while ?

About 3 I reckon. She is currently eyeing up my Dairylee Dunkers!

Greedy cat!

Not at all following the thread yet... Hello all the same guys n gals.

"

Welcome to the late thread.

There is no topic, just say whatever you want and generally just get involved.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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Anyway good folk, I'm off to get some shut eye, and shall leave Lorna and Tilly to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZqZ3is9tpk

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