FabSwingers.com forum: Disabilities

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Are there any people using fab who have disabilities and that is why they use fab..Mainly because they can’t get out and about or have hidden disabilities..

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

I have hidden disabilities, but that's not why I use fab...

I'm a swinger/poly and that's why I use fab... I just happen to be disabled. I'd hazard that is the same for most of us on fab who are disabled

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By *ysyphusMan
over a year ago

Starbase K-7

Me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have hidden disabilities, but that's not why I use fab...

I'm a swinger/poly and that's why I use fab... I just happen to be disabled. I'd hazard that is the same for most of us on fab who are disabled"

Hi what is a poly..I have aspergers.So that’s why I started to use it.To get more physical experience..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is a hidden disability?.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Something like autism or adhd or mental health issues

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By *iltopbearMan
over a year ago

Norfolk

I have Aspergers.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have Aspergers. "

And how does this affect you..Do you struggle with messaging

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I have hidden disabilities, but that's not why I use fab... I just happen to be disabled. I'd hazard that is the same for most of us on fab who are disabled"

This.

However, I am autistic. (Was diagnosed with Asperger's years ago, though it no longer exists as a separate diagnosis and is not a name I want to be associated with any way.)

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

It's not why I use fab but I have a few hidden disabilities.

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By *iltopbearMan
over a year ago

Norfolk

"I have Aspergers.

And how does this affect you..Do you struggle with messaging "

Yes, any conversation can be challenging, written or spoken.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have hidden disabilities, but that's not why I use fab... I just happen to be disabled. I'd hazard that is the same for most of us on fab who are disabled

This.

However, I am autistic. (Was diagnosed with Asperger's years ago, though it no longer exists as a separate diagnosis and is not a name I want to be associated with any way.)

I understand was just curious about how it affects people with messaging etc..I was diagnosed but it doesn’t bother me in the slightest..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Carlos thinks a lot of people in the Scottish forum have tourettes and a unhealthy liking for the whiskey. That's a rough bunch in there.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"What is a hidden disability?. "

It's a disability that isn't obvious by looking at a person. This can be a long term health condition, a chronic pain condition, a learning disability, a mental health condition, sensory or processing issues, being hard of hearing, visual impairment, etc.

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By *jorkishMan
over a year ago

Seaforth

"What is a hidden disability?.

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is depression classed as a hidden disability? If it is, then it's a yes from me. Use this site to try and make myself feel good inside.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I understand was just curious about how it affects people with messaging etc..I was diagnosed but it doesn’t bother me in the slightest.."

My main point was that asperger's is an outdated term and I can't believe some medical professionals are still using it.

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By *jorkishMan
over a year ago

Seaforth

"Is depression classed as a hidden disability? If it is, then it's a yes from me. Use this site to try and make myself feel good inside. "

Yes it is a hidden disability

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"Is depression classed as a hidden disability? If it is, then it's a yes from me. Use this site to try and make myself feel good inside. "

Yes, it is.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I understand was just curious about how it affects people with messaging etc..I was diagnosed but it doesn’t bother me in the slightest..

My main point was that asperger's is an outdated term and I can't believe some medical professionals are still using it.

So what term should they use for it.Am curious..I find people I’ve met with this condition to be absolutely lovely kind people who are a bit quirky if that is a correct analysis..

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"So what term should they use for it.Am curious..I find people I’ve met with this condition to be absolutely lovely kind people who are a bit quirky if that is a correct analysis.."

Autistic.

Aside from diagnostic reasons, Asperger was a Nazi collaborator.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Came here a long time before my diagnosis.

Managed to develop a lot of coping mechanisms that made/make me appear normal when on the club and dating scene.

Bloody exhausting and unauthentic though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So what term should they use for it.Am curious..I find people I’ve met with this condition to be absolutely lovely kind people who are a bit quirky if that is a correct analysis..

Autistic.

Aside from diagnostic reasons, Asperger was a Nazi collaborator."

Oh I never knew that.Very interesting

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Came here a long time before my diagnosis.

Managed to develop a lot of coping mechanisms that made/make me appear normal when on the club and dating scene.

Bloody exhausting and unauthentic though. "

I bet it was ..at least you progressed in life.It’s very tiring.Completely understand..Exhausting like you say

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"Aside from diagnostic reasons, Asperger was a Nazi collaborator.

Oh I never knew that.Very interesting "

Yeah, basically he helped the Nazis decide which children with apparent difficulties were worth keeping and which weren't. Those with traits which would later be called Asperger's survived, as they were considered just about "normal" enough to be of use.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Aside from diagnostic reasons, Asperger was a Nazi collaborator.

Oh I never knew that.Very interesting

Oh that’s very interesting to know..Terrible really..We are all normal,just some people are slightly different..World would be very strange if you are all the same.Thanks Will read up on it.Thank you.You must be quite well read in these matters.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"You must be quite well read in these matters."

Psychology is one of my special interests and my work often over-laps.

I'm also a slightly obsessive reader. So, it's an area where, for me, being autistic is a positive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I technically do, but I don't wish to share details. It's got nothing to do with me swinging though, other than it can hold me back unfortunately xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what term should they use for it.Am curious..I find people I’ve met with this condition to be absolutely lovely kind people who are a bit quirky if that is a correct analysis..

Autistic.

Aside from diagnostic reasons, Asperger was a Nazi collaborator."

I have children with an Aspergers diagnosis. It's still diagnosed in my neck of the woods. You can of course speak for your own preference. But don't speak for anyone with autism.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"So what term should they use for it.Am curious..I find people I’ve met with this condition to be absolutely lovely kind people who are a bit quirky if that is a correct analysis..

Autistic.

Aside from diagnostic reasons, Asperger was a Nazi collaborator.

I have children with an Aspergers diagnosis. It's still diagnosed in my neck of the woods. You can of course speak for your own preference. But don't speak for anyone with autism. "

It’s no longer an official diagnosis on its own though. It’s included in the ASD spectrum.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You must be quite well read in these matters.

Psychology is one of my special interests and my work often over-laps.

I'm also a slightly obsessive reader. So, it's an area where, for me, being autistic is a positive.

Thank you.It is a positive.And I’m glad you feel this way..I’m an avid reader too of deductive psychology books amongst others.Very interesting the human mind..Mindhunter ,john douglas,Robert reasler,paul britain,amongst others..Very clever and logical..

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

"I have hidden disabilities, but that's not why I use fab... I just happen to be disabled. I'd hazard that is the same for most of us on fab who are disabled

This.

However, I am autistic. (Was diagnosed with Asperger's years ago, though it no longer exists as a separate diagnosis and is not a name I want to be associated with any way.)

Yep this... I'm also autistic.

I like fab because I deal much better with textual communication, it gives me time to think over what I'm writing.

I make it clear on my profile that I'm autistic and I'm quite open about it in my communication, no subtext or hidden meaning in my messages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what term should they use for it.Am curious..I find people I’ve met with this condition to be absolutely lovely kind people who are a bit quirky if that is a correct analysis..

Autistic.

Aside from diagnostic reasons, Asperger was a Nazi collaborator.

I have children with an Aspergers diagnosis. It's still diagnosed in my neck of the woods. You can of course speak for your own preference. But don't speak for anyone with autism.

It’s no longer an official diagnosis on its own though. It’s included in the ASD spectrum. "

Aspergers was removed from the DSM-5 Manual but the NHS uses the ICD. It's thought that when the ICD is updated it will also remove Aspergers. It does depend where and by whom someone was diagnosed in the UK. And of course there still will be thousands of people who have been diagnosed with Aspergers.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

"I have children with an Aspergers diagnosis. It's still diagnosed in my neck of the woods. You can of course speak for your own preference. But don't speak for anyone with autism. "

In the UK diagnosis from 2013 depended on if they were using the DSM-V or ICD10.

From the 1st of January this year the ICD11 was released which removed the diagnosis of A**ers.

The dismissal of the term has been widely accepted by the autistic community at large, not just because of him being a nazi who focused a large part of his works on eugenics, but because of the fact functioning labels (of which a***ers was) are actually damaging and are often a blocker to support that autistics need.

No, one autistic doesn't speak for all, but many of us aren't comfortable with an allistic person tone policing something that affects us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have children with an Aspergers diagnosis. It's still diagnosed in my neck of the woods. You can of course speak for your own preference. But don't speak for anyone with autism.

In the UK diagnosis from 2013 depended on if they were using the DSM-V or ICD10.

From the 1st of January this year the ICD11 was released which removed the diagnosis of A**ers.

No, one autistic doesn't speak for all, but many of us aren't comfortable with an allistic person tone policing something that affects us."

I had missed that change (a matter of weeks). I know several adults and teens with an aspergers diagnosis and I'm on a couple of Facebook groups. I've also joined a parent group and some of the parents have ASD also. I've not seen any of them speak or write about the diagnosis as being damaging or a blocker. If you have some info, I'd be grateful. Not sure what your last sentence meant?

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I have children with an Aspergers diagnosis. It's still diagnosed in my neck of the woods. You can of course speak for your own preference. But don't speak for anyone with autism. "

I believe if you read my post, I was saying that it was medical practitioners who should not be using the term.

As someone who is actually autistic, I would not think to speak for 'anyone with autism.' However, I don't see a problem in sharing information on why many many people are happy to see the end of asperger's as a separate diagnosis.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"In the UK diagnosis from 2013 depended on if they were using the DSM-V or ICD10.

From the 1st of January this year the ICD11 was released which removed the diagnosis of A**ers.

No, one autistic doesn't speak for all, but many of us aren't comfortable with an allistic person tone policing something that affects us."

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

I have chronic pain/fatigue.

I don't really go anywhere to meet anyone, so that's why I'm here.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I know several adults and teens with an aspergers diagnosis and I'm on a couple of Facebook groups. I've also joined a parent group and some of the parents have ASD also. I've not seen any of them speak or write about the diagnosis as being damaging or a blocker. If you have some info, I'd be grateful. Not sure what your last sentence meant?"

There have been numerous *massive* surveys done (even by the hateful Autism Speaks) and they have seen overwhelmingly that those who are actually autistic do not want to be associated with the term Aspergers.

I'd be interested to know what fb groups you're in if this is news to you, or you have not come across any repudiation of functional labels.

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By *oah VailMan
over a year ago

Dover

I’m another autistic. Something I only learned about in my 40s as it became apparent to my son’s teachers that he was on spectrum.

I find written communication much easier than face to face, but it’s not really held me back. Aside from difficulties socially as a teen, overall being autistic has been a huge benefit to me. I owe my living to the abilities I possess because of it.

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By *akie32Man
over a year ago

winchester

I amdisabled, mostly hidden ones, or ones that i do my best to hide, life changing ones, but in no way is that why im on fab, ive had anumber of long term girlfriends over the years, and some have swung with me, im good at hiding things so most play mates wouldnt even know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have children with an Aspergers diagnosis. It's still diagnosed in my neck of the woods. You can of course speak for your own preference. But don't speak for anyone with autism.

I believe if you read my post, I was saying that it was medical practitioners who should not be using the term.

I didn't read the post that way. I've worked hard with my kids for them to accept their diagnosis and embrace it, I guess I am quite defensive on their behalf. I didn't mean to assume how those with autism would feel. As I said in another post, it's just not something I've come across.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd be interested to know what fb groups you're in if this is news to you, or you have not come across any repudiation of functional labels. "

I've just left one (can't remember the name) but still on Spectrumy. Also one on Sensory issues. Ones aimed at parents. I thought I caught most posts but obviously not. I'm a lone parent so I can't keep up with everything.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

"Hi what is a poly.."

Poly (or polyamoury for its full term) is where you have and maintain more than one committed relationship

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I've just left one (can't remember the name) but still on Spectrumy. Also one on Sensory issues. Ones aimed at parents. I thought I caught most posts but obviously not. I'm a lone parent so I can't keep up with everything. "

Yep, keeping up feels like an unending task!

You might find the groups in this article of interest:

https://www.andnextcomesl.com/2019/03/educational-autism-groups.html

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By *ysyphusMan
over a year ago

Starbase K-7

"What is a hidden disability?. "

One you can't see. Some have been mentioned, but others can include heart problems, COPD, CMT. They are not all behavioural or MH related.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep, keeping up feels like an unending task!

You might find the groups in this article of interest:

https://www.andnextcomesl.com/2019/03/educational-autism-groups.html"

Ah thank you, will have a look.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm here because I'm looking for no strings fun with like minded people.

The fact I'm paraplegic is unrelated.

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By *ysyphusMan
over a year ago

Starbase K-7

"I'm here because I'm looking for no strings fun with like minded people.

The fact I'm paraplegic is unrelated."

Beautiful lady, and sexy wheels!

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By *avie65Man
over a year ago

In the west.

The Scottish Government have an advert about autism running on STV.

Hopefully things are changing and people will become more accepting of others.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I have a hidden disability, but that's not why I use fab at all.

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