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"I hope there's a special place reserved in hell for scammers where they work hard for years, save a load of money only to have it taken from them in one phone call, for all eternity . My mum has been scammed twice and another time was "persuaded" to sign up for a subscription book service by an unscrupulous company that took advantage of the fact that she's easily confused. " OMG ..I hope that place exists too | |||
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"I hope there's a special place reserved in hell for scammers where they work hard for years, save a load of money only to have it taken from them in one phone call, for all eternity . My mum has been scammed twice and another time was "persuaded" to sign up for a subscription book service by an unscrupulous company that took advantage of the fact that she's easily confused. OMG ..I hope that place exists too "I'm amazed at how many otherwise savvy people are taken in by scams too. It shows it could happen to any of us | |||
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"I'm amazed at how many otherwise savvy people are taken in by scams too. It shows it could happen to any of us" I'm savvy, and got £250k from a non existent long lost relative in Uganda 
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"HI my lovelies. Just want to make sure everyone’s aware of a new (to me anyway) scam out there. Today whilst on the way to the STP I had a WhatsApp from my (daughter) saying she’d water damaged her phone and that this was her new number. I thought nothing of it and we chatted sporadically for a couple of hours. ‘She’ then said that she had a couple of invoices to pay but couldn’t as she couldn’t get into her online banking and could I pay a couple of invoices for ‘her’ and she’d return the money tomorrow. They totalled over £2.5k I said sure and asked for the details - then tried to call her. I just got white noise. Smelled a rat then - scrolled up and realised no names had been mentioned. Asked her to name her siblings and uncle - no response. Spoke to my daughter and it was an obvious scam. Just thought I’d let everyone know about it as it seemed highly plausible at first. Just glad I smelled a rat in time. If you have gullible friends/family please let them know. Hugs Peachy " I’d love someone to ask me to loan them £2,500….as if I had that amount! Be lucky to get £2.50 out of me lol | |||
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"I'm amazed at how many otherwise savvy people are taken in by scams too. It shows it could happen to any of us I'm savvy, and got £250k from a non existent long lost relative in Uganda
This is not true^ " isn't it! You had me going there for a second | |||
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"I hope there's a special place reserved in hell for scammers where they work hard for years, save a load of money only to have it taken from them in one phone call, for all eternity . My mum has been scammed twice and another time was "persuaded" to sign up for a subscription book service by an unscrupulous company that took advantage of the fact that she's easily confused. OMG ..I hope that place exists too
I'm amazed at how many otherwise savvy people are taken in by scams too. It shows it could happen to any of us"True. Did you watch tinder swindler? Unless we find ways to track these people down and file charges, it will keep happening. As things stand, it's hard to track these people down. | |||
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"I hope there's a special place reserved in hell for scammers where they work hard for years, save a load of money only to have it taken from them in one phone call, for all eternity . My mum has been scammed twice and another time was "persuaded" to sign up for a subscription book service by an unscrupulous company that took advantage of the fact that she's easily confused. OMG ..I hope that place exists too
I'm amazed at how many otherwise savvy people are taken in by scams too. It shows it could happen to any of us
True. Did you watch tinder swindler? Unless we find ways to track these people down and file charges, it will keep happening. As things stand, it's hard to track these people down."No I didn't I keep reading references to it. Even Aldi are using it in their ads | |||
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"I'm amazed at how many otherwise savvy people are taken in by scams too. It shows it could happen to any of us I'm savvy, and got £250k from a non existent long lost relative in Uganda
This is not true^
isn't it! You had me going there for a second "Do you wanna invest in my wind up mobile phone app?  | |||
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"HI my lovelies. Just want to make sure everyone’s aware of a new (to me anyway) scam out there. Today whilst on the way to the STP I had a WhatsApp from my (daughter) saying she’d water damaged her phone and that this was her new number. I thought nothing of it and we chatted sporadically for a couple of hours. ‘She’ then said that she had a couple of invoices to pay but couldn’t as she couldn’t get into her online banking and could I pay a couple of invoices for ‘her’ and she’d return the money tomorrow. They totalled over £2.5k I said sure and asked for the details - then tried to call her. I just got white noise. Smelled a rat then - scrolled up and realised no names had been mentioned. Asked her to name her siblings and uncle - no response. Spoke to my daughter and it was an obvious scam. Just thought I’d let everyone know about it as it seemed highly plausible at first. Just glad I smelled a rat in time. If you have gullible friends/family please let them know. Hugs Peachy " . I first heard about this scam about a month ago on a Facebook group I am on the lady got conned out of £1500 just before Christmas.She said the bank she is with we’re very good and she got her £1500 back within 2-3 weeks | |||
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isn't it! You had me going there for a second
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.... point is even from a friend both myself and others realised and asked him first. Xxxxx Suzi | |||
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"I'm amazed at how many otherwise savvy people are taken in by scams too. It shows it could happen to any of us I'm savvy, and got £250k from a non existent long lost relative in Uganda
This is not true^
isn't it! You had me going there for a second
Do you wanna invest in my wind up mobile phone app?
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"HI my lovelies. Just want to make sure everyone’s aware of a new (to me anyway) scam out there. Today whilst on the way to the STP I had a WhatsApp from my (daughter) saying she’d water damaged her phone and that this was her new number. I thought nothing of it and we chatted sporadically for a couple of hours. ‘She’ then said that she had a couple of invoices to pay but couldn’t as she couldn’t get into her online banking and could I pay a couple of invoices for ‘her’ and she’d return the money tomorrow. They totalled over £2.5k I said sure and asked for the details - then tried to call her. I just got white noise. Smelled a rat then - scrolled up and realised no names had been mentioned. Asked her to name her siblings and uncle - no response. Spoke to my daughter and it was an obvious scam. Just thought I’d let everyone know about it as it seemed highly plausible at first. Just glad I smelled a rat in time. If you have gullible friends/family please let them know. Hugs Peachy " Read about this thanks for the heads up! keep safe lovely! | |||
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"Remember your email providers are responsible as it's them whom are supposed to stop their users receiving suspicious emails. If for instance it doesn't provide the security and privacy. You receive suspicious emails because of this they are supposed to stop it so you don't receive them..." These aren't emails. They're text messages or WhatsApp messages to your mobile phone. | |||
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"Remember your email providers are responsible as it's them whom are supposed to stop their users receiving suspicious emails. If for instance it doesn't provide the security and privacy. You receive suspicious emails because of this they are supposed to stop it so you don't receive them... These aren't emails. They're text messages or WhatsApp messages to your mobile phone. " Then it still the persons network provider responsibility as they have shared your number via marketing research they say they don't but anything that you use to give some kind of information on gets shared without any acknowledgement | |||
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"Remember your email providers are responsible as it's them whom are supposed to stop their users receiving suspicious emails. If for instance it doesn't provide the security and privacy. You receive suspicious emails because of this they are supposed to stop it so you don't receive them... These aren't emails. They're text messages or WhatsApp messages to your mobile phone. Then it still the persons network provider responsibility as they have shared your number via marketing research they say they don't but anything that you use to give some kind of information on gets shared without any acknowledgement" Mobile phone numbers can probably be guessed relatively easily. Also it's possible that people unwittingly give their number to scammers (such as elderly people who might not identify certain phone calls or texts as dodgy). It's not always going to be a network provider that has sold your number to scammers either - any organisation you sign up to might sell your data (but nowadays they can only legally do this with consent). | |||
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"Remember your email providers are responsible as it's them whom are supposed to stop their users receiving suspicious emails. If for instance it doesn't provide the security and privacy. You receive suspicious emails because of this they are supposed to stop it so you don't receive them... These aren't emails. They're text messages or WhatsApp messages to your mobile phone. Then it still the persons network provider responsibility as they have shared your number via marketing research they say they don't but anything that you use to give some kind of information on gets shared without any acknowledgement Mobile phone numbers can probably be guessed relatively easily. Also it's possible that people unwittingly give their number to scammers (such as elderly people who might not identify certain phone calls or texts as dodgy). It's not always going to be a network provider that has sold your number to scammers either - any organisation you sign up to might sell your data (but nowadays they can only legally do this with consent)." Everyone's numbers floats around and scammers hack those companies information gets leaked... You always get an option to opt out of marketing research some people don't realise that or at what time as they are quick to just accept by clicking the link so they get whatever it is done quickly  | |||
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"Remember your email providers are responsible as it's them whom are supposed to stop their users receiving suspicious emails. If for instance it doesn't provide the security and privacy. You receive suspicious emails because of this they are supposed to stop it so you don't receive them... These aren't emails. They're text messages or WhatsApp messages to your mobile phone. Then it still the persons network provider responsibility as they have shared your number via marketing research they say they don't but anything that you use to give some kind of information on gets shared without any acknowledgement Mobile phone numbers can probably be guessed relatively easily. Also it's possible that people unwittingly give their number to scammers (such as elderly people who might not identify certain phone calls or texts as dodgy). It's not always going to be a network provider that has sold your number to scammers either - any organisation you sign up to might sell your data (but nowadays they can only legally do this with consent). Everyone's numbers floats around and scammers hack those companies information gets leaked... You always get an option to opt out of marketing research some people don't realise that or at what time as they are quick to just accept by clicking the link so they get whatever it is done quickly "Or people like my Dad (82 with dementia) don't have a clue about any of this, don't understand what they're ticking or not ticking and get taken for a ride. For example, staff in the EE shop encouraged him to select a really expensive mobile phone package that he clearly did not need (or understand). But they get commission. I can't stop him from going out and when we find out about £40-a-month phone packages, it takes all sorts of arguing to get them to change it without them trying to charge more for ending contracts etc. This is despite me being named on his account and a record of him having dementia being placed on file. | |||
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"Remember your email providers are responsible as it's them whom are supposed to stop their users receiving suspicious emails. If for instance it doesn't provide the security and privacy. You receive suspicious emails because of this they are supposed to stop it so you don't receive them... These aren't emails. They're text messages or WhatsApp messages to your mobile phone. Then it still the persons network provider responsibility as they have shared your number via marketing research they say they don't but anything that you use to give some kind of information on gets shared without any acknowledgement Mobile phone numbers can probably be guessed relatively easily. Also it's possible that people unwittingly give their number to scammers (such as elderly people who might not identify certain phone calls or texts as dodgy). It's not always going to be a network provider that has sold your number to scammers either - any organisation you sign up to might sell your data (but nowadays they can only legally do this with consent). Everyone's numbers floats around and scammers hack those companies information gets leaked... You always get an option to opt out of marketing research some people don't realise that or at what time as they are quick to just accept by clicking the link so they get whatever it is done quickly
Or people like my Dad (82 with dementia) don't have a clue about any of this, don't understand what they're ticking or not ticking and get taken for a ride. For example, staff in the EE shop encouraged him to select a really expensive mobile phone package that he clearly did not need (or understand). But they get commission. I can't stop him from going out and when we find out about £40-a-month phone packages, it takes all sorts of arguing to get them to change it without them trying to charge more for ending contracts etc. This is despite me being named on his account and a record of him having dementia being placed on file. "As you've put your father has dementia even if he has taken out the deal or agreement it is invalid because of his incapability you'd find a lawyer would be very helpful and the contract would be terminated without any charges as a contract a person should be able to understand sadly your father mental health effects his capability to make choices | |||
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"^^^Try telling the above to EE. He'd have paid thousands of pounds for hearing aids, if the hearing aid shop people weren't so honest and caring. Instead of selling him another new thing, they phone me. He was nearly encouraged to spend hundreds of pounds on new glasses by a high street optician but when I phoned them, they admitted his prescription hadn't changed and they'd only "recommended" spending £400 because his current glasses are scratched. Bearing in mind how many high street opticians there are, I can't tell every single branch on Merseyside not to sell him things without phoning me first. Getting money back after the fact is one thing, but a) I have to find out/realise he's spent money first and b) he is so lacking in money that if he did spend £400 on glasses, he'd have no money for his bills/food. The latest thing someone sold him (that he doesn't need to buy/can't afford) is a funeral plan. I think he got his money back, but it's hard to know!! It's far too easy for elderly people to effectively be scammed by genuine businesses (like the glasses or excessive phone contracts), so what do you think happens when rogue companies/actual scammers get in touch?! " Wow I'd also have a social worker on board as it seems like it is way out of hand and your father has been taken advantage of they'll know the best move even though I have some ideas. | |||
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"I'm amazed at how many otherwise savvy people are taken in by scams too. It shows it could happen to any of us I'm savvy, and got £250k from a non existent long lost relative in Uganda
This is not true^ "My brother before he passed away . Had a similar type of scam . The email etc even gave a London solicitors address and telephone number. He was staying at my house at the time. The letter heading showed correct address in London . But a different telephone number as looked up on web. Contacted web listed on internet. Did actually speak with a solicitor at address. Forward email etc . He was pissed off . I also phoned number on email letter heading. Person on phone wanted my bank details. Said I would send in email. Never did. Solicitors did get back and say details handed to police. | |||
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Oh really, told the scammer all kinds of bad things, they listened for a while and hung up.
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"Remember your email providers are responsible as it's them whom are supposed to stop their users receiving suspicious emails. If for instance it doesn't provide the security and privacy. You receive suspicious emails because of this they are supposed to stop it so you don't receive them... These aren't emails. They're text messages or WhatsApp messages to your mobile phone. " Yeah - mine was a WhatsApp message. Just lucky for me I smelled a rat as they claimed to be the oldest - who’s very well off. The youngest two are teenagers so obviously always asking me for money! Not 2.5 grand though to be fair. Scary thing is - if ‘she’ had asked for a couple of hundred instead I’d probably have sent it without thinking twice! It was just the amount which made me examine the whole conversation and realise no names had been mentioned. Apologies if some people believe that makes me ‘stupid’. | |||
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"Remember your email providers are responsible as it's them whom are supposed to stop their users receiving suspicious emails. If for instance it doesn't provide the security and privacy. You receive suspicious emails because of this they are supposed to stop it so you don't receive them... These aren't emails. They're text messages or WhatsApp messages to your mobile phone. Yeah - mine was a WhatsApp message. Just lucky for me I smelled a rat as they claimed to be the oldest - who’s very well off. The youngest two are teenagers so obviously always asking me for money! Not 2.5 grand though to be fair. Scary thing is - if ‘she’ had asked for a couple of hundred instead I’d probably have sent it without thinking twice! It was just the amount which made me examine the whole conversation and realise no names had been mentioned. Apologies if some people believe that makes me ‘stupid’. " Maybe set up a safe word like someone mentioned above. Or a nickname so you can check it's them next time.  | |||
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"Remember your email providers are responsible as it's them whom are supposed to stop their users receiving suspicious emails. If for instance it doesn't provide the security and privacy. You receive suspicious emails because of this they are supposed to stop it so you don't receive them... These aren't emails. They're text messages or WhatsApp messages to your mobile phone. Yeah - mine was a WhatsApp message. Just lucky for me I smelled a rat as they claimed to be the oldest - who’s very well off. The youngest two are teenagers so obviously always asking me for money! Not 2.5 grand though to be fair. Scary thing is - if ‘she’ had asked for a couple of hundred instead I’d probably have sent it without thinking twice! It was just the amount which made me examine the whole conversation and realise no names had been mentioned. Apologies if some people believe that makes me ‘stupid’. " It doesn't make you look stupid. Thousands of people are scammed daily, it's not until you know someone personally who's had it happen to them that you realise how it affects them and how it can happen to almost anybody. My mum was frightened they would come and attack her in her house. I'm not a violent person but if I could have got my hands on them... | |||
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"The folk who have dementia I can understand getting scammed, but surely receiving a text that states it's from your eldest or whomever but doesn't mention their name sets the alarm bells off? Frank" Not necessarily. Our son sometimes refers to himself as "your son" and calls me "mother" he is also well known for losing or changing his phone and using someone else's to message from. If I had a message saying "Mother, this is your son I've lost my phone" I'd believe it was him. It probably wouldn't occur to me until later to query how he'd got my number | |||
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"The folk who have dementia I can understand getting scammed, but surely receiving a text that states it's from your eldest or whomever but doesn't mention their name sets the alarm bells off? Frank Not necessarily. Our son sometimes refers to himself as "your son" and calls me "mother" he is also well known for losing or changing his phone and using someone else's to message from. If I had a message saying "Mother, this is your son I've lost my phone" I'd believe it was him. It probably wouldn't occur to me until later to query how he'd got my number" That's actually a very good point! In the olden days I memorised numbers but these days I'd be lost without my phone.  | |||
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"The folk who have dementia I can understand getting scammed, but surely receiving a text that states it's from your eldest or whomever but doesn't mention their name sets the alarm bells off? Frank Not necessarily. Our son sometimes refers to himself as "your son" and calls me "mother" he is also well known for losing or changing his phone and using someone else's to message from. If I had a message saying "Mother, this is your son I've lost my phone" I'd believe it was him. It probably wouldn't occur to me until later to query how he'd got my number That's actually a very good point! In the olden days I memorised numbers but these days I'd be lost without my phone. "The only phone number I know off the top of my head is the first number we had when I was 10. You had to say it very clearly and in a posh voice when you picked the phone up | |||
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"I had a WhatsApp from my (daughter) saying she’d water damaged her phone and that this was her new number. I thought nothing of it and we chatted sporadically for a couple of hours. ‘She’ then said that she had a couple of invoices to pay but couldn’t as she couldn’t get into her online banking and could I pay a couple of invoices for ‘her’ and she’d return the money tomorrow. They totalled over £2.5k " | |||
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"A work colleague had this sent to her from her son she guessed it wasn't him when they said they were just leaving work and she knew he was at the gym. They have set up a safe word now as he travels the world alot and she needs 2 know its him " Brilliant idea | |||
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