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By *agic.M OP   Man
over a year ago

Orpington

There has been some back and forth lately, on the forum, regarding men not understanding how frustrating it can be as a woman on fab ( the hundreds of dick pics, the constant harassment in the messages, the abuse...), or vice versa how women don't understand what's it like as a man on fab ( being constantly ignored or rejected, never being good enough, not being anyone's type...). What if for 24 hours you could swap with a fellow fabster (of the opposite sex) so you can better understand what it feels like ...who would you choose? And what would you hope to experience?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd choose you OP. I'd love to see your inbox of all the women swooning over you and your pictures

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No thanks

Both sides are shit

I'll stick to the one I know

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By *agic.M OP   Man
over a year ago

Orpington


"I'd choose you OP. I'd love to see your inbox of all the women swooning over you and your pictures "

I have 3 messages...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd choose you OP. I'd love to see your inbox of all the women swooning over you and your pictures

I have 3 messages... "

Ah, more than me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Technically I all ready do as I am in the middle

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By *agic.M OP   Man
over a year ago

Orpington


"Technically I all ready do as I am in the middle "

You get the best (or worst) of both "worlds"

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

Very quiet I would imagine.

I'd like guys to receive messages that they deem offensive on a regular basis so that get a feel for what it's like being a woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Technically I all ready do as I am in the middle

You get the best (or worst) of both "worlds" "

Yip ha ha lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On my singles profile I have, all I wanted to do was meet women. My inbox has never been so empty and my views were next to nothing, yes I sent winks and messages but rarely got a reply.

Now I have opened it up to men too.

Danish x

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By *adyBugsWoman
over a year ago

cognito


"I'd choose you OP. I'd love to see your inbox of all the women swooning over you and your pictures

I have 3 messages... "

3 more than me

I’d message you but I’m too chicken

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know, I think there are even some women on here who don't get overwhelmed with messages but even so I wouldn't want to. I'm shit at keeping up with the messages I do get

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By *urio77Man
over a year ago

northampton


"Very quiet I would imagine.

I'd like guys to receive messages that they deem offensive on a regular basis so that get a feel for what it's like being a woman "
deem offensive is a grey area. It’s how you take it I suppose. Although I can well imagine the comments that you receive. Even an offensive comment would be greatly received. I’ve got shit going on with my body but I’m proud of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh go on then, I'll do day as Mekell and a day as FoolHardy.

Be something akin to Freaky Friday

If you'll allow me free reign afterall

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By *ily WhiteWoman
over a year ago

?

I've done cold calling...I imagine it would be a bit like that

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By *il sub princessWoman
over a year ago

West Midlands


"I've done cold calling...I imagine it would be a bit like that "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd choose you OP. I'd love to see your inbox of all the women swooning over you and your pictures

I have 3 messages...

3 more than me

I’d message you but I’m too chicken"

Don't be 'chicken' to message those you may wish to connect with, we shouldn't fear one a other.

I do believe if we actively break learnt dynamics, internalised perceptions would be challenged and found untrue.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

No. I like to divide my time between my inbox and the forum. As a guy I can easily do that.

I'd lose my favorite's messages in a sea of peen if I was a woman.

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By *agic.M OP   Man
over a year ago

Orpington


"I'd choose you OP. I'd love to see your inbox of all the women swooning over you and your pictures

I have 3 messages...

3 more than me

I’d message you but I’m too chicken"

Chickens are cute

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By *adyBugsWoman
over a year ago

cognito


"I'd choose you OP. I'd love to see your inbox of all the women swooning over you and your pictures

I have 3 messages...

3 more than me

I’d message you but I’m too chicken

Don't be 'chicken' to message those you may wish to connect with, we shouldn't fear one a other.

I do believe if we actively break learnt dynamics, internalised perceptions would be challenged and found untrue."

I did it

Thanks for the pep talk!

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By *iggyStarjumpsMan
over a year ago

Stockport

Id block everyone and then read men's profiles and message the ones who caught my eye..

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By *adyBugsWoman
over a year ago

cognito


"I'd choose you OP. I'd love to see your inbox of all the women swooning over you and your pictures

I have 3 messages...

3 more than me

I’d message you but I’m too chicken

Chickens are cute "

I couldn’t find the chicken

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By *agic.M OP   Man
over a year ago

Orpington


"Id block everyone and then read men's profiles and message the ones who caught my eye.. "

You'd be my type of woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd choose you OP. I'd love to see your inbox of all the women swooning over you and your pictures

I have 3 messages...

3 more than me

I’d message you but I’m too chicken

Don't be 'chicken' to message those you may wish to connect with, we shouldn't fear one a other.

I do believe if we actively break learnt dynamics, internalised perceptions would be challenged and found untrue.

I did it

Thanks for the pep talk!"

;) this made me smile

Go you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Id block everyone and then read men's profiles and message the ones who caught my eye.. "

A favoured approach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh go on then, I'll do day as Mekell and a day as FoolHardy.

Be something akin to Freaky Friday

If you'll allow me free reign afterall "

Careful with it though, it's my only body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh go on then, I'll do day as Mekell and a day as FoolHardy.

Be something akin to Freaky Friday

If you'll allow me free reign afterall

Careful with it though, it's my only body "

It'll be my mind that will win them all - however, once faced with constant rejection, being ignored, and harsh words I may need some aftercare in the form of warm drinks and soft furnishings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't want to be a man on Fab. For all the annoying parts as a woman, at least there's something going on. I'd get bored and give up quickly if I wasn't getting any interaction back.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"I wouldn't want to be a man on Fab. For all the annoying parts as a woman, at least there's something going on. I'd get bored and give up quickly if I wasn't getting any interaction back. "

And that's when you find the forums

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By *boy1994Man
over a year ago

stoke on trent

It must be so easy being a woman I’d love the attention you get it’s a real kick in the dick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must be so easy being a woman I’d love the attention you get it’s a real kick in the dick "

I wanna come on those fabulous tits

I'm going to leave a handprint on your ass

Love the collar, lead you round like an animal

Yeah. It's wonderful being a woman here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh go on then, I'll do day as Mekell and a day as FoolHardy.

Be something akin to Freaky Friday

If you'll allow me free reign afterall

Careful with it though, it's my only body

It'll be my mind that will win them all - however, once faced with constant rejection, being ignored, and harsh words I may need some aftercare in the form of warm drinks and soft furnishings."

I think that's sadly true for many guys here.

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By *boy1994Man
over a year ago

stoke on trent

I’ll do anything you like u obviously a filthy bastard like me I’ll fuck you like a dog whilst your making cow noises

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ll do anything you like u obviously a filthy bastard like me I’ll fuck you like a dog whilst your making cow noises "

Great advert for blokes that!

Or are you trying to be ironic(doubt it)

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By *organ DeanWoman
over a year ago

Belfast

I would swap with you just so I could see what photos/videos are in your private stash

Not even gonna pretend otherwise

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By *hunderace...Man
over a year ago

Dudley


"I’ll do anything you like u obviously a filthy bastard like me I’ll fuck you like a dog whilst your making cow noises "

Might bring up objections from the RSPCA in the current climate...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must be so easy being a woman I’d love the attention you get it’s a real kick in the dick

I wanna come on those fabulous tits

I'm going to leave a handprint on your ass

Love the collar, lead you round like an animal

Yeah. It's wonderful being a woman here. "

I'll beat you like the dog you are

When's it my turn hoe

I got you dog food

All recent messages.

Happy fabbing all

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

A pain in the hole for both

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

I've had experience of both sides as you get much of the same as a crossdresser on here from men as women do albeit probably not in the same proportions.

I've seen the way men often send dick pics as a come on and then send another as a fuck you when you tell them no.

I've been threatened, begged, and asked some friggin bizarre stuff even by my own standards and its not pleasant at all.

Saying that, there are some decent blokes I've spoken to from the forums so as the saying goes, not all men.

As a man when I had a male profile, I've been ignored by people I've tried to interact with and on a few occasions, that happened with people I'd regularly chat to as a crossdresser and have spoken to both via pm and away from fab too, that was an eye opener.

Sadly I can't have a male profile alongside a crossdresser one even though that's how I present 99% of the time.....rules is rules.

My experience on here IS more positive as a crossdresser so that's the gender I choose to stay as.

Maybe there would be a few things learned by both genders if they had to spend a day on fab as the opposite gender and maybe if it ever happened there would be a better understanding of what each gender has to deal with and probably a much better experience would come from that.

The upshot of my experience is that I can see both genders point of view but also realise that both genders need to listen better to what the other has to say about being on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being a guy on fabs for around 2 years I just ended up in the forums now. Don’t try to meet anymore as the guy to girl ratio is too much, it’s like winning the lottery l. So I just sit back and enjoy the forums. I think most women would hate being a male on here due to the lack of attention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd be too busy playing with my new willy to care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely not.

I’m sam tender… why in the world would I wanna be anyone else?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolutely not.

I’m sam tender… why in the world would I wanna be anyone else? "

So you could have sex with Sam Tender obvs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't get hundreds of dick pics, or harassment and abuse.

So I'll stick with being me thanks.

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By *urio77Man
over a year ago

northampton


"It must be so easy being a woman I’d love the attention you get it’s a real kick in the dick

I wanna come on those fabulous tits

I'm going to leave a handprint on your ass

Love the collar, lead you round like an animal

Yeah. It's wonderful being a woman here.

I'll beat you like the dog you are

When's it my turn hoe

I got you dog food

All recent messages.

Happy fabbing all

"
it disgusts me as a man reading these messages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolutely not.

I’m sam tender… why in the world would I wanna be anyone else?

So you could have sex with Sam Tender obvs"

No thanks.

I’ve seen the size of his beautiful penis in the flesh!

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

I would swap with Shag and have lots of fun In the mens hotpics as a muscle exhibitionist, he can deal with his inbox when we swap back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've done cold calling...I imagine it would be a bit like that "

Pretty much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Technically I all ready do as I am in the middle "

You show off!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love this. Love to try it. I’d make a bad man lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love this. Love to try it. I’d make a bad man lol x"

Define 'bad'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love this. Love to try it. I’d make a bad man lol x

Define 'bad'. "

I’ll leave that to the imagination lol

Even better if hubby turns into woman-I’d ruin him lol xx

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By *onzoDog74Man
over a year ago

Cheshire

I’m caring and sensitive. Cool and clever too. You girls should message me.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

.

I reckon I would do great as a guy on here, I honestly don't think the rejection would bother me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would be interesting to see exactly what kind of depraved message you would get. I would imagine a lot of them would be full of nearly reportable obscenity. On the inheritance hand it would be a refreshing change for women to be using my inbox for a day - they'd have plenty time to relax and go about whatever they want to do with only the odd "i know your straight but...." guy offering services they don't require and messages from people they actually want to converse with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d hate to get abuse and/or loads of rubbish messages. I’ll stick to being me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’d hate to get abuse and/or loads of rubbish messages. I’ll stick to being me "

Lol. So true. Some are nice though x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would be interesting to see exactly what kind of depraved message you would get. I would imagine a lot of them would be full of nearly reportable obscenity. On the inheritance hand it would be a refreshing change for women to be using my inbox for a day - they'd have plenty time to relax and go about whatever they want to do with only the odd "i know your straight but...." guy offering services they don't require and messages from people they actually want to converse with."

Christ my phone keeps letting me down - other hand turned into inheritance???? Mental

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

If the people on the forum are “not” the issue as we all send polite messages and know how to talk to people, who exactly is this meant to be a lesson for?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d happily swap ! I do get some interesting messages

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It must be so easy being a woman I’d love the attention you get it’s a real kick in the dick

I wanna come on those fabulous tits

I'm going to leave a handprint on your ass

Love the collar, lead you round like an animal

Yeah. It's wonderful being a woman here.

I'll beat you like the dog you are

When's it my turn hoe

I got you dog food

All recent messages.

Happy fabbing all

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the people on the forum are “not” the issue as we all send polite messages and know how to talk to people, who exactly is this meant to be a lesson for?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd be too busy playing with my new willy to care."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love this. Love to try it. I’d make a bad man lol x

Define 'bad'.

I’ll leave that to the imagination lol

Even better if hubby turns into woman-I’d ruin him lol xx"

.

I don't doubt he'd love it.

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By *agic.M OP   Man
over a year ago

Orpington


"If the people on the forum are “not” the issue as we all send polite messages and know how to talk to people, who exactly is this meant to be a lesson for?"

...just because I don't send abusive messages and harass women on fab, does not mean I understand what they are going through on this website. Just because a woman on the forums says she understands how tough it is for a man on fab, doesn't mean she knows what it feels like to be constantly ignored or rejected (even if you do send polite messages).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was a woman for a day I can think of way more exciting things to do than go online

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would be interesting to see exactly what kind of depraved message you would get. I would imagine a lot of them would be full of nearly reportable obscenity. On the inheritance hand it would be a refreshing change for women to be using my inbox for a day - they'd have plenty time to relax and go about whatever they want to do with only the odd "i know your straight but...." guy offering services they don't require and messages from people they actually want to converse with."

You can see examples that Bellaseas and I have received on this thread. I think I would find it pretty depressing having messages ignored and deleted if I had a man's account.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

As a bi guy, I’ve got a good idea

The low effort messages

The gross messages

The WTF messages

And even when you find a good one, they just do stuff that makes you sigh in disgust

Told a guy I would hook up with somewhat regularly that I had covid and was bed ridden

Came back to like 30 messages in detail how he could come over and just use me if he wanted. How his balls were full and needed emptying

I’ve got covid man. I’m literally just a piece of meat to you aren’t I? Couldn’t care less if I’m dying in bed, you just need to get your rocks off?

I think that’s one thing straight guys never see. It’s gross

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a bi guy, I’ve got a good idea

The low effort messages

The gross messages

The WTF messages

And even when you find a good one, they just do stuff that makes you sigh in disgust

Told a guy I would hook up with somewhat regularly that I had covid and was bed ridden

Came back to like 30 messages in detail how he could come over and just use me if he wanted. How his balls were full and needed emptying

I’ve got covid man. I’m literally just a piece of meat to you aren’t I? Couldn’t care less if I’m dying in bed, you just need to get your rocks off?

I think that’s one thing straight guys never see. It’s gross "

Yeeeeeew!!! Phwoar come on love, my balls need emptying.

How could you refuse dude?

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

Don't really need to "want" to know, each side tells the other what it's like multiple times per day anyway. I feel I know exactly what it's like for from multiple angles at this point, almost as if I had loved through it!

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By *edsmudgeMan
over a year ago

oxford


"On my singles profile I have, all I wanted to do was meet women. My inbox has never been so empty and my views were next to nothing, yes I sent winks and messages but rarely got a reply.

Now I have opened it up to men too.

Danish x "

oh my god , you two are proper fit , yourself , has the type of bod that makes me perk , with a ‘oo helllo you.’ I can even see the attraction of himself hairy butt lol

I did consider putting this in a message to you but thought , meh bugger it I’ll write it here. Cheers for posting you’ve brightened my day .

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By *otcplmidsCouple
over a year ago

Warwick

I wouldnt want to be a single man or woman on fab.

As a couple I find the messages have been polite and no abuse like a single woman would get.

I know because the choice of single men is huge loads would be rejected.

I dont think either would be good for ones self esteem x

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By *ryingitout19Man
over a year ago

Wales

I tried this once with someone. I couldn’t keep up with theirs. On the other hand she had very little to do

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By *ed LipstickWoman
over a year ago

Fucksville

A few years ago I had a couples prof with my then fwb, I was still regularly asked if I'd meet men alone, even though the prof clearly said that we wouldn't. I've found that over the past couple of yrs that there are heaps more obscene and inconsiderate men on here, not quite sure why, maybe word's got out that we're all gagging for it. That's my opinion. I can't say that I understand what it's like being a bloke on here, I always try to be polite with with my responses, but lately......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know it may not be as simple as this, but these threads are made up of the people from both perspectives right?

In theory, the not nice folk probably won't be posting about these issues. IT will be the nice folk on here who are frustrated by the issues mentioned.

Understandably, there's back and forth from people who want to defend their position.

I think everyone is right. It's awful to feel like you're ignored and it must be shite for an inbox full of sleezy shitty messages too. EVERYONE is right!

Maybe we could change it up a little? If you see someone saying they feel ignored, message them and start a conversation. Even if you don't fancy them, can still start a conversation.

And if you see someone sick of shitty messages then ask them about their hobbies or some stuff. Might make a new friend and reassure that person that not everyone is a sleazy knobhead.

Even if you're talking to someone you don't fancy, they will feel better, once you feel better good stuff starts to happen. YOu might notice that other person who messaged amogst the dick pics, or you might feel more confident about messaging that other person without the fear of rejection etc.

Or I may just be talking complete dogshit but I've had coffee and can't stop typing

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"As a bi guy, I’ve got a good idea

The low effort messages

The gross messages

The WTF messages

And even when you find a good one, they just do stuff that makes you sigh in disgust

Told a guy I would hook up with somewhat regularly that I had covid and was bed ridden

Came back to like 30 messages in detail how he could come over and just use me if he wanted. How his balls were full and needed emptying

I’ve got covid man. I’m literally just a piece of meat to you aren’t I? Couldn’t care less if I’m dying in bed, you just need to get your rocks off?

I think that’s one thing straight guys never see. It’s gross

Yeeeeeew!!! Phwoar come on love, my balls need emptying.

How could you refuse dude? "

I know! So rude of me to have covid!

How fucked up is it that not only was he willing to come over and “use me” while bed ridden

He was willing to risk catching covid to do it!

I’ve said it before on here

Many men have no idea the amount of abuse and vile messages women get. Being treated like a hole. Like you owe strangers sex, or a reply, or a smile

Many women will never know what it’s like as a single guy up walk down an endless corridor of closed doors. Never good enough, no replies, not even a wink. No message you send is ever good enough, no picture catches anyones eye.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know it may not be as simple as this, but these threads are made up of the people from both perspectives right?

In theory, the not nice folk probably won't be posting about these issues. IT will be the nice folk on here who are frustrated by the issues mentioned.

Understandably, there's back and forth from people who want to defend their position.

I think everyone is right. It's awful to feel like you're ignored and it must be shite for an inbox full of sleezy shitty messages too. EVERYONE is right!

Maybe we could change it up a little? If you see someone saying they feel ignored, message them and start a conversation. Even if you don't fancy them, can still start a conversation.

And if you see someone sick of shitty messages then ask them about their hobbies or some stuff. Might make a new friend and reassure that person that not everyone is a sleazy knobhead.

Even if you're talking to someone you don't fancy, they will feel better, once you feel better good stuff starts to happen. YOu might notice that other person who messaged amogst the dick pics, or you might feel more confident about messaging that other person without the fear of rejection etc.

Or I may just be talking complete dogshit but I've had coffee and can't stop typing

"

I love this, always happy to make friends and chat.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Not really. There is so much said by the ones that do bemoan their lot but there must be thousands more who never give their side .....

You know the ones who don't stick around until their lack of success is spewed forth into a forum.

You know the ones who made more effort, were better looking or just have the sense to know that moaning doesn't change anything and is highly unattractive. The ones that move on and make good or invent better.

As a woman ... I do not want my experiences lumping with every other woman's experiences as if we are some sort of homogenous sisterhood. The differences in people's ages, lifestyles and comittments make us incomparable.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I used an incorrect prefix so I have gone into the corner to cut off a little finger

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By *agic.M OP   Man
over a year ago

Orpington


"I used an incorrect prefix so I have gone into the corner to cut off a little finger"

SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There has been some back and forth lately, on the forum, regarding men not understanding how frustrating it can be as a woman on fab ( the hundreds of dick pics, the constant harassment in the messages, the abuse...), or vice versa how women don't understand what's it like as a man on fab ( being constantly ignored or rejected, never being good enough, not being anyone's type...). What if for 24 hours you could swap with a fellow fabster (of the opposite sex) so you can better understand what it feels like ...who would you choose? And what would you hope to experience?

"

I'll swap with you. You can tick my looking for men box and delight at the men who will fuck the manky type of woman who has a blank profile.

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By *agic.M OP   Man
over a year ago

Orpington


"There has been some back and forth lately, on the forum, regarding men not understanding how frustrating it can be as a woman on fab ( the hundreds of dick pics, the constant harassment in the messages, the abuse...), or vice versa how women don't understand what's it like as a man on fab ( being constantly ignored or rejected, never being good enough, not being anyone's type...). What if for 24 hours you could swap with a fellow fabster (of the opposite sex) so you can better understand what it feels like ...who would you choose? And what would you hope to experience?

I'll swap with you. You can tick my looking for men box and delight at the men who will fuck the manky type of woman who has a blank profile. "

Deal! Let's do it

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I absolutely hate this notion that people seem to have that all women on fab are inundated, all women are getting shitty messages and are annoyed by it and that all women can just click their fingers and get sex. And that all men are ignored and having a shitty fab time.

It simply isn't true.

Yes. There are some women who get hundreds of messages from men. There are some women who are offended by the majority of the messages they get. And there are some women who can click their fingers and have men falling at their feet.

But there are some women who don't, aren't and can't. And hearing about "being a woman on fab means x,y,z" just makes those women feel like lesser beings (not all, I'm not arrogant enough to assume I can speak for all). And makes them feel like the messages they do get are because the men that are sending them are using them as a back up plan. As a desperate attempt to get their dicks wet. Which colours their reaction or non reaction to the messages they do get.

I live in the arse end of nowhere. I'm in my 40s, fat, not that attractive unless I make an effort and take a picture from a flattering angle. My profile is offputting to most or many who read it. I'm not inundated by messages. I do get some, and I do get a lot of the type that seem to anger or upset several people, or bore them. I certainly can't get sex at the click of a finger. If I put a meet now status up I'd get a lot of messages..... from men who are far too far away to actually meet now ("if only you were in Glasgow/London/Timbuktu"). If I put a meet on in the meets section I get no responses.

And I am absolutely fine with that. I'm also fine with the random requests to rip my arsehole open with the sender's massive cock, with the requests to take a dump on or in various parts of a body. The "nice tits", the "I'd destroy you", the "the things I'd do if I could get my hands on you" and the random fantasies. And the "Hi, how are you". Because it doesn't matter. The people (and those aren't just from the section called "men", they come from all the 4 sections) who send them are reaching out in their way. I have a choice to react or not, and they don't know if I'd react well or badly to their opener so more power to them for giving it their best shot.

I've also many times been rejected. Abusively, sometimes horrifically so. Kindly, yes. And silently with messages being ignored. And it is disheartening when that happens. It reinforces my idea that I'm a bit shit and anyone who does send me a message saying they find me attractive is scr*ping the barrel. But that's on me and my insecurities.

(I should note here that I am aware that some people do find me attractive and I thank them for making the effort to tell me enough and for long enough that I actually believe them now)

There are more men who have a rough time of it on here than there are women. But a big part of that is because there are more men on here. And we read every day in the forum, in statuses and in profiles that "no one ever replies", "what do I have to do to get a shag" etc. Reinforcing the idea that men will shag anyone as long as it means they get a shag. And that idea doesn't help women or men. Moaning about it is unattractive, and devalues those women who do answer all their messages, as (those that would wonder) are left wondering what it is about them that makes them unworthy of a message from these men.... whether they want one or not.

As is moaning about an overflowing inbox of "shite", about there being "no decent men" etc. It looks boastful, self aggrandising and is destructive to those men who are lovely, kind and decent, who are (in some cases) left wondering if their message ever got through, is it shite, are they not a decent man etc.

I don't quite know what my point is. Except that I'm just tired of the moaning, the assumptions. The lumping all women into one homogenous blob,doing the same with men, ignoring that couples are two people (and that the message *you* consider shitty could just have well have come from the woman) and seeming to forget that TV/TS/CD is even a group on fab.

Women (and the other 3 groups) are individuals with our own fab experiences. And I'd really like it if we were treated as such.

Thanks for attending my TED talk, and sorry Mekell for going off on a tangent.

Oh. And in answer to the OP, nah. I'd not exchange thanks. I've experienced that through male friends and purely through being me. But if I could swap bodies with a man..... now you're talking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm fortunate enough to be able to have open conversations about this very topic with someone I know without highlighting the profiles of course as that's private. It's interesting to be able to make comparisons as it does seem to follow normal trends. My inbox is pretty slow and generally contains respectful messages. Hers is constantly bombarded by what people want to do to her and clearly ignoring her profile bio. We have a good laugh about it

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By *rMojoRisinMan
over a year ago

Sheffield


"I absolutely hate this notion that people seem to have that all women on fab are inundated, all women are getting shitty messages and are annoyed by it and that all women can just click their fingers and get sex. And that all men are ignored and having a shitty fab time.

It simply isn't true.

Yes. There are some women who get hundreds of messages from men. There are some women who are offended by the majority of the messages they get. And there are some women who can click their fingers and have men falling at their feet.

But there are some women who don't, aren't and can't. And hearing about "being a woman on fab means x,y,z" just makes those women feel like lesser beings (not all, I'm not arrogant enough to assume I can speak for all). And makes them feel like the messages they do get are because the men that are sending them are using them as a back up plan. As a desperate attempt to get their dicks wet. Which colours their reaction or non reaction to the messages they do get.

I live in the arse end of nowhere. I'm in my 40s, fat, not that attractive unless I make an effort and take a picture from a flattering angle. My profile is offputting to most or many who read it. I'm not inundated by messages. I do get some, and I do get a lot of the type that seem to anger or upset several people, or bore them. I certainly can't get sex at the click of a finger. If I put a meet now status up I'd get a lot of messages..... from men who are far too far away to actually meet now ("if only you were in Glasgow/London/Timbuktu"). If I put a meet on in the meets section I get no responses.

And I am absolutely fine with that. I'm also fine with the random requests to rip my arsehole open with the sender's massive cock, with the requests to take a dump on or in various parts of a body. The "nice tits", the "I'd destroy you", the "the things I'd do if I could get my hands on you" and the random fantasies. And the "Hi, how are you". Because it doesn't matter. The people (and those aren't just from the section called "men", they come from all the 4 sections) who send them are reaching out in their way. I have a choice to react or not, and they don't know if I'd react well or badly to their opener so more power to them for giving it their best shot.

I've also many times been rejected. Abusively, sometimes horrifically so. Kindly, yes. And silently with messages being ignored. And it is disheartening when that happens. It reinforces my idea that I'm a bit shit and anyone who does send me a message saying they find me attractive is scr*ping the barrel. But that's on me and my insecurities.

(I should note here that I am aware that some people do find me attractive and I thank them for making the effort to tell me enough and for long enough that I actually believe them now)

There are more men who have a rough time of it on here than there are women. But a big part of that is because there are more men on here. And we read every day in the forum, in statuses and in profiles that "no one ever replies", "what do I have to do to get a shag" etc. Reinforcing the idea that men will shag anyone as long as it means they get a shag. And that idea doesn't help women or men. Moaning about it is unattractive, and devalues those women who do answer all their messages, as (those that would wonder) are left wondering what it is about them that makes them unworthy of a message from these men.... whether they want one or not.

As is moaning about an overflowing inbox of "shite", about there being "no decent men" etc. It looks boastful, self aggrandising and is destructive to those men who are lovely, kind and decent, who are (in some cases) left wondering if their message ever got through, is it shite, are they not a decent man etc.

I don't quite know what my point is. Except that I'm just tired of the moaning, the assumptions. The lumping all women into one homogenous blob,doing the same with men, ignoring that couples are two people (and that the message *you* consider shitty could just have well have come from the woman) and seeming to forget that TV/TS/CD is even a group on fab.

Women (and the other 3 groups) are individuals with our own fab experiences. And I'd really like it if we were treated as such.

Thanks for attending my TED talk, and sorry Mekell for going off on a tangent.

Oh. And in answer to the OP, nah. I'd not exchange thanks. I've experienced that through male friends and purely through being me. But if I could swap bodies with a man..... now you're talking "

Thoughtful, considered and insightful.

Thanks Posh, I enjoyed reading this. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I were the opposite sex on Fab I would probably be the village bike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On my singles profile I have, all I wanted to do was meet women. My inbox has never been so empty and my views were next to nothing, yes I sent winks and messages but rarely got a reply.

Now I have opened it up to men too.

Danish x

oh my god , you two are proper fit , yourself , has the type of bod that makes me perk , with a ‘oo helllo you.’ I can even see the attraction of himself hairy butt lol

I did consider putting this in a message to you but thought , meh bugger it I’ll write it here. Cheers for posting you’ve brightened my day .

"

Thank you for the love! Nice tash!

Danish x

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I'm sorry to anyone who has been upset by my long comment earlier. I didn't intend it to sound as angry and ranty as apparently it came across and I apologise for that.

I took my hard couple of days out by speaking my mind in a flow of consciousness and it was a stupid and thoughtless thing to do, despite it being how I feel. There is a time and a place and this wasn't it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I absolutely hate this notion that people seem to have that all women on fab are inundated, all women are getting shitty messages and are annoyed by it and that all women can just click their fingers and get sex. And that all men are ignored and having a shitty fab time.

It simply isn't true.

Yes. There are some women who get hundreds of messages from men. There are some women who are offended by the majority of the messages they get. And there are some women who can click their fingers and have men falling at their feet.

But there are some women who don't, aren't and can't. And hearing about "being a woman on fab means x,y,z" just makes those women feel like lesser beings (not all, I'm not arrogant enough to assume I can speak for all). And makes them feel like the messages they do get are because the men that are sending them are using them as a back up plan. As a desperate attempt to get their dicks wet. Which colours their reaction or non reaction to the messages they do get.

I live in the arse end of nowhere. I'm in my 40s, fat, not that attractive unless I make an effort and take a picture from a flattering angle. My profile is offputting to most or many who read it. I'm not inundated by messages. I do get some, and I do get a lot of the type that seem to anger or upset several people, or bore them. I certainly can't get sex at the click of a finger. If I put a meet now status up I'd get a lot of messages..... from men who are far too far away to actually meet now ("if only you were in Glasgow/London/Timbuktu"). If I put a meet on in the meets section I get no responses.

And I am absolutely fine with that. I'm also fine with the random requests to rip my arsehole open with the sender's massive cock, with the requests to take a dump on or in various parts of a body. The "nice tits", the "I'd destroy you", the "the things I'd do if I could get my hands on you" and the random fantasies. And the "Hi, how are you". Because it doesn't matter. The people (and those aren't just from the section called "men", they come from all the 4 sections) who send them are reaching out in their way. I have a choice to react or not, and they don't know if I'd react well or badly to their opener so more power to them for giving it their best shot.

I've also many times been rejected. Abusively, sometimes horrifically so. Kindly, yes. And silently with messages being ignored. And it is disheartening when that happens. It reinforces my idea that I'm a bit shit and anyone who does send me a message saying they find me attractive is scr*ping the barrel. But that's on me and my insecurities.

(I should note here that I am aware that some people do find me attractive and I thank them for making the effort to tell me enough and for long enough that I actually believe them now)

There are more men who have a rough time of it on here than there are women. But a big part of that is because there are more men on here. And we read every day in the forum, in statuses and in profiles that "no one ever replies", "what do I have to do to get a shag" etc. Reinforcing the idea that men will shag anyone as long as it means they get a shag. And that idea doesn't help women or men. Moaning about it is unattractive, and devalues those women who do answer all their messages, as (those that would wonder) are left wondering what it is about them that makes them unworthy of a message from these men.... whether they want one or not.

As is moaning about an overflowing inbox of "shite", about there being "no decent men" etc. It looks boastful, self aggrandising and is destructive to those men who are lovely, kind and decent, who are (in some cases) left wondering if their message ever got through, is it shite, are they not a decent man etc.

I don't quite know what my point is. Except that I'm just tired of the moaning, the assumptions. The lumping all women into one homogenous blob,doing the same with men, ignoring that couples are two people (and that the message *you* consider shitty could just have well have come from the woman) and seeming to forget that TV/TS/CD is even a group on fab.

Women (and the other 3 groups) are individuals with our own fab experiences. And I'd really like it if we were treated as such.

Thanks for attending my TED talk, and sorry Mekell for going off on a tangent.

Oh. And in answer to the OP, nah. I'd not exchange thanks. I've experienced that through male friends and purely through being me. But if I could swap bodies with a man..... now you're talking

Thoughtful, considered and insightful.

Thanks Posh, I enjoyed reading this. x "

Same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sorry to anyone who has been upset by my long comment earlier. I didn't intend it to sound as angry and ranty as apparently it came across and I apologise for that.

I took my hard couple of days out by speaking my mind in a flow of consciousness and it was a stupid and thoughtless thing to do, despite it being how I feel. There is a time and a place and this wasn't it."

I like angry ranty, it gets the blood flowing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sorry to anyone who has been upset by my long comment earlier. I didn't intend it to sound as angry and ranty as apparently it came across and I apologise for that.

I took my hard couple of days out by speaking my mind in a flow of consciousness and it was a stupid and thoughtless thing to do, despite it being how I feel. There is a time and a place and this wasn't it."

No upset here Posh. Only respect.

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By *oly Fuck Sticks BatmanCouple
over a year ago

here & there

We both have access to all 3 accounts - single male, single female, couples.

Oh my days I’m amazed any guys get meets on here given the content the SF receives in her inbox, it gets better on the couples account & SM is barely used anymore.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast


"I'm sorry to anyone who has been upset by my long comment earlier. I didn't intend it to sound as angry and ranty as apparently it came across and I apologise for that.

I took my hard couple of days out by speaking my mind in a flow of consciousness and it was a stupid and thoughtless thing to do, despite it being how I feel. There is a time and a place and this wasn't it."

It's actually a pretty fair assessment and synopsis of life on fab and did need to be said without having to start an entirely new thread. Anything that reminds people not to generalise or tar particular groups with the same brush and start treating people as human beings rather than talking pussies and penises can only be positive.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales


"I absolutely hate this notion that people seem to have that all women on fab are inundated, all women are getting shitty messages and are annoyed by it and that all women can just click their fingers and get sex. And that all men are ignored and having a shitty fab time.

It simply isn't true.

Yes. There are some women who get hundreds of messages from men. There are some women who are offended by the majority of the messages they get. And there are some women who can click their fingers and have men falling at their feet.

But there are some women who don't, aren't and can't. And hearing about "being a woman on fab means x,y,z" just makes those women feel like lesser beings (not all, I'm not arrogant enough to assume I can speak for all). And makes them feel like the messages they do get are because the men that are sending them are using them as a back up plan. As a desperate attempt to get their dicks wet. Which colours their reaction or non reaction to the messages they do get.

I live in the arse end of nowhere. I'm in my 40s, fat, not that attractive unless I make an effort and take a picture from a flattering angle. My profile is offputting to most or many who read it. I'm not inundated by messages. I do get some, and I do get a lot of the type that seem to anger or upset several people, or bore them. I certainly can't get sex at the click of a finger. If I put a meet now status up I'd get a lot of messages..... from men who are far too far away to actually meet now ("if only you were in Glasgow/London/Timbuktu"). If I put a meet on in the meets section I get no responses.

And I am absolutely fine with that. I'm also fine with the random requests to rip my arsehole open with the sender's massive cock, with the requests to take a dump on or in various parts of a body. The "nice tits", the "I'd destroy you", the "the things I'd do if I could get my hands on you" and the random fantasies. And the "Hi, how are you". Because it doesn't matter. The people (and those aren't just from the section called "men", they come from all the 4 sections) who send them are reaching out in their way. I have a choice to react or not, and they don't know if I'd react well or badly to their opener so more power to them for giving it their best shot.

I've also many times been rejected. Abusively, sometimes horrifically so. Kindly, yes. And silently with messages being ignored. And it is disheartening when that happens. It reinforces my idea that I'm a bit shit and anyone who does send me a message saying they find me attractive is scr*ping the barrel. But that's on me and my insecurities.

(I should note here that I am aware that some people do find me attractive and I thank them for making the effort to tell me enough and for long enough that I actually believe them now)

There are more men who have a rough time of it on here than there are women. But a big part of that is because there are more men on here. And we read every day in the forum, in statuses and in profiles that "no one ever replies", "what do I have to do to get a shag" etc. Reinforcing the idea that men will shag anyone as long as it means they get a shag. And that idea doesn't help women or men. Moaning about it is unattractive, and devalues those women who do answer all their messages, as (those that would wonder) are left wondering what it is about them that makes them unworthy of a message from these men.... whether they want one or not.

As is moaning about an overflowing inbox of "shite", about there being "no decent men" etc. It looks boastful, self aggrandising and is destructive to those men who are lovely, kind and decent, who are (in some cases) left wondering if their message ever got through, is it shite, are they not a decent man etc.

I don't quite know what my point is. Except that I'm just tired of the moaning, the assumptions. The lumping all women into one homogenous blob,doing the same with men, ignoring that couples are two people (and that the message *you* consider shitty could just have well have come from the woman) and seeming to forget that TV/TS/CD is even a group on fab.

Women (and the other 3 groups) are individuals with our own fab experiences. And I'd really like it if we were treated as such.

Thanks for attending my TED talk, and sorry Mekell for going off on a tangent.

Oh. And in answer to the OP, nah. I'd not exchange thanks. I've experienced that through male friends and purely through being me. But if I could swap bodies with a man..... now you're talking "

Well said

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

We’ve both been singles on here and so know what it’s like from both perspectives.

Yes woman get hundreds and thousands more messages but it would still only equate to around 1% of the messages they want.

Guys get a lot less so they probably hunt more and therefore target the type of women they want to message so if they get a response they are getting a message from someone they want to talk to.

I don’t buy into the hype it’s harder for any group - they all have their pros and cons.

Sell yourself as best as you can, be respectful and build relationships and you’ll be fine.

I would say that pairing a guy with a girl/couple and both speaking about the pros and cons privately would help people appreciate each side though.

K

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"I'm sorry to anyone who has been upset by my long comment earlier. I didn't intend it to sound as angry and ranty as apparently it came across and I apologise for that.

I took my hard couple of days out by speaking my mind in a flow of consciousness and it was a stupid and thoughtless thing to do, despite it being how I feel. There is a time and a place and this wasn't it."

I'm definitely not one for blowing smoke up your arse but I genuinely enjoyed reading it - it was authentic, heartfelt and true. It didn't read as ranty.

It's what GC said earlier about the homogeneous group. I've never had an abusive message bar one directly relating to the forum. Never been turned down. Our (not you and I, NSP, the general our) experiences are so different as women. An individualistic approach is far better than a blanket one that unfairly and incorrectly describes the "reality" of a woman on here.

Anyway, I hope your hard couple of days are over and things are on the up for you, the sooner the better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You want a couple profile. It took all of about 3 mins to block single men

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By *nooshWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

You don't have to fear messaging him, he's lovely

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"If I were the opposite sex on Fab I would probably be the village bike "

This is true....... prob a Raleigh Chopper

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I'm sorry to anyone who has been upset by my long comment earlier. I didn't intend it to sound as angry and ranty as apparently it came across and I apologise for that.

I took my hard couple of days out by speaking my mind in a flow of consciousness and it was a stupid and thoughtless thing to do, despite it being how I feel. There is a time and a place and this wasn't it."

Why apologise ? Fuck the sound byters ...... just fuck them.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

I don't hunt or chase on here and don't expect to be hunted or chased either.

On previous profiles I've experienced the difficulties of making contact and having messages deleted or not responded to and it was frustrating.

When I created this profile 3 years ago I started using the forums for the first time and my experience improved immensely.

A year later I decided to amend my approach and I stopped sending introductory messages completely and haven't sent one in the last 2 years.

That was based on a realisation that even though I could read an entire profile and find common ground it didn't necessarily mean that they would think likewise.

I'm more than happy to allow my forum interaction draw people to my profile and they can then form their own opinion on whether to get in touch or not.

If they do they will find that I still won't be chasing or hunting but am not than happy to chat as equals.

I've found that the best introductory messages are those that don't involve introductions and just jump in mid conversation.

Based on all that I wouldn't want to swap places at it's much more fun as it is but I accept that my relaxed approach wouldn't be acceptable to many.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sorry to anyone who has been upset by my long comment earlier. I didn't intend it to sound as angry and ranty as apparently it came across and I apologise for that.

I took my hard couple of days out by speaking my mind in a flow of consciousness and it was a stupid and thoughtless thing to do, despite it being how I feel. There is a time and a place and this wasn't it."

Don’t be sorry to anyone! You’ve not said anything to cause offence or upset. I think it’s brilliant and I think a lot of people respect your post it’s truthfully honest and raw.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"I absolutely hate this notion that people seem to have that all women on fab are inundated, all women are getting shitty messages and are annoyed by it and that all women can just click their fingers and get sex. And that all men are ignored and having a shitty fab time.

It simply isn't true.

Yes. There are some women who get hundreds of messages from men. There are some women who are offended by the majority of the messages they get. And there are some women who can click their fingers and have men falling at their feet.

But there are some women who don't, aren't and can't. And hearing about "being a woman on fab means x,y,z" just makes those women feel like lesser beings (not all, I'm not arrogant enough to assume I can speak for all). And makes them feel like the messages they do get are because the men that are sending them are using them as a back up plan. As a desperate attempt to get their dicks wet. Which colours their reaction or non reaction to the messages they do get.

I live in the arse end of nowhere. I'm in my 40s, fat, not that attractive unless I make an effort and take a picture from a flattering angle. My profile is offputting to most or many who read it. I'm not inundated by messages. I do get some, and I do get a lot of the type that seem to anger or upset several people, or bore them. I certainly can't get sex at the click of a finger. If I put a meet now status up I'd get a lot of messages..... from men who are far too far away to actually meet now ("if only you were in Glasgow/London/Timbuktu"). If I put a meet on in the meets section I get no responses.

And I am absolutely fine with that. I'm also fine with the random requests to rip my arsehole open with the sender's massive cock, with the requests to take a dump on or in various parts of a body. The "nice tits", the "I'd destroy you", the "the things I'd do if I could get my hands on you" and the random fantasies. And the "Hi, how are you". Because it doesn't matter. The people (and those aren't just from the section called "men", they come from all the 4 sections) who send them are reaching out in their way. I have a choice to react or not, and they don't know if I'd react well or badly to their opener so more power to them for giving it their best shot.

I've also many times been rejected. Abusively, sometimes horrifically so. Kindly, yes. And silently with messages being ignored. And it is disheartening when that happens. It reinforces my idea that I'm a bit shit and anyone who does send me a message saying they find me attractive is scr*ping the barrel. But that's on me and my insecurities.

(I should note here that I am aware that some people do find me attractive and I thank them for making the effort to tell me enough and for long enough that I actually believe them now)

There are more men who have a rough time of it on here than there are women. But a big part of that is because there are more men on here. And we read every day in the forum, in statuses and in profiles that "no one ever replies", "what do I have to do to get a shag" etc. Reinforcing the idea that men will shag anyone as long as it means they get a shag. And that idea doesn't help women or men. Moaning about it is unattractive, and devalues those women who do answer all their messages, as (those that would wonder) are left wondering what it is about them that makes them unworthy of a message from these men.... whether they want one or not.

As is moaning about an overflowing inbox of "shite", about there being "no decent men" etc. It looks boastful, self aggrandising and is destructive to those men who are lovely, kind and decent, who are (in some cases) left wondering if their message ever got through, is it shite, are they not a decent man etc.

I don't quite know what my point is. Except that I'm just tired of the moaning, the assumptions. The lumping all women into one homogenous blob,doing the same with men, ignoring that couples are two people (and that the message *you* consider shitty could just have well have come from the woman) and seeming to forget that TV/TS/CD is even a group on fab.

Women (and the other 3 groups) are individuals with our own fab experiences. And I'd really like it if we were treated as such.

Thanks for attending my TED talk, and sorry Mekell for going off on a tangent.

Oh. And in answer to the OP, nah. I'd not exchange thanks. I've experienced that through male friends and purely through being me. But if I could swap bodies with a man..... now you're talking "

Wow well said that lady

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over a year ago


"Oh go on then, I'll do day as Mekell and a day as FoolHardy.

Be something akin to Freaky Friday

If you'll allow me free reign afterall "

Who would not allow you free reign

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"Oh go on then, I'll do day as Mekell and a day as FoolHardy.

Be something akin to Freaky Friday

If you'll allow me free reign afterall

Who would not allow you free reign "

Very good question, Mancunianjay1981. Probably someone sensible to be fair

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over a year ago


"I know it may not be as simple as this, but these threads are made up of the people from both perspectives right?

In theory, the not nice folk probably won't be posting about these issues. IT will be the nice folk on here who are frustrated by the issues mentioned.

Understandably, there's back and forth from people who want to defend their position.

I think everyone is right. It's awful to feel like you're ignored and it must be shite for an inbox full of sleezy shitty messages too. EVERYONE is right!

Maybe we could change it up a little? If you see someone saying they feel ignored, message them and start a conversation. Even if you don't fancy them, can still start a conversation.

And if you see someone sick of shitty messages then ask them about their hobbies or some stuff. Might make a new friend and reassure that person that not everyone is a sleazy knobhead.

Even if you're talking to someone you don't fancy, they will feel better, once you feel better good stuff starts to happen. YOu might notice that other person who messaged amogst the dick pics, or you might feel more confident about messaging that other person without the fear of rejection etc.

Or I may just be talking complete dogshit but I've had coffee and can't stop typing

"

Love the sentiment - well said.

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