FabSwingers.com forum: Did you know...

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Reading some of the forum posts on here it doesn't matter one iota as long as they can scratch an itch.

Social interaction is not a prerequisite for all.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I think the repeated written word in answer to a variety of topics and the consistency that may drive, gives me a good impression into the thinking of any individual...... that may not make it a right decision, but it is mine and I am happy to make it.

It also has to be said I have changed my opinion of people following something they have said and that is in both direction... from negative to positive and vice versa.

and people will have of me.

I am really cool with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit. "

I would very much like to read the peer re_iewed research which came to this conclusion. Please provide the references.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gut instinct for me.....has served me well so far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nice try though, OP. A bit transparent, and I doubt it will work, but a good effort.

It may have been better to have begun a discussion rather than declaring this as a fact, with no substantiation.

I could post "did you know that the moon is made of turkey burgers" but no matter how it might suit my purposes, it doesn't make it true.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

You can judge a person by any form of information that you believe to be correct. If that is an ill perceived perception then so be it but we all judge people & situations on how we see them at the time.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I could post "did you know that the moon is made of turkey burgers" but no matter how it might suit my purposes, it doesn't make it true."

Sod off, we all know it's made of cheese

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I could post "did you know that the moon is made of turkey burgers" but no matter how it might suit my purposes, it doesn't make it true.

Sod off, we all know it's made of cheese

Na-uh. I just posted it as a 'did you know' on here and that makes it true.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit.

I would very much like to read the peer re_iewed research which came to this conclusion. Please provide the references."

Not required.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Intuition is our only way of deciding who is right for us all, be it in writing or meeting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree.

99.9% of the time I am right about someone based on his/her online persona.

If I do not like someone online, then I am not likely to like him/her off it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit. "

Yeah.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

But you can judge if you have lust for them based mainly in pics.

The personality can ruin the lust though, so an in person meet can turn an oooh yes into a definite no!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally my decision to meet someone is based on the exchange of messages (and their profile), if they ask on a meet we are arranging, if we we can kiss and cuddle and more, we won't be meeting. I agree with another forum post too, talking about things that are not sexual, also helps with my decision to meet.

So no I don't agree with your point. You can grow to like someone more at a meet but the initial decision is based on the exchange of messages

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

We all make judgments all the time. The mix of input data that determines the choices we make. I would assert that you can make a judgement about someone without meeting them and will cite job applications, instead of here, to give this context.

Meeting, speaking and shaking hands may reinforce that initial judgment or may overturn it.

When you meet someone for the first time you make a judgment. I'll use Pride and Prejudice to support this argument. Elizabeth takes time to reverse her original judgment of Darcy.

To return to the Fab world, I can't be bothered to meet and shake the hands of all of the men that contact me with inane three word messages.

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By *stmateMan
over a year ago

Notts

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit. "

I have to agree with the OP although it doesn't always apply, I've had meets where ladies were more impressed with me in the flesh and they admitted it. My profile might be boring and the pictures maybe not so imaginative but that just goes to show u can't always judge by pics and profile. Especially with the number of fake people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit.

I would very much like to read the peer re_iewed research which came to this conclusion. Please provide the references.

Not required. "

You've stated a fact. Where's your evidence?

It's just an opinion otherwise, which is fine, but to state an opinion with "did you know" and present it as a fact seems rather arrogant to me.

It will colour anything else you say. And thus, the way people appear online affects whether people wish to meet them. Especially as many, if not most, people here are looking for people to fuck, rather than lifelong friends.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to use a combination of reading profiles thoroughly, looking closely at profile pics for evidence they've been lifted from a Lithuanian porn site, the random ramblings some may post in the forums - as well as the psychic powers I inherited when bitten on the arse by a radioactive mosquito whilst holidaying in Chernobyl last summer!

That and a highly trained team of investigative monkeys that will do background checks via government databases and stalk any potential meets for a week on my behalf!

Saves me a fortune in coffee and hand shaking!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I tend to use a combination of reading profiles thoroughly, looking closely at profile pics for evidence they've been lifted from a Lithuanian porn site, the random ramblings some may post in the forums - as well as the psychic powers I inherited when bitten on the arse by a radioactive mosquito whilst holidaying in Chernobyl last summer!

That and a highly trained team of investigative monkeys that will do background checks via government databases and stalk any potential meets for a week on my behalf!

Saves me a fortune in coffee and hand shaking!

It also gives you time to shake other things with those hands of yours.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit. "

I think I get what you are saying as even when we speak with people on here and then arrange a meet, you still have to look them in they eye to see if they really are for you.

But, we do judge people on what they have written and depending on wether we like what they say depends on wether we even arrange a meet.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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You've stated a fact. Where's your evidence?

It's just an opinion otherwise, which is fine, but to state an opinion with "did you know" and present it as a fact seems rather arrogant to me.

Wow, the man was just starting a thread saying what he thinks...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The OP might be right, one does read cases of naive women marrying pen-pals and ending up chained in the cellar

or handing over their bank details to help the lovely friend out of a fix.

Chat magazine is full of such tales

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've stated a fact. Where's your evidence?

It's just an opinion otherwise, which is fine, but to state an opinion with "did you know" and present it as a fact seems rather arrogant to me.

Wow, the man was just starting a thread saying what he thinks...

Not really, since the title is "do you know". That's a statement of fact, with the suggestion he's educating us, not an opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've stated a fact. Where's your evidence?

It's just an opinion otherwise, which is fine, but to state an opinion with "did you know" and present it as a fact seems rather arrogant to me.

Wow, the man was just starting a thread saying what he thinks...

Not really, since the title is "do you know". That's a statement of fact, with the suggestion he's educating us, not an opinion."

Sheesh, the words 'pill' and 'chill' suddenly sprung to mind!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit.

I think I get what you are saying as even when we speak with people on here and then arrange a meet, you still have to look them in they eye to see if they really are for you.

But, we do judge people on what they have written and depending on wether we like what they say depends on wether we even arrange a meet."

I don't think that's what he's saying. I think his point is everyone he's interested in should meet him before deciding whether they want to play.

Since the OP has complained previously at a lack of interest in meeting him, this seems like him saying more people should be meeting him because otherwise they aren't judging him fairly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've stated a fact. Where's your evidence?

It's just an opinion otherwise, which is fine, but to state an opinion with "did you know" and present it as a fact seems rather arrogant to me.

Wow, the man was just starting a thread saying what he thinks...

Not really, since the title is "do you know". That's a statement of fact, with the suggestion he's educating us, not an opinion.

Sheesh, the words 'pill' and 'chill' suddenly sprung to mind!

Nobody on here has a right to expect anyone to meet them, whether they think they're being judged fairly or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've stated a fact. Where's your evidence?

It's just an opinion otherwise, which is fine, but to state an opinion with "did you know" and present it as a fact seems rather arrogant to me.

Wow, the man was just starting a thread saying what he thinks...

Not really, since the title is "do you know". That's a statement of fact, with the suggestion he's educating us, not an opinion.

Sheesh, the words 'pill' and 'chill' suddenly sprung to mind!

Nobody on here has a right to expect anyone to meet them, whether they think they're being judged fairly or not."

Erm, where does it say the op expects anyone to meet him? I took his statement to mean, 'you can't judge a book by its cover'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've stated a fact. Where's your evidence?

It's just an opinion otherwise, which is fine, but to state an opinion with "did you know" and present it as a fact seems rather arrogant to me.

Wow, the man was just starting a thread saying what he thinks...

Not really, since the title is "do you know". That's a statement of fact, with the suggestion he's educating us, not an opinion.

Sheesh, the words 'pill' and 'chill' suddenly sprung to mind!

Nobody on here has a right to expect anyone to meet them, whether they think they're being judged fairly or not.

Erm, where does it say the op expects anyone to meet him? I took his statement to mean, 'you can't judge a book by its cover'.

Have you seen any of the OPs previous posts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've stated a fact. Where's your evidence?

It's just an opinion otherwise, which is fine, but to state an opinion with "did you know" and present it as a fact seems rather arrogant to me.

Wow, the man was just starting a thread saying what he thinks...

Not really, since the title is "do you know". That's a statement of fact, with the suggestion he's educating us, not an opinion.

Sheesh, the words 'pill' and 'chill' suddenly sprung to mind!

Nobody on here has a right to expect anyone to meet them, whether they think they're being judged fairly or not.

Erm, where does it say the op expects anyone to meet him? I took his statement to mean, 'you can't judge a book by its cover'.

Have you seen any of the OPs previous posts?"

Nope. I've not a clue what op has previously posted, but just basing my opinion on this one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit. "

I can't judge them, but I can decide whether I fancy 'em or not and whether they are on a similar wavelength to me.

To that end, I can decide whether or not a meet would be worthwhile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As this is a swinger's site I presume that by 'like' you mean 'fancy".

So if you received a message from a woman which told you she weighed eighteen stone and enjoyed tossing the caber at weekends, with attached pictures showing that she was indeed extremely fat, had a hunchback, a luxuriant beard and anchor tattoos on her very muscular biceps, would you need to meet her in order to know whether or not you fancied her?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As this is a swinger's site I presume that by 'like' you mean 'fancy".

The same woman has been hassling me for a meet

Somebody should report her, how dare a fat, ugly, tattoo'd, bearded, Amazonian woman try to procure sex on a swingers site, it's disgusting!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As this is a swinger's site I presume that by 'like' you mean 'fancy".

I'd have to meet her, just to make sure her hump fitted the dip in my mattress!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As this is a swinger's site I presume that by 'like' you mean 'fancy".

I'd have to meet her, just to make sure her hump fitted the dip in my mattress!

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

So me saying no thanks to a fit, muscular, gorgeous man (I saw the pics and veris) based on the incredibly angry and offensive homophobic rant against men who had the cheek to message him was actually a sign of my bigotry and intolerance

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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You've stated a fact. Where's your evidence?

It's just an opinion otherwise, which is fine, but to state an opinion with "did you know" and present it as a fact seems rather arrogant to me.

Wow, the man was just starting a thread saying what he thinks...

Not really, since the title is "do you know". That's a statement of fact, with the suggestion he's educating us, not an opinion."

We can all be pedantic, but some of us just take it as we see it.

If however the man came back and said it was a scientific study and he has the evidence you desire then my opinion might change.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit.

I think I get what you are saying as even when we speak with people on here and then arrange a meet, you still have to look them in they eye to see if they really are for you.

But, we do judge people on what they have written and depending on wether we like what they say depends on wether we even arrange a meet.

I don't think that's what he's saying. ."

Thats not a problem, I don't need for you to agree with my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit.

I think I get what you are saying as even when we speak with people on here and then arrange a meet, you still have to look them in they eye to see if they really are for you.

But, we do judge people on what they have written and depending on wether we like what they say depends on wether we even arrange a meet.

I don't think that's what he's saying. .

Thats not a problem, I don't need for you to agree with my opinion.

No but you disagreed that I should disagree with what the OP posted, or at least implied it with the

I'm entitled to my opinion too, especially, as unlike the OP, it is an opinion and not a post telling others how they should think and behave.

I dislike the implication in the original post that by not meeting everyone before forming an opinion of them, I'm "doing it wrong".

I took the post as it was written, with the prior knowledge of what the OP has posted, rather than assuming he didn't actually mean exactly what he said.

If that's pedantic, so be it.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit. "
I agree that the forums are one way of getting to know a person and I have not been disappointed with those I have seen on here and met in person.

Equally, it is possible to get to know a person through (several) email exchanges, phone calls etc. All add up to an overall impression which is confirmed (or revised) through meeting in person. I my experience I have not met many people who are vastly different from their online persona. Perhaps I have been lucky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For some, getting to know someone before playing is important; for others its not.

Some want just the purely physical; so finding out what makes someone 'tick' is fairly pointless when all you want is a 'six pack and a cock like a tin of vim stuck on a rams heart' to pound you senseless and then never to have your paths cross again.

For others, personality counts for more than looks alone* - making someone laugh and having good conversation is just as stimulating as the physical aspects.

There is no right way and no wrong way - just they way you play the game. It's all about finding the like-minded - and not taking a stick to those who choose to march to the beat of a different drummer.

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*I hope this is the case, or I may as well get my coat now!

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

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Well put

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, i for one just took the post to mean 'don't judge a book by its cover'. Which is very true!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit.

I think I get what you are saying as even when we speak with people on here and then arrange a meet, you still have to look them in they eye to see if they really are for you.

But, we do judge people on what they have written and depending on wether we like what they say depends on wether we even arrange a meet.

I don't think that's what he's saying. .

Thats not a problem, I don't need for you to agree with my opinion.

No but you disagreed that I should disagree with what the OP posted, or at least implied it with the

I commented on your post and put the

as I couldn't believe that you were asking for evidence.

That is not the same as telling you that you shouldn't disagree with the OP.

Maybe ask what people mean rather than assume what others are thinking.

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/126505

Maybe it is time for some cake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit.

I think I get what you are saying as even when we speak with people on here and then arrange a meet, you still have to look them in they eye to see if they really are for you.

But, we do judge people on what they have written and depending on wether we like what they say depends on wether we even arrange a meet.

I don't think that's what he's saying. .

Thats not a problem, I don't need for you to agree with my opinion.

No but you disagreed that I should disagree with what the OP posted, or at least implied it with the

I commented on your post and put the

as I couldn't believe that you were asking for evidence.

That is not the same as telling you that you shouldn't disagree with the OP.

Maybe ask what people mean rather than assume what others are thinking.

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/126505

Maybe it is time for some cake

you off the fig rolls now then ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I assume people mean what they say, normally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But yes, I am probably taking this a bit personally. I hate being told how to think, especially when I see the OP as another whiney, albeit veiled, post about not getting meets.

No cake though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But yes, I am probably taking this a bit personally. I hate being told how to think, especially when I see the OP as another whiney, albeit veiled, post about not getting meets.

No cake though."

But, how do you know he isn't talking about a gal he met? He may mean that she seemed nice on her profile and when msging, but turned out to be a bunnyboiler!

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Well, i for one just took the post to mean 'don't judge a book by its cover'. Which is very true!"

But if they do not match your preferences, or show a bias in the way their profile is written or even an outright bigotry would you spend you (often limited) meeting time meeting someone you doubt you will get on with/click with/lust after?

I get lots of replies to my polite no thank yous telling me that they know they'd be able to please me. Am I not entitled to know that I don't fancy them/consider some of their opinions offensive based on their profile, pics and (if they post) their posts?

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

To be perfectly honest - and I dont know the OP - I actually only read the OP as a statement on how you need to meet somebody in order to get the full picture. Maybe I am being naive here but I did not see anything else in this post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well, i for one just took the post to mean 'don't judge a book by its cover'. Which is very true!

Of course i wouldn't waste my time if our preferences didn't match up! That isn't judging people, its just common sense! But, the op stated 'after msges and pics' so i'm assuming that there must have been some sort of attraction in the first place!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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you off the fig rolls now then ?"

Oh gawd no, I saved you one for when you came back, but you turned up too late and I have eaten it now...sorry about that

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

But if the messages and pics work then you meet.

If someone has exchanged messages and pics and got a no thanks then they have also worked! If one wants to meet and the other doesn't surely it is against every swinging code to insist that the other meet you?

No means no.

No question, no argument, no debate.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

You mean there are words attached to the pictures I get sent occasionally?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you off the fig rolls now then ?

Oh gawd no, I saved you one for when you came back, but you turned up too late and I have eaten it now...sorry about that

what cakes ya got then ?

being the traditionalist you are, i have you pinned as a parkin kinda gal ?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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you off the fig rolls now then ?

Oh gawd no, I saved you one for when you came back, but you turned up too late and I have eaten it now...sorry about that

what cakes ya got then ?

being the traditionalist you are, i have you pinned as a parkin kinda gal ?

I had to go look that up then and yuk @ oatmeal.

Fruit cake all the way for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if the messages and pics work then you meet.

No means no.

No question, no argument, no debate."

Eh?? I'm lost now. Where does it say that on this thread?

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

you off the fig rolls now then ?

Oh gawd no, I saved you one for when you came back, but you turned up too late and I have eaten it now...sorry about that

what cakes ya got then ?

being the traditionalist you are, i have you pinned as a parkin kinda gal ?

Oh bussy you silly boy!

She's in Derbyshire not Yorkshire!

They don't know the sticky cakey unctuousness that is a good parkin!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You mean there are words attached to the pictures I get sent occasionally?

Ye, but the words i usually get are fuck and off!

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

No means no.

No question, no argument, no debate.

Eh?? I'm lost now. Where does it say that on this thread? "

The op suggests that after messages and pics have been exchanged that people should have the chance to make their case in person.

I'm saying that the messages and pics are part of the process and that any party at any point in the process has the right to say no and stop the process without prejudice.

That the saying no and there being no hard feelings is a basic tenet of swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I assume people mean what they say, normally."

I always mean what I say.

Now who keeps mentioning cake

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No means no.

No question, no argument, no debate.

Eh?? I'm lost now. Where does it say that on this thread?

The op suggests that after messages and pics have been exchanged that people should have the chance to make their case in person.

I'm saying that the messages and pics are part of the process and that any party at any point in the process has the right to say no and stop the process without prejudice.

That the saying no and there being no hard feelings is a basic tenet of swinging."

True, i see your point, but it could also mean that after msging and a meet is arranged, you see that person in a totally different light to one they painted of themselves in their msgs.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

That the saying no and there being no hard feelings is a basic tenet of swinging.

True, i see your point, but it could also mean that after msging and a meet is arranged, you see that person in a totally different light to one they painted of themselves in their msgs."

Which is why my first meets are over coffee and I turn down around 50%.

Many who are just as they represented themselves but I just don't lust after them - my final prerequisite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you off the fig rolls now then ?

Oh gawd no, I saved you one for when you came back, but you turned up too late and I have eaten it now...sorry about that

what cakes ya got then ?

being the traditionalist you are, i have you pinned as a parkin kinda gal ?

Oh bussy you silly boy!

She's in Derbyshire not Yorkshire!

They don't know the sticky cakey unctuousness that is a good parkin!

exactly !

gone right down in my estimations

i say we promote hpc to high governess on the basis of that revelation

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Oh bussy you silly boy!

She's in Derbyshire not Yorkshire!

They don't know the sticky cakey unctuousness that is a good parkin!

exactly !

gone right down in my estimations

i say we promote hpc to high governess on the basis of that revelation

Does that make me teechers pet?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

In my defence I don't come from Yorkshire to know about a parkin cake

But I do like a bakewell tart

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"In my defence I don't come from Yorkshire to know about a parkin cake

But I do like a bakewell tart

Plus in my defence again I am not from Derbyshire and should have called it a Bakewell pudding

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can't judge a person or decide if you like them or not just through messages and pictures. You have to meet in person, shake hands, have a chat, get to know someone a bit. "

yes,you can

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

"In my defence I don't come from Yorkshire to know about a parkin cake

But I do like a bakewell tart

Tis just parkin. And you might not like oats but don't dismiss it

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over a year ago

Oh bussy you silly boy!

She's in Derbyshire not Yorkshire!

They don't know the sticky cakey unctuousness that is a good parkin!

exactly !

gone right down in my estimations

i say we promote hpc to high governess on the basis of that revelation

Does that make me teechers pet?

I would say you were much better suited to the role of Head Prefect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In my defence I don't come from Yorkshire to know about a parkin cake

But I do like a bakewell tart

Plus in my defence again I am not from Derbyshire and should have called it a Bakewell pudding

Ah !

But Bakewell has both a tart and a pudding named after it !

Mr Kipling et al have made the tart the more famous of the two, but the pudding is not to be overlooked

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

gone right down in my estimations

i say we promote hpc to high governess on the basis of that revelation

Does that make me teechers pet?

I would say you were much better suited to the role of Head Prefect

On account of my perfect head?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I went to boarding school and I used to give the prefect head

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