FabSwingers.com forum: Sexual Offences Act

By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

Is about to be updated to make sending unsolicited dick pics a criminal offence that could land an offender with a two-year jail sentence and a place on the sex offenders register.

As virtually all of the unsolicited Friend requests and messages we get from single guys on here include dick pics, can we anticipate a change in the T&C's of Fabswingers?

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

Not guilty m’lord

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Possibly.

By clicking I agree to sign up, I accept that I may receive images of this nature yadda yadda yadda

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

If the law changes then you would expect the site to follow but I doubt it will x

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

I’d image they would do so given this upcoming change to it.

But an easier method would be to just not send them in the first place.

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By *ingle To MingleMan
over a year ago

Swalwell

It's patriarchal in nature and sexist to all sexes.

When was the last time gay men or lesbian women were protected from unsolicited tit picks or fanny pics?

I've had my fair share and I can tell you, waking up to an unsolicited pic of a woman's bits and her dirty arse hole stretched open isn't my idea of arousing, far from it.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

It’s a good step, but I dunno how it’ll be enforced. But it’s still a good step and I’m sure there’s lots of people out there stupid enough to send those kinda pics with the evidence needed for a conviction

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Possibly.

By clicking I agree to sign up, I accept that I may receive images of this nature yadda yadda yadda"

That, plus I imagine it wouldn't be a complaint made very often. Who the hell is going to sign up to a site like this and then run to the police for something like that?

It will be interesting to iron it out, though

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By *ingle To MingleMan
over a year ago

Swalwell

I block if I don't get s dick pic

Where's my right to choose ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not really as simple as "send dick pic, get nicked". The picture must be intended to cause alarm/distress.

So: air-dropping a dick pic to a woman on the train, but not sending a dick pic on Fabs (broadly).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The internet allows anonymous harassment

This won't stop it happening, but it may land some careless weirdos in hot water

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The internet allows anonymous harassment

This won't stop it happening, but it may land some careless weirdos in hot water"

The fact that murder is illegal doesn't stop murder, either.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"It's not really as simple as "send dick pic, get nicked". The picture must be intended to cause alarm/distress.

So: air-dropping a dick pic to a woman on the train, but not sending a dick pic on Fabs (broadly)."

This ^

From what I’ve read it is aimed at individuals who use apps to Bluetooth photos to unsuspecting individuals nearby.

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By *iss SJWoman
over a year ago

Hull

I can understand it more on here, it’s on dating sites that I find it annoying and out of order. I can’t imagine anyone from here reporting it though. I know I wouldn’t even though I don’t appreciate them.

Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"I can understand it more on here, it’s on dating sites that I find it annoying and out of order. I can’t imagine anyone from here reporting it though. I know I wouldn’t even though I don’t appreciate them.

Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general? "

Cyber flashing I think it's generally referred to, and all genders can and are guilty of it.

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general? "

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

“Under section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (“SOA 2003”) there is an offence criminalising exposure of one’s genitals. In Chapter 6, we explain that this can cover some digital forms of exposure. However, it is not clear that it covers, for example, “dick pics” sent via AirDrop.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general? "

Most press have took the dick pic angle but will apply to all genders.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

***or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”***"

*** Unsolicited pics should be banned in messages on here too.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”"

So the last paragraph got me wondering. Women who flash lorry drivers for example, is that a sexual offence or indecent exposure?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A quick nick for a sick dick pic.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

***or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”***

*** Unsolicited pics should be banned in messages on here too.

I wonder if a feature could be that you can only send pictures to your friends. I reckon that reduce the number by a fair bit.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Can you really claim it to be unsolicited when you knowingly sign up to a sex on which you can post pics of genitals? I would argue that fly by dick pics are implied by signing up almost.

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By *iss SJWoman
over a year ago

Hull

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”

So the last paragraph got me wondering. Women who flash lorry drivers for example, is that a sexual offence or indecent exposure?

I would call that indecent exposure and bloody dangerous too!

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By *iss SJWoman
over a year ago

Hull

"Can you really claim it to be unsolicited when you knowingly sign up to a sex on which you can post pics of genitals? I would argue that fly by dick pics are implied by signing up almost. "

And most people have their bits and bobs out in their avatar pics which you don’t even have to open the message to see

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”

So the last paragraph got me wondering. Women who flash lorry drivers for example, is that a sexual offence or indecent exposure?

I would call that indecent exposure and bloody dangerous too! "

I agree it's dangerous, just wasn't sure where the line is, if that makes sense?

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"Can you really claim it to be unsolicited when you knowingly sign up to a sex on which you can post pics of genitals? I would argue that fly by dick pics are implied by signing up almost.

And most people have their bits and bobs out in their avatar pics which you don’t even have to open the message to see"

Yep can see my boobies on my avatar. And I don't mind cocks avatars, normally it's a small pic and unassuming. But I think perhaps it's the accumulated effect of a cock picture along with what they want to do, that can make it a bit more intimating?

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”

So the last paragraph got me wondering. Women who flash lorry drivers for example, is that a sexual offence or indecent exposure?

I would call that indecent exposure and bloody dangerous too!

I agree it's dangerous, just wasn't sure where the line is, if that makes sense? "

In Scotland, we have a number of approaches - may be the same in England, I don’t know. We have an offence of Sexual Exposure (s8 of our Sexual Offences Act) but that relates only to “genitals”. We have a common law charge of public indecency which could cover your suggestion Frida but isn’t perhaps all that common.

Mr TMN

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

***or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”***

*** Unsolicited pics should be banned in messages on here too.

I wonder if a feature could be that you can only send pictures to your friends. I reckon that reduce the number by a fair bit. "

I like that idea.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”

So the last paragraph got me wondering. Women who flash lorry drivers for example, is that a sexual offence or indecent exposure?

I'd say it's reckless behaviour and indecent exposure.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”

So the last paragraph got me wondering. Women who flash lorry drivers for example, is that a sexual offence or indecent exposure?

I would call that indecent exposure and bloody dangerous too!

I agree it's dangerous, just wasn't sure where the line is, if that makes sense?

Mr TMN"

So if I were to purposely flash my boobs that could be public indecency, if I flashed my genitals that is a sexual offence?

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

I feel they’re on to me already..

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By *ingle To MingleMan
over a year ago

Swalwell

A rolling stone gathers no moss

Be careful what you wish for as legislation is often hijacked

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly

"Is it just dick pics or does it include unsolicited vag and or tits or nudes in general?

Based on the recommendations it is any genitals, not just male genitals.

Therefore, in Chapter 6, we recommend that the SOA 2003 should be amended to include a specific offence targeting the sending of images or video recordings of genitals.

Our recommended offence requires the defendant either intend the victim be

caused alarm, distress or humiliation,

or, if the defendant is acting for a sexual purpose, is reckless as to whether the victim is caused alarm, distress or humiliation.”

So the last paragraph got me wondering. Women who flash lorry drivers for example, is that a sexual offence or indecent exposure?

I would call that indecent exposure and bloody dangerous too!

I agree it's dangerous, just wasn't sure where the line is, if that makes sense?

Mr TMN

So if I were to purposely flash my boobs that could be public indecency, if I flashed my genitals that is a sexual offence?

It’s possibly more nuanced than that but, basically, yes. Neither results in automatic placement on the “register”, various factors are relevant to determine that.

Mr TMN

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can you really claim it to be unsolicited when you knowingly sign up to a sex on which you can post pics of genitals? I would argue that fly by dick pics are implied by signing up almost.

And most people have their bits and bobs out in their avatar pics which you don’t even have to open the message to see

I find a closeup pic of a cock in an avatar intimidating and I can't even say why - it just makes me so uncomfortable.

Fab wouldn't do anything that would require paying more people to update/maintain the site. So they will take the quickest route to (appear to) be legal.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

No more sending pics of my boobs to unsuspecting men then.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Can we ask FAF still ? Or do we have to ask first ?

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By *iss SJWoman
over a year ago

Hull

"Can we ask FAF still ? Or do we have to ask first ?"

Omg is that why we all get so many ‘can I ask you a question?’ messages? That’s the question they refer to?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can we ask FAF still ? Or do we have to ask first ?

Omg is that why we all get so many ‘can I ask you a question?’ messages? That’s the question they refer to?!

Lots of theories on that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No more sending pics of my boobs to unsuspecting men then."

I’ve never had this happen. I’ve got serious FOMO now

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By *izzy.miss.lizzyCouple
over a year ago

Pembrokeshire

I can honestly say I have never sent anyone a dick pic.

Although I understand the concerns raised about the changes in law.

Hope the forum doesn't get too censured, it will spoil all the fun.

Lizzie.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not me Madame/Sir - I'm a good boy really only send if requested

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