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"I've never understood why we can't share the roads, we don't own them." Sadly, there's a strange amount of hatred for cyclists from some drivers. The posts on here have been surprising cyclist friendly. My husband cycles a lot and says he rides with the assumption that other road users are trying to kill him  | |||
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"Mad cyclists? Similar to mad scientists but they only do experiments on bikes." There’s a yo mama joke in there somewhere  | |||
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"Some cyclist came over to me at a stop and accused me of being a cunt. So I got out and decked him. What makes him think he didn’t have to indicate? " So you are openly admitting to assault but it's fine in your book because it's only a cyclist?? Strange why no one has said anything yet only two weeks ago the forum was in uproar claiming assault when Will Smith slapped someone. | |||
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"Some cyclist came over to me at a stop and accused me of being a cunt. So I got out and decked him. What makes him think he didn’t have to indicate? " If you actually did this, my opinion of you has just hit rock bottom 
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"Some cyclist came over to me at a stop and accused me of being a cunt. So I got out and decked him. What makes him think he didn’t have to indicate? " Accused?  | |||
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"Some cyclist came over to me at a stop and accused me of being a cunt. So I got out and decked him. What makes him think he didn’t have to indicate? If you actually did this, my opinion of you has just hit rock bottom
There's no excuse for assault... awful thing to do."You never had an opinion of me. Too many males think they can abuse and raise a hand to a person. Just so happened I was driving and he was wobbling on a bike. | |||
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"Some cyclist came over to me at a stop and accused me of being a cunt. So I got out and decked him. What makes him think he didn’t have to indicate? If you actually did this, my opinion of you has just hit rock bottom
There's no excuse for assault... awful thing to do."I didn’t really but just wish I had. Wanted to see how I was judged as a driver and not as a man getting abuse from a stranger. Never did what he said I had. | |||
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"What i like best is when local councils remove a lane off a main road for cyclists to use when in 30 years you less than 50 ride up or down even less now there's a lane for it thats so amazing councils are wonderful at planning things like that "No different from bus lanes,why aren't you having a pop at them? Council's spend hundreds of millions on bus lanes up and down the country. Apart from major cities for the most part they seem to be a lane to allow a huge gas guzzling machine to drive on with only one or two passengers. Probably be cheaper for the government to get taxis for the people on the bus than spend ridiculous amounts on bus lanes. Yet apparently cyclists are the enemy. | |||
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"There are some cyclists with cameras on their helmets out to provoke and cause mayhem then try and play the victim on camera... In my opinion it's been caused by the Covid theatre closures. Too many out of work desperate actors on the streets.. " This really tickled me | |||
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"There are some cyclists with cameras on their helmets out to provoke and cause mayhem then try and play the victim on camera... In my opinion it's been caused by the Covid theatre closures. Too many out of work desperate actors on the streets.. " Don’t they wear cameras so if they ever capture footage of a good driver they can get it on the news for everyone to see? Sadly usable footage is yet to emerge.  | |||
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"There are some cyclists with cameras on their helmets out to provoke and cause mayhem then try and play the victim on camera... In my opinion it's been caused by the Covid theatre closures. Too many out of work desperate actors on the streets.. " I have a camera on my helmet. Half the time it's not switched on but, often makes drivers think twice before doing something stupid. | |||
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"What i like best is when local councils remove a lane off a main road for cyclists to use when in 30 years you less than 50 ride up or down even less now there's a lane for it thats so amazing councils are wonderful at planning things like that
No different from bus lanes,why aren't you having a pop at them?
Council's spend hundreds of millions on bus lanes up and down the country.
Apart from major cities for the most part they seem to be a lane to allow a huge gas guzzling machine to drive on with only one or two passengers.
Probably be cheaper for the government to get taxis for the people on the bus than spend ridiculous amounts on bus lanes.
Yet apparently cyclists are the enemy."busses use them multiple times per day i rarely see cyclists use theres | |||
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"I’ve found the majority of cyclists in my area are considerate, as am I when driving. My local cycling club are another matter, they do their best to antagonise! On twisty country lanes they stay single file, when a straight section opens up where you can get past safely they speed up and go 2-3 abreast. " Buggers ! | |||
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"The pedestrian rule is just stupidity. The cyclist rule is just as stupid as most cyclist don't have lights on there bikes, nor do they wear either high viz jacket, vest or anything that shows up in the dark.your getting kids riding along the middle of the road doing wheelies, riding up a 1 way street the wrong way and even riding in the middle of the road either doing a selfie, giving drivers the finger etc. I'd like not only know what moron thought this up but also the dickheads that passed it. There's ways of keeping cyclist and pedestrian safe but this is just stupidity at its worst. Cyclist should have to take some kind of test and get licenced just like a motorist otherwise things will get out of hand and end up with someone being killed. " Yes and motorists never do a thing wrong on the roads? Never see them going through red lights! Cutting cyclists up! On their mobile phones! Pfft! | |||
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"In Swindon I have witnessed 4 accidents caused by cyclists that just ride off after . Equally I have seen car drivers just push cyclists out the way into pathway . Arrogant entitled pricks in both camps , my mirror has been kicked off twice by dickhead cyclists because they didn’t want to wait to pass like normal persons would . I would like to see some of insurance on cyclists though for road use. Here in Swindon the problem with cyclists is mostly cycling into or around pedestrians on pavement and getting pushy " The magic roundabout is a nightmare for cars & cyclists | |||
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"I visit Cambridge as a pedestrian and it's like being in Amsterdam but with more drugs and prostitutes. There are student types everywhere on pushbikes like silent assasins on roads, pavements and they overtake and undertake without as much as a bell ring ...." | |||
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"In Swindon I have witnessed 4 accidents caused by cyclists that just ride off after . Equally I have seen car drivers just push cyclists out the way into pathway . Arrogant entitled pricks in both camps , my mirror has been kicked off twice by dickhead cyclists because they didn’t want to wait to pass like normal persons would . I would like to see some of insurance on cyclists though for road use. Here in Swindon the problem with cyclists is mostly cycling into or around pedestrians on pavement and getting pushy The magic roundabout is a nightmare for cars & cyclists "Yes and the one down by the car dealerships that has part time lights | |||
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"In Swindon I have witnessed 4 accidents caused by cyclists that just ride off after . Equally I have seen car drivers just push cyclists out the way into pathway . Arrogant entitled pricks in both camps , my mirror has been kicked off twice by dickhead cyclists because they didn’t want to wait to pass like normal persons would . I would like to see some of insurance on cyclists though for road use. Here in Swindon the problem with cyclists is mostly cycling into or around pedestrians on pavement and getting pushy The magic roundabout is a nightmare for cars & cyclists
Yes and the one down by the car dealerships that has part time lights
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"If there is courtesy and common sense on both sides where’s the problem? If it’s dangerous to overtake safely then it doesn’t matter if that is a cyclist, horse , milk float, tractor it’s still dangerous- but also cyclists should be aware that other traffic may wish to pass and allow them to do so safely. I saw one post a while back from a cyclist complaining that he missed a personal best on Strada because of traffic…. Is the road the best place to be focussing on that? If he’s concentrating on setting a new best time he won’t be focussing on riding courteously! " Why? It’s only about managing your speed, which is the same in all circumstances. It’s like saying you can’t drive over 30mph and concentrate on the road.  | |||
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"If there is courtesy and common sense on both sides where’s the problem? If it’s dangerous to overtake safely then it doesn’t matter if that is a cyclist, horse , milk float, tractor it’s still dangerous- but also cyclists should be aware that other traffic may wish to pass and allow them to do so safely. I saw one post a while back from a cyclist complaining that he missed a personal best on Strada because of traffic…. Is the road the best place to be focussing on that? If he’s concentrating on setting a new best time he won’t be focussing on riding courteously! Why? It’s only about managing your speed, which is the same in all circumstances. It’s like saying you can’t drive over 30mph and concentrate on the road. "Because the pre eminent thing on his mind was the time target - not the traffic or any effect his behaviour might have. | |||
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"If there is courtesy and common sense on both sides where’s the problem? If it’s dangerous to overtake safely then it doesn’t matter if that is a cyclist, horse , milk float, tractor it’s still dangerous- but also cyclists should be aware that other traffic may wish to pass and allow them to do so safely. I saw one post a while back from a cyclist complaining that he missed a personal best on Strada because of traffic…. Is the road the best place to be focussing on that? If he’s concentrating on setting a new best time he won’t be focussing on riding courteously! Why? It’s only about managing your speed, which is the same in all circumstances. It’s like saying you can’t drive over 30mph and concentrate on the road.
Because the pre eminent thing on his mind was the time target - not the traffic or any effect his behaviour might have. "No, the eminent thing on his mind will be staying safe and alive on the road. Don’t forget he was telling you this afterwards, not during. It’s perfectly possible to ride safely and beat your best times in Strava, in exactly the same way it’s possible to adjust the speed of your car and still be aware of and react to road conditions. | |||
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"If there is courtesy and common sense on both sides where’s the problem? If it’s dangerous to overtake safely then it doesn’t matter if that is a cyclist, horse , milk float, tractor it’s still dangerous- but also cyclists should be aware that other traffic may wish to pass and allow them to do so safely. I saw one post a while back from a cyclist complaining that he missed a personal best on Strada because of traffic…. Is the road the best place to be focussing on that? If he’s concentrating on setting a new best time he won’t be focussing on riding courteously! Why? It’s only about managing your speed, which is the same in all circumstances. It’s like saying you can’t drive over 30mph and concentrate on the road.
Because the pre eminent thing on his mind was the time target - not the traffic or any effect his behaviour might have.
No, the eminent thing on his mind will be staying safe and alive on the road. Don’t forget he was telling you this afterwards, not during. It’s perfectly possible to ride safely and beat your best times in Strava, in exactly the same way it’s possible to adjust the speed of your car and still be aware of and react to road conditions."Whilst i respect your point of view I don’t accept it. I think his preoccupation with a time target would potentially have affected his judgement if he had a 50/50 decision to make. | |||
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"The pedestrian rule is just stupidity. The cyclist rule is just as stupid as most cyclist don't have lights on there bikes, nor do they wear either high viz jacket, vest or anything that shows up in the dark.your getting kids riding along the middle of the road doing wheelies, riding up a 1 way street the wrong way and even riding in the middle of the road either doing a selfie, giving drivers the finger etc. I'd like not only know what moron thought this up but also the dickheads that passed it. There's ways of keeping cyclist and pedestrian safe but this is just stupidity at its worst. Cyclist should have to take some kind of test and get licenced just like a motorist otherwise things will get out of hand and end up with someone being killed. Yes and motorists never do a thing wrong on the roads? Never see them going through red lights! Cutting cyclists up! On their mobile phones! Pfft!" There's a difference. When a driver acts like that you have a reg plate to use to make a complaint and the driver can be identified. Where as cyclcists are anonymous and can and do whatever they want because they know its next to impossible to identify them. | |||
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"If there is courtesy and common sense on both sides where’s the problem? If it’s dangerous to overtake safely then it doesn’t matter if that is a cyclist, horse , milk float, tractor it’s still dangerous- but also cyclists should be aware that other traffic may wish to pass and allow them to do so safely. I saw one post a while back from a cyclist complaining that he missed a personal best on Strada because of traffic…. Is the road the best place to be focussing on that? If he’s concentrating on setting a new best time he won’t be focussing on riding courteously! Why? It’s only about managing your speed, which is the same in all circumstances. It’s like saying you can’t drive over 30mph and concentrate on the road.
Because the pre eminent thing on his mind was the time target - not the traffic or any effect his behaviour might have.
No, the eminent thing on his mind will be staying safe and alive on the road. Don’t forget he was telling you this afterwards, not during. It’s perfectly possible to ride safely and beat your best times in Strava, in exactly the same way it’s possible to adjust the speed of your car and still be aware of and react to road conditions.
Whilst i respect your point of view I don’t accept it. I think his preoccupation with a time target would potentially have affected his judgement if he had a 50/50 decision to make. "How many Strava personal bests have you acquired to inform your view? | |||
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"The pedestrian rule is just stupidity. The cyclist rule is just as stupid as most cyclist don't have lights on there bikes, nor do they wear either high viz jacket, vest or anything that shows up in the dark.your getting kids riding along the middle of the road doing wheelies, riding up a 1 way street the wrong way and even riding in the middle of the road either doing a selfie, giving drivers the finger etc. I'd like not only know what moron thought this up but also the dickheads that passed it. There's ways of keeping cyclist and pedestrian safe but this is just stupidity at its worst. Cyclist should have to take some kind of test and get licenced just like a motorist otherwise things will get out of hand and end up with someone being killed. Yes and motorists never do a thing wrong on the roads? Never see them going through red lights! Cutting cyclists up! On their mobile phones! Pfft! There's a difference. When a driver acts like that you have a reg plate to use to make a complaint and the driver can be identified. Where as cyclcists are anonymous and can and do whatever they want because they know its next to impossible to identify them." Yeah right!like I'm gonna whip my phone out to take pic of their reg plate! One such red light skipper went so fast people around one with buggy some walking me on cycle waiting at lights to cross not one of us got his reg! | |||
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"This may not apply to all cyclists, but large majority of cyclists I have come across. How are cyclists expected to be treated the same as other road users when the go through red lights, zebra crossings when people are crossing n on n off pavements wherever it suits them n when doing this not slowing down or checking for other road users or pedestrians. Plus the electric scooters are even worst. I have been driving since the mid 1980's, car and motorbike n these days I do try n drive less n less due to the stupidity of cyclists n scooter riders. I find most of the normal people on bikes are OK, it's mostly the one's dressed in their high viz colours who have the attitude n think they own the road, maybe If they paid towards the roads as in tax n insurance and maybe if they would check if the road is clear first instead of just expecting all motorists to stop, slow down or swerve out of the way for them then maybe they may get a bit more respect. Also I have seen cyclists go through red lights in front of police cars n nothing gets done, so they just think they can do as they like. " All cyclists pay for the roads, just the same as all other tax payers. Funny how ‘motorists’ always seem to know what cyclists should be doing but are never aware of this simple fact. Must be the same lack of awareness that makes them oblivious to the fact they are all such terrible drivers!  | |||
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" All cyclists pay for the roads, just the same as all other tax payers. Funny how ‘motorists’ always seem to know what cyclists should be doing but are never aware of this simple fact. Must be the same lack of awareness that makes them oblivious to the fact they are all such terrible drivers! "Google "why you coming fast?" to see the perfect example of how terrible cyclists can be. This particular person thinking it amusing to post his helmet video footage but having it backfire on him due to the fact he was actually riding on the footpath..... | |||
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" All cyclists pay for the roads, just the same as all other tax payers. Funny how ‘motorists’ always seem to know what cyclists should be doing but are never aware of this simple fact. Must be the same lack of awareness that makes them oblivious to the fact they are all such terrible drivers!
Google "why you coming fast?" to see the perfect example of how terrible cyclists can be. This particular person thinking it amusing to post his helmet video footage but having it backfire on him due to the fact he was actually riding on the footpath..... "No time, too busy watching dashcam footage of every driver on UK roads proving they shouldn’t be behind a wheel.  | |||
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" All cyclists pay for the roads, just the same as all other tax payers. Funny how ‘motorists’ always seem to know what cyclists should be doing but are never aware of this simple fact. Must be the same lack of awareness that makes them oblivious to the fact they are all such terrible drivers!
Google "why you coming fast?" to see the perfect example of how terrible cyclists can be. This particular person thinking it amusing to post his helmet video footage but having it backfire on him due to the fact he was actually riding on the footpath.....
No time, too busy watching dashcam footage of every driver on UK roads proving they shouldn’t be behind a wheel. "Find your statement of "every other driver" a little, in fact very judgemental and narrow minded. I drive an HGV for a living and also cycle. Now let's compare this..... Mr A decides he wants to drive a lorry, Mr B decides he wants to ride a bike. Mr A applies for a licence, Mr B remembered he cycled round a few dinner ladies handbags and cones in a primary school playground when he was 7. Mr A pays for and books lessons. Mr B buys a bike. Mr A has a minimum of 20 hrs training. A minimum Mr B goes straight onto the road. Mr A has to pass a test to prove he is competent Mr B carries on. Mr A has to pay for and carry out 1 full days refresher training every year. Mr B carries on..... Do you see where this is leading? Before you jump on your high horse I am in no way saying that every driver is perfect. There are bad drivers, as there are bad cyclists, bad pedestrians who like to walk I to roads because their Instagram takes priority over their personal safety. What is needed is education across the board. It is not acceptable to drive through a red light, as it's not acceptable to cycle through one either. However careful I drive my truck if a cyclists comes through an opposite red light in front of me there's only 1 physical casualty I'm afraid. Met Police tried a scheme a few years ago at an accident hotspot by putting cyclists into trucks to see the pitfalls of doing this job. The job that everyone sort of relies upon for groceries, parcels etc etc. Education Common Sense Road Sense That's what's needed | |||
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" All cyclists pay for the roads, just the same as all other tax payers. Funny how ‘motorists’ always seem to know what cyclists should be doing but are never aware of this simple fact. Must be the same lack of awareness that makes them oblivious to the fact they are all such terrible drivers!
Google "why you coming fast?" to see the perfect example of how terrible cyclists can be. This particular person thinking it amusing to post his helmet video footage but having it backfire on him due to the fact he was actually riding on the footpath.....
No time, too busy watching dashcam footage of every driver on UK roads proving they shouldn’t be behind a wheel. "Is that on 'Scourge of our streets'? Oh no, wait....... | |||
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" All cyclists pay for the roads, just the same as all other tax payers. Funny how ‘motorists’ always seem to know what cyclists should be doing but are never aware of this simple fact. Must be the same lack of awareness that makes them oblivious to the fact they are all such terrible drivers!
Google "why you coming fast?" to see the perfect example of how terrible cyclists can be. This particular person thinking it amusing to post his helmet video footage but having it backfire on him due to the fact he was actually riding on the footpath.....
No time, too busy watching dashcam footage of every driver on UK roads proving they shouldn’t be behind a wheel.
Find your statement of "every other driver" a little, in fact very judgemental and narrow minded.
I drive an HGV for a living and also cycle.
Now let's compare this.....
Mr A decides he wants to drive a lorry, Mr B decides he wants to ride a bike.
Mr A applies for a licence,
Mr B remembered he cycled round a few dinner ladies handbags and cones in a primary school playground when he was 7.
Mr A pays for and books lessons.
Mr B buys a bike.
Mr A has a minimum of 20 hrs training. A minimum
Mr B goes straight onto the road.
Mr A has to pass a test to prove he is competent
Mr B carries on.
Mr A has to pay for and carry out 1 full days refresher training every year.
Mr B carries on.....
Do you see where this is leading?
Before you jump on your high horse I am in no way saying that every driver is perfect.
There are bad drivers, as there are bad cyclists, bad pedestrians who like to walk I to roads because their Instagram takes priority over their personal safety.
What is needed is education across the board.
It is not acceptable to drive through a red light, as it's not acceptable to cycle through one either.
However careful I drive my truck if a cyclists comes through an opposite red light in front of me there's only 1 physical casualty I'm afraid.
Met Police tried a scheme a few years ago at an accident hotspot by putting cyclists into trucks to see the pitfalls of doing this job. The job that everyone sort of relies upon for groceries, parcels etc etc.
Education
Common Sense
Road Sense
That's what's needed"What was written was ‘every driver’, not ‘every other driver’. How judgemental and narrow minded is that?! Almost as judgemental and narrow minded as assuming every cyclist jumps lights, etc etc. You also seem to assume cyclists go straight onto the road without being able to drive a car, or lorry, or coach already, which of course many can already drive…which is probably why the best drivers are also cyclists, because they have better all round road sense. How much cycling have you done lately? | |||
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"If there is courtesy and common sense on both sides where’s the problem? If it’s dangerous to overtake safely then it doesn’t matter if that is a cyclist, horse , milk float, tractor it’s still dangerous- but also cyclists should be aware that other traffic may wish to pass and allow them to do so safely. I saw one post a while back from a cyclist complaining that he missed a personal best on Strada because of traffic…. Is the road the best place to be focussing on that? If he’s concentrating on setting a new best time he won’t be focussing on riding courteously! Why? It’s only about managing your speed, which is the same in all circumstances. It’s like saying you can’t drive over 30mph and concentrate on the road.
Because the pre eminent thing on his mind was the time target - not the traffic or any effect his behaviour might have.
No, the eminent thing on his mind will be staying safe and alive on the road. Don’t forget he was telling you this afterwards, not during. It’s perfectly possible to ride safely and beat your best times in Strava, in exactly the same way it’s possible to adjust the speed of your car and still be aware of and react to road conditions.
Whilst i respect your point of view I don’t accept it. I think his preoccupation with a time target would potentially have affected his judgement if he had a 50/50 decision to make. "Before I had to stop due to health issues (hopefully temporary) I cycled to and from work every day and used Strava, you review your ride afterwards not during and the way you improve is by making your speed more consistent most the time so it actually improves your riding style making you less likely to make sudden changes on road letting drivers anticipate your moves. Surely this helps both the cyclist and driver. | |||
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"This may not apply to all cyclists, but large majority of cyclists I have come across. How are cyclists expected to be treated the same as other road users when the go through red lights, zebra crossings when people are crossing n on n off pavements wherever it suits them n when doing this not slowing down or checking for other road users or pedestrians. Plus the electric scooters are even worst. I have been driving since the mid 1980's, car and motorbike n these days I do try n drive less n less due to the stupidity of cyclists n scooter riders. I find most of the normal people on bikes are OK, it's mostly the one's dressed in their high viz colours who have the attitude n think they own the road, maybe If they paid towards the roads as in tax n insurance and maybe if they would check if the road is clear first instead of just expecting all motorists to stop, slow down or swerve out of the way for them then maybe they may get a bit more respect. Also I have seen cyclists go through red lights in front of police cars n nothing gets done, so they just think they can do as they like. " I've seen car drivers go through red lights in front of police and nothing happen. And anyone that walks on their legs can tell you a time a driver hasn't stopped at a zebra crossing. It's crazy that you still think there's a thing called road tax, and you think car insurance is used for potholes? As in all walks people do things wrong, but the fact remains that the risk of death or serious injury is far less if it's a pedestrian or cyclist doing it. There's a reason you need a licence to drive and not ride for the same reason that you need a licence to have a gun and not a pencil | |||
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